>gif related is literally the same for holocaust deniers
>college humor
>>79719496
>implying you're not reddit for knowing it
>>79719633
Find me any forensic proof of the Holocaust.
pro-tip: you fucking can't
the 6 million number is a phony number
>>79719735
Birth record analysis easily gets you there.
Here comes the assmad damage control.
>>79719928
there is no way you can proof the death of 6 million people
would mean individual documents for everyone who died
>>79719410
I hope no one on /pol/ actually believes that.
You newfags know that /pol/ is just satire, right?
When I began researching this topic years ago (from both sides), I was shocked at how poorly the evidence presented by Holocaust believers matched up against the evidence presented by revisionists. Evidence for the official story is almost entirely circumstantial, whereas evidence for the revisionists is almost entirely technical, forensic and scientific.
>>79720351
>he fell for the edgy holocaust denial meme
are you memeing me or are you serious?
>>79719410
Oh well when you put it like that I guess it case settled. vaccines cause autism
>>79720463
Pretty sure you are the one memeing. Remember back when i were 15 and a had a test on ww2 and i wrote that theres no proof on the gas chambers. Got an A. Based teacher
>>79720463
>ARE YOU SERIOUS??????
nice rebuttal, faggot
Not a single gassed body has ever been found.
Not a single photo has ever been found of an actual gas chamber
>>79720658
That surprises me because most teachers are lefties, including history teachers... How can that even happen in a country such as yours? Not that we are much better though.
>>79720227
1. Locate birth records
2. Locate death records
3. Calculate the difference between the two
Your post has basically confirmed OP's assertion that you are a vaccine denier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGwn5R1PC9Q
>>79720745
That proves people died, not that they were genocided.
I think you mean holocaust believers
>>79720822
Your argument is separate from wafflefag's. He denies that 6 million people could have died, I have just shown that he is incorrect.
You deny that 6 million died on purpose, and chances are that you are probably correct. The Nazis wanted them all dead to be sure. Writings of all major party leaders confirm that (particularly Goebbels). I think they would have been happy with any number. It seems they made it to 6 million before being overcome by events.
>>79720658
>>79720662
wow, just wow. My own mother was in the concentration camps and barely got out alive.
Newfags need to realize that /pol/ is just satire and memes, we are not actually serious here
>>79720658
BASED
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>>79720994
>wow, just wow
kek, you're starting to sound like a liberal
get the fuck out
>>79721089
holocaust denial is NOT ok! We must honor the memories of the 6 million people who died or else we risk repeating the same mistakes we did.
>>79720935
The problem is that the post-war population numbers are impossible to verify, especially given the massive displacement among millions of Europeans (not just Jews) following the war, and the fact that the vast majority of Jews ended up in Soviet occupied territory at war's end. All you can say for sure is that there was a large Jewish exodus from Europe. There is absolutely no way of saying for sure that six million people were systematically murdered in gas chambers, especially given the glaring lack of physical evidence supporting such a claim. Indeed, literally the entire Holocaust narrative is based on circumstantial evidence: confessions derived through torture at Nuremberg, eyewitness testimony which is often inconsistent and contradictory, and unverifiable population numbers. For a crime of such magnitude, it is impossible to believe that there would be not just little, but zero direct physical evidence supporting it.
>>79720745
could you atleast post the real source instead of a picture from wikipedia, because i doubt the real source has the medical inspection of the corpses of 6 million people, the absence of 6 million people is not the proof of their death
>>79720935
>(particularly Goebbels)
i think you mean himmler, also dont confuse german word "ausrottung" with extermination, it does not mean that
>>79721193
>Monaco
Aren't you supposed to be rich as fuck? Go outside and enjoy your life, brother.
Vaccines are good, it's the fact that they get mixed improperly or have additives thrown in that we don't look into prior to giving the shot as to whether or not the patient is allergic. It's ultimately the parents fault for letting their kid be lined up like cattle before consulting a geneticist or knowing their own family history. Plus if you were to know in advance they'd have a reaction, would you rather them be autistic or have polio?
All it takes is one positive result to confirm a theory (as long as all confounding variables are accounted for)
>>79721193
>Implying some races don't need a good holocausting
The only mistake we should make sure we don't repeat is leaving survivors.
>>79721279
>the absence of 6 million people is not the proof of their death
Is there an island of Jews somewhere that we've all missed?
You're delusional if you think "we just couldn't find them". Read Dawidowicz's book to find out where she got the numbers.
>>79720994
How did she get out alive? Why didn't they just gas her if that was their plan?
>>79721958
>Read Dawidowicz's book
no, this is not how it werks, you give me the link to the book and the pages and lines where it proofs that 6 million people died
u cant into logic my bruger friend, absence of something is never proof of it deaths
give me something that proofs that 6 million jewish people were in the sphere of german territory and politics during the years 1940 to 45 and that 6 million jewish people (the same that where in the sphere of german state) died due to the creation of a pathological condition by the german government
>>79721958
Madagascar
>>79721958
also israel has 6 million jews right now =)
>>79721958
There were a ton more jews in Israel, USA and ussr after the war. Also, the user ones could have been dealt with by the Soviets and blamed on the Germans, much like the katyn fiasco.
>>79719735
True, but the holocaust did happen.
If people didn't go full neo nazi hitler worship and just admit the facts than maybe we'd have a chance at enlightening people.
>Nazi's put Jews in internment camps for forced labor
>Towards the end of the war they weren't being fed enough
>Anyone that died from starvation or disease was cremated
>soldiers abandoned the camps leaving many to starve to death
>>79720745
>Wikipedia
>The same website that says obama is on of the best presidents evar
Into the trash it goes.
>>79722218
Your threshold of proof is too high. Okay maybe it's not 6mil. Maybe it's 3. Does that really change anything?
>>79721193
>mistakes
Kek
>>79719410
galileo was convicted of heresy because every one else disagreed now revisionists go to jail. fuck off fag
>>79722460
Do you even know what "holocaust" stands for? It means burnt offering. The jews pulled SIX GORILLION out of the air because they like numbers, and 6000000 because it's a nice looking number, and six has religious significance.
The whole thing was a jewish construct they can pull out of thin air whenever they like because they say "holocaust" and we kneejerk with "GIVE ISRAEL ANYTHING THEY ASK FOR."
Seriously, if you really cared about whether or not you minded condemning a country of genocide who wasn't guilty of such, you'd be looking this crap up on your own.
>>79722460
Holocaust means death by flame. Typhus, and starvation are not flame, and cremating a body doesn't count as killing it.
>>79722521
fuckin yeah dude it changes alot
>>79722460
I do not admire Hitler, what the hell are you talking about? I am only interested in the truth, and only that. Accusing me of these things is not intellectually honest.
Look at my other posts in this thread, you have yet to refute those. Any Holocaust believer always has to resort to: 'OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT' and 'SO WHAT IF THE NUMBER IS FAKE, DOES THAT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE LOLOLOL XD?' and 'THE HOLOCAUST DID HAPPEN BUT I CAN'T PROVIDE ANY FORENSIC PROOF OF IT'
>>79722740
thank you! first time ive seen somebody say this on this faggot hive of a website.
>>79722521
His threshold isn't too high. Just because you can't achieve something doesn't mean it's not achievable.
>>79722725
But repatriations to Israel and Jews were based on the number of survivors, only paid out to survivors. Maybe they should have underestimated.
>>79722029
"For 200, what is slave labour, Alex?"
>>79722521
no my threshold on proof is what is required to say something is proven
>genocide
6 million people as the genos
the german government as the one who murders as caedere
so you want to proof 6 million murders by the state means there must be 6 million people in the sphere where the state would be able to act, that means inside state territory or close to it
then all those exact same 6 million people must be found dead
then you need the qualification or murder as opposed to manslaughter
which makes the gaschambers necessary as a tool of "broad effect"
this is not too high, this is the exact subsumption required to proof the murder of 6 million people
>>79722873
Did anyone bother to confirm these so called "survivors?" There have been NUMEROUS accounts now of jews who made crap up to "keep the memory alive." One of them just confessed, and "Auschwitz survivor" who died a bit ago at 87 who confessed to some local news place he had "defamed the event by making stuff up to keep the memory of the event alive." He is not the first to have been caught lying about the whole time period.
And since they were bribing the jews to lie, I can understand why now.
>>79721958
Nigger aeroplanes with high tech satellite GPS equipment go fucking missing all the time
>>79722806
No problem. Seems pretty obvious to me.
>>79722929
i forgot you also need the causality of the german government doing something and the jews dieing and the objective attribution by law but thats kinda implied when i mentioned the gas chamber thing
>>79722925
Which is his point.
all these shitposts from deniers and not one link to evidence supporting their claim.
>>79720745
Adding those numbers up I get 5,934,020 dead.
If they can't even do that bit right how am I supposed to trust the actual counting of the millions of individuals that led to it?
>>79722925
Here bud, to prove my point from this >>79723062
Ima pull some articles.
>Argument Boils About Numbers of Auschwitz Dead
http://rense.com/general62/auch.htm
>Auschwitz for Dummies
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=4311
>Documentary Photographs Proving the National Socialist Persecution of the Jews?
http://codoh.com/library/document/924
>The Einsatzgruppen and the Holocaust
http://www.whale.to/b/einsatzgruppen_h.html
>Examining the Einsatzgruppen Reports
http://www.cwporter.com/einsatz.htm
>The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p319_Faurisson.html
>The Germans "Bred Geese in Order to Drown Out the Shouts and Torments of 250,000 Jews Murdered Inside the Gas Chambers"
http://exposing-the-holocaust-hoax-archive.blogspot.com/2014/09/sobibor-germans-bred-geese-in-order-to.html
>>79723206
Check 'em boyo.
>>79722725
>out of the air
Not quite. They like the number; it's not unbelievably big for the masses to believe yet not small enough to where they don't care. Probably some Kabbalah math as well.
>>79723206
burden of proof
>>79723206
>proving a negative
Why are any and all investigations into the facts of the matter prevented? No one is allowed to do soil examinations at Auschwitz or Dachau. No scientific inquiries have been allowed to proceed at the major sites of supposed mass exterminations. Why do you think that is?
>>79719735
kind of hard to prove shit that happened hundred years ago.
>>79723264
>links to wack job conspiracy sites
>credibility = 0
if you used this in an academic setting, you'd be laughed at.
shit's weak as fuck bro.
>>79723722
>I have no proof, so I'll just crap on your proof.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
>>79723206
Where is your forensic evidence of the Holocaust? Can you prove there has ever been a single gassed body ever found? Can you find a photo of an actual gas chamber?
I will repeat what I wrote down earlier in this thread:
When I began researching this topic years ago (from both sides), I was shocked at how poorly the evidence presented by Holocaust believers matched up against the evidence presented by revisionists. Evidence for the official story is almost entirely circumstantial, whereas evidence for the revisionists is almost entirely technical, forensic and scientific.
>>79723421
Crazy. Holocausting since 1900. Literally just making crap up to fulfill some rabbi's words. Into the warchest it goes, based japan mate.
>>79723722
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>>79723459
youd be laughed at if u try to proof 6 million murders in academics, holocaust is pure politics BRO
>>79723768
I have a high standard for proof.
Unlike you.
>literally linking to sites that are also anti-vax
Into the trash.
>>79720745
you do realize that an untold number of Jews fled to Israel and the united states right? Jews that never stepped forward to claim their birth certificates, Jews that changed their name and are now assumed to be "holocaust victims"
but are grandparents and great grandparents living all over the world.
The VAST majority of Jews that stayed behind were poor, how could they have had birth certificates?
>>79724056
So post some proof, aussie. Let's see it.
Article 19
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art19
>The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.
>Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 21
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art21
>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.
>The Origin of the '6 Million Jews' Figure
http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html#!/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html
>Photo Manipulations in the USSR
http://englishrussia.com/2012/09/06/photo-manipulations-in-the-ussr/
>Six Million Jews
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=&date1=1836&date2=1922&proxtext=6000000+jews
>The "Six Million" Myth
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369
I have way more.
>>79720935
the ausrottung argument. here it is.
>>79724138
Well apart from the trash conspiracy sites some of those sources were better.
>>79725176
still
>>79723459
and my argument that its impossible to proof the murder of 6 million people
>>79722218
>>79722929
>>79725260
You're either being deliberately obtuse or retarded if the best legal assessment of Holocaust you can come up with is "6 million murders".
>>79722460
>but the holocaust did happen.
No. By your own words it didn't. Arguably, by your own words the Allies are to blame for the Jewish deaths due to their absolute refusal to accept peace without unconditional surrender, which they knew was impossible for Germany.
Arguing about the holocaust on /pol/.
You guys just never learn.
>>79725260
6 million or not, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
>>79720745
>200k jews in estonia, latvia and lithuania?
I don't think so, buddy
>>79719735
why even deny it? it was literally the best thing to happen in this world
>>79725525
im just using german criminal law
§ 220a StGB in combination with 211 StGB and systematic interpretation
what german stgb says is pretty much the same as us code
aside from criminal law aspect my point still stands that there is no proof that can be delivered but feel fry to point out the flaws in my subsumtion i made in >>79722929
>>79719410
>illegal to deny holohoax
>http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2016/05/australia-to-forcibly-vaccinate-citizens-via-chemtrails-2-3353621.html
You know how I know you're a jew?
>>79725809
not many in Estonia, but Lithuania was full of jews. Vilnius was branded the "Jerusalem of the north". Also Kaunas, where this nice gentleman was photographed.
Who the fuck cares about the holocaust
they're pumping your kids with vaccines RIGHT NOW
Who /holocaust_doubter/ here?
The logistics of systematically killing and incinerating/burying 6 million bodies in WWII seem problematic to me
>>79726208
>they're pumping your kids with vaccines RIGHT NOW
nice satire because you aren't serious
>>79720658
> be me
>do exams
>questions on rommel
> tl:dr he was an important hero of the german army blah blah admired by everybody and shiet
> 5 /10
> you dindu said he genocided 6gorillions
some teachers just want to see the world cucked.
>>79720662
OY!
by the way...
>>79726510
>some 4 million victims gassed here
stopped reading here. Is this satire or "black propaganda" to make the holocaust deniers look bad?
>>79720745
One of the major claims for Holocaust revisionism is that the Soviet Union forged those numbers to further demonize Far right politics.
As you can see the highest numbers are from former Warschaupact states in which the Soviets had the complete authority and possibility to fake those numbers.
With only the western states which were proven by western intelligence it comes down to 509.020 people. This doesn't mean that people did not die in the eastern front. It just means that these numbers could easily be forged and heavily exaggerated
>>79720351
NON-COUNTRY
>>79726499
>whole unit in English on lolocaust
>memed about how sad it was
>continually upped the death count in my essay
>good enough marks to coast through Shakespeare skipping class showing up late with mcmuffins
Public school marks are effected greatly by agreeing with the teacher. Be a good goy dumbass
Ain't no business like Shoah-business
>>79720745
>3,000,000 of 3,300,000 killed
I don't think an army could round up and kill that many cows in a country, let alone people trying to hide and escape.
>>79726669
Probably black, but it raised a good point. In that faggy pajama kid movie it looked like an iron bunker. They've been called out on other stories. Jews are sneaky
>>79720994
Your mother is a lying jew whore. Kill her.
>>79719410
>google is a source of reliable information
>>79722929
>6 million people as the genos
>the german government as the one who murders as caedere
I smell the old school.
Are you a lawyer?
>>79727158
That's why the nazis lost the war. The nazi army was trying to kill jews when they should be fighting.
>>79729063
soon to be judge
nearly finished second exam
>>79719410
How is that a rebuttal?
If 1 in a million kids get autism from vaccines that is an issue.
How many kids have gone undiagnosed?
>>79722460
None of that is a systematic genocide via gas chambers, which is what the Holocaust is.
Fuck off with your archaic and irrelevant definitions.
>>79724056
>anti-vax
Do you remember when cigarettes didn't cause cancer?
>>79726535
There are many cases.
Also the vaccine industry has been paying out settlements for damages for years now.
But it's so silly to question why.
Why is eye witness testimony good enough for the holicaust, but not for vaccine safety?
Nobody is anti-vax btw, nor is anyone denying the Holocaust. Some people have researched the issue, and others have been spoofed propaganda.
>>79729815
cool
>>79719928
Wrongo. There was no dip in jewish population between the beginning and end of ww2. The jewish population actually grew slightly in censuses despite claims that almost half of them were murdered.
>>79731101
(-:
>>79719928
Even if that is true, it doesn't prove gas chambers or the manufacturing of jews into lamps, only that they died.
Kikes are liars, why wouldn't they lie to bully the Goyim?
Did you think they had principles or something?
>OP Clearly doesn't understand how empiricism works.
It's not like kikes would bring nigs to America and then blame whites while Jews like Tim Wise say "As a white person, I say whites need to go extinct"
We are ruled by kikes and they hate us, that much should be obvious.
