What does South-Africa think of the Netherlands?
Do you consider us brothers?
>>79702556
You have more faggotry than us but we have more niggotry, and if it came down to it (as it probably will) I'd quite happily flee to your land and beg for ancestral kindness.
>>79703552
don't worry senpai, we got you
we're electing PVV next election (which is next march) and they're notoriously pro-Boers
come home white man
>>79703552
You're more than welcome in the Netherlands bro, PVV is going to win and they have already said that they want to give free passage to Boers.
Also there's this petition going around:
https://www.change.org/p/european-commission-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe
>>79703649
>>79703729
Thanks bros, always good to know there's hope. Just gotta get some money together before the chimps fuck up the exchange rate some more
>>79703729
That's a good thing and by god those Boers and Other Whites need to get out of SA adapt, but hear me out,
What if we created a city state in Cape Town, and red-lined all the blacks from the city and kept the whites there? We could create the Singapore of Africa
>>79703804
If it ever comes to it and a lot of Boers move to the Netherlands I'll be there to help.
>fuck up the exchange rate some more
What?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5_SP1ChuuY
>>79704024
>fuck up the exchange rate some more
I meant the way our country's rand has been compared to the euro in recent years hasn't been very inspiring.
It was 10 rands to a euro until even a couple years ago and now its 16 and heading for 17 to a euro
>>79704230
Jesus that's pretty bad, I've been to places with low rates but not that low.
How much does an average white make in Suid Afrika?
>>79704363
>>79704363
I'm a fairly young person starting out in an average career and I make R. 26000 before taxes per month, with taxes its R. 21000 actual money.
Our cost of living is a bit lower of course as well, food and so on is cheaper than Europe from when I travelled but I dont have hard figures for how much
>>79704592
Just exchange your money to a better currency if youre saving it.
http://youtu.be/B_MYdZsy31c
Stay strong Afrika bros.
Vlaandere het jou ni vergeet nie
>>79705065
Jullie vrijheid is de volgende
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYyjzuyyfg
I hate how we allow hundreds of thousands of Muslims in, no question. But we can't instead import some Boers. Our Dutch brothers need help and we are not giving it to them because theb EU want 'diversity'.
We're sorry bro's ;(
>>79705575
It would still be diversity, just not the right type of diversity.
>>79705575
We already have enough white people who have jobs, pay their taxes and behave well. We obviously need more Muslims who live off government payments, commit crimes and treat every white person like shit.
>>79703552
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How hard would it be for me as the grandson of dutch immigrants to return to the netherlands? I have 100k in the bank if money is a factor
>>79702556
South Africa is ANGLO clay.
>>79706135
Not a problem whatsoever with that money, don't go live in Amsterdam or Rotterdam though.
>>79706135
Shouldn't be too difficult, a good friend of mine is an American with dutch grandparents and he moved to the Netherlands (and eventually ended up here). Has dual citizenship.
>>79702556
I’m working on trying to move there, but it's easier said than done. I’ve already tried approaching the refugee people in Netherlands, but they denied me, saying that I need actual proof. Apparently the president spouting white genocide memes and dead farmers isn't enough. They said if I cross over the border of the first European city I land in, under the Dublin Regulation, I'll be instantly deported and banned from the EU.
I will work on a degree and try for a work visa. I'll go anywhere at this point, but white countries treat you like any other immigrant, probably even worse than other immigrants because you are white. At this rate, I'll probably end up teaching English somewhere or something.
Many blacks here make it difficult for white people, saying go back to Europe and you don't belong here, but they have no idea or understanding of how cucked Europeans are and how ethnicity means nothing to them anymore. They don’t understand it’s just as hard for me to go to Europe as it is for them.
If my ancestors hadn’t come down here, I’d be living in fucking Amsterdam right now. I would be in the first world, with a paying job, a nice family, kids, and a good education. If whites hadn’t cucked out and given up on their race, I’d be able to move without any problems to the best countries on earth.
If apartheid hadn’t been ended by guilty westerners, government that couldn't cope with sanctions, and tremendous external pressure, this’d still be a first-world quality country. But instead, we have just another failed and corrupt African shithole that isn't really any different from any others.
Things are difficult. I don't want this to be me and be forced to come back here having failed: http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/canada-boots-out-sas-white-refugee-1706525
I wish people could just see what I have seen and live through what I have lived through. We would solve PC bullshit in a day.
>>79706302
>>79706135
this.
Go find a nice village in Brabant, Drenthe or Groningen to live in.
>>79706289
Piss off australia, kaapstad is ours
>>79706712
Goddammit man, I wasn't ready to feel today.
I swear that if Geert wins we will get you guys outta there, this shit has to stop, just know that there are still Dutch people out there who give a shit.
test
>>79706712
Damn.
>>79706712
Fuck man.
>>79706712
It's not like Canada actually deports people
Tons of illegals living here, or in the US, or in europe
What happened to that guy? I bet he's still living here
>>79705575
This is what I don't understand about the EU's "diversity" policies. What's the point of importing the same exact ethnicity (arabs) and culture (islam) by massive numbers if you want diversity? It doesn't make any sense at all.
>>79707527
Liberals are traitors
]I've talked to some Dutch students about South Africa and they all agreed that whites don't face persecution in South Africa but that black people do and that I was being a "typical right-winged idiot" for believing that it's the other way around since whites have unjustly dominated over blacks in SA for decades and still took away all the high paying jobs from them now.
They literally told me to retract that statement and got angry when I didn't want to, one girl even laughed and pointed in my direction when I kept to my statement.
>>79706712
i live in atlanta and ive met south africans more than anyone from other white countries its ridiculous wish there was more we could do to get you guys here
>>79706712
I hope you're able to eventually make it to the Netherlands.
Stay strong brother.
S Africa is rightful Anglo clay
From Cape to Cairo the map will be pink once again
>>79706712
You could probably hop a plane to the US and just overstay on your vacation, with a little money and perseverance you could get a job, and just be illegal.
>>79707855
Liberals are pretty fucking delusional about stuff
If you pushed em far enough, I bet you'd get them to claim the whites deserved it for being racists
Want die Boer en sy roer word nooit moeg om te ploeg.
As hy staan, staan hy sterker as 'n rots.
Sit jy kettings om sy taal, sal die duiwel jou kom haal.
Los sy grond, jy speel met 'n bom se lont.
>>79706712
Do as nigs do, come here and claim human rights. Say that if you are deported you face death.
I sincerely hope this does not only for work for nigs
>>79707855
>talking to Dutch students
There's your problem
>>79708442
It probably does
All these politicians & bureaucrats are liberals, after all.
Everyone living on the government dime is a liberal.
I'm not even worried about the current party in power, its their angry youth demographic that's so militant.
Their leader(s) often sing anti-white "struggle" songs and justify it as "expressing their culture"
It's kinda terrifying seeing future elected leaders spouting such rhetoric.
American moving to Orania here. Fuck all of you faggots trying to leave. Ek is leer Afrikaans to move there. This is why there is a problem, you lot are no better than a Syrian. Based Terre'Blanche is disappoint.
>>79708599
You're right again, this is what I had to go through yesterday.
>>79709156
Translate for us English speaking anons
>>79709213
My graduation project is about a research about my view of the world and the changeover of it. I am so extremely annoyed about everyone and everything that this annoyance is now also a fascination. The annoyance and fascination is because everything we do is actually meaningless and absurd. The subjects I treat are unrestrained social behavior and the confusion that comes from it. The results of my gradutionproject are an embodiment of this research.
I hope you traitors are reading this. You are bad and you should feel bad. You need to move to the freestate BECAUSE THE VOLKSTAAT IS HAPPENING AND FUCK YOU IF YOU DIDN'T HELP!!!
It's unbelievable how Western countries intervened in SA by imposing sanctions because muh hooman rites but refuse to do anything about the aftermath like accepting Afrikaners back into the countries.
>>79709563
Thanks anon
>>79709570
Good luck with that, why are you still in America then?
>>79709156
HKU. There's your problem
The average Dutch student can still be saved. Not these artsy 'look at me I'm so unique like everybody else'-types though
>>79708599
More like
>talking to liberal Dutch students
Surprisingly enough, I've met enough students here who seemed pretty red-pilled. Hell, we make jokes about Sweden all the time....
>>79709725
My girlfriend is on HKU and she's nothing like those people except for some tattoos and dyed hair, she's pretty traditional besides that.
>>79709624
Yeah, that's absolutely shameful.
I'd rather take the Afrikaners, who adapt easily to our culture, back to our country than to let tens of thousands of Muslims in who won't adapt to our culture even over four fucking generations.
>>79709838
Good for her. Because being or becoming an artist is something good. Society needs these people. The artsy people ruined it though. How does she cope with them?
>>79707855
>whites have unjustly dominated over blacks in SA for decades and still took away all the high paying jobs from them now
Kek what?
SA was a pretty good place when white people were in charge. Only when they got kicked out did it turn into a shitfest.
>>79709641
Finishing school, then getting involved and I can't go in to detail on that further.
I have a few different businesses I will be setting up there, and trust me there will be an /Orania General/ when I do.
Keep your snark to yourself, Oliver.
Lookith guys.
White people finally excluded completely from the South African Job market.
http://southafricatoday.net/south-africa-news/white-people-now-finally-excluded-from-the-south-african-job-market/
Enjoy your jobs while you still can, I am working on my bush craft skills so I can sustain myself when South Africa finally balkanizes.
>>79709156
>Het resultaat van mijn afstudeerproject is een belichaming van het onderzoek.
HUH
>>79709962
By laughing at their nonsense and showing me stuff like pic related.
>>79710212
Liberaal gekanker, heel veel woorden die eigenlijk niet zo veel betekenen.
>>79710268
Ze heeft vast een keer de wikipagina van Camus gelezen ofzo.
![11351243_10207021455244386_4228098134691559424_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vq40Cxq.jpg "11351243_10207021455244386_4228098134691559424_n[1].jpg")
>>79710268
Nee inderdaad, heel dat stukje betekent niks maar die laatste zin slaat alles. Durf te wedden dat ze het zelf niet kan uitleggen als je ernaar vraagt.
Afbeelding gerelateerd is zij? Was dat spandoek ook kunst?
>>79708433
Goed nummer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt55re8EEbw
>>79710212
d66-tier gebrabbel
>>79710571
Die komt waarschijnlijk met iets van "het betekent wat je denkt dat het betekent" of zoiets.
>>79706712
just wait for Geert broeder, kom naar huis.
>>79707855
>whites have unjustly dominated
>unjustly dominated
>unjustly
we can't help that whites are simply superior, justice is what we say it is you libcucks.
>>79710849
Boers also have a much higher IQ than native blacks, they take the high paying jobs because they're better suited to have those jobs.
The Cape is British, but it should be an independent state now with free markets and trade and diplomatic deals with Europe. The rest can be left to the ANC and their Chinese friends.
Grootnederland and free Cape Republic when?
>>79711399
>when?
>>79711630
When society becomes so decadent that it must return to conservative and nationalist beliefs to survive, that's when we will stop being cucks and take what is ours.
>>79706135
Why would you want to return. My advice is stay, for your own good.
>>79709788
>>79707855
Yeah, but it depends on which uni. Rotterdam (Erasmus) is pretty red pilled. But Wageningen is fucking brainwash palooza.
>>79709725
>>79709838
>>79709156
>HKU
>Student
Fucking kek, cursisten.
>>79712622
>Cursist
Spreek voor jezelf loonslaaf.
>>79712775
Tuurlijk alsof ik zou vallen voor die miem, alsof ik niet m'n eigen bedrijf heb.
>>79712892
Zoek je nog NEETs, help.
>>79711101
make the cape install the queen again
>>79712966
Je bent geen NEET als je wilt werken vrind. Anyhow, ga naar school en start iets van een simpel bedrijfje en gebruik het geld om hier weg te gaan.
>>79703649
>come home white man
>come home
>home
They have lived there for four centuries. It is their home and the international community is letting apes steal it from them and destroy it.
>>79713145
This.
>tfw no Volkstaat
>>79709079
You know you have to be Boer descent and speak Afrikaans to live in Orania?
>>79710212
>>79709156
Laat je echt denken!
>>79713120
>Ga naar school
Ik studeerde bedrijfskunde maar ik snapte er helemaal niks van, ik weet niet wat ik anders moet studeren.
>>79713393
Toerisme?
>>79702556
English raised SA fag here.
I'd much sooner go to a gun friendly US state if I had to pack up and go, you guys are cucked by the EU
>>79713479
Waarom Toerisme?
ik wil graag iets studeren waarmee ik mijn kinderen goed kan onderhouden, ik woon in de Nederlandse biblebelt en mijn vrouw is al zwanger op 21.
>>79713623
>en mijn vrouw is al zwanger op 21
Waarom domme idioot? Hopelijk is dit geen aas.
Als je al niks van bedrijfskunde snapt heb ik het met je te doen. Doe dan een MBO opleiding ofzo. Doe in ieder geval iets.
>>79713043
Natal voted against becoming a republic back in the 50s.
The province south of the Umgeni should be taken back.
>>79713886
Geen aas, ik ben streng orthodox Christelijk, ik leef van mijn vader's geld en bedrijf die hij aan mij wilt geven maar ik snap niks van wiskunde, de wiskunde is veel te moeilijk.
>>79714078
Ga er voor vechten dan. Het is onmogelijk dat een zomer cursus wiskunde en een verlengde studie dit niet kunnen oplossen. Of je verkoopt het bedrijf nadat je vader is overleden en gaat rentenieren.
>>79714460
Ik vond het verder ook niet echt interessant, ik ben veel meer geinteresseerd in politiek.
>>79714858
ja die hebben we meer nodig. Vooral SGP type lui. Maar maakt niet uit. Ik ben hier toch over 5 jaar weg.
>>79715187
Ik stem PVV, waar ga je heen broeder?
Why do you bully British South Africans?
>>79702556
Transvaal is rightful russian clay!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSHHQvY2UOs
>>79715372
Geen idee, waarschijnlijk ga ik voor Ijslands staatsburgerschap en bouw daarna een huis ergens in de stille zuidzee.
>>79713291
Not true. Asl long as you agree and live by the Afrikaner ideals as practiced in Orania are you welcomne.
>>79709079
Goed vir jou broeder. Ons het mense soos jul nodig om n Afrikanerstaat op die been te bring.
>>79709570
Vrystaat Bo!
>>79715468
Because you have the rest of the world. South africa is Boers-Dutch clay.
>>79702556
Nexit when?
>>79706302
>>79706810
How is he going to find a job outside of the major cities if he only speaks English?
>>79715468
Because you people ruined SA
>>79706712
Veel sterkte broeder
The labour party that is ruling now together with the social liberal party is against the Boers returning to the Netherlands because they are anti-white.
They clearly said so. Our education minister (a woman) said on multiple associations that the Netherlands is too white and many governmental institutions also (too many old white men!)
I will vote PVV and the pendulum will swing. Just remind yourself that it's the Dutch government and not the majority of the Dutch people who have anything against u, only naive self hating leftists.
My mom is from South Africa boer family
>>79716902
lol you live in Orania? Faggot. Wat die moer doen jy daar
>>79716021
Bratva!!!
Planning on moving to The Netherlands in 2018 once my girlfriend completes her teaching diploma. I'm only 1/4 Afrikaans - will I still be welcome there Netherbros under Emperor Geert?
Blanken moeten zoveel mogelijk emigreren en meer babies krijgen. We moeten ''White towns'' maken in China etc. Daar willen ze dat graag, net zoals ze hier en in Amerika ''China towns'' hebben. Aziatian willen graag meer Europeanen, vooral om ze Engels te leren.
>>79717452
Nee, nee. liewer in Bloemfontein. Nie veel beter nie.
Ek gee net die Amerikaner bietjie hoop jong.
>>79717578
Daar hebben wij de populatie niet voor
>>79714078
Je zou je vaders bedrijf gewoon moeten leren overnemen. Je hebt ontzettend veel geluk dat hij je die kans geeft.
>>79717578
This is the West's problem. Fertility rates. And fertility rates are directly linked to education. The more educated people are, the less they are likely to have children.
>>79705494
Afrikanerbros can u confirm this?
There are 4,586,838 white people in South Africa
This could solve the European ''low birthrate'' problem.
But instead the (((mr schultz))) wants little niglets and half niglets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4k5is-1XoU
>>79717865
Certain rotten places in Johannesburg, yes.
>>79717999
I was planning a visit to RSA but fuckin' hell does pol has some disturbing info...
>>79702556
>Do you consider us brothers?
South African living in the South of NL here.
Wouldn't say brothers. You're more like that tall normie/Chad cousin with lots of hair gel that's pretty cool, but still makes fun of you sometimes for being a little weird.
>>79717865
No, that's utter bullshit. Certain places are dangerous though. Most places in JHB I wouldn't roll down my windows for jack shit. As a white person I'd stay out of a lot of areas
>>79718174
Are you happy here in The Netherlands? More so than you were in South Africa? Was it difficult finding employment? Give us some insights for others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK-RihafQec
>>79718193
Sandton is pretty comfy. Dashprod in the lap and handgun on the hip.
>>79717865
Just don't be an idiot when you are here: use your common sense and you will be fine.
Many people who become targets are the ones who fall for "Africa Aid" type of adds.
>>79707077
>>79710666
'If Geert wins he'll get you guys outta there.'
>Geert at the helm of an eastindiaman with a deck full of boer families, and over his shoulder is Cape Town, burning. Monkeys screeching can be heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJPcYfOfog
>>79718574
If someone was rich would suggest them to migrate? or would it be a mistake?
>>79718336
Yes, I'm happy, why wouldn't I be?
I can't really tell you if I'm more happy than I was in South Africa, since I've lived more than half my life outside of it, but I don't want to go back. I have never, save for a few drunk nights as a teen being aggressively offered weed by backstreet Moroccans, felt unsafe here.
I've not been properly employed yet, I'm in my second year of university, but finding a summer job was relatively easy.
There's a bunch of Ministerie van OCW stuff you have to jump through if you want to integrate and eventually become a permanent resident and citizen, and I'm in the middle of them now.
Its not a nice thing to say, but I think of guys as similar to Swedes.
>Blindy liberal, bicycle riding cucks
I am however amazed at your tolerance for degeneracy without becoming openly degenerate yourselves.
If we allowed weed and prostitutes like you guys tomorrow the coons would make this place Somalia by the end of the week.
You also don't want our white trash, they would make you deeply ashamed. I don't think you guys sent your best down here 300 years ago.
>>79718668
Someone in SA to other country: Not yet. But do have your second passport in the back pocket.
Someone to South Africa: By all means. You will still have your second passport. Rich people and big business can get away with a lot in SA.
ONORABLE MEMBAS PLEASE
DIS IS DISPEEKABLE
ONORABLE MEMBAS PLEASE WITHDRAW YOUR UNPARLIAMENTARY COMMENTS
>>79718949
>>79704592
Get out while you can. Come to the America South, we could use some conservatives to offset the liberal Northeners from coming here
>>79705065
are you in voorpost?
>>79718806
All of the western world is in slow decay, you can't personally blame us for it.
It's a cycle we have to go through but it'll never last, temporary, idealistic and naive beliefs that can only survive in a prosperous society always make way for conservative and nationalist beliefs, we'll make sure to come pick you guys up when it gets to that.
And your worst whites are still better than our best nogs.
>>79718949
The SA parliament really are a merry bunch.
How can the DA guys stand it in there?
>>79719226
the worst whites will break your country into two
>>79705065
>>79719127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5dsVM-V5E
Is Voorpost nog actief dan? Dacht dat dat meer iets uit de jaren 80-90 was.
>>79719317
>the worst whites will break your country into two
How has that ever been the case? I appreciate t hem because they're the only whites that keep the birthrates up.
>>79718806
>Blindy liberal, bicycle riding cucks
You're thinking of the Randstad.
If you live in any major metropolitan area around the world, you'll get degeneracy and shit.
Go to literally anywhere else and it's as conservative and anti-immigration as you can get in Europe these days without getting firebombed by Antifa.
The place I live in is also filled with old people, makes for very little degeneracy and shit.
>>79719426
boers allowed large scale immigration into the SA during the apartheid to spite the british
>>79711399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-SnkWCNBLQ
Hey Nedernegers, what does Afrikaans sound like to you all? What does their accent remind you of?
>>79706712
>>79703552
Why the fuck would a Boer want to live in th Netherlands?
The Dutch people probably despise you and the culture/environment there is completely different from South Africa. You'd be better off in America/Australia or Brazil
>>79719562
>boers allowed large scale immigration into the SA during the apartheid to spite the british
source?
>>79702556
yes
>>79719723
>French
Take your walloons and go
>>79719688
Really hard to explain. Kinda like old Dutch from 200 years ago but I asked some Afrikaners the same and they replied that WE sound like the old Dutch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U2HsdbbDgI
Samen staat het Nederlandse volk sterk, vergeet nooit onze Zuid-Afrikaanse Broeders!
>>79719781
i'm south african you racist
>>79719702
dont trust the boers. they dont consider the dutch as friends. if they were friends the dutch empire already went to their aid during the time the boers were put in concentration camps by the brits.
the boers will not stop ruining nations theyre in until theyre given their own state.
>>79718618
>>79719850
I know, it's a joke, what are you doing in France?
>>79719782
Does it sound pleasant?
>>79719345
Voorpost zal voortbestaan zolang hun doel om Vlaanderen en Nederland te herenigen nog niet bereikt is.
>>79719914
I've always thought it sounds more fluent if that makes sense. Melodic, less harsh. I'm always intrigued when I hear it, mostly trying to figure out how the different words evolved.
What does /pol/ think of based Julius Malema?
Is he redpilled?
>>79719694
The language is pretty identical
>>79719911
Playin S.T.A.L.K.E.R, eating cold pizza and wanting to kill the foot supporters outside.
And you, Dutchfriend?
>>79719694
>The Dutch people probably despise you
They don't
>the culture/environment there is completely different from South Africa
If you can't adapt to other cultures while maintaining your own you deserve to die out. It's not as different as you'd think, too. The environment doesn't matter for shit either.
>You'd be better off in America/Australia or Brazil
I can't argue really with Australia, but suggesting people you want better opportunities in life without the threat of a major nigger Chimp-out, to go to the country of chimp-outs and BLM, or to the Zika country is just stupid.
>>79719782
It's basically old Dutch but with a lot of influences from other languages like German and English.
I'd personally call Afrikaans a more "evolved" Dutch, since it gets rid of a lot of the wonky bits and almost all of the antiquated grammar, and took in a bunch of things from other languages.
The evolved bit is only there if you believe in the fact that as a language evolves it gets simpler, which may not really be the case -- not a linguist, I don't really know.
>>79719880
I asked for a source and you did not provide any. I find your motives suspect.
>>79719688
>>79719782
To them, Standard Dutch probably sounds archaic because of the (to them) excessive amount of conjugation and how Standard Dutch is pronounced more neatly and eloquently.
Afrikaans has such a nice "lazy" and chill pronunciation and its so blissfully simple in terms of conjugation, its really pretty neat. Some words they use are archaic here and vice versa.
>>79720045
>based
>Julius Malema
no
>>79719702
>Watch Mr Thorax when he's in SA
>Everyone glares at him
>Most refuse to speak to him and are visibly disgusted by his being there
>"Why won't they talk to me?"
>"Because you're British"
>Boers
>>79720045
>>79719688
Simplified Duch, I think it's pretty cute, I can understand everything.
They make a lot of "ah" noises while we're much more gutteral than them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_8snLihxWs
>>79720045
Afrikaners, does this Mugabe wannabe have a shot at winning any election? How about the DA? Also thoughts on the DA?
>>79720075
Playing Witcher 3 but S.T.A.L.K.E.R Is one of my favourite series ever.
>>79720293
>while we're much more gutteral than them.
Both Afrikaans and standard Dutch sound pretty guttural to me. The only other kind of Dutch I've heard is Antwerp dialect, which sounds very smooth to my anglophone ears.
>>79720147
So? This just tells me that they hate the British and I can't blame them for that considering what you guys did over there.
>>>boers allowed large scale immigration into the SA during the apartheid to spite the british
now gib proof
>>79720343
Based taste tb(h).
>>79720293
Sounds a bit like Swedish
>>79720082
>>79720070
I thought the Dutch were extreme leftists that had forsaken the boers because they saw them as racist and ignorant? Maybe you like them but I doubt your fellow countrymen do.
Also the Netherlands is nothing like South Africa other than the similar language. There is no room for the Boers to live their traditional lifestyle and farm, people live tightly compact in cities, the people are far more liberal, the gun laws are incredibly strict, the people are irreligious, the landscape is flat and wet, it's nothing like SA.
At least in the US, Brazil and Australia there is room too farm and practice their traditional lifestyle.The US and Brazil have cheap available land and farming cultures. US has lax gun laws, Australia and the US both use English which the boers are familiar with. Chimp-out shit only happens in ghettos in the major cities where the Boers would have no reason to move to.
>>79720854
>Maybe you like them but I doubt your fellow countrymen do.
Let me tell you about your country
>>79720854
We're not extreme leftists, we haven't had a leftist government without atleast some form of right-winged government to compensate for years, most of the Netherlands is pretty right winged and anti-immigration.
I openly joke about killing moroccans to my family, friends and people around me and it's pretty much normal to call black people niggers outside of the cities.
>>79720854
We're moving to the right actually. Look at polling data. 2017 elections will most likely be massacre for leftists.
>>79721355
Some of my leftie friends fear a PVV/VVD coalition and try to make people vote vor PVDA as a tactic.
>>79721490
who are VVD?
>>79721490
PvdA is going to be decimated either way. D66 is the main enemy now.
>>79721490
>and try to make people vote vor PVDA as a tactic.
Kek, dumb fucking lefties. They would be better off betting on the SP or Jesse snotneus klaver
>>79721644
No, Groenlinks is.
https://home.noties.nl/peil/
>>79702556
The netherlands should be ashamed of themselves for turning their backs on the south africans like the british did
>>79721577
Our cuckservatives. Current PM = VVD though they call themselves Liberal it doesn't have the same meaning as it does in the Anglosphere.
Current coalition is VVD/PvdA=(labour)
>>79721705
Groenlinks is even worse. Are people prepared to work with them though?
>>79721843
People are prepared to work with anyone who isn't Wilders.
fuck pvv im voting denk next election
>>79720854
>There is no room for the Boers to live their traditional lifestyle and farm
You speak as if though there are no farms in the Netherlands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands#Agriculture
There's even a dating show called "Boer zoekt vrouw".
Also, I don't know where the fuck you got this fucked up idea of what the Boers and Afrikaners are. The vast majority of them are not farmers anymore. None of them needs to live on a farm to survive.
The people are liberal. This matters how? This somehow negatively affects your life?
Gun laws in South Africa are also getting stricter. My grandfather who lives there had almost all his weapons confiscated by the government. But the fact of the matter is you will never need a gun here unless you're involved with some seedy shit. It's safe as fuck almost everywhere you go, and where it isn't you just need to use your common sense, like anywhere else in the world.
The majority of people are irreligious, but religion is still a major part of the culture in some parts of the country. We have Heiligdomsvaart here. Tons of people are involved, it's beautiful. Other than that, religion is a personal thing, just like I, a South African, was taught The Bible says. You're not any more pious if you go to big congregations every week and sing hymns, than if you praise God by yourself.
Landscape doesn't matter for shit, and it's not flat everywhere. Even where it is, there's a sense of organised beauty to it you don't get anywhere in South Africa. Seeing and experiencing different sorts of environments and landscapes is only a good thing.
There's absolutely no reason to isolate yourself in a singular culture and environment your entire life. I'm not a multi-culti type of guy, but I genuinely don't think there's anything you lose as a person if you experience different environments, naturally and culturally, in your life. In fact, I think you can only gain.
>>79721942
>I don't want to vote for populists with no plan
>let me vote for this other populist with no plan
:^)
>>79721910
Just add up the numbers they would literally have to combine every other party. and still come up short if the polling turns out to be similar.
>>79721954
hes basically just saying the boers are cowboys who would have a hard time adapting to the european "no guns are roughness allowed" laws
>>79722117
This,
I'm not afraid of anything, they can't do shit.
Future looking bright bro's.
>>79721954
the boers are not called dutch afrikaners like the british afrikaners
theyre a tribe of their own, outcasts from the dutch empire that went to africa to find their own home. they dont want to live in fuckin holland they want to live in africa, the very continent their ancestors sacrificed their lives for.
they have 0 things in common with the dutch other than maybe their language
>>79722163
It's more like No baseball bats, pepper spray and sharp objects laws at this point.
>>79722416
didnt some women get in trouble for using pepper spray on a migrant rapist a few months ago?
>>79722354
Who are you? Why does Malaysia give a fuck. Who are you shilling for? Your first posts are about how nobody should trust Boers and now you're continuing with your divide and conquer tactics.
>>79722500
That was Denmark I think. Pepperspray is just straight up banned over here though.
>>79722354
Fuck off Malaysia.
>>79722507
you shouldnt trust the boers
the boers are a fringe group of people that always cries for their own autonomy. theyre like a cult. theyre like those sulu people
once a boer always a boer.
>>79722550
why? its not a dangerous life ending weapon, its literally something a woman can use if shes assaulted in an ally way or something. I dont get the logic of it
>>79722683
No argument there Ameribro I agree with you. It's because people say it caused 'permanent damage' actually had an argument with my sister about pepperspray and she was against it because she believed 'crazy bitches' would attack men for no reason.
Weapons are the great equalizer for women but they're so brainwashed.
>>79722572
do you seriously think when boers came to netherlands theyre gonna say, were finally home?
listen here dipshit, all the belgians fucked off from congo because belgium was their home. same goes for the rhodesians. britian, anglo states are their home.
the boers? the boers's home is africa.
theyre not dutch. they're lost white men, like the pilgrims when they came to north america
>>79719562
Oh really?!
>>79722884
it really is different. Over here, the cops congratulate a woman if she shoots a rapist dead
>>79722890
Tell us who you are shill. Black SA using a proxy? Just fuck off.
>>79722890
No. I didn't think that. I don't feel as if though I'm "finally home" because that's fucking stupid.
You don't go to a country because you have some cultural connection to it or you want to "go home", though that certainly helps.
You go there for the opportunity, and if you're certain you can contribute to society there and integrate. There are an infinite amount of reasons for emigrating. Any one of them is valid.
>>79723186
I remember as a kid when police went door to door collecting all pepper spray. Don't trust leftists when they're saying they're not coming for your guns.
>>79723452
And then they came for the knives, liberals only stop until everything you ever use to defend yourself is gone.
>>79723959
You so desperately want to fit in with the cool American kids. Stop using liberals the wrong way, and stop whining about muh weapons being taken.
>>79724239
I'm not pro-guns in a no-guns country, but taking knives and pepperstray, the last one mostly used by women to defend themselves is where I draw the line.
>>79723452
what kind of boer want to come to this cuck of a nation
in africa all boers with dignity have strikers and full auto FALs cached in their homes
>>79724239
>>79724375
The larger problem is not the availability to guns it is that our self defense laws are idiotic.
Also Americans have deluded the term Liberal.
>>79724392
answer this you nignog
>>79723211
>>79724476
Lefty rats then if we're keeping it Dutch.
>>79724476
Bollocks, how are our self defence laws idiotic?
>>79724676
The violence must be proportional to the cause it is intended to defend. Which is retarded, not only is it victim blaming, it is punishing the victim. We cuddle criminals in this country.
>>79724801
No, there is also noodweerexces. Educate yourself, you dumb cunt.
>>79724930
I'm fully aware what you call it retard. You haven't defended any of it. All you throw around is insults. Why should I be prosecuted when some fool breaks into my house and I kick his ass with a baseball bat?
>>79702556
Can I just travel to Amsterdam, never leave, and hopefully get citizenship there? And id be on a tight budget
>>79725186
Amsterdam is a shithole mate. Why would you want to live there? It's a tourist trap full of criminals. Also expensive as fuck.
>>79724996
You claim noodweer danwel noodweerexces. When the judge says there was no noodweer, because the violence was disproportional (because you used a bat), you say that you were fearing for your life and you can't remember anything because of the adrenaline. That's called noodweerexces, and you get off.
>>79724996
Actually in practice you see more cases nowadays where the judge excuses some degree of violence than before
From what Ive been hearing and reading there are fewer cases of "omg he broke the burglar's leg, now he has to go to jail" than 10 years ago.
>>79724560
what a cuck. you think knives and peppersprays are going to win you your independence?
dream more about your 80 million whites volkstaat, you boer cuck. all day living in your safe basement while you should be learning from isis how to make ieds to bomb the kaffirs to kingdom come.
>>79725256
Where should I move to then? Rotterdam?
>>79725256
t. kankerprovinciaal die eens een keer met mama naar de kalverstraat is geweest.
>>79725458
Defenitely not.
>>79725458
Groningen
>>79725458
Leiden, Haarlem, Den Bosch, Utrecht, Groningen, Nijmegen. Everything execpt Den Haag, Rotterdam and Amsterdam.
>>79725261
>From what Ive been hearing and reading there are fewer cases of "omg he broke the burglar's leg, now he has to go to jail" than 10 years ago.
This might workout sometimes but it depends on the Judge. The law is unjust. Why would I not be allowed to respond with 'disproportionate violence' when someone is abusing my rights be it by breaking into my house or robbing me? You still haven't really answered my question you just explained how you can get off in some cases.
>>79725458
Depends what you're looking for. City life / country. Are you going to work in specific field? retirement? Need more info.
>>79725477
>t. lived Den Haag most my life
Try again cuck. How is Amsterdam not a tourist trap?
>>79711101
This would be much better than the actual Suid Afrika flag
>>79725766
kanker autist
>>79725477
Ik woonde er zelf voor 2 jaar en ik geef hem groot gelijk. echt de kutste tijd van mijn leven gehad daar, wat een degenererende kutstad.
Junkies, alcoholisten, negers, marokkanen, hoeren, kankermuziek en kankertoeristen.
Van mij part bouwen we er een muur om en laten we hem dan zinken die kankerstad, alleen linkse ratten en cucks verdedigen die stad.
>>79707527
Juncker said it was to eliminate racism. How can anyone be racist if everyone is the same? Something along those lines...
>>79725725
Amsterdam certainly is a tourist trap, but it definitely isn't a shithole.
>>79725829
Ja, omdat jij waarschijnlijk ergens in west woonde met je domme provinciaalse kop. Junkies? Hoe oud ben je opa, dit is niet meer de jaren '80. Over de toeristen ben ik het eens daar moet de gemeente echt wat aan doen. Vooral die kanker anglo's met hun zuipvakanties.
>>79725683
>Utrecht
Was there a few weeks ago, there are an insane amount of qt blondes there
>>79702556
If your white and you haven't left south africa then it's a harsh reality i guess for you but you'd be perceived as nothing but a moronic piece of shit to remain there and by choice co exist with animals.
Excluding elephants, lions, tigers, bears etc.
black folk is what I'm getting at. LEAVE
and let there destruction come at there own hands.
It's a sure thing. Leave blacks to their own devices and your guaranteed extinction.
Hence latching on to every white nation they set their eyes upon.
>>79725725
You can answer with violence by restraining him. When you physically hurt him (i.e. break his leg, kill him) it can still be legal, but that has to be determined by the judge. Why would that be unjust?
>>79720296
hopefully he just separates the anc which might help DA in the short term but if they get majority it will be even worse than the ANC
>>79726031
Yeah highest population of females from 29-18
>>79725829
Mijn opa woonde aan het vondelpark nooit problemen gehad met mensen alleen richting de dam of toeristen plekken.
>>79726223
It is unjust because I shouldn't be punished for hurting some idiot that tried to rob me.
We fundamentally disagree on the rights people have that are abusing others this conversation is going nowhere. Just because SOMETIMES the judge is reasonable does not make the laws any less retarded.
>>79726311
So how is the DA any better?
>>79726018
>>79726513
>Amsterdam beschermen
Spijt van Rutte stemmen?
>>79726546
I meant if the EFF gets majority vote, but still even if the DA won we probably wont see much change anyways seeing as how liberal they are with all the affirmative action bs
>>79726546
"Niet strafbaar is hij, die een feit begaat, geboden door de noodzakelijke verdediging van eigen of eens anders lijf, eerbaarheid of goed, tegen ogenblikkelijke, wederrechtelijke aanranding."
Yes, really fucking retarded law, anon.
>>79726884
Yeah I understood what you said. I've only touched the surface of SA politics so I was wondering what the specific policies of the DA are. I know they're the more reasonable party most of the white people vote for.
>>79726978
Yes. The law is retarded. If someone gets killed because they break into my home I shouldn't be the one going to jail. It's not that fucking difficult. punishing Disproportionate violence is the problem.
the key word here is this
>noodzakelijke
In other words, to be determined by the judge. I know what the laws says.
>>79727257
"Niet strafbaar is de overschrijding van de grenzen van de noodzakelijke verdediging, indien zij het onmiddellijk gevolg is geweest van een hevige gemoedsbeweging, door de aanranding veroorzaakt."
>>79727470
>noodzakelijke
... in other words to be determined by the judge.
You think criminals should be protected from excessive bodily harm while they are abusing the rights of others. I think they don't because they have given up this right when they endangered their fellow citizens.
There is our disagreement. You can keep quoting the law which I have already explained why I think is unjust while providing no counter arguments. It's not going to get you anywhere.
>>79727781
Then you give me an example of a judge ever ruling against someone who beat the shit out of a burglar since kabinet Rutte is in power.
>>79726546
So you're saying if someone looks at you funny, you should get to bash his face in?
Proportionality is the law of all civilized people. NO MORE THAN an eye for an eye, and NO MORE THAN a tooth for a tooth.
>>79727907
>since kabinet Rutte is in power.
Nice caveat faggot. I know there's cases outgoing but I'll see if I can find one
>>79728349
>So you're saying if someone looks at you funny, you should get to bash his face in?
Because looking at someone funny is breaking the law right? No. No of course not.
>>79727907
Your criteria is way too specific. There are outgoing cases going on currently like these.
http://www.crimesite.nl/om-onderzoekt-zelfverdediging-na-inbraak/
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenland/article/detail/1664509/2013/07/06/Gewonde-inbreker-sleept-bestolen-gezin-voor-rechter.dhtml
And there are incidents of people being convicted albeit before Rutte 2 but disproportionate violence is still illegal so it could still happen.
>>79726018
>it definitely isn't a shithole.
What de neug
Vergeleken met Londen of Parijs is het een waar paradijs op aarde, maar alleen Rotterdam en Almere zijn ergere schijtholen.
De hele Randstad is kanker.
