Having 28 different laws and authorities for the capital markets (stock exchanges, for bond sales, derivatives etc.) ... instead of 1 set of laws and 1 authority
Having 28 anti-terrorist agencies which do not cooperate with each other... instead of one European FBI
Having 28 corporate income tax systems so that corporations can save taxes by relocating to tax havens (Ireland, Luxembourg) instead of one corporation tax regime.
Having 28 different passport formats and data storage systems for passport data... instead of one harmonized one
Having 28 different trade agreements with every single other non-EU country in the world, instead of 1 trade agreement per non-EU country
etc.
Why are people so stupid to believe harmonization is bad?
fuck you
Having 28 different countries in the EU makes no sense.
Let's unite under the banner of Islam, the religion of peace and create the United States of Europistan.
>>79608983
You're right. How about you give up your sovereignty and submit to Polish rule?
>>79609071
>You're right. How about you give up your sovereignty and submit to Polish rule?
How about we all give up some sovereignty and put Europeans in charge to head the European institutions... oh wait, it already is this way and we are not oppressed!
P.S: how does it make sense to have 28 different environmental standards for cars... instead of 1? or 28 different standards for new drugs and medical devices instead of just 1?
Only if:
>European Government is only voted in by Germans, other nations not allowed to vote
>only German Generals and officers in the EU military
>every country pays its taxes to Germany and we decide who gets what and how much
>the local government is also slowly replaced by Germans
>the lesser subhuman races are not allowed to decide where they want to live
>everyone who wants to enter Germany needs a special permit
>change EU name to: Das Deutsche Reich
>leaving NATO
>starting own Nuke production
>threaten to nuke everyone who gets in our way
otherwise i'm not supporting it
>>79608983
/THIS!
In unity is strength!
>>79608983
Why stop in Europe when we can have the United States of Earth?
>>79609767
only to these conditions tho >>79609615
otherwise its total fucking bullshit.
>>79608983
They're not states, they are independent countries. Or at least they were. Nobody asked us whether we wanted to become a state.
>>79608983
Just who the hell do you think you people are?
You are very, very dangerous people, indeed. Your obsession with creating this Euro state means that you’re happy to destroy democracy. You appear to be happy for millions and millions of people to be unemployed and to be poor. Untold millions must suffer so that your Euro dream can continue.
Well it won’t work. Because it’s Portugal next, with their debt levels of 325% of GDP, they’re the next ones on the list, and after that I suspect it will be Spain. And the bailout for Spain would be seven times the size of Ireland’s and at that moment all of the bailout money has gone – there won’t be anymore.
But it is even more serious than economics. Because if you rob people of their identity. If you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence. I can only hope and pray that the Euro project is destroyed by the markets before that really happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg
>>79608983
Come on now Angela. There's no point asking this on /pol/.
Anyone have the quote about how government and law are determined by the local geological, social, and economic terrain and how universal laws are bound to be worse for everyone involved?
>>79609002
fpbp.
>desparate shill detected.
>>79609950
That speech has stayed with me ever since he made it. It's getting close to crunch time, and Nationalism and violence is slightly ahead at this point.
>>79609615
This
Fuck feels
Because you went about it undemocratically. You sought to bring all this in through the back door rather than trying to convince the european electorates to vote for it. Your 'harmonization' is undemocratic and corrupt.
>>79608983
Because if you think faceless unelected globalists have YOUR best interests at heart you're a fucking idiot
>>79608983
> harmonisation
> being ruled by an authoritarian anti-european cabal of kikes ironically peddled by germans.
I cant wait till we bomb your revolting country again you disgusting Hun
>>79608983
i wouldnt mind if you just turned europe into greater germany but all this kike led cuckoldry is not okay hans
Your actions are breeding extremism and violence.
You are not listening to the peoples of Europa and you don't understand the specific economical conditions that each zone needs to flourish.
You are dividing the brother from the brother, the wife from the husband, the friends.
>>79609950
there is literally nothing good about democracy
Literally kill all Germans.
>>79610324
What would a slav know of democracy anyways.
>>79608983
I agree. But unfortunately people are too narrowminded to build a great empire.
>>79610200
>faceless unelected globalists have YOUR best interests at heart
This needs memed. We've seen it in Ben's work. Recent election results show the people are awakening.
>>79610425
more than a mongolian desu
>>79610594
Mongols are very democratic senpai.
because if everything is harmonized no body is different and if that happens there's no sense of self worth in the individual.
if that happens people can be controlled completely.
that's really bad and basically means humanity stops moving forwards.
>>79608983
>German
Of course.
>>79608983
Not this time Kraut. You want something you have to fight for it.
>>79609002
amen brother
>>79610147
>Because you went about it undemocratically. You sought to bring all this in through the back door rather than trying to convince the european electorates to vote for it. Your 'harmonization' is undemocratic and corrupt.
Every single person has the chance to vote their respective governments AND for MEPs. Nothing gets passed without these people's consent.
>>79608983
Maybe if you fuckers didn't speak dozens of languages this wouldn't be a problem. What are you going to do? Cuck yourselves and enforce english? Thanks for not having a solution faggot. Sage
>>79608983
Fuck off, commie
>>79608983
Holy shit I just realised Germany always wants this
first it was the holy roman empire
in the first world war, it was all Germanic peoples under one flag
in the second, it was hitler and his great reich
now its this
germans are the real jews
>>79610803
>Maybe if you fuckers didn't speak dozens of languages this wouldn't be a problem.
There are three working languages in the EU, German, French and English.
There is NO official working language in the United States of America. People speak English, Hispanic, French, Korean, Japanese, German etc.
>>79609227
Win a world war for once and we wouldn't have these problems
>>79608983
We are independent nations you globalist cuckstain.
>>79608983
>Why are people so stupid to believe harmonization is bad?
Such people see 28 different unique, distinct cultures which have evolved their best friends of governance over the course of two thousand years.
Stupid, sir, is what you call anyone who believes that it is a vast improvement -- were it even possible -- to throw all of that away and homogenize them.
>>79610901
>germans want a stable, powerful europe
the horror
anyway the EU is not german, its the opposite of what they want. it was imposed by the anglos french and jews to destroy germany and groom europe for rape by international capital
>>79608983
Actually, all of those things make sense, precisely because there are 28 fucking countries in the Union, and each of them is different.
>Harmonization
Being brutalized into Germany's image isn't "harmony," it's Imperialism.
>>79608983
>Shilling for globalizm and Merkel-Reich
>german flag
Fuck you dumb niggers, you should get nuked.
>>79608983
27 now cunt and don't you fucking forget it
>>79608983
because they can't see beyond the tip of their nose and think that muh sovereignty will actually be worth anything when you're at war with your neighbour or shitless poor
>>79610305
The real problem is that each country thinks for itself, most countries simply don't give a shit about EU (unless is gibs time) and then complain when someone else takes decision for them. Just look at how completely uncommitted are Poland and Hungary, and they're not the only ones
>>79611028
slav cuck
>>79611161
>27 now cunt and don't you fucking forget it
28 and don't forget that. You won't leave. Haven't you learned anything? If you could leave, Article 50 would have already been triggered.
>>79611250
It's being left to the next PM to do. All but one candidate said it would be done very quickly.
>>79611305
>It's being left to the next PM to do. All but one candidate said it would be done very quickly.
It won't be done quickly... or at all. Screencap this.
There is absolutely no reason to postpone the Article 50 notice... EXCEPT for not wanting to hand it in at all.
>>79611423
To get negotiations set up maybe
>>79608983
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html
Don' buy into their crap, folks.
>>79609615
>Germany in charge of everything
European caliphate in 2 years.
>>79608983
>germany arguing for EU
oh wow what a surprise.
Even the germans that browse /pol/ are still complete cucks
>>79611464
>To get negotiations set up maybe
What?
If you want to set up negotiations quickly, you better just hand in Article 50. Until it is handed in, nothing as in NOTHING will happen.
Trust me, the next PM will go on screen saying something like "we need to keep all options open and as such, Article 50 should not be triggered" - and then things will be forgotten. Remember the Swiss vote on EU immigration? No? Well, I do... and they never implemented it.
>>79610262
>authoritarian anti-european cabal of kikes
that's literally what you and your son US of A are
also i can't wait to see your pathetic island and your revolting inbred people begging for change
>>79608983
Having 196 different laws and authorities for the capital markets (stock exchanges, for bond sales, derivatives etc.) ... instead of 1 set of laws and 1 authority
Having 196 anti-terrorist agencies which do not cooperate with each other... instead of one World FBI
Having 196 corporate income tax systems so that corporations can save taxes by relocating to tax havens (Cayman Islands, Luxembourg, Panama) instead of one corporation tax regime.
Having 196 different passport formats and data storage systems for passport data... instead of one harmonized one
Having 196 different trade agreements with every single other non-NWO country in the world, instead of 1 trade agreement per non-NWO country
etc.
>Why are people so stupid to believe harmonization is bad?
Idk maybe centralization leads to corruption and inneficient beaurocracy or something like that.
>>79611742
I think that regions should all set up their own unions, so that we only have 5, 6 or maybe 7 sets of different harmonized rules. It will be much easier to then form a world government.
>>79608983
Parliament should be sovereign, nothing more.
>>79611742
>centralization leads to corruption and inneficient beaurocracy
the opposite of this is true, decentralization leads to waste of money and corruption of the local authorities, see USSR
>>79608983
>Having 28 corporate income tax systems so that corporations can save taxes by relocating to tax havens (Ireland, Luxembourg) instead of one corporation tax regime.
But we have 28 different tax systems, and any company worth anything establishes itself in the best tax regime.. That's why so many companies have Ireland-Netherlands-Bermuda constructions going on for tax purposes. The EU encourages this, with the CJEU going so far as holding that the Freedom of Establishment within the EU means companies SHOULD establish themselves where it's most benificial to them, because that was the hole idea behind the freedom of establishment in the first case. Centros v UK iirc.
>>79611585
The leadership election will take like 3 months, we get a new PM in September. If we trigger it now we literally just lose loads of time. You really underestimate the determination of some of the candidates.
btw OP your girl is most likely at least 50% russian
>>79609002
/thread
>>79611830
hans, you are truly lost and you have no drive for self determination.
>>79611959
>implying that both aren't true and eventually everything will be corrupt
>>79611830
What does the world in its current state need a world government for? There is no need for the planet to be united under one order yet. Maybe in 200-500 years it will be needed but not now.
>>79608983
ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer
right, my germ friend?
>>79609615
Says the cuckflag with no military.
If one country is to stand at the top of the EU, it's France, and it will be horribly obvious at the first need of military strength, which no other European country still maintain.
>>79608983
fuck you, looks like we'll have to remove kraut the third time, for good
>>79608983
>Why are people so stupid to believe harmonization is bad?
Because the euro is a fucking disaster and the other things you try and ''''harmonize'''' will be even worse?
>>79609834
Indeed.
>>79610798
top goy
>>79609615
>Germany in charge
>Merkel
Yeah nah mate.
>>79612255
More like ein Allah
>>79608983
28 uncooperative but functioning entities is better than 1 useless one.
>>79608983
Loads of German cuck threads today.
The whole EU is a con, they unharmonized it on purpose by introducing a common monetary policy and currency. They sold us gasoline even though nobody wanted a car, and now we gonna have to buy the car. This con has gone on long enough.
>>79612255
in unite is strength. Why rejecting it?
Alone Poland gets fucked, every country gets alone fuckd by bigger ones. Thats the natural way.
off coarse all the global powers reject it.
Birth of a new super power. They would have to stop bulling smaller eu country's in to submission.
Rejecting the EU means to be traitor to its own ppl.
>>79608983
Wow, if only there were a country that had tried to unite an entire continent under its rule before encountering the irreconcilable differences that culture, economic circumstance and environment create in large, culturally and geographically diverse administrative regions.
If only there were some country renowned for its legislative ineffectuality that had spent the better part of 250 years struggling in vain to convince these states to cooperate, only to suffer a civil war that killed more of its people than every other war it had ever fought combined, breeding eternal enmity between the two factions that continues to this day.
If only there were a shining example of cultural, economic and moral collapse that exists at this point only as a dire warning against the folly of attempting to administrate huge non-homogeneous countries by force instead of allowing them to administer themselves. Well, I guess that's US stumped.
If only there were a way to protect multiple states without welding them together with an unelected authoritarian government, that'd be super fucking NATO.
If only there were a way for multiple countries to trade and share a degree of kinship without oppressing all parties involved. NAU that'd be fucking brilliant.
I guess since we don't have any such examples or any such means, we'll just have to stick with what we've got, but if EU ask me, it sounds like a recipe for disaster.
So how many times now will it be that Germany gets BTFO in the world? Looks like they wanna have another go.
Pepe = Anglo
Wojak = Germans
>>79612527
>Rejecting the EU means to be traitor to its own ppl.
funny that in germs' minds importing millions of shitskin doesn't
>>79609002
fpbp
>>79608983
If you want to live on a great big mass of clay that has one system, move to Canada/USA/Russia/Antarctica/Greenland.
Stop trying to genocide European people.
>>79609002
sums it up nicely
>>79608983
the problem isn't the EU - the EU is good idea
the problem is in practice the EU politicians are terrible and were destroying europe economically, politically and demographically
>>79611221
>irish calling people cuck
>in english
kek
>>79611830
>I think that regions should all set up their own unions, so that we only have 5, 6 or maybe 7 sets of different harmonized rules. It will be much easier to then form a world government.
Having 7 different laws and authorities for the capital markets (stock exchanges, for bond sales, derivatives etc.) ... instead of 1 set of laws and 1 authority
Having 7 anti-terrorist agencies which do not cooperate with each other... instead of one World FBI
Having 7 corporate income tax systems so that corporations can save taxes by relocating to tax havens (Cayman Islands, Luxembourg, Panama) instead of one corporation tax regime.
Having 7 different passport formats and data storage systems for passport data... instead of one harmonized one
Having 7 different trade agreements with every single other non-NWO country in the world, instead of 1 trade agreement per non-NWO country
etc.
>>79608983
What's the story behind the webm?
>>79611250
You sound like a narcissistic american single mother. Fuck off.
>>79608983
"Unharmonization" is Europe's strength. Always has been.
Centralization only brings stagnation and corruption.
>>79608983
> Having 28 different laws
But anon, multiculturalism is good.
> What is a culture without rules?
Are you proposing a universal ban on the burqa and other such symbols of tribalism?
You seem to be drifting into doing so with your own flag...
>>79608983
wtf i hate europe now
>>79609002
fpbp
>>79608983
This "harmonization" would be cool and all if it actually worked instead of creating corruption and all kinds of stupid shit.
>>79613368
I love you too commie faggot
>>79608983
>Charlemagne tried to make it differently.
>Napoleon tried to make it differently.
>Hitler tried to make it differently.
They all failed.
BUT NOT SOROS AND HIS FRIENDS !
>>79608983
Yeah I'm not really surprised that a German wouldn't understand the rest of Europe not wanting to live under German rule.
>>79614087
Italian player's gf
>>79608983
There's 194 countries in the world, shall we united our laws with them too?
EU shouldn't exist to begin with.
>Europoors can't even say mean things on social media without being arrested
>They still think they know something about how to run free, democratic nation states
>>79615251
>using jewish social media
Not like you even know what democracy looks like with your controlled two party system.
>>79615251
this is coming to us friend
>>79608983
And what about the mediterranean
What do you have to say about that?
Dumb kraut. Don't even know why I am taking this bait.
>>79609227
>How about we all give up some sovereignty
You first
> put Europeans in charge to head the European institutions
That's racist germany
> we are not oppressed
Sure, I'm so glad the EU stepped in to stop the reduction of the minimum wage in germany, or isnt supporting france stripping workers rights, or isnt trying to push the TTIP, or isnt ignoring referendums or forcing them to be redone when the result doesnt agree with them.
Let alone the number of times the EU's court has just ruled in its own favour for arbitrary reasons. This isnt a question of agreeing to sovereignty, it's a case of a trade consortium assuming rule of law over its members and ignoring multiple members who voted against it in a supposedly unanimous agreement.
If you have to do something by stealth then it's clearly not in everyone's best interests.
>>79609002
This basically sums it up.
>>79608983
>harmonization
is this the new trendy leftist word
Like we are going to give up 428 years of sovereignty to a meme country like yours Hans. Go fuck yourself.
>>79608983
Not now. Later.
>>79608983
KILL YOURSELF JEW
>>79608983
Democracy simply doesn't work on that scale, it's too trivial for kikes to run things.
>>79608983
ahh the Tyskersvin is at it again.
>Instead of 1 set of laws and 1 authority
"Come on Anon! Give up your culture, people and sovereignty for some petty cash! Economy before your people anon!" I despise you Germans more than I do the roaches and mudslimes.
>European FBI
You fuckers are insane. German law is a fucking travesty and completely unjust.
>instead of one harmonized one
??? We are not one nation? We do not even share that fucking much. I have as much in common with Germans, Spaniards and Frenchies as I do with Russians and Japanese. You do not see me wanting to harmonized with the Japs and Putin do you?
>instead of 1 trade agreement per non-EU country
>Non-EU Country
The EU was a club for nations who wanted to tariffs free trade with each other. It was never intended to be a decision making unit.
>Why are people so stupid to believe harmonization is bad?
Its 1864 all over again. "Come On Däne! We know you want to join the German nation! Why are you so stupid!?".
Germans, not even once.
>>79609950
>Because if you rob people of their identity. If you rob them of their democracy, then all they are left with is nationalism and violence.
>implying Nationalism is bad
I like Nigel but even he is cucked somewhat.
