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Can Daesh be vanquished? How do you defeat an idea?
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Can Daesh be vanquished?
How do you defeat an idea?
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With a nuclear bomb.
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>>79598450
Genocide everyone who believes in the idea
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>>79598576
So would you nuke the entire world? Daesh is everywhere.

>>79598609
>implying they'll tell you
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It's an attractive idea because it's a large group of semi organized and established radicals who have lax recruitment. Once you wither it down to a small ragtag group who can't do shit, no one will give a shit about them anymore and they will die out.

TLDR everyone wants to be in the "big boy group". If they are no longer a large organized group, they will wither away.
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Hit Dabiq, completely destroy it. Dabiq is a small farm village in northern Syria that, according to prophecy, will be the battleground where the Caliphate and Rome's forces clash. Wipe Dabiq off the map, forever.

Then wipe out The IS capital of Raqqa, eliminating its divine status.

IS will lose recruits when it is shown to lack divinity.
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>>79598450
SMASH IT
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>>79598450

Can we please first call it by its real name
The Islamic State?

Besides Daesh is the acronym in Arabic for ISIS anyways. Its just used in English to disassociate it with Islam because the normie goys are stupid.
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>daesh
cuck
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Constant antimuslim education in the media. Just barrage them with constant debunking and criticism of islams superstitions and inconsistancies, their backwards religion cant stand up to science and scrutinity. That or preach to them and convert them to christianity. They see western media aswell, and if they try to prevent it invade their countries and then force it on them. No hearts and minds and trying not to offend the invaded population but propoganda and conversion by the sword.
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>>79598450
>daesh
Commit suicide
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>>79598450
don't kill them
if u do, they win
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>>79598450
>How do you defeat an idea?

How was the Nazi ideology defeated
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>>79598450
If you kill every single Muslim on the face of the earth and burn Mecca and Medina to the ground that should do it
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>>79599642
We need to kill Hitler.
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>>79598450
Legalize slavery if it's on captured terrorists. Let the market sell them off and maintain their numbers at a sustainable level as they replace Chinese peasants in factories.
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gas them
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>>79598450

Put every B52 over Saudi Arabia.

Vote your local Nationalists/Memeists into power.

Alternatively, outsource kebab removal to Putin and the boys.
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>>79599642
Bombs
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I don't answer seriously but I will do this time:

Plan to destroy ISIS:

>Stop the chaos in ME, stability is the opposite of terrorism
>Give Sunnis equal rights with Shia in Iraq
>Get Russia/Iran out of Syria and let opposition and Kurds fight for their freedom
>Help re-establish a new Syria. With a part of it as an independent Kurdish country
>Start sending back refugees to Syria a little by little
>DO NOT INTERVENT IN ME AGAIN, PLAY 4D CHESS WITH RUSSIA SOMEWHERE ELSE
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>>79598450
Stop abiding by Geneva conventions when fighting an enemy that does not care about them.
Force media blackout on events so people at home don't get butt blasted and demand we stop.

Then unleash our full arsenal. No more pussy precision strikes, no more "can't risk damage to mosques or civilians".
Those people need to be made aware that the west is absolutely capable of utterly annihilating them within a week if we really wanted to.
If another group rises in a few years to take their place, do it over again. They'll soon get the message that they continue to exist by our mercy alone.
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>>79599971
>oh no muh poor sunni civilians who did nothing wrong
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>>79598450
>Can Daesh be vanquished?
>How do you defeat an idea?
Same as bugs. Eradicate every infestation. Don't shy away from collateral damage.

As cruel and hard as it sounds, you have to punish people who are indirectly associated with them too.
This way they won't allow these ISIS fucks anywhere near them. They will have no place to infect.

You may think this sounds like typical edgelord stuff, but this has been used throughout history and it works extremely well in stamping out ideologies.

>inb4 argumentum ad antiquitatem
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>>79598450
Any western nation could vanquish them if they had the political and moral will.
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>>79599642
No fedorasan, how was catholicism removed from Japan?
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>>79598670
no just the middle east and africa then in all over the world ban islam and enforce the law more strikly than any other with death penalty for breaking, get rid of every history and written crap literally anything islam. Do this for a couple of generations tada no more islam and most of violent conflicts "resolved".
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>>79599964
Exactly : )
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>>79600096
The same way, toothpaste. USA nuked Nagasaki.
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>>79598450

You defeat an idea by destroying its symbols and meaning.

The West should literally nuke Mecca. Not joking.
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>>79600036
I'm not a Sunni faggot.

Shia living the same shit in Bahrain the Sunnis living in Iraq...

In Iraq you get killed simply for having a Sunni name (that Shia hate the most).

Soon or later, Europe will become chaos, and by Europeans. Remember me.
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>>79598450
6 words

Condemn the idolatry of the Salaf
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>>79600189
>not joking
Then you're an idiot.

>>79600228
elaborate
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>>79600228
>Salaf
I use a word I don't know but to look cool.
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>>79598450

Daesh thrives on drugs that are sent in from Saudi Arabia. If we intercepted some and replaced them with a slow-acting poison we could probably kill a lot of them
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>>79598450
Well unlike Al Qaeda associated movements, ISIS' legitimacy relies on holding ground.

No territory= no legitimacy
No legitimacy = no followers
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>>79600102
You're a fucking idiot if you think this is an actual solution.
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>>79600287

>Then you're an idiot

And you're a faggot cuck. How is the whole "winning hearts and minds" thing working out?
War is war.
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>>79598450

By destroying Islam.
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>Daesh
Who? You mean the ISLAMIC State of Iraq and the Levant? Does the use of ISLAMIC in a negative context trigger you? That's unfortunate, but the ISLAMIC State of Iraq and the Levant is most definitely ISLAMIC.
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>>79600201
>In Iraq you get killed simply for having a Sunni name (that Shia hate the most).
t. al jazeera / al arabiya

Though desu it's true that soon we will have same level shit going on here. Should have allowed Assad to keep his gas desu.
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>>79600162
I can't believe you don't know the history of your country.
You are not really Japanese?
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>>79600389
It's a perfect solution.
>ban Islam on pain of death
>Muslims ignore ban because of course they will
>execute Muslims
>leftists can't cry about "genocide" because they had the opportunity to join civilisation and refused
All the benefits of killing them outright, with better PR
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>>79599971
Holy shit. An actually reasonable alternative on pol.
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>>79598450
fuck em all to death
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>>79600588
t. Ahmed -Ibn Al Clockmed- Mohamed
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>>79600540
Yeah, who gives a fuck about the MILLIONS of individuals who practice Islam peacefully right?
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>>79600389
Of course not but if push comes to shove its either this or nothing because lets be real for a moment if you think there is an solution yeah you are a bigger idiot. As long as islam exist there will always be another "isis" as simple as that.
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>>79598450
At least it seems to be radical Islam's final form, if they were defeated and a group that was more extreme came into existence I would really be surprised.
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>>79600588
>removing assad
>reasonable
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Why stop them? Just kick all muslims from europe and let them do whatever they want in ME.
>inb4 can't just move millions of people from europe - see holocaust
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>>79600658
>>79600673
>>79600540
naw i say we round em all up, put down their pants and fuck em to death
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>>79600630
the satanic christians ?
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>>79599589
lol, dead winners?

did you know about Russians burying terrorists inside of pig carcasses?
>no heaven, lol
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>>79600658
Yeah think about the 6 million of the 1,2 billion who are peaceful!
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>>79598831
So you'd kill innocent villagers who are under Russia and Assad's protection.

Also it has little to do with the village, the village itself is irrelevant, rather the geographical area.
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Hit them harder
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>>79598450
ISIS are just regular muslims with the illusion of power. this is what happens any time you give a muslim power, or they think they have it.

islam calls for its followers to rule the world, and makes no distinction between forced conversion and natural conversion, thus they're violent monkeys.
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>>79599015
No Daesh doesn't mean ISIS you ignoramus, it's a nicname given to ISIS by the MUSLIMS fighting and killing ISIS. It means rabid dog
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>>79598450
>Daesh
First you stop using shitspeak.
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>>79600658
Practice islam peacefully
>practice rape peacefully
>practice pedophilia peacefully

So I'm not allowed to be a peaceful racist, but they can be peaceful islamists? Fuck that
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>>79600517
That's your epic argument?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/rise-of-isis/

>>79600748
Removing Al Assad is the first step to get refugees back to Syria.

The actual plan of Assad is displacing all the opposition out of Syria so he can win an election with democracy soon. And he will do mark my words.

If he did, there's no comeback for refugees forever...
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>>79600908
Are we supposed to pity them?
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>>79600908
its like you are placng th world probems i a single group, you are delusional as fuck and hypocrite
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>>79600908

Guess we'll just have to reheat the ovens then, huh?
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WHO EVER WANTS TO TAKE OUT ASSAD IS EITHER A BRAIN WASHED MORON OR A KIKE SHILLING FOR PISSRAEL
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i wonder if reforming islam will work anytime soon or in the next thousand years i worked for Christianity..
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>>79600908
>morocco
how many hands do you still have?
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>>79600340
Salafaggot detected. The Shia of Ali will even sweep the Moors.

Alouites are Sayyid bend the knee.
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>>79600908
An intelligent dentist fluent in english, etc. vs a bunch of dirty rapists

HMMMMM, who should we support??
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>>79601094
lol at christ fag , get out fanatic
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>>79598450
Of course, but they will not be defeated because they're useful for those who want to impose social control.
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>>79600658
I'll give a fuck when you give me a reliable way to tell them apart. The safety of my own people comes first.
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>>79600889
It's an acronym
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>>79600658
Certainly not me.
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>>79598450
the russians and the western allies defeated Germany. A huge country with a much stronger, purer and better organized ideology called National Socialism. A whole country with an extremely powerful army, navy and airforce. Daesh is a fucking joke. The problem are all the rebel forces in Syria, they have to vaporize them all and let Assad make Syria a save country again. After that they have to think about a new leader, also slow steps to democracy.

also nuke saudi arabia
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>>79601228
>>79601228
In Sweden we've solved this problem by giving out bracelets saying 'dont rape me' so that muslims can see which girls do/dont to be raped
We could give them bracelets saying 'bacefull muzlim'/'crazy islamist' to tell them apart?
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>>79601368
If 80% of these refugees can't read in their OWN language, why did your government think this was a good idea?
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>>79598450

Build wall, ban Islam, ban circumcision ... problem solved.
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>>79601021
>Are we supposed to pity them?
Yes, if you would let me fuck your wife...

>>79601029
What group?
If you mean Al Assad? I think you are just like most of /pol/ don't know that Syria became that shit by protesting peacefully to get take down Al Assad, but he decided to fight back starting by sniping protesters... and years after Daesh happened...

>>79601032
>Insulting your (((masters)))

>>79601194
You aren't only talented in cuckoldness, not on being funny, stop trying please.
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>>79601354
Isis brings america , russia, france and soo many other countrys to ME , I think the joke here is you spanish scum
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>>79598450
we really cant france

it has been too late since 2004

if burgers didnt fuck up with handling terrorists in a "humane way" we wouldnt have this problem

we should have just executed every islamic terrorist on the spot instead of sending to guantanamo
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>>79601592
>Dude america created these groups when they spent 10 years in Afheganistan being cucked by small groups of rebels and terrorists.
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>>79601592

>Morocco thinks anybody will miss him when he is glass

xd fase
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>>79601592
No, you listen, friend
We don't care about any of you
We simply don't want you here if you can't behave
Some of you are civilised and I respect that
But if you can't see that a big part of muslim world is hundreds of years behind in development, then we have nothing to talk about
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>>79601833
The Western-Sahara is more advanced and cultured that morocco and their roach inhabitants.
You're right. Glass the fuckers.
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>>79601761

first you need to execute all americans first, part of world probs will be fixed just by that
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>>79601620
of course there isn't much progress, but only because there are so many powers and countries defending their interests in the region. ISIS is taking advantage of that. but again, compared to the germans back in the old days they ARE a fucking joke and if all forces would actually be against them they wouldn't survive a week.
and I'm not spanish
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>>79601976
>t.b Shlomo "from" the Netherlands
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>1
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>>79601764
It doesn't matter who created it... American created a lot of chaos in the last decades that affected Europe the most...

This now is affecting Europe and Middle East... they both should resolve it.

Anyway, lately shit will get only worst for both EU and ME. Until US fall and some other power rise... hopefully China will do better (do nothing).

>>79601941
Don't you have to be getting cucked somewhere or something?

>>79601976
It isn't. But if Saharan people wanted to have their own county I have no problem with it. The people should choose their destiny.

>>79601833
You try to be funny and you fail every time.

I guess you are only good at eating burgers.
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>>79602035
I'll take a million amerifats over one single muslim. nice try, abdullah
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>>79598450
by taking away its funding
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>>79602138

If you think isis is the only one defending a type of agenda then you are serious out of touch .

till isis vanish yo gonna see more spanish people getting rekt by bomb like in 2004 in spain homeland, our you have short memory?
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>>79602253

We need to create more chaos in the form of nuclear missiles raining down on everything Muslim.

The best resolution, and nobody will miss any of you. Stop acting like we owe you anything bud, nobody cares about dead slimes.
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>>79602035
portugese are the true root of isis

we need to remove u and put hues in your place
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>>79602278
i don care i hate humans
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>>79602430
>If you think isis is the only one defending a type of agenda then you are serious out of touch .

this is why I wrote in this post:
>>79601354
>The problem are all the rebel forces in Syria, they have to vaporize them all and let Assad make Syria a save country again

this of course is meant for all radical muslim groups, not only rebels in syria. the countries of this world must stop using them for their interests, they have to stop all fundings to any radical group on this planet. history tells us that this has always led to more and more trouble and suffering. but I know this is very unlikely to happen
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>>79602444
haha america

>10 years in afeghnistan rekt by small terrorit groups
>more 10 years in Iraq to give it to islamic state
>attacked in homeland by hijacket planes

you people are delusional , your nation is made of shit
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>>79602436
Thanks God your people are literary killing themselves, literary stopped producing, literary calling others to fuck their women, literary 8% of their kids aren't biologically theirs and raised them unknowingly, literary putting wigs on their heads asking to be called Sonya and fucking each others in the ass.

You guys literary killing yourselves, on a massive scale.
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>>79598450

With progress.

Not ''''''''''progress'''''''''' as portrayed and pressed by the sjw leftist libshit whatnots, but actual social progress.
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>>79598450

Simple: just cut off their funding.

Unfortunately they are funded by Suadi Arabia aka America's best bum bud lmao so they are not going anywhere anytime soon as they are every governments dream come true: an insane external threat.
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>>79602533
then you should probably begin with yourself and commit suicide
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>>79602891
>>79602891
why? I love the universe, you are the parasites you need to remove yourselfs, the aliens are begging
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>>79602995
>>79603050
>you are the parasites you need to remove yourselfs, the aliens are begging
>I'm not the problem, everyone else is
I think I understand now
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>>79603205

Maybe im a hybrid...
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>>79598450
By killing everything
No Man no Problem
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>>79599971
MUH KURDS

MY NEW SYRIA

MUH SHIAS (see:filthy majoos)

lel cry harder niggerfaggot
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>>79603287
no, you need a therapist
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>>79598450
Why are they so white? Almost makes me want to join them
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>>79598450
>How do you defeat an idea?
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>>79603384
I won't insult you since I like Tunisian qts.

This shouldn't encourage you to be more of a west's dog tho...
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>>79598450
Build two statues of your dick.
Place one about a mile west of the Mecca, the other about a mile south.

Now, whenever muslims face mecca to pray, they are praying to your dick instead.
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>>79598450
Cobalt-60 should do it.
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>>79603463
this was the most satisfying moment in the whole series for me, right after geoffrey's death. religious fanatics getting blown to bits in their own temple. even though I hate the bitch that did it
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>>79603578
The Faith Militant literally did nothing wrong.
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>>79603453
No ?how can you be soo sure of that ?
So now believing in aliens gives you a free ticket to the therapist?

no wonder you spanish people got reck in 2004


and what are you doing in this board little fish ?
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They know they are losing that's why they have gone overtime with the bombings lately. One last hurrah before they die
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>>79603384
based heir of carthage
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>>79603708
alright last time I'll argue with you. Again, I'm not spanish. and I said you need to go to see a therapist because you hate everyone surrounding you and obviously have mental problems and everyone is responsible for them but yourself.
not because you believe in extraterrestrial live, I'm pretty sure we're not alone, maybe they're already here.
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>>79604010
no , no... dont put words in my sentence , when said I hate humans it goes a side with you saying that you hate shitskins..
Or you gonna say you nver said it before ?

Yes I hate humans because they pose a threat to my existence and others .
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>>79602782

>literary
>literary
>literary

I don't think you are literate.

Also, I'm not white, my people are breeding like fuck and they will always stand juxtaposed to Islamist fucks in defense of Western values and people, including whites.
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>>79604555
>>literary
>>literary
>>literary
Not getting it...

>Also, I'm not white, my people are breeding like fuck and they will always stand juxtaposed to Islamist fucks in defense of Western values and people, including whites.
Thanks for cucking whitties.
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>>79598450
>Daesh
Why not just call it Not Islam like the liberals desperately want?
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>>79604665

>Not getting it...

Didn't think you would.

>Thanks for cucking whitties.

I don't, though. You'd be amazed the amount of vocal power I have as a minority when I red-pill people daily and encourage them to love their ancestry, their history, and to be aware of the dangers of Islam and its repeated attempts to break into Europe.

I get many thanks for opening peoples eyes to information they'd otherwise disregard if not provided from an outside perspective.
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>>79604010
anyway life is shit many times sorry bro good luck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVN14lf8yTc
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>>79604887
>Didn't think you would.
You are the one not getting it kid...

I didn't read the rest tho... seemed like hur dur to me.
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>>79598450
You can defeat an idea by killing everyone who holds that idea
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>>79599997
I like the way you think. This would work.
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>>79598450

Nuke Mecca and the rest of middle east. Let them make the last stand. Make sure American Jews don't supply them anything and we can easily win.
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>>79605504

>You are the one not getting it kid...

LITERARY

Kos amk you fucking dunecoon.
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>>79600287
>>79600340
Modern jihad can all be traced back to the Wahhabi school salafism that the Saudi government needs to support in order to stay in power.

Salafists view the first three generations of Muslims as closest to God and they should be emulated. This is naked idolatry. No human can know God's will and theres no reason to think his plan for them is the same as his plan for us.

Install a new ruler of Arabia who will popularize anti-Salafi interpretation of Islam and the global jihad will subside.
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The only way to stop them is a worldwide genocide of all brown """"people."""" ISIS is a criminal threat, not a military threat. Protect people within your borders with intelligence and police. Let ISIS do whatever the fuck they want in the Middle East. Let Saudi Arabia and Iran and other major players in the region deal with it. If they can't put aside their hatred of each other to work together then there is literally no reason for an outside party to step in.
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>>79598670
>destroy the Mind Control Cube in Mecca
>suddenly Islam disappears
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>>79598450
An idea is defeated when it lacks utility. So when people get no pleasure or purpose for identifying with ISIS, it dies.

May not be the answer you are looking for, but it's the real one.
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>>79606093
Safafism is older that Wahhabism and had nothing to do with it, unless your source of information is Wikipedia...

Saudi Arabia is trying to justify their ruling with Sunnism all together not only Wahhabism, but they started to feel lately with the easier access to information.

We can't actually take down any gov for now when the West/Russia intervening (Syria) on every protest to take down the rulers with try, and promoting coup d'états again the government they don't like (Egypt).

Syria today in every Arab country is the example, "you want to live on safety and oppression, or you want to be like Syria"...

Also don't forget that US made a deal with the Saudi royals in the last century to guard their crown in exchange to sell them oil and never ban them from that, and to accept only dollar for it.

Anyway, hope China's leadership of the world would be better. We may had better chances then...
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>>79606597

You deserve no chances and China will handle you fucks with even more ferocity than we ever have.
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>Daesh
You mean ISIS, you jew nosed fuck.
Stop playing their games.
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>>79607028
Are all cucks get easily mad like you or only you?

>>79607334
ISIS is their official name...

Daesh is a name they punish people who call them by that. And it was popular in the Arab world that it become a synonym to "dude" at some point.
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>>79607409
Seriously though, all of China's neighbors hate China for a reason. The Chinese are infamous for their inability to get along with strangers.

World's one big suck, going forward.
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>>79607409

>Muslims call people cucks
>They literally get cucked by every nation in the world and cry like bitches about how powerless they are

lmao

enjoy flames of cleansing fire, Achmed you fucking pussy
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>>79598450
only with genocide.
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>>79600658
So what you're saying is, we need an American Hitler to get us started on the path.

Would you name a Holocaust after the perpetrator or the persecuted party?
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>>79607539
They hate it for political clashes...
It's nothing compared to actually invading and dropping bombs...
Every country is pragmatic, but China focus the most only in economy... they don't care for chapping the rest of the world's ideology...
Anyway, only the future will show us.

>>79607584
>Calls me cuck ironically
>While he is a cuck literally
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>>79609098
>It's nothing compared to actually invading and dropping bombs...

China is farther away from Morocco, this is true. But don't fool yourself that any Empire can resist the temptation of violence. China right now wants to outright invade Taiwan, and would do so if it could get away with it.

>Mah rightful clay.

That isn't the point. The Grass is always greener....
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>>79598450
>if you kill your enemy, they win

he was right
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>>79598450
By being tolerant and letting your daughters date Muslim men

#solidarity
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>>79607615
For germanics
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In my experience, the only difference in fighting DAESH and other Islamic Fundamentalists is this: DAESH fighters truly look down the barrel of your weapon and see paradise, they're fanatical to the last and only becoming more and more extreme.

Given enough time they'll factionalise further and destroy themselves.
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Decent joint ground and air operations would be enough, but USA just can't stop funding those cells.
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>>79609860
Are you a real Qatari or just a Paki trying to earn his passport back?
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>>79610210
Real Qatari. Educated in Britain, Attended RMAS in '07.
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>>79598450
A wise man once said that he would bomb the shit out of ISIS.
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>>79610259
Oh cool. Doha is a nice city, but damn you have a lot of desert in that country.
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>>79610400
It's alright. Only come here from Ramadan + Eid these days. London feels more like home.
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>>79598450
Nazism was defeated
so will isis
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>Nuke Middle East
>Execute Muslims
>Salt the earth of the Middle East
>Desecrate Mecca and destroy it
no more Mudslimes
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>>79600777

He's just parroting the words of his great leader, t. Rudeau.
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>>79599971
>Give Sunnis equal rights with Shia in Iraq

Those poor sunnis who let ISIS into their city and their young boys fighting for them. All those former baathi shits that are now fighting for them, what a shame they have been mistreated by the shia. Ohh my heart bleeds for them. How come you don't see the Shias in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain do the same shit as the Sunnis in Iraq when they are equally, if not more, opressed? Sunnis are shit-tier Muslims
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>>79600189

Nuking Mecca sound great for anyone here, but in reality glassing a whole city in todays political climate would be nearly impossible and unforgivable.
The civilized non-islamic states would be better off carrying out (proxy) assassinations on prominent extreme Islamic leaders. Islam is a religion of sheep and any religious muslim figurehead who conducts themselves like Ayatollah Khomeini should be removed and replaced with someone who's in touch with modern civilization.
Only then will the bulk of extremist islam die out.
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You need a bigger idea to defeat an idea

We should just have a bunch of fedoras debate them 24/7 to spread atheist subversion
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>>79598450

With number one power.
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The Islamic State can't be killed off unless you want to kill all muslims
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>>79611845
Islamism can never truly die, but the Islamic State can fall and wither away. As of now, this is what the future holds.
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>>79598450
>how do you defeat an idea
by killing all the believers
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>>79598450
Easy.

Telepath kill agent, read everyone mind in he world at once. Fry the brainstem of anyone who supports ISIS instantly

Boom. Job done
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>>79600201
>Soon or later, Europe will become chaos, and by Europeans. Remember me.

>Everywhere Islam travels, chaos follows
t. Religion of Peace
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