that was leaked by the Polish government a few days ago.
I can't find anything that is wrong with it. It talks about more military and security cooperation, the priority to protect the EU external borders, to make sure migrants from Africa stay home rather than come to the EU, about more cooperation in investments and to foster growth and jobs, and an EU function to bolster investments in those EU countries hardest hit by economic crisis in the last years.
What is bad about that?
http://www.godmode-trader.de/artikel/geheimdokument-europaeischer-superstaat-nimmt-form-an,4750665
P.S. if you click on the link and scroll down you come to the document. The funny thing is, it is in English!!
>"What is bad about Germany making the 4th Reich happen ? "
>>79593409
the problem wasnt germany being awesome it was them invading europe. now if europe wants to side with them then have fucking at it.
>>79593409
Stop this meme, Israeli. It is not the 4th Reich, it is a European superstate of 450 million inhabitants.
Israel may join, by the way. We always said that.
>>79593549
isreal will never join as it would allow to many non jews into their country.
>>79592563
>to make sure migrants from Africa stay home rather than come to the EU
That would be fantastic except that its a lie. The EU and its supporters are hellbent of making the continent 'diverse'
Everyone with a 2-digits IQ finds this idea exciting and interesting.
Fugg off Mehmet.
>>79593642
>Israel may join
The entire point of Israel is to be a pure ethnostate and the point of the zionist created EU is to be a mixed race society.
How exactly are you seeing Israel joining the EU a possibility?
>>79592563
>I can't find anything that is wrong with it.
>Superstate
Found the problem.
>>79593642
oops sry meant to quote the kraut
>>79593671
>That would be fantastic except that its a lie.
Why should they lie in a secret policy paper?
>>79592563
FTFY
>>79592563
Why would anyone think its a good idea to give more power and authority to an union which already acts undemocratic?
>>79593855
>le zionist behind everything meme
Sure, Ty-Rone.
>>79593855
>How exactly are you seeing Israel joining the EU a possibility?
If you go to Tel Aviv, you will see how many young pro-EU Israelis there are.
80% of Arab Israelis want to join the EU and quite a lot of socialist lefty Israelis want that too. They do not mind to open Israel up for European migration - both ways.
>>79594023
>Europe should stay open to what migration and mobility can contribute to our societies in the fields of economy, culture and diversity
>>79592563
It's great if all the benefits and costs are spread out evenly. At the moment you have poor neighborhoods being crowded out with immigration they don't want, while people in rich neighborhoods get to buy cottages in Spain. When the poor say fuck it, this sux, everyone decides they're idiots. The good thing is though, if the EU has closer cooperation, you can get rid of referendums altogether, and just send in the EU army if anyone doesn't like it. Sign up!
>>79592563
>The funny thing is, it is in English!!
that's not funny kartoffel, english is the official EU language
>>79592563
>make sure migrants from Africa stay home rather than come to the EU
The borders are not being enforced, you got waves of shit skins washing up in Italy and Greece, Mutte Merkel actually invited them.
>>79594071
>Why would anyone think its a good idea to give more power and authority to an union which already acts undemocratic?
What is undemocratic about the EU?
All decisions have to be signed off by the elected EU parliament, the elected members of the EU Council and the EU Commission, which gets elected by the EU parliament and appointed by the elected governments of the EU states?
>>79592563
oh look, a german wanting all of Europe under his command. At this rate we need to patch relations with the russians and begin more Dresden.
>>79594097
>>79594097
Young Israelis are cocksuckers Faggots. Where do you even get these affirmations/statistics ?
Inch'allah, the EU will collapse soon.
>>79594169
Yes, just like Australia, don't you think that is right? Did you read the rest?
what the paper contains:
>a gorillion of nice sounding buzzwords without any concrete definition
>more gibsmedat
>more power to brussels
>less power to the national governments
tl;dr it's a MASSIVE power grab by brussels, only liked by filthy socialist cucks who cream their pants over the thought of having a huge central government fuck them over
>>79594196
The official EU working languages are German, French and English.
>>79593409
Fpbp
>>79593549
There is a higher chance of Israel becoming the 51st US state than ever joining the EU. Israel was created as a safe haven for Jewish people first and foremost. Joining a nation which would tear down Israel's walls and allow millions of Arabs to settle there because of "muh refugees!" would be antithetical to the founding purpose of the Israeli state.
>>79594097
>80% of Arab Israelis and socialist lefty ones do too
So you're saying that all the people who hate Israel want to join a union that would destroy Israel? No way. I wonder why that could be...
>>79593549
So, Ukraine can't join and Israel is always welcome?
>>79594631
You had a holodomor, not a holocaust. Learn the difference.
There's also the fact that Ukrainians are just Russians in denial and I don't think the West wants any of those.
>>79594602
>So you're saying that all the people who hate Israel want to join a union that would destroy Israel? No way. I wonder why that could be...
I assume you have never been to Israel, have you?
>>79594631
>So, Ukraine can't join and Israel is always welcome?
I want a united Europe for all Europeans. Ukraine is more than welcome to join. Ukraine is a beautiful country.
>>79594631
ukraine has no chance of ever joining until the EU becomes an actual state itself and ramps up its military significantly.
I agree that most of it sounds harmless and sensible enough. However:
>As a first step, the Dublin system has to be improved to deal with exceptional circumstances by means of a permanent and binding mechanism which foresees burden sharing among all member states.
They still want obligatory migrant quotas. That's an absolutely awful decision. Some countries don't want refugees, and they should not be forced to take any. And most refugees don't want to go to some countries, so how is the relocation scheme even supposed to work? Let's assume a bunch of refugees got relocated into Poland against their will. When they leave the refugee center with the intention of using Schengen zone's free movement so they could travel into Germany, how is Poland supposed to stop them? Should they be allowed to use force to prevent them from crossing the border, or should they keep them jailed so that they'll never even reach that border in the first place?
If EU still wants to go with forced migrant relocations, it's a sign that they haven't learned anything, and they'll continue fucking things up. You really don't want to give more power to an institution like that.
Also, the document mentions that their aim is the "irreversibility of the euro". They are clearly trying to use these self-inflicted crises as a justification to grab more and more power and control to themselves at the expense of the sovereignty of the European nations, and they're trying to create a situation where no country will be able to turn away from EU anymore.
>>79594764
I'm both offended and amused by that statement
>>79594260
>What is undemocratic about the EU?
What is not undemocratic about EU?
Some guys, who were elected by some other guy elect some guys who will elect things. A lot of election, sure, but by the people chosen by those already in power. That is not democracy.
>>79594880
>but by the people
but not by the common people
>>79594880
>Some guys, who were elected by some other guy elect some guys who will elect things.
Ok, can you be more specific?
1. EU Parliament - directly elected by the people in each state.
2. EU Council - directly elected governments in each state.
3. EU Commission - same as British PM, elected by the EU Parliament.
NO law gets to be law unless 1. and 2. agree with super majorities.
What's undemocratic about that?
>>79594880
>>79594927
ask your average burger about the 17th amendment.
>>79594631
Fuck off I vote AGAINST
>>79594852
How can facts be offensive? Ukraine literally translates to "frontier", which it was until Russia formally annexed it.
>>79594631
You're more than welcome to join, brother.
>>79594631
probably you would already if it wasnt for that thing with Crimea
imagine the... problems you would have if the European Republic demanded Crimea back...
At least not until you settle down the problem I guess
>>79592563
I want to preserve my race, culture, language, political sovereignty, and my peoples future, but sure willingly get exterminated by the Roman Empire.
>>79592563
Can you please, please, please kick us out first and then go make your fucking shithole of a supercuck state?
Thanks and fuck you.
>>79595075
You say west doesn't want russians. My fee-fees are hurt.
>>79595209
>Can you please, please, please kick us out first and then go make your fucking shithole of a supercuck state?
It is the decision of the Greek people to leave. It always has been. You just need 50%+1 vote of the Greek people - either in parliament or in a referendum. You can leave any time you want.
>>79593409
>OY VEY! ITS THE SHOAH 2: ELECTROCUTED BY THE EU BOOGALOO!
On a serious note the idea of Germ- I mean the EU needing army because of border problems was caused by Germany in the first place.
STOP
GIVING
THEM
FREE
SHIT
This is not a hard concept.
>>79595258
we have our fill of non whites.
>>79595258
russia is the only controlled opposition they have left without doing another revolution in a country.
>>79592563
>What is bad about that?
Your going to get cucked harder Hans.
>>79595258
You don't need to join the West to be as wealthy as the West. Just tell Putin to get your stability up to 3, acquire 100 admin points, and change the capital to St. Petersburg.
>>79592563
>leaked by the Polish government
Subhuman slav scum traitors.
>>79595209
That would require people from your lazy hoe ass country to actually do something like walking to polling station - which would never happen
>>79593409
shoa 2.0: this time for white people?
>>79595258
>You say west doesn't want russians. My fee-fees are hurt.
Actually, Russia can join too.
>>79595291
We always fucking decided against you! You told us if we voted NO it's out of the fuckin' Euro for us. When did go and shoved a NO up your asses and now we expect you for once, to honor your worthless words and kick us out.
>It always has been
That's why you didn't let us do that first referendum on 2012 and instead imposed a dictator on us, right?
Stupid fucking nazis, thinking they're actually the good guys here.
>>79595447
>destroys Europe twice
>tries for a third time
>Slavs say "fuck you"
>blames Slavs for being traitors
When are we going to fix the Kraut problem once and for all? Let's be honest here. There should never be a unified German state. It must be split into like 6 pieces.
>>79595447
>Subhuman slav scum traitors.
implying we didn't want the Poles to leak the paper. Hans, get real.
>>79595485
>)
Please do this.
>>79595447
Suck on this Herman :D
>>79595532
>It must be split into like 6 pieces.
Like your mom's clunge at last night's #BLACKED Party :^)
>>79595116
Japs demand their islands we took after ww2 every time there's a political talk. Don't even have a ww2 peace treaty with them yet. Nobody cares, we're used to it.
>Gib clay back
>No fuck off
>Now about real business
Zero hostility there
>>79595525
>We always fucking decided against you! You told us if we voted NO it's out of the fuckin' Euro for us. When did go and shoved a NO up your asses and now we expect you for once, to honor your worthless words and kick us out.
Germany was the only EU state who said the GReek people should leave if they voted against the reform package. What can we do if Tsipras then screws you guys?
>>79595589
>Suck on this Herman :D
I might if you're cute :^)
>>79594988
EU parliament is a joke. zero accountability, their debates are absolutely useless. hell, more than half of the continent wouldn't even understand what these clowns debate even if they wanted to listen, because they dont understand the fucking language.
EU parliament is so far removed from the people it claims to represent, it is a disgrace. all they do is act as yes-men to junkhead. hell they can't even initiate legislation by themselves.
and, the biggest problem with it: it doesn't act in the interest of the citizens at all.
it acts under the assumption that there is some atrificial "european" citizen to represent, but there isn't. there are no 'europeans', there are only frenchmen, englishmen, irishmen, germans, poles, slovaks, danes, etc.
the EU parliament doesnt have representative legitimacy because ~90% of it are fucking foreigners who do not have the interest of my people in mind. i have ZERO interest in being ruled by a parliament where my people are outnumbered 9 to 1 by a bunch of romanians, spaniards and swedes.
>>79595626
Oh fuck, it's you again. Why do we always have to end up in the same thread...
> German defending the EU superstate when Germany is the only country directly prospering from the EU.
Fuck off Hans.
>>79595701
Herro :^)
>>79592563
>I can't find anything that is wrong with it
said her (pic related)
>>79594988
EU Parliament, most of the people elected are unknown to the public.
EU Council, people already in power elected in each country.
EU Commission, people approved by the aforementioned.
In short, more people put in a position of power by others in power who want them there.
>>79595727
Go away, stop gaying me up.
>>79595784
>stop gaying me up.
Is it working? .^)
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V3teCLS.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>79595598
>Like your mom's clunge at last night's #BLACKED Party :^)
My family's not German... and we already are part-eggplant.
>mfw Germans look like us in 30 years
>US, UK, and Russia will have to put Germany down again
I wish it didn't have to come to this
>>79595764
>EU Parliament, most of the people elected are unknown to the public.
Then why do people elect them? If people want other people, they should vote for other people.
>EU Council, people already in power elected in each country.
Yes, it is the people who are elected in each state which go to the EU Council. What is undemocratic about Tsipras and Merkel to make decisions in the EU Council?
>EU Commission, people approved by the aforementioned.
No, approved by the EU Parliament.
>>79595764
next is this desu
>>79595833
>mfw Germans look like us in 30 years
Morbidly obese and glued to a mobility scooter? :^)
>>79593409
>4th reich ?
i wish it was true
>>79595623
When we get rid of this sorry bitch of a faggot, and kick him out together with Mitsotakis, we're walking out and we will not honor any of the agreements the previous traitorous governments made with you. It's going to happen. See what you're gonna do then.
>>79595810
No. Well, maybe a little.
>>79595402
>Just tell Putin to get your stability up to 3
Every time he does that another comet appears
>>79592563
>to make sure migrants from Africa stay home
This is where you are wrong. By "protect" they mean more and more patrol to catch the migrants the earlier they can so they can "save" them and disembark them in Italia/Greece.
Why do you think the migrants once used an inflatable swimming pool to cross from Libya to Malta? If it goes to the international waters, they have 99% chances of going to Europe. Nothing more is needed anymore.
>>79595938
To eternal German/Subhuman-slav-traitor-scum friendship! :^)
The only good thing that would come from an eye superstate is the inevitable team up of old allies to once again put down an expansionist reich centered around Germany.
>>79595656
>EU parliament is a joke. zero accountability, their debates are absolutely useless. hell, more than half of the continent wouldn't even understand what these clowns debate even if they wanted to listen, because they dont understand the fucking language.
I am for having everyone speak English in the EU Parliament.
>EU parliament is so far removed from the people it claims to represent, it is a disgrace. all they do is act as yes-men to junkhead. hell they can't even initiate legislation by themselves.
Then let's vote people in on a district basis like in the US, no? Then every citizen has exactly 1 EU MEP who represents him. If that MEP doesn't do well for its constitutency, then the people will not elect him again.
>and, the biggest problem with it: it doesn't act in the interest of the citizens at all.
Ok, then let's vote for other people no?
>it acts under the assumption that there is some atrificial "european" citizen to represent, but there isn't. there are no 'europeans', there are only frenchmen, englishmen, irishmen, germans, poles, slovaks, danes, etc.
Says who? I am a proud European. You nationalists are the minority in Europe among young Europeans.
>the EU parliament doesnt have representative legitimacy because ~90% of it are fucking foreigners who do not have the interest of my people in mind. i have ZERO interest in being ruled by a parliament where my people are outnumbered 9 to 1 by a bunch of romanians, spaniards and swedes.
But you are in a minority, the majority of Europeans still want Europe.
>>79595116
We are fed with this integration meme from EU for 20 years, now we should be proud because we are honorary nonmember with free trade (according to EU free trade is when we have trade quotas, and EU not) and have no say in EU politic. If they really like the idea there was no any problem to invite Ukraine in among with Bolgaria and Romania. We are no more shithole than these nice and rich european countries.
>>79595992
>inevitable team up of old allies to
Seeing how well you guys did in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq, I'm not too worried.
Triggered? :^)
>>79592563
>make sure migrants from Africa stay home rather than come to the EU
Create the problem and provide a solution. And at the mere cost of any sort of democratic accountability in your now centralized unelected governing body.
>>79592563
Nothing, and it's a draft if anything. Pol is literally a cesspool of imbeciles who are afraid of everything, esp. things tgey cannot grasp with their tiny >white brains.
>>79596028
>according to EU free trade is when we have trade quotas, and EU not
There is literally nothing wrong with this. In fact, it gave me an erection.
Boners don't lie :^)
>>79595920
>we're walking out and we will not honor any of the agreements the previous traitorous governments made with you.
Good, that is exactly what we proposed last year and Tsipras turned our proposal down. Walk out, exit the EU and reform your country with your own currency. It is what you want, it is what we want.
>>79596028
>We are no more shithole than these nice and rich european countries.
You're too big UA. Can't just let 45kk people in. Bulgaria is what, 10kk? Now if you split...
>>79595842
>Then why do people elect them?
When i have you choose between a turd of unknown ingredients and another turd of unknown ingredients, then what are you going to choose?
>What is undemocratic about Tsipras and Merkel to make decisions in the EU Council?
I hope you are trolling.
>No, approved by the EU Parliament.
The leadership is decided by the council.
>>79596028
Ukraine needs to wörk wörk wörk for a change and make peace with Russia, then we can consider letting you into our EU super-state.
But currently you don't wörk wörk wörk and you are bitching about Russia all the time.
GEt your act together and we let you in.
>>79596028
But they should not be in either. Now we can't even kick Gypsies back.
>>79595842
>Then why do people elect them?
they mostly dont. EU parliament election turnout is consistently terrible across the union.
look, the point is this:
my people get to vote for ~10% of the parliament seats. the other 90% my people NEVER get to vote for. they are completely out of our control.
for smaller countries, it is even worse. they are effectively ruled by a foreign parliament, 98% of the seats in that parliament they never get to vote for, ever.
i have zero interest in greeks, frenchmen, italians and finns having any say in what i have to do or not. zero. and they dont have any interest in germans telling them what to do either.
that's our fucking problem with the EU - we do not want the peoples of europe to meddle in each others affairs and try to tell each other what to do, we want them to leave each other the fuck alone, so that ever country can do what it thinks is best. that's all there is to it.
>>79592563
Have you krauts ever heard of subsidiarity?
Never ever give some super entity any power that can be assumed by a smaller entity.
>>79596273
>But currently you don't wörk wörk wörk and you are bitching about Russia all the time.
They're just like Croatia.
"Oh noez, a Serb tickled my mom's pussy without consent 20 years ago! This means I can't work and totally deserve neetbux!"
>>79596233
>When i have you choose between a turd of unknown ingredients and another turd of unknown ingredients, then what are you going to choose?
Create your own party and put known people up for EU election?
>>79596233
>The leadership is decided by the council.
So? The Council is the most democratic institution - it consists of the governments of the EU states.
>>79596273
Do you seriously think this uprising was not made up in Moscauw? Locals just wanted to live in peace and didn't gave two shit about being in a country or another, and then a hundred of people appear and shoot at the army.
>>79596366
>>79596336
Why can't germans juts accept the fact they have to send 1000 euro to every ukranian montly forever for voting pro-EU? why are you so evil?
>>79596233
>When i have you choose between a turd of unknown ingredients and another turd of unknown ingredients, then what are you going to choose?
If you'll offer a German TWO turds, he'll just think he died and went to heaven.
Honestly, do you know nothing about us?
>>79596345
>Never ever give some super entity any power that can be assumed by a smaller entity.
Yes, but we all know security, borders, asylum, economic problems, investments, bailouts, armed conflicts etc. are all better handled together and not on a state level. The whole migrant crisis happened because Greece started shuttling migrants from the tourist islands to the mainland - as a result 1 million migrants came to the tourist islands, because they knew they would be shuttled to the mainland and could go to Sweden or Germany or England. Greece didn't care, but the rest of Europe cared.
>>79593409
But you would benefit from this reich Juden
It's gone all Bernstein and now Jews are exulted in Germoney
>>79596028
your country never stood a chance. EU heads tried to use you as bargaining chips against russua, but since EU heads are incompetent buffoons they fucked up and the whole situation blew up. now they want to bury the whole thing, so they've essentially thrown you to the wolves and wait for you to die.
hope you're enjoying that EU-sponsored majdan uprising, senpai.
>>79596454
>why are you so evil?
This is a pretty mean misconception. History has shown time and again that Germany literally isn't evil.
>>79596377
>So?
So:
>Some guys, who were elected by some other guy elect some guys who will elect things.
>Create your own party and put known people up for EU election?
And if you have cancer, just find a cure man. It's easy as that, and nobody's going to do anything against you man! Like, really, democracy man!
>>79596377
>Create your own party and put known people up for EU election?
This is not how a democracy work, idiot.
If you want your party to make more than 1% you need to be approved by the medias. Guess what will happen if it have the "wrong" opinions?
>>79596522
good thing bundesrepublic isn't Germany.
german shilling for eu
what a surprise
>>79596581
>Guess what will happen if it have the "wrong" opinions?
You can always start spouting populist retarded crap and thus secure the much coveted inbred retard vote, like Ukip and AfD did!
>>79596609
>german shilling for eu
Austrian shilling for the Euro.
What a failure.
>>79592563
>From Germany
>Asking what's wrong with it
>From Germany
>>79593409
Why are you on /pol/ when they're some Palestinians who need oppressing?
>>79596609
Why does it always have to be Germans?
Sometimes I feel like Germany is literally the last nation on the planet that takes democracy seriously.
Seriously, guys, what happened to you? When did you become so jaded?
>>79596644
And the medias try to break them every day of the week. There is a very limited place in the political landscape.
>>79595986
You fucking faggots........I kek'd
>>79594830
I dont get two things
1. what you said, redistribution cant work with open borders because every refugee in bulgaria will run away asap
2. How does the euro solve anything? This makes no sense. One currency doesnt work with 28(27) different fiscal policies. As a matter of fact fixing the bulgarian lev to the euro was a good thing but adopting it while changing almost nothing will spell trouble for us in an unpredicted crisis.
>>79595656
They spent a lot of effort trying to foster this "European identity" like the American identity Americans have.
The problem is Europe isn't the USA. Our countries were never unified. We're a continent of widely different cultures, beliefs, histories and traditions. Merging us into one "European" identity is almost criminal.
>>79594988
>>79596273
No, we don't like the idea to get rid of Ukraine to join your super state by parts. EU is so desperate to try to balkanize us, it's really get me some laughs to see how much progress of Ukraine division you guys have. Instead of civil war in Ukraine you got Britain, and soon Netherlands, out. I bet Russians also got goofed by EU, they probably got a promise all would collapse in a week and EU would intervene from Romania, Hungary and Poland, but nothing happened. Now Russia have failing economy, because they sided with EU "superstate" for once. You such a great ally for everyone!
>>79596885
>reporting on matters objectively = "breaking"
lmao
>>79592563
First thing you all need to do is send the muslims back to the desert.
>>79593883
you forgot to check his flag
>>79596946
There is literally nothing wrong with exploiting and subsequently crushing the hopes and dreams of millions of desperate Ukrainians for personal gain.
>>79592563
>I can't find anything that is wrong with it. It talks about more military and security cooperation,
It's the first step to form Union of European Socialist Republics and i don't want to be in the same country with all those cucked swedes, germans, belgians and french.
>>79596021
>You nationalists are the minority in Europe among young Europeans.
Further proving that the state brainwashing has worked then. Also it's not true in the UK at all.
>the majority of Europeans still want Europe.
Try further integration then, which 85% of Swedes and 70% of the Dutch do not want.
>>79596954
>First thing you all need to do is send the muslims back to the desert.
But then UK and France would lose like 60% of their population.
>>79592563
>make sure migrants from Africa stay home rather than come to the EU
But this is racist and is exactly the rhetoric that was used to shut down anything other than hard left liberal stance.
You better let those fucking Africans in Germany, you owe them.
>>79597067
>Try further integration then,
we will, Europe is integrating more and more every day.
>>79595258
Russia your voice and language is that of angels
I dream of having a Russian wife
>>79594631
Correct, you can't join you ukranese cunt
>>79597068
*4.5%
>>79596946
>you got Britain, and soon Netherlands, out.
We never liked them, they play crap soccer.
>>79596946
>Now Russia have failing economy, because they sided with EU "superstate" for once.
We put sanctions on them, Vladimir.
>>79596946
>You such a great ally for everyone!
Yes, we are.
>>79597249
>*4.5%
That's the teeth brushing rate in Britain.
>>79596912
>The problem is Europe isn't the USA. Our countries were never unified. We're a continent of widely different cultures, beliefs, histories and traditions. Merging us into one "European" identity is almost criminal.
the bigger problem is that these leaders are a bunch of cucks.
today it would be fucking easy to unite europeans under one banner - all you have to do is rally against islam, and all europeans stand side by side. it's the easiest thing in the world - islam is LITERALLY the ancient enemy of europe, who has been trying to conquer europe for over a thousand years.
but no, eu leaders are a bunch of socialist cucks who shy away from any kind of tough job. all they have to offer is empty talk of (((european values))), and no ordinary person wants this garbage.
people are flocking back to their old national identity en masse, mainly because the "europeans" in brussels have proven that they will NOT protect the people against foreign invasion.
>>79597135
Which is why the EU is doomed.
>Nationalist and leftist parties (both anti-EU) keep rising due to EU policy
>the solution is MORE EU POWER
I think some of the Euro federalists might be fucking retarded
What would you have done if the UK had voted remain after being told no new powers were going to Brussels ever again? Just take them anyway? And EU army being announced properly would have made our leave vote 65%+.
>>79597303
>That's the teeth brushing rate in Britain.
It's probably the legit flossing rate.
t. expat brit.
>>79597068
>Germanistan mocking others for having muslims
>>79597166
>Correct, you can't join you ukranese cunt
Stop it, Austria, or we Anschluss you again. We need Lebensraum in the East, Ukraine must join.
>>79596105
Would you be interested in slutting it up via skype ?
>>79597303
>oh n-no f-facts
>better start s-shitposting right g-guys?
>>79597331
Fun fact: Germans brush their teeth but they do not floss.
>>79597338
I don't mock, I help by providing insight.
>>79597362
Dunno, are you cute? Post body :^)
>>79596948
>UKIP is racist and don't like strangers and fuel hate and fear and have no rational arguments
>Objectives
There is no journalism left. Only political activism.
>>79597368
>provide insight
>mocking other countries tries Muslim population
>imports millions and loves it
The only thing you will provide soon is hindsight.
>>79597327
>I think some of the Euro federalists might be fucking retarded
The Younglings want a European superstate and the old ones are dying already. Generation Facebook knows no borders.
After the third world war we might realise that Germany needs to be split into its component parts, occupied and its assets seized.
>>79597417
>why won't journalists provide fuel for my paranoid delusions and conspiracy theories
lmao
>>79596049
Is this the new pasta-lite version?
>>79597437
I do not love it.
>>79597489
Don't think so, but feel free to use it :^)
>>79597368
>Fun fact: Germans brush their teeth but they do not floss.
Disgusting.
>>79592563
read that too, nothing wrong with it and in fact the idea of a glorious european superstate is one of the few things that keep me going trough life at this point
pls show the way
>>79597547
Agreed.
I floss twice a day tho. And I always smell nice :^)
>>79597468
>After the third world war we might realise that Germany needs to be split into its component parts, occupied and its assets seized.
Third time is the charm. This time we'll succeed.
>>79597589
This beautiful Italian god is absolutely right.
>>79597461
>The Younglings want a European superstate
Ah the delusions of a federalist.
64% of young people didn't even vote in our referendum. The young mostly don't give a flying fuck enough to vote on such a key issue. This apathy is repeated across Europe.
>>79597633
>64% of young people didn't even vote in our referendum.
They were kinda busy, what with having a job and stuff.
>>79597589
>glorious european superstate
Yeah, the EU is going to import a billion niggers and it will be glorious right?
>>79597671
Our polling booths are open 7am until 10pm, that's no fucking excuse you retarded kraut. They're simply lazy faggots.
>>79597477
As long as the UK is forced to give welfare to every European citizen who come to live in Britain and as long as Polish wages are lower than British welfare, there is going to be a mass of unemployed/poor Poles to come leech the UK. The last number is 300k per year.
Have you ever read that in the news?
Have you ever been told they hate and fear stranger?
>>79597671
>what with having a job and stuff.
Hahaha good one.
Also the /polls/ were open for like 15 hours and until 10PM.
Lazy fucking bastards.
>>79592563
Because no one wanted this. What was once a simple trade union, built into something people didn't want. The fact that Morality Man has pointed out the EU was started thanks to CIA intervention because they knew Germany would continue to dominate Europe due to its size and position. Instead of going towards the 4th Reich, you have ended up creating the 4th Reich, whether you wanted to or not.
You may suggest an American way of districts, but everyone knows how the US doesn't trust their government one inch, the same thing will eventually happen to the superstate. You are simply too large for the average person to feel like they are actually part of something, to have a voice. If anything, go back to just being a market zone and leave the political shit behind.
>>79597633
>This apathy is repeated across Europe.
Austria had a turnout rate of 85% among voters aged 16 to 24 in the presidential election which is why Hofer lost. 87% of women below the age of 30 voted for the green party shill.
>>79594023
>must find a common answer
>The asylum system is a misleading entry point
>Europe should stay open to [...] migration [...] culture and diversity.
>We need to work towards a European Immigration Act
Read between the lines, and you will see that they are talking about forcing laws on the entire European community to take in Economic migrants in such numbers that the migrants will no longer need to make dubious asylum claims instead, but instead get forced through standard immigration channels, with work visas and a path to citizenship.
After all, those claiming refugee status can't vote in their host countries elections, nor undermine the labour force. And if you force the countries accepting to make them citizens, they will be impossible to get rid of in the future when their country of origin stabilises.
Are you really naive enough to read this and think they're planning on a complete U-turn to pull up the drawbridge on migration, after many years spent engineering it?
>>79597707
>They're simply lazy faggots.
Oh, so not being dependent on neetbux makes you a lazy faggot. Got it.
>>79597721
I don't know what that means and I won't respond to it.
>>79597748
>until 10PM.
This is wrong, many polling places were closed early because it was raining. Thanks, Cameron.
>>79597707
>Our polling booths are open 7am until 10pm, that's no fucking excuse you retarded kraut.
Why can't you hold referendums on Sundays like civilized people?
>>79597807
So it's just the British youth who are ignorant lethargic plebs. Good to know but I always suspected it to be true.
>>79596757
>>79592563
Off yourself please :)
>>79597841
>I don't know what that means and I won't respond to it.
You mean you dont like it so you choose to ignore it?
>>79594300
WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA?!! WHAT HAVE YOU GOT PLANNED KRAUT?!! LEAVE US ALONE! FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL!!
>>79597034
And after you failing again you germans feel obligated to go on on a chinese cartoon image board and complain how people don't like you and how everyone hate you again while you dindu nuffin. You such a cuks, I cant beleeve it. What are you, sereously though you can just build some superstate and everyone will just stay and watch? In reality instead of strengthen EU by distracting nationalists attention from inner migrations to refugees you got niggers all over Germany and no more EU. Enjoy your diversity, cucks. I will join with pleasure to new EU of Hungary, Romania, Baltic and Slavic nations, and build a superstate, while you will deal with independent Netherland how much of trade quotas they should have.
>>79596917
>>79597924
No, I mean I don't know what that means and I won't respond to it.
>>79597841
>many polling places were closed early because it was raining.
>I care deeply about this issue
>just not enough to get a little wet or bother to go vote at any time during the day anywhere in the country
NOT AN ARGUMENT.
>>79594830
the redistribution works because of different passports i think. not sure how it works exactly but the passports they get only allow them to stay in a particular country - they can go freely in schengen because the border isnt guarded, but they cant work there with their passport or if their papers get checked they get deported. or something like this.
im talking out of my ass here though - i just htink thats how it works
>>79597825
>will no longer need to make dubious asylum claims instead, but instead get forced through standard immigration channels, with work visas and a path to citizenship.
Which is good, desu senpai. We want qualified people, even Farage said that.
>>79597825
>Are you really naive enough to read this and think they're planning on a complete U-turn to pull up the drawbridge on migration
I want legal migration, a lot of it - I don't want illegal migration. I think Europe should be a lot more open, like America.
>>79597947
Na m8, NZ is full, you got a ton of desert sand for those immigrants.
>>79592563
>Germany
Of fucking course you wouldn't see anything wrong with relinquishing more of our sovereignty to an unelected parallel government.
>>79597962
literally tl;dr
Also, didn't care lol
>>79594023
>Europe should stay open to what migration and mobility can contribute to our societies in the fields of the economy, CULTURE AND DIVERSITY.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395
Yeah...NO.
>>79592563
With the raise of United States of Europe is the fall of United States of America.
>>79597841
>Oh, so not being dependent on neetbux makes you a lazy faggot. Got it.
Are you shitposting now? Everyone with a job (age groups 35-65) had huge turnout compared to under 25s.
>many polling places were closed early because it was raining
No, two stations in London were closed all day due to floods, and their voters redirected to another nearby. It's illegal to close a polling station early, and anyone queuing at one by 10pm can even vote after 10pm in case of a last minute rush. The young were simply useless mostly.
And I say this when I'm 19 and voted leave.
>>79597862
Elections have always been on Thursday in the UK, keeping the booths open 15 hours is enough.
>>79598038
Doubt it m8.
>>79597972
>I wanted to cast my vote after an extended shift as a junior doctor at an underfunded hospital where not only do I treat old Leaver neetbux scum but also contribute to their neetbux and pensions with my taxes, and the guys in charge closed the polling place early because it was raining....but this fat Burgertard glued to his mobility scooter says it's not an argument, so everything is okay. Hooray for democracy!
>>79597982
>I want legal migration, a lot of it
>Can't quote correctly
Are you straight outta reddit?
>>79597268
>We put sanctions on them, Vladimir.
USA did it, you just acepted decision of your owerlords with okay face.
>>79594097
Oh yeah, all these great parts of Israel. Just fantastic. Really, I can't see anything bad coming out of the heads of such great people. KEK
>>79598040
>Are you shitposting now?
I'm not here to bait, but to educate.
>>79598113
tl;dr
Try formatting it better next time, you appear to have posted in some sort of green font?
>>79598040
This. 18-35ish had barely 50% turnout. Lazy shitsniffers. Then they have the audacity to complain about muh boomers ruining the future.
>>79598040
>wo stations in London were closed all day due to floods
Yeah, floods of unemployed Leaver scum who were clogging the queues.
>>79598114
He fucking is. They probably served him on Reddit and he came here trying to find at least someone to share his dream with.
>>79598168
More like tl;cr
>American education
lmao
>>79598113
>the guys in charge closed the polling place early because it was raining
Didn't happen, stop bullshitting you leftist fuck
>>79598217
>lmao
Not any more, m8.
>>79598172
>muh future
18-24 age group at 28% turnout
>>79598231
There is literally nothing wrong with being gay or a lefty.
>>79594321
Nothing new here then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yt4YWOiUZI
>>79598267
Aaaand laughing again :^)
>>79598126
>USA did it, you just acepted decision of your owerlords with okay face.
Our sanctions are a lot worse than the US sanctions.
>>79598172
18-25 turnout was literally 36% m8, it was pathetic. Meanwhile over 65s had 85% turnout.
Serves them right.
>>79598300
FUNNY ISN'T IT
>>79598272
No, but there is something very wrong with being pro-EU, no matter if you are straight, gay, communist or capitalist or whatever you are.
>>79598300
Seriously, look at Nigel's hand there.
#BLACKED
Also, those socks
lmao
>>79598186
>>79598137
>>79594260
People can't vote to reduce immigration. That's pretty much all people want to vote on. The EU agrees on a bunch of stuff and locks it into a framework without democratic consultation and then pretends it totally democratic because people can vote on bunch of other shit that no cares about.
>>79598272
Well I'm gay too m8, but there is something wrong with being pro-EU.
>>79593409
Please don't say bullshit
>>79598332
Ok, snark aside: I like the thought of a European union, I do not like nor support the implementation and current state of it.
I don't think dissolving it is in anyone's interest though, so I won't support parties who want to dissolve the EU.
ITT: People still thinking democracy is all about voting
>>79597135
Welcome to /pol/, newfag
>>79598342
Look, everyone needs a hobby and this is mine. We can still be friend tho :^)
>>79594260
You are aware that representative democracy is already flawed in itself?
You want national representants to vote in new representants, considerably more powerful than the ones the people think they elected.
People become so far from power that there is virtually no democracy left.
>>79598402
>>79598419
>I like the thought of a European union, I do not like nor support the implementation and current state of it.
This was me until quite recently. Cameron's useless renegotiation showed that the EU as it is now is completely unreformable and so the whole system needs to come apart before it can be fixed.
>>79598343
>then pretends it totally democratic because people can vote on bunch of other shit that no cares about.
They actually pretend it's democratic because the ceremonial EU Parliament 'discusses' it for a couple of hours and then passes it anyway.
>>79598402
>I don't think dissolving it is in anyone's interest though
Shit, better tell your MEPs that.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/685647/Germany-ally-EU-deal-market-Brexit-Britain-Angela-Merkel
Once Britain goes with a good deal, the other dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
>>79593409
Schlomo is scared
>>79598488
>before it can be fixed.
If your wish is to fix it rather than abandon the project completely, I can agree with you.
>>79595485
I think I've never seen anything more gay than this image.
>>79598272
>>79598507
>Once Britain goes with a good deal
I don't think it would be in anyone's interest to give you a good deal.
You should be given an okay deal.
>>79597680
that's no longer any of your business anyway my paki friend
>>79597987
i'm sure we can make t work somehow, i'm so sick of filthy italian politicians that are only capable of sucking mafia's cocks and spoil our beautiful fatherland, we really need a good purge and maybe EU and our kraut brothers will be able to do that
>>79598587
I'm sorry you were molested as a child. I hope the guy served a jail sentence for that.
>>79598572
>I think I've never seen anything more gay than this image.
How about this one?
Here comes the split, faggots.
>>79598661
How about this one?
>>79592563
>what's bad about an authoritarian superstate that completely wants to dissolve the sovereignty of the member states and kill off the white population by flooding the continent with niggers and shitskins
Really males you think.
>>79598402
You LIKE the THOUGHT? Literally feelings.
The EU is has turned a criminal Neoliberal project to dismantle nation states, free float of workers as a direct attack on worker's rights, corporate formed laws like TISA/TPA or whatever they call it (100 different names to confuse people) to make the countries practically owned by corporations.
If you identify on the left, you are totally deluded. If you care about the people in your country, you are totally deluded.
If you are a shill for big corporations, do not care for the people in your country AND other countries, then you are not deluded but should be hanged.
>>79598668
>1st world countries vs. parasitic leeches
Good.
>>79598685
OP is obviously joking and we're playing along but do you really have cucks who act like this in your country?
>>79598710
>Literally feelings.
This sums up your post quite nicely, thanks for that.
>>79598722
>1st world countries
>Italy
>>79598776
What's wrong with Italy?
>>79598300
YOU ALL LAGUHED AT ME
>>79598849
I'm still laughing at him.
>>79598839
Also, sorry about last night, Italy. But you had a great run and deserve to be proud of yourselves.
>>79598839
They've always been shit, particularly in the south. Now mama merkel is making it worse.
>>79597304
They actually rally against all of the European people FOR Islam and mass immigration through "tolerance laws". It's one of the main reasons why I hate the EU so much (in its current form).
>>79598743
Ask yourself this : do you have people in your country that genuinely believe that whites are responsible for all the bad in the world and that white males are the ultimate evil that has to be destroyed ?
>>79593807
Everyone with a mutillated penis finds it terrifying
>>79598932
I'm a huge fan of South Tyrol. It's literally the best place on Earth.
I hope we can anschluss them.
>>79598685
truth is white population is committing mass suicide by no longer making children, that's hardly EU's fault
>authoritarian superstate that completely wants to dissolve the sovereignty of the member states
literally nothing wrong with it
>>79592563
Natürlich ist nichts falsches daran, aber ein ganz bestimmter Fettsack-Staat hat zu viel Angst davor, nicht mehr der große Macker des Westens sein zu dürfen. Die Amis fürchten nichts mehr als unser Streben nach Unabhängigkeit. Deswegen behandeln sie uns ja auch wie Feinde, seit Schröder und Chirac sich geweigert haben, Deutsche und Franzosen in den Irak zu schicken. Wir müssen diese Schikane ertragen, bis die andere Seite kollabiert.
>>79596021
Representatives lose interest in the EU. It's too removed from the voter base and obsessed with policy. If your electorate is complaining about over crowding and immigration and the best you can do it tell them about how diversity is a strength then you have lost touch. If you want to tell them about how you voted for some EU clean air legislation they're really not going to give two fucks. They will come to the conclusion that their EU representative has no clue about their concerns and is irrelevant
>>79594390
So what's funny about it being written in English then? Fucking moron.
>>79592563
>>79593409
>merkel is hitlers grand niece, uniting europe under superior german genetics while controlling legions of nonwhites to do menial labor and war for her, completely loyal to her because they see her as their savior from war and poverty
she will use her non-white hordes to cleanse the european state before finally turning on the jews that thought they controlled her
wew, they jews are fucking done.
its another shoah
>>79599014
america hater plz go
>>79598968
>do you have people in your country that genuinely believe that whites are responsible for all the bad in the world and that white males are the ultimate evil that has to be destroyed ?
I'm still hoping it's one giant Internet meme and I'm falling for it. I've never met anyone like this in real life.
>>79598880
For crashing this shitty union? EU is a mess that ignores any differing opinion.
>>79598998
>flooding the continent with niggers and shitskins
>nothing wrong with it
>>79592563
You have to think like a strategic megalomaniac to understand and appreciate the implications.
>>79599016
How is that different to the US? In the US, lots of people like their House representative, but they hate the Congress overall.
>>79598746
So you have no opinion on TISA/TTP etc.? :)
You think free float of workers, making local workers unable to strike/pressure for more rights?
You think that democracy is not important, as long as it says democracy on the paper?
You think big corporations should own countries, nations and people?
I don't see what drives you. Why do you support EU? Are you a shill?
>>79599060
Die Amerikaner sind das Krebsgeschwür der Weltgeschichte, jede vernünftige Person weiß das.
