When will we go? What is stopping us? Why don't more people care?
>>79584035
jews don't want white people to know their true home. when we find out we will exterminate the parasite from this earth and make way for a golden age.
Humanity is more concerned about the immediate future rather than the distant.
It's also expensive, but even that might be remidied in the next decade
>>79584035
space travel is a jewish meme to give more shekels to NASA's black hole.
How cool as shit would it be to be the first people on Mars? It would be a high that you couldn't even imagine.
>>79584035
my theory is that the global elite don't want people to go there.
just hear me out on this.
When north america was wilderness and savage indians people pissed off and wanting to get away from the then global ruling elite left to start colonies.
back then they lost controll over the american settlements because in the long run with help of other countries the american colonies were too far away to sustain any kind of real war.
now fast foward to now.
same thing. People want to break away from the global elite rulling and that manage to regain controll.
We want to leave to colonize and make self sufficent nation on mars but the global elite want to controll this to maintain an icy grip on the people so no real work will ever go into colonizing mars untill the global elite want to expand there.
>>79584035
>What is stopping us
Violence and hatred being taught in public schools instead of science.
https://www.change.org/p/berkeley-unified-school-district-fire-yvette-felarca
>>79584444
quad quads. can't argue with this post
There's a fuck ton of research we have to do before sending people there. We need to be able to keep them alive, sane and healthy so that they can collect accurate data for decades. It requires all of the modern science and engineering we have available to us and more.
Send people that far and keeping them in that state for that long is not fucking easy or cheap.
>>79584035
Theres fuckin nothing to do there.
It's a dead planet. Realistically there's nothing valuable there for us, except lebensraum. I guarantee you if we ever get there in the next 500 years, at most we'll establish an observation base or a science lab, then move on and explore more profitable trades like mining asteroids and going to Titan for all that sweet, sweet methane.
>>79584993
>>79584998
but muh terraforming
>>79584998
>It's a dead planet. Realistically there's nothing valuable there for us, except lebensraum.
Well if theory is correct think about this.
The sun at one time was larger an slowly shrank Mars at one time had a much stronger atmosphere probably. It could have had basic life on it (we already know there is water)
so what happens when organic life dies and gets burried... fossils and????? OIL, natural gas.. ect ect ect..
so if we can find oil on mars we can drill the fuck out of it and mine for coal drill for natural gas ect.
i'm pretty sure that one metal is not the ONLY thing left on that planet.
>>79584035
no resources we know of worth the effort
We already did in 1969...?
>>79585235
>so what happens when organic life dies and gets burried... fossils and????? OIL, natural gas.. ect ect ect..
>mine up a bunch of "fossils and????? OIL, natural gas.. ect ect ect.." from earth
>use them to go to mars
>dig up some more "fossils and????? OIL, natural gas.. ect ect ect.."
>use "fossils and????? OIL, natural gas.. ect ect ect.." to get them back to earth
literally why
>>79584035
Because Mars doesn't exist fool.
Earth is flat. Space is a hoax. There is no international space station. The moon is a hologram. Antarctica is a giant ice wall surrounding the flat earth that no one can pass.
>>79584444
As they should be. Fuck space. We have imminent problems here on Earth that need solved FIRST and going to space will only hinder our progress on that. Space is a wild goose chase right now. Not to mention a fraud and hoax.
>>79585485
The sad part is I'm not sure if you're being ironic or not
>>79584035
Explain why we should go and what we'll do when we get there.
>>79585169
>terraforming
Really? Please explain how to do this, and specifically how it will work on Mars.
>>79584608
you will probably die there. Any trip now will mostly likely be a one way only with no return journey.
>>79585755
Why should we cross the oceans! There's nothing out there even if it were possible!
>>79585235
>We can mine Mars for its fossil fuels.
> It'll be cost-effective.
Retarded: the post.
>>79585755
>why we should go
because when has that stopped us humans? we climb the mountain because its there
sooner or later earth will be depleted and we need other non earth colonies to further ensure the survival of our species for as long as possible.
maybe technology will advance to the point where we can be snuggly just here on 1 planet. But i hate the thought of a stray meteor or some freak yellowstone eruption wiping us all out 1 in go.
>>79585911
>travelling across the ocean is comparable to travelling to different planets
>>79585985
in 1 go*
>>79585969
the fossil fuels would be used to keep the colonies self sufficient.
>>79584035
Because mothefucker I don't want DooM to happen in real life. For fuck's sake, did you not think this over?
>>79585911
Explain why Mars specifically?
>>79584035
isnt there like a portal on mars that sends you to hell?
>>79586028
It was at the time, China tried to send a man to the moon with fireworks before they found out you could cross the pacific
>>79586176
>>79586068
hopefully we dont have to rely on fossil fuels that much in the future. Lets keep things clean.
>>79586028
crossing the ocean was equally inconceivable to early man. He though the sea went on forever and you'll just fall off the edge. We have landed robots on Mars. Its no longer a question of how, but a question of when.
>>79586133
do you want to touch Venus? the surface temperature of venus is 460C (864F) and the surface pressure is equal to 90 atmospheres on earth. There is nothing we can make that will make sure your ass survives for more than 10 seconds
>>79586274
>It was at the time
do you breath manually
We have the technology to get them there and maybe even back but the journey is very long. Mars has a very hostile environment with constant dust storms and radiation everywhere.
>>79584035
>When will we go?
Within 15 years
>What is stopping us?
We don't have launch vehicles or space ships capable of taking us there yet
>Why don't more people care?
because people are retards
Mars is impossible to colonize. Do a lot more research and less meme science based on hopes and feels. We are stuck on this planet until we can travel to other systems and find a planet very similar to earth.
Mars doesn't have enough gravity, toxic atmosphere, no protection to solar radiation, and its colder than antartica. The only way you can live there is in hab zones underground. Even if you go full delusional with terrafroming meme you can't fix the gravity problem
>>79586379
>crossing the ocean was equally inconceivable to early man. He though the sea went on forever and you'll just fall off the edge. We have landed robots on Mars. Its no longer a question of how, but a question of when.
So?
Two things being inconceivable doesn't make them the same.
Because Mars isn't a planet.
ITT: Cucks tricked by the merchant into thinking there is hope on another "world"
>>79584035
Nothing there but death
>>79585547
You do know the more progress that's made outside the earths influence, the less relevant our problems here will become right? We shouldn't be hindered because of a handful of shithole countries problems.
>>79586470
why cant you think big? if everyone thought like you we'll still be in caves eating raw meat
Mars is just another bigger ocean we'll conquer
>>79586400
You obviously do if you didn't understand he was implying back before humans circumnavigated the globe
>>79585547
>implying we will ever fix all are problems
>>79586116
Why not? As long as Doom 3 isn't the one that becomes real,we'll be ok.
>>79584035
because its a huge investment that governments cant afford. there is no way to keep a proper atmosphere on mars. it doesnt have a strong enough magnetic field. the solar wind will blow it away\
so people have to have a lot of resources sent to them and there is no self sustaining system made by man. the bio domes failed and the international space station cant even keep up with oxygen usage without being resupplied from time to time
mars is so far away if they need something you cant send them anything fast using any current means. so you would need to send them without 3 times as much shit just to make sure they dont die off. thats more rockets being used to haul cargo to space then sent to mars and thats before they even send humans
each rocket is money. all the stuff is money. all the planning is money. and how many do you plan to send? 3 ... 4 ? you need to send dozens minimum to make it worth our time so lets say 32.
food shelter oxygen batteries solar cells suits liquid oxygen + liquid hydrogen fuel to get all the stuff and people to were they need to be and replacement parts for 32 people to live on mars for 3 years times 3...
>>79586589
If there wasn't valuable resources in the new world people would not have given a shit about it. Mars is fairly well understood at this point and there is nothing to be gained from going there, so why would you go there? People haven't explored the bottom of the ocean very much either because there's fucking nothing to gain from it.
>>79586379
Venus is actually a more feasible target than Mars, although humans would have to live in floating cities at an altitude of 50 kilometres
>>79586068
Start with: the probability of fossil furls on Mars is about 0.00%.
Even if they were there, the amounts would be extremely low to have escaped any detection at all by us at this point.
Meaning, they will not be recoverable in significant quantities should minute amounts even exist. Your knowledge of Mars and fossil fuel extraction already demonstrates that you can't even comprehend the infrastructure involved in fossil fuel extraction. This isn't the Beverly Hillbillies and Jed ain't gonna shoot the dirt and make it bleed oil.
Then, there are many other vastly better technologies to provide the energy a space colony requires to be self-sustainable.
Now that we know there is basically no recoverable carbon on Mars, try to imagine how a colony is supposed to grow it's own food. There's a thing called "math" and it can tell you how much carbon mass is required to sustain each human-sized Earth animal (also calculates oxygen, nitrogen and water plus other cool shit).
Makes you think.
>>79585755
Terraforming of mars is unlikely to be done by human manpower. It is likely that genetically engineered producer and decomposer species will be seeded all over the planet, and then they will begin to produce oxygen. Then other organisms will be set up there.
>>79584035
Gender and raycisssmm is more important.
>>79586780
>Venus is actually a more feasible target than Mars
No.
It is many time more difficult to bring people and materials too and from your magical "floating cities" than too and from the surface of Mars.
The Earth is flat.
Sci-fi Cucks BTFO
>>79584035
Because the space doesn't exist, only the Earth (which is, by the way, flat) does and stars are all small and centering our world and God is real.
>>79586827
It's more likely terraforming will be done by swarms of autonomous robots that uses solar power as an energy source to burn whatever organic materials are in the soil and/or smelt the iron-rich dirt that colors the planets. The fumes released would then create a thick atmosphere, raising the surface temperatures somewhere above freezing, melting the ice caps. At this point humans would have to introduce microbes to produce more organic material and then steadily add more species to refine the atmosphere and oceans into habitable biospheres compatible with mammalian biology
the gravity is too low for humans to thrive on it, which is something we can't fix with any amount of terraforming
the amount of available energy in the form of both internal heat and sunlight is much lower than on earth
the atmosphere is thin enough to be useless for braking and prevent humans from living there but still enough to cause horrid storms of metallic dust
Venus is a better idea for a colony. Even if you have to live on the clouds in balloon colonies, having more available solar energy and heat, and an active complex atmospheric chemistry makes it much more viable and scientifically valuable.
>>79585547
see: https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html
>>79586379
>Venus
Well, why do you want to touch another planet at all? What does that accomplish?
Sure, a small scientific survey could be interesting. I'll even grant that both interesting and crucial science could be conducted that might provide value.
Self-sustaining colony?
You have to understand the investment in resources for all the factors that "self-sustaining" requires.
> Venus revisited
A self-sustaining colony at Venus is more practical (than Mars) for a number of reasons. NOTE: "at" Venus, not "on" Venus.
Easier to build a platform in the upper atmosphere, more recoverable resources that a colony can use.
Downsides: the closer you get to the Sun, the harder it is to move back out of its gravity well. And, an upper-atmosphere colony at Venus would have to be entirely constructed ... building materials would have to be imported (doable, and cheaper than Mars).
What export product(s) to make the colony viable, rather than parasitic?
>>79584035
need to breed bird to carry us out to space with capabilities to move around in space with farts first
>>79587064
I'm not shilling for any space travel, fag. But if I had to pick, would be venus, despite the cost, because its actually possible. Enjoy lower landing costs on a death planet
>>79587350
Exactly, space is a fucking joke and these fucking stupid Goyim got all into it
>>79586459
>travel to Earth-like planet
>alien virus kills travelers after contact just like with the Injuns
>terraforming is the only real option we have >humans have evolved to live on Earth only, so we must make other planets like Earth
>we Annunaki now
>>79586133
Why Mars?
>25 hour day
>gravity similar to Earth
>has water
>>79587064
You're pretty hung up on this "touching the surface" of a planet thing.
A very limiting perspective.
Science and exploration isn't a Micheal Bat movie.
>>79584035
Looks like shit desu.
>>79585547
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/50-years-50-giant-leaps-how-nasa-rocked-our-world-879377.html
>>79587072
>not knowing flight routes
Do you know that if a want to travel to Brazil or Argentina my plane is forced to fly over USA or England?
>>79587734
Because the Earth is flat.
>>79584035
Obama literally defunded Nasa. Killed Bush's plan to send people back to the moon, then to mars.
Obama wants an asteroid. What a stupid piece of shit.
It will probably be a private company that make it to mars. The moon will be mined by private corps soon, its abundant in h2o which is good for rocket fuel.
tl:dr
Obama sucks, bush did one thing right, private companies will.
>>79587486
>>gravity similar to Earth
>.38 Earth gravity
>similar
hwut?
That's like only twice the moon.
>>79586459
Bombard it with hundreds of thousands of comets.
>>79586482
Do people unironically believe this shit?
If we can't master a lunar colony why go to Mars?
>>79587842
>The moon will be mined by private corps soon, its abundant in h2o which is good for rocket fuel.
>>79586782
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonates_on_Mars
>>79584035
The reason is...humanity. Until we form a meritocracy and can control population through eugenics and eliminate Dindus(of every color) then we will be ready.
>>79587797
Nobody has ever shown a photo of the edge of the world, where the waters fall into the infinite space
>>79587968
>Hydrogen and Oxygen are used for rocket fuel you dipshit.
>>79584035
>What is stopping us
We are too busy being curbstomped: https://www.change.org/p/berkeley-unified-school-district-fire-yvette-felarca
>>79587486
>25 hour day
Meaningless. Discarded.
>gravity
... is 0.38 that of Earth. This is not good for (most) Earth life forms, including humans. In space we can manufacture our own gravity; on the surface of Mars we're pretty fucked.
>has water
Very limited resource. About as much as Lake Superior. Maybe.
Accessing & using it is a whole other problem, and we can only use a fraction of it without upsetting other balances on Mars.
What you didn't list was the vast amounts of other resources that are lacking on Mars, which need to be imported or otherwise solved.
Google up how to calculate the surface area of a sphere.
How much less sunlight falls on Mars than on Earth?
> hint - a fuckton less
We need to bring our own sunlight, somehow. And our own carbon mass. A fuckton times several million of carbon mass. And our own magnetic fields .. both for shielding from the Sun and for our own biological health.
Explain how we will extract minerals and metals from Mars? We waste several incredibly rare resources on Earth to accomplish that .. they don't exist on Mars and need to be imported.
>>79587893
Prove it wrong without reciting the merchant's teachings and referencing their "art"
>Good Goy, keep relying on white flight
>>79584035
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as Hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did.
>>79587848
Is it not enough though? It would make living much easier, and building/ mining would require less energy. It's not like we would float away. Our bodies would still function as long as we have suits.
>>79588296
It would actually be bad for your body. You probably wouldnt be able to return to earth.
>>79588296
There are health hazards from long term exposure to low gravity.
>>79588059
This is the edge, the wall keeps in all the waters so they do not fall off.
If you were to continue walking on this you'd never reach the end.
>>79588588
>>79588180
In the 2012 "photo of Earth", North America takes up half the damn planet.
They aren't even trying anymore...
But they don't have to be the common man is an idiot who will believe whatever the government tells them.
>>79584035
Unless we find some kind of new and precious resource nobody has any reason to bother.
>>79584035
>What is stopping us?
That rocket launch has just been a pork project for a long time now
It's changed now with Elon Musk
So he says we'll be going in 2024
>>79584444
quads confirm it.
/thread
>>79587219
Another possibility is to crash several water-rich asteroids and Mars' two moons into its surface using rockets assembled on-site. An impact of sufficient size could create enough heat to vaporize large amounts of material and form an atmosphere. Furthermore the added mass of the small moons and large asteroids would increase the gravity of Mars to a more earth-like level.
Although highly unlikely, the impact of the larger moon, Phobos, might actually liquify a portion of Mars' interior, restoring tectonic activity and possibly generating a weak magnetic field
>>79584257
Jews have nothing to do with this. you're AN IDIOT.
>>79587072
>planes can only fly in a perfect straight line
>>79588736
>>79589028
Wake up.
>>79587985
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonates_on_Mars
Good man.
Now, google up the term "recoverable." Going to need copious amounts of energy plus other infrastructure to pull useful mass out of carbonates ... but it's doable, at a certain investment level. $30 or $50 trillion per decade might be reasonable.
Certainly, mineral carbonates (as well as the atmosphere) can be used to extract and concentrate some carbon and some CO2. Maybe even enough to supplement organic carbon mass that will be required for plants and agriculture ... even at a small colony's requirements for 30 or 50 humans and possible even some livestock.
In fact, algae vats and small livestock (perhaps as large as rabbits) are one of the most likely possibilities to establish an agricultural ecosystem with enough biological activity to grow food in self-sustaining quantities.
Maybe only take 5 or 7 decades of importing basic carbon mass (and a few other necessary nutrients) before a stable, self-sustaining agriculture can be established. Probably to support 100-200 humans, possibly even 1000.
Assuming the lack of magnetic fields and low gravity don't prevent that.
When we sent men to the moon, we really had no idea what we'd find. We were pretty sure we wouldn't find moonmen, but that was about as far as science was confident in saying. It was true frontier exploration.
We know EXACTLY what we'll find when we land on Mars. A big lotta nothing.
>>79584035
no financial/political incentive = no
>>79585235
>implying we don't have to use fuel to transport it back to earth
>>79589229
natural gas is not a fossil fuel
theres shittons of hydrocarbons in the outer solar system
>mars
>dead
>low gravity
>barely an atmosphere
>mostly co
>stripped magnetic sphere
>no active core
>closest it will be to the earth still takes 9 months to get there
fuck mars. you know what's better?
>moon
>tidal locked
>only a few day trip with apollo tier tech
> falls within the earths magnetic sphere
>small enough to be easily turned into a active world
>land mass is equal to north and south american, australia, and europe
honestly mars is a meme
>>79589028
J-jews are not evil goyim STAHP IT.
>>79589501
Space is a meme
>>79588296
>>79588561
>>79588567
Points I was making in other posts. I'll add to that: we really don't know the effects of low gravity on the full biological cycle of almost all Earth organisms. Reproductive cycles will be seriously altered, probably completely broken.
Not to be 100% negative on that, it's also probable that many organisms can adapt or be altered artificially to adapt. Somewhat.
It would take a few decades of research to understand the details enough to develop all the fixes necessary.
Since we're talking about self-sustaining colonies, the time frame starts looking like a couple centuries, with no assurance it will be successful. How many tens of thousands of human lives living under those conditions for 200 years is acceptable?
How much will that cost?
Again, I mention that we can manufacture the resource called "gravity" in space, but we're fucked at the surface of another planet.
>>79589501
It takes less delta V to get to mars than to get to the moon
The trip is going to be more like 100 days
Where we should really be going is venus, the atmosphere of venus at 50-55 km altitude is the closest conditions to earth we'll find in this solar system.
>>79584035
WTF caused that huge scar across Mars? is that where Gilgamesh and Enkidu fought?
>>79589708
>>79589658
this. I'm not religious but it's pretty clear that what we're told about 'space' is complete bullshit
>>79589715
also that sweet 0.96 earth gravity
>>79584035
Not anytime soon. Probably in a hundred years or so. We have to come up with new technologies and remove kebab so they dont blow up the air bubble on mars
>>79584035
Humans evolved at specific gravity on a planet with a molten lead core that spins a magnetic shield for fucks sakes.
Enjoy your bone wasting and cancer you Mars freaks. Stop watching movies.
>>79590053
I dont want to colonize it you fag, I just want to go
>>79589983
>life is shitty so there is no God
>>79584035
>we
You're not going anywhere plebeian. That's where the elites will move and rule from there the cyberpunk huxleian orwellian deus ex distopia that the Earth will turn into.
We cant even stop California from drying up, why do people stll think that we could terraform shit?
>>79588961
>An impact of sufficient size could create enough heat to vaporize large amounts of material and form an atmosphere.
No. And, a Bad Idea to begin with. The Solar wind will strip off any atmosphere created. Which is irrelevant anyway. Mars has less than 5% the atmospheric density of Earth. We can't add enough to Mars to reach Earth levels (unless maybe we could mine Jupiter, or something, with "unlimited" source material.
Back to 0.38 gravity ... you can't create a dense atmosphere on Mars. The maximum would be something like 20 miles above the Earth's surface (maybe 30; I'm not calculating that shit right now). You'd still need a space suit to live there. Forever.
> Furthermore the added mass of the small moons and large asteroids would increase the gravity of Mars to a more earth-like level.
No. You would need to crash another Mars into Mars to get that much gravity. Maybe plus another 3 or 4 Earth Moons.
> Although highly unlikely, the impact of the larger moon, Phobos, might actually liquify a portion of Mars' interior, restoring tectonic activity and possibly generating a weak magnetic field
No. Just, No.
Anything that would restart tectonic activity on Mars would liquify it for half a billion years. 0.38 gravity doesn't support tectonics.
Melt the core and you still have to spin it. Good luck with that.
>>79590212
What
>>79584035
woo Mars meh video games are better really
waste of money
>>79584257
I thought i was the only one who came to this conclusion.
>>79590383
That is your only reason for being a heretic who believes the Jews.
>We are the "globalists" everything is within our "sphere" of influence
The Earth is flat.
>>79590532
What?
I have no idea what you're talking about
>>79584707
>trouble makers can't live on Mars until rich ppl invest in building shit there
t. summerfag
>>79589473
On Earth, most natural gas comes from organic carbon mass. It's generated by heat and pressure applied to coal, oil etc. Not carbonates. Or, very little comes from mineral carbonates.
Natural gas exists in the solar system (in fact, probably all start systems). Agreed.
I don't think you were suggesting that we mine the Solar system for natural gas, but - just in case you were or someone else gets the idea - it is measured at density levels of one molecule per x number of cubic miles of space.
So, collecting it and then transporting it from Uranus is somewhat problematic.
(Been waiting the entire thread to make a Uranus joke. You fuckers better laugh.)
>>79585730
He's not, and neither am I. God is with you, leaf brother.
>>79590679
I smiled.
>>79590663
The stars we see today are the same ones our ancestors viewed millennia ago.
If a ship disappears over the "curvature" of the Earth and you cannot see it over the horizon, use a telescope and you will see it.
Telescopes cannot follow curvature, telescopes cannot follow gravity.
>>79584035
>When will we go?
Never
>What is stopping us?
The lack of water, atmosphere, resources, and people willing to leave behind everything they love in order to die on desolate rock.
>Why don't more people care?
Because everything that's actually relevant to our lives is on Earth.
>>79588180
Explain the passage of the seasons, flat earther.
Explain the movement of the sun in the sky between the solstices and the equinoxes.
Explain Solar and Lunar eclipses.
Explain Lunar phases.
Explain what the sun is and why it casts a conical spotlight onto the earth instead of equal light in all directions, ie why can I not see the sun if I look north at night?
>>79584035
Libcucks. They're more concerned with "social justice" then advancing human civilization
>>79590679
You need to get rocket fuel from somewhere
So you'll need to be producing the methane from frozen water/other hydrogen compounds
>>79590866
The sun spirals in and out.
The Lunar phases are caused by the anti moon.
The sun is only roughly 25 miles in distance, it only covers an amount of land relative to its size
You guys will like this one.
We are the center of the universe.
We whites are the blue skies, the white clouds, the golden sun.
>>79590967
but that doesn't explain how sunsets work
i mean it appears on the horizon travels a straight line and like
why am i bothering lol
>>79588173
We can't even manufacture gravity properly. Astronauts experience bone density loss comparable to people with advanced osteoporosis, even from the short periods they spend up there.
The majority of the worlds population is religious, and space colonization and discovery is incompatible with religious dogma.
Space faggots are the absolute worst. Why you want to go an explore rocks and gasses that have absolutely fucking nothing sure is retarded
>>79591129
It doesn't move in a straight line.
Exhibit A.
>>79591129
Exhibit B.
Proving A.
>>79589715
>less delta V to get to Mars than to get to moon
Literally how?
>>79589943
1/3 earth gravity m8
>>79591248
>>79591212
that doesn't prove shit
the sun literally dips below the horizon
>>79584870
>There's a fuck ton of research we have to do before sending people there. We need to be able to keep them alive, sane and healthy so that they can collect accurate data for decades. It requires all of the modern science and engineering we have available to us and more.
>Send people that far and keeping them in that state for that long is not fucking easy or cheap.
If we had this attitude 500 years ago, America would still be full of indians and buffalo.
>>79585755
Ever play Dwarf Fortress? We must mine Mars.
>>79590125
i was talking about Venus gravity
>>79586482
Something with that much mass would form with the mass clustering around a center point, known as a sphere, which would make a disk shaped planet immopsible due to the laws of physics.
>I just disproved your entire theory with one sentence
>also the flat earth theory is a psy-op
>>79591407
because it's spiraling out in Exhibit B. making the North Dark during its Winter and Australia Warmer for its summer.
>>79591508
My bad
>>79591515
>implying quantum physics doesn't BTFO physics already
>implying all scientists don't eventually become theologians unless they are shekel grabbing Bill Nye the science Kikes
>>79588622
So it goes on forever? That's retarded
>>79584035
Mars is a desolate wasteland. Without terra forming, its hell to live one. Also 1/3 gravity + weak magnetic field= you get fucked up and your kids become deformed.
>>79591681
How is that retarded?
>>79584035
I fucking hate everyone. I'm ready.
>>79585547
>We have imminent problems here on Earth that need solved FIRST
send all refugees to mars.
problem solved
>>79591440
False equivalence. Columbus wanted to reach India. You want to reach a lifeless rock bathed in radiation.
>>79591526
Except that during my summer the sun moves overhead in my sky while moving south in yours.
According to your map and model it should be moving northward in your sky to get overhead in mine.
Checkmate.
>>79590951
You're helping to make the case against Mars.
Best source of concentrated hydrocarbons in the Solar system ... that we know of and is "reasonably" accessible ... is Ganymede. The surface is an ocean a couple miles deep. Kind of slushy and with a thick "ice" pack of methane (and related) about a mile thick at the surface.
Ganymede, By The Way, is a vastly more reasonable goal for space exploration than Mars. A sustainable colony at Jupiter is a bit harder to reach with our current tech, but foreseeable tech could not only get us there, but there are vast, vast, vast resources at Jupiter that a colony can use to keep itself alive and independent of Earth.
The distance and isolation is probably the worst problem. Close to it is the very weak sunlight ... but artificial sunlight can be solved with existing tech.
The magnetic field of Jupiter provides enormous protection from our Sun and cosmic radiation from the rest of the galaxies.
If I was going to bet on a space colony, I'd be looking to develop exploration and permanently habitable/self-sustaining colony structures in orbit at Jupiter. The resources available there would exceed those available on Earth, so it is quite reasonable to expect that we could house 10 billion or more people there. Permanently, with Ganymede (probably) as the "easiest" stepping stone.
We aren't going because we are not buying enough Teslas you fucking plebs. Also if we elect Trump we are going to fall back into the dark ages.
>>79584035
Because it's a giant fucking desert? Let's wait until we find a more interesting planet to pour trillions of dollars into getting there faggot
>>79591212
>1. Explain why the "north" ice cap could exist if the earth was flat.
>2. Explain how the other "disks" in our solar system orbit if the Sun is only 25 miles wide
>3. Explain why nature would allow for a 2D object in a 3D universe
>4. Explain why water moves clockwise down a drain in the southern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the northern
G R A V I T Y
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>>79591797
How long does it really go? Nothing is infinite
>>79591947
that's because the sun is spiraling out towards Antarctica(ice wall surrounding us) briefly.
Also I'd like to see your source. The Sun eventually moves North for our summer, and then ours moves South again, flat Earth or not.
>>79591625
L O G I C A L F A L L A C Y
>>79591129
Don't waste your time trying to understand. If someone can believe that there's a huge conspiracy to make people believe the earth is round instead of flat they spend too much time on YouTube. What would be the point of it all first off. Wouldn't recognizing a flat earth support all the religious beliefs and justify controlling people through that as a proof? Also how the hell could you expect the huge number of people who are keeping it secret to not let the cat out of the bag? People fuck up and someone would have said something. The flat earth thing strikes me as a psy-op to distract people into believing everything is a lie. They spend all their time chasing flat earth proof instead of focusing on matters that could maybe affect the world in a positive way.
>>79592030
>If we elect Trump we are going to fall vack into the dark ages.
Good. The Dark Ages had art, chivalry, community and a sense of belonging...
>>79592195
Well done, flat earther, with that Antarctica spiral, well done
HOWEVER
what force governs this spiraling of the sun?
>>79592030
>wanting to buy the ea of cars
ok
>>79591137
A bit of a difference between "we can't" and "we don't."
We _CAN_ make a structure ... a rotating ring ... that spins and simulates gravity close enough that we _can_ do such a thing.
We just _have_ not. Yet. The tech and science behind it is solid and fairly basic.
Up until now, the expense of sending enough materials to build such a structure has been beyond reach. We could do it as a pilot using Earth materials, but it wold be vastly better to make such a permanent station with materials that are not at the bottom of a steep gravity well.
So, Mars is out. And, even Earth's Moon is pretty cost prohibitive at the moment. Rail guns delivering packages of raw materials from the Moon's surface would be a possible solution, but we need to develop those yet and they would require significant energy to fire payloads.
Apart from the possibility of someone launching a 1 ton or 10 ton payload down Earth's gravity well at a target. People get a bit nervous when your construction machinery can eliminate between two and 20 cities per hour.
Better option is to capture asteroids and comets and build space stations at the location where you park them. Large spinning rings for the main habitable environments would allow Earth-normal conditions for living and agriculture.
>>79592124
>1. Explain why the "north" ice cap could exist if the earth was flat.
It doesn't get as much direct sunlight and God wanted whites to be at the center
>2. Explain how the other "disks" in our solar system orbit if the Sun is only 25 miles wide
there are no other disks. The stars you see are celestial bodies
>3. Explain why nature would allow for a 2D object in a 3D universe
The disk we are on is 3D, that's why you can go underground.
>4. Explain why water moves clockwise down a drain in the southern hemisphere and counterclockwise in the northern
God.
>>79592157
>Nothing is infinite
That's what the Jews want you to think so you can give up fucking your wife and let Tyrone have a go at it, meanwhile Toji is harnessing his spirit to nail his wife 10,000 times.
www.fitnesstalk.com.au/minoru-yoshida-world-record-pushups/
>>79592227
I can't explain everything, and neither can science.
You and God turned your backs on one another.
>>79592687
Serious response please
>>79592687
You were actually quite entertaining until you pulled the God card.
>>79591200
Just because you're too retarded to understand why it's important doesn't mean it isn't absolutely critical to human survival. It just means you're retarded.
Here's your "Participated" award for posting in this thread.
>>79592779
>>79592776
>>79592687
Why the fuck would every religion not be shilling for a flat earth if God has everything to do with it? It would be a huge BTFO to the scientific community and give some credence to their astrotheological belief systems.
>>79592986
>>79592687
>Disregards flat Earth as a psy-op
>Must hate God
Sounds like a cult to me.
What are the celestial bodies then?
What did we send to Mars?
Are you implying the flat earth theory is religiously based on Christianity?
>1. Explain why the "north" ice cap could exist if the earth was flat.
It doesn't get as much direct sunlight and God wanted whites to be at the center
>Eskimos aren't white.
>>79592917
And then the strawman card.
It seemed like you had an actual logical argument that was based off thought experiments and not just spewing the same memes again.
9/10 troll for stealthiness and appearance of being the genuine article up until that point. God bless you.
>>79593231
Why do you even bother?
Anyone who has been on a plane and looked outside would know the earth is round. You cannot win an argument with those basement dwellers who's never been outside.
>>79593109
Seriously. The Catholic Church has a telescope named "lucifer". Look it up. If the earth is flat they would be all over it using it as ammunition to control people. Instead of using the threat eternal damnation in hell to coerce belief they could pull out the flat earth info and use it as proof. We could go back to the dark ages again and you could be right
>>79593231
>Sounds like a cult to me.
You don't have to believe in any God, it's just foolish not to.
>What are the celestial bodies then?
"Stars" look at them with a telescope and you'll see what they really are.
>What did we send to Mars?
Nothing but a bunch of $hekel$ to line Jews pockets.
>Are you implying the flat earth theory is religiously based on Christianity?
Triggered much?
>Eskimos aren't white
>implying they didn't migrate there and evolution is responsible for why whites exist and look as fucking amazing and think of such cool shit as they do
>>79592030
>implying Trump won't begin the space race again in the name of american exceptionalism
If trump is elected we will go to mars before 2025
>>79593477
>implying the Catholic Church wasn't corrupted by the mighty $hekel and Hebrew way of fooling the Goy.
Rather than use eternal damnation they use something worse, non-existence, so people are even more desperate to "live life to the fullest!" by letting in a bunch of brown people to fuck.
>>79593378
>my definition of logic is to not bring up God, because even if de earf is fwat dere is no gawd
>>79593515
Nice trolling. I'm done for the night. Have fun.
>>79593749
You realize Christianity stems from a kike on a stick right? It wasn't (((taken over))) but always was a (((Jewish))) belief system.
>>79594041
You think I'm quitting.
It's not fair to debate with mentally challenged people.
>>79593990
>>79594227
>>79594404
Flat-earthers are shills trying to prevent us from learning about the secrets of Mars and the rest of the solar system.
>>79594518
>nothing is worse than proving all images of Earth aren't just 3D models
>>79588180
>>79584035
I'm ready to go right now?
>>79584035
There's some technological hurdles
1. First and foremost, when we went to the moon, we were still somewhat protected by the Earth's Magnetic field, which shields us from a lot of harmful solar radiation and cosmic radiation. In the interplanetary space between Earth and Mars, there will not be that protection. Even If the radiation isn't high enough to kill outright before they make it, it will likely sterilize any astronauts who make the journey and reward them with cancer.
2. It will take 8 months to travel TO Mars and another 8 months to travel back. We're now learning just how harmful extended periods of weightlessness are due to extended stays on the ISS. We will need a way to simulate gravity to make the trip.
3. That extended trip requires more food, more water, more oxygen. Resupplying them en route would be tricky at best. The best possible option would be to use multiple unmanned missions to put a return vehicle in orbit with supplies for the return journey, as well as landing an ascension stage on Mars near where the future manned mission would take place, and any vehicles they would need to travel on Mars itself, land them ahead of time as unmanned missions so that for the manned mission they can bring enough supplies for the crew plus extra to cover contingencies. This is of course crazy expensive because it requires the logistics of 3-4 missions to supply and support 1 manned mission.
It's a worthwhile goal to seek just because to do a manned landing on Mars will push our technology to its limits and improve it. The Radiation shielding and ways they can simulate gravity? There's applications for things like that outside of space travel. Just like the initial space race gave us things like cellphones.
>>79595091
>not an argument
You have yet to prove anything.
>>79595292
Same can be said to you.
Neither of us will know until we reach the edge of the Earth or get to a high enough altitude
>>79594837
Mars is a rock. It's dead. And even if you could terraform it, which you can't and probably will not in a thousand years, the planet is far too small to hold the atmosphere: it would vanish again. Secret lifted.
>>79584035
>What is stopping us?
I mean, we can go there all we want. We just need to figure out how to LIVE there for more than a few days. Like, not saying "oh, we went there, picked up some rocks and went home." That wouldn't be worth the 6 months it would take to get there. We need to develop a method of subsistence to take there, operate there and enough fuel to come back with.
Also, the planet has no magnetosphere.
Mexico will colonize mars. Free tacos, comfy spanish houses, and soccer in mars.
there is literally nothing there except a bunch of potentially dead astronauts and a couple billion dollars of wasted resources
>>79584444
Quantum Quads!
>>79584035
Mars isn't habitable for humans though. The air would kill you in seconds.
>>79586648
We don't need to solve all of them. We only need a few critical technologies.
There is nothing of value on Mars.
>>79590808
>what are newtonian kinetics
>Why doesn't anybody care about a dead barren ball of rock across a vast distance of hostile vacuum
>>79585235
>fossil fuels
>mars
>Fossils
>remnants of ancient carbon-based organisms
>organisms
>mars
Does anyone think there is ancient alien tech on Mars? Would be pretty cool.
>>79584035
>no magnetosphere
>low gravity
>thin, poisonous atmosphere
>literal desert planet
Why ARE we trying to go there?
>>79585485
You can literally walk outside and look at Mars.
>>79599796
Because we are either moving forward or going back. There is no in between.
>>79584035
>When will we go?
never
What is stopping us?
>jews and traitors
Why don't more people care?
>they are jews and/or traitors
>>79599341
have you been there? are you an alien? are you god? no? fuck off, shut up, there could be fucking mountains of gold coins in Zionists super caves, you don't know, fuck you.
>>79584257
Jesus, I cannot imagine the mind fuck we would have if we learned that white people come from Mars. The lies we already know of are stacked so high now, though, that this would not even surprise me.
>>79588180
Dude you can google earth anything you want its not that hard to disprove your retardation
>>79599341
We must stop the jew from mining Titan for hydrocarbons.
>>79584035
>us
There is no "us".
When will we wake up?
>>79599922
WE WUZ MARTIANS
>>79584035
reason
>>79589028
> t. Shlomo Shekelberg
Come in, J.I.D.F., you can do better.
>>79599796
well none of the undesirable people live there so that's a plus.
>>79587072
You're forgetting that Madagascar doesn't have an airport, it only has a dock.
No human has ever been beyond Earth. The moon landings were faked. The ISS , if real, is only 230 miles out and they admit it has to circle the Earth every 90 min to have enough centrifugal forces to beat gravity. Hot tip: The lunar rover doesn't fit inside the landing module they sent to the moon. I'm not even going to get into the thermodynamics involved in space and the materials we don't have to build things that can withstand an hour in space without surrounding gas to radiate heat to. The U2 spy plane leaks gas like a siv while on the ground because of material expansion and contraction.
because when you go on other planets, the time difference from inhabitants of the new planet, to that of earth is considerable. that means if 100 years pass by on earth, on mars only 10 years have passed.
>>79605106
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivato_International_Airport
>>79593109
Vatican (2.0 / Black Jesuit Pope) has one of the best astronomy programs in the world. Telescope named "Lucifer". Think about it. It really is a Masonic/illuminati Rothschild conspiracy that quasi-goes back to the Magna Carta which keeps the Monarchy in check legally. Pope aka pontifex maximus actually means "bridge"/contract builder for Roman law which has now spread all over the world. The birth certificate is modern slavery which revokes common laws and rights while putting subjects under her majesty's "universal commercial code" People are legally commodities..
>>79605980
i bet you think the earth is flat too
kill yourself
>>79592687
there is no god, jesus told me so
>>79606441
Nope. i'm an electrician and study tesla. Electricity and magnatism doesn't work without the world being an "electric" coil" toroid. (sphere with anomalies at the poles).
>>79606555
WTF i hate jesus now
>>79590967
>>79591212
>>79591248
>>79591526
I'll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexZbunD7Jg
you're an idiot, kill yourself
>>79606441
Btw..With your great counter-points and strong debate skills you sound as bright as a Mexican-intellectual.
>>79605980
>The lunar rover doesn't fit inside the landing module they sent to the moon
Do you shuffle through the warehouse section of Ikea, angrily muttering how a chest of drawers or a desk couldn't possibly fit in the cardboard boxes they're sold in? Do you flip the trays of meatballs in impotent rage at the fools who are clearly wasting their money because the box is smaller than the item presented in the showroom?
>without surrounding gas to radiate heat to
>gas
>required for thermal radiation emission
How do you think heat from the Sun reaches Earth?
>>79588736
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-blue-marble-photos-show-a-changing-earth.t6616/
>>79599922
I am UTTERLY, UTTERLY CONVINCED that humans (or at least just the white race) are NOT NATIVE to Earth. My theory regarding the origin of humanity is that the human species comes from elsewhere in the Milky Way galaxy and, at some point in the distant past, our earliest ancestors colonised vast swathes of the Milky Way galaxy (and are possibly still doing so) and both Mars and Earth were colonised by them along the way. There are pyramidal structures and a Sphinx-like object in various NASA photos of Mars. I also think that a fiercely destructive interplanetary war caused the destruction of a planet that used to exist between Mars and Jupiter, leaving only the asteroid belt that we know today. This war also sterilised Mars, turning what was once a lush, verdant, Earth-like planet into a cold, lifeless desert.
>>79607148
Here is merely SOME evidence (though DEFINITELY not ALL of the evidence) suggesting not only a human presence on Earth BILLIONS of years ago, but also suggesting complex human civilisations on Earth BILLIONS of years ago:
* A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago
* A human footprint with accompanying paleoliths (stones deliberately chipped into a recognisable tool type), bone tools, hearths and shelters, discovered in France and dated 300,000 to 400,000 years
* Paleoliths in Spain, a partial human skeleton and paleoliths in France; two English skeletons, one with associated paleoliths, ALL at least 300,000 years old
* Skull fragments and paleoliths in Kenya and advanced paleoliths, of modern human manufacture, in the Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, dated between 400,000 and 700,000 years
* Neoliths (the most advanced stone tools and utensils) in China of a type that indicate full human capacity, dated to 600,000 years
* Hearths, charcoal, human femurs and broken animal bones, all denoting modern humanity, in Java, dated to 830,000 years
* An anatomically modern human skull discovered in Argentina and dated between 1 million and 1.5 million years years (eoliths -chipped pebbles, thought to be the earliest known tools- at Monte Hermoso, also in Argentina, are believed to be between 1 and 2.5 million years old).
* A human tooth from Java yielding a date between 1 and 1.9 million years years
* Incised bones, dated between 1.2 and 2.5 million years, have been found in Italy
* Discoveries of paleoliths, cut and charred bones at Xihoudu in China and eoliths from Diring Yurlakh in Siberia dated to 1.8 million years
* Eoliths in India, paleoliths in England, Belgium, Italy and Argentina, flint blades in Italy, hearths in Argentina, a carved shell, pierced teeth and even two human jaws all bearing a minimum date of 2 million years (end of part 1)
>>79607269
(start of part 2) Curiously enough, several of the very earliest artifact discoveries display a truly extraordinary level of sophistication. In Idaho, for example, a 2-million-year-old clay figurine was unearthed in 1912. But even this discovery does not mark an outer limit. Bones, vertebrae and even complete skeletons have been found in Italy, Argentina and Kenya. Their minimum datings range from 3 million to 4 million years. A human skull, a partial human skeleton and a collection of neoliths discovered in California have been dated in excess of 5 million years. A human skeleton discovered at Midi in France, paleoliths found in Portugal, Burma and Argentina, a carved bone and flint flakes from Turkey all have a minimum age of 5 million years.
How far back can human history be pushed with discoveries like these? The answer seems to be a great deal further than orthodox science currently allows. As if the foregoing discoveries were not enough, we need to take account of:
* Paleoliths from France dated between 7 and 9 million years
* An eolith from India with a minimum dating of 9 million years
* Incised bones from France, Argentina and Kenya no less than 12 million years old
* More paleolith discoveries from France, dated at least 20 million years ago
* Neoliths from California in excess of 23 million years
* Three different kinds of paleoliths from Belgium with a minimum dating of 26 million years
* An anatomically modern human skeleton, neoliths and carved stones found at the Table Mountain, California and dated at least 33 million years ago
But even 33 million years is not the upper limit. A human skeleton found in Switzerland is estimated to be between 38 and 45 million years old. France has yielded up eoliths, paleoliths, cut wood and a chalk ball, the minimum ages of which range from 45 to 50 million years.
There's still more.
>>79607283
(start of part 3) In 1960, H. L. Armstrong announced in Nature magazine the discovery of fossil human footprints near the Paluxy River, in Texas. Dinosaur footprints were found in the same strata. In 1983, the Moscow News reported the discovery of a fossilised human footprint next to the fossil footprint of a three-toed dinosaur in the Turkamen Republic. Dinosaurs have been extinct for approximately 65 million years.
In 1983, Professor W. G. Burroughs of Kentucky reported the discovery of three pairs of fossil tracks dated to 300 million years ago. They showed left and right footprints. Each print had five toes and a distinct arch. The toes were spread apart like those of a human used to walking barefoot. The foot curved back like a human foot to what appeared to be a human heel. There was a pair of prints in the series that showed a left and right foot. The distance between them is just what you'd expect in modern human footprints.
In December 1862, The Geologist carried news of a human skeleton found 27.5 m (90 ft) below the surface in a coal seam in Illinois. The seam was dated between 286 and 320 million years. It's true that a few eoliths, skull fragments and fossil footprints, however old, provide no real backing for the idea of advanced prehistoric human civilisations.
But some other discoveries do.
In 1968, an American fossil collector named William J. Meister found a fossilised human shoe print near Antelope Spring, Utah. There were trilobite fossils in the same stone, which means it was at least 245 million years old. Close examination showed that the sole of this shoe differed little, if at all, from those of shoes manufactured today.
In 1897, a carved stone showing multiple faces of an old man was found at a depth of 40 m (130 ft) in a coal mine in Iowa. The coal there was of similar age.
>>79607296
(start of part 4) A piece of coal yielded up an encased iron cup in 1912. Frank J. Kenwood, who made the discovery, was so intrigued he traced the origin of the coal and discovered it came from the Wilburton Mine in Oklahoma. The coal there is about 312 million years old.
In 1844, Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster reported the discovery of a metal nail embedded in a sandstone block from a quarry in the north of England. The head was completely encased, ruling out the possibility that it had been driven in at some recent date. The block from which it came is approximately 360 million years old.
On 22 June 1844, The Times reported that a length of gold thread had been found by workmen embedded in stone close to the River Tweed. This stone too was around 360 million years old.
Astonishing though these dates may appear to anyone familiar with the orthodox theory of human origins, they pale in comparison with the dates of two further discoveries.
According to Scientific American, dated 5 June 1852, blasting activities at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester, Massachusetts, unearthed a metallic, bell-shaped vessel extensively decorated with silver inlays of flowers and vines. The workmanship was described as 'exquisite'. The vessel was blown out of a bed of Roxbury conglomerate dated somewhat earlier than 600 million years.
In 1993, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson reported the discovery 'over the past several decades' of hundreds of metallic spheres in a pyrophyllite mine in South Africa. The spheres are grooved and give the appearance of having been manufactured. If so, the strata in which they were found suggest they were manufactured 2.8 BILLION years ago.
>>79607308
(start of part 5) What are we to make of these perplexing discoveries? They cannot simply be dismissed. If even ONE of these discoveries is TRUE (and I believe that MANY if not ALL of these discoveries are TRUE), then it changes EVERYTHING that modern mainstream anthropologists THOUGHT they knew about the human species. (end)
Because of one simple equation:
Cost to build a Mars colony < Cost to genocide another tribe and take their lands
Until you remedy that, humanity isn't going anywhere soon.
>>79584035
There is nothing there on Mars. Nothing we want.
We will become interested in genuine space travel when we find an asteroid made entirely out of something we need and decide to bring that back to earth.
That is the next step.
>>79584035
religion and flat earthers are holding us back
>>79584035
>what are launch windows
>>79607148
AYYO HOL UP SO YOU BE SAYING WHITEY CAME AND CONQUERED US WITH LAZER GUNS
DAMN THESE BOOKS BE LYING SAYING WE WERE AFRICANS N SHEEIT WE WERE EUROOEANS
>>79584035
Nobody cares about space.
That's why realistic sci-fi is the smallest niche.
>>79607367
Read your post again beerbro... Fuckin' love you Belgium, but from time to time you really mess up.
>>79584520
...Space Travel while a meme.. Isnt exactly impossible. You know there are planets outside our solar system.. Once we figure out more efficient fission rates or create fusion it could be entirely possible. Also understanding magnetic/gravitation fields and forces is necessary. Basically its not impossible.
>>79607327
Thanks man. The sad thing is it doesn't matter how much evidence like this is found- The mainstream scientific community refuses to acknowledge anything remotely taboo like this. It would take someone ruining their career to even bring a small amount of awareness to a single thing.
>>79607669
there's no point in doing so.
>>79587734
hwat
>>79586403
Radiation everywhere
Kill yourself. Now. Everything gives off radiation.. We are surrounded by a constant bath of photons and cosmic radiation
>>79607673
>Thanks man.
No problem, Ameribro.
>The sad thing is it doesn't matter how much evidence like this is found- The mainstream scientific community refuses to acknowledge anything remotely taboo like this. It would take someone ruining their career to even bring a small amount of awareness to a single thing.
It genuinely upsets me to admit this, but what we call 'mainstream science' has been hijacked by politics, religion and corporations. Indeed, the mere fact that we even have so-called 'mainstream science' and 'non-mainstream science' IN THE FIRST PLACE instead of just 'science' AS IT SHOULD BE is a MAJOR, MAJOR PROBLEM. So-called 'peer review' these days is usually nothing more than a circle-jerk. Just as people support the separation of church and state (and RIGHTFULLY so), I support the separation of SCIENCE and state. Keep the government out of science, bedrooms and wallets.
>>79607327
You should look at creationist interpretation of radiometric dating methods. Makes more sense than an old earth.
Google Kent hovind, Ian juby, answersingenesis
>>79586459
Well if gravity was a problem wouldnt you just eat more??
>>79609056
Humans actually evolved from Mars and now we're earth. Next we will be Venus and then mercury and then we reach the sun
>>79586780
Lol.. Motherfucking floating cities.. Youre still to close to the sun. Theres no fucking oxygen just helium and hydrogen.. Humans couldnt step outside not even for a second
>>79584035
mars has no defense against radiation..
>>79608671
I'm sure everyone thought the same thing about John Quincy Adams wanting to open up trade with mole people from the hollow Earth.
>>79584035
the amount of flat earth memeing in this thread is sad, then again they're all religious idiots so i guess religious idiots are still the majority on this planet.
fuck humanity
>>79589501
The moon is only 2000 miles in diameter first off.. There arent organic molecules..
Tidally locked.. Do you even know what that means?
Do you know how cold the moon is since its .. Tidally locked
