Why does Australia have such a huge crystal meth problem?
>>79576237
That's looks juicy, would love a good fat hit of that to keep me up for 3 days.
>>79576339
And during those 3 days you would do what?
The country's boring as fuck.
>>79576237
gotta be able to stay up at all hours shitposting
>>79576237
Because meth is awesome
Protip: just use adderall, same thing
>>79576391
Mostly fap, probably.
>>79576237
Centrelink benefit abuse, weak families and culture that glorifies niggardry over success.
And corrupt Customs officers letting bulk drugs through.
Because it is highly addictive and cunts have nothing else going for them
But I mean, it's illegal so there can't possibly be a drug problem, it's all just made up statistics
>>79576237
What does crystal method taste like
>>79576638
Brunt plastic
>>79576339
How much is meth in the UK? Heard its a faggots drug
Shoulda legalized weed, dummies. You'll catch up though, I still believe in them. Maybe they'll even get their guns back.
>>79576638
Chemicals, burns the hell out of your nose too
>>79576237
country is boring as fuck
white people do meth
abbos huff petrol
>>79576520
it's really not the same thing you idiot
>>79576520
Adderall costs nearly $1/mg while meth is basically free if you have no amphetamine tolerance. It's a shame crystal is cut with IBA and MSM though. Also adderall does not make you even close to horny enough to beat off for three days see >>79576572
You should come visit Methssouri, place is swimming in the shit.
>>79576715
You could probably get all the ingredients to make it at your local grocery for like 30-40 quid
Idk about the UK, but in the US that's enough to make about 1/8 of an ounce.
>>79576799
Meth = Methamphetamine
Adderall = Dextroamphetamine
Meth is just stronger
Cocaine is well expensive here. I mean fuck sakes, a bottle of dexies can get you $500
>>79576237
Because it is a CRACK INFESTED HIVE of DEGENERACY.
>>79576237
Cocaine and crack are hard to get in OZ and NZ.
>>79576935
Silly anon, those aren't even real words lol
>>79576237
Because it's too hot and empty to be sober
>>79577035
Nope, it's the lack of crack that promotes meth.
Probably something to do with location.
A yank on here once told me that places in America that don't get good drugs do meth instead, so that's why rural America has a problem with it. It's easy to make with easily acquired ingredients and its cheap.
Australia might be the same, they're pretty isolated and out of the way so you probably don't get a good steady supply of good coke and such. And they are close to SEA, where meth is popular.
I bet they get some pretty good heroin as well. being near that area.
I've never heard of someone doing meth in Europe. Everyone does coke and ecstasy.
>>79576935
Meth/amph are about as similar as mda/mdma
>>79576520
Adderal feels a bit cleaner, and not as jittery. It's not nearly as intense either. Also shooting up adderal is a huge pain in the ass while shooting meth take like 60 seconds if you're good at finding a vein.
>>79576237
The same reason we have a meth problem here. It's cheap, easy to make, and it gets you fucked up.
>>79577059
A fucking leaf
FUN FACT INCOMING:
80% of all meth that comes into the USA comes from Mexico!
They're bringing drugs
>>79576935
I know that. Just don't try and say they're the same thing when Adderall is much safer and chemically different.
>why does subjective reality have such a huge crystal meth problem?
>>79577191
The cartels also cut it with horseshit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropylbenzylamine
Bring back American pseudo chefs
>tfw live in the town with the highest meth usage in Australia
Drink hard all night. Wake up hungover as fuck. Pop a 5mg dexamphetamine and everything's right in the world.
rinse , repeat.
Because it's full of Australians
>>79577110
This is exactly the case here in Alaska. The more remote, the more meth-y. However, it's strongly offset by our oodles of legal cannabis.
Don't worry, Pauline will put them in the gulags where they belong
>be me
>be 21
>In bathroom of worldbar chuckin a rad piss
>four blokes smoking ice in stall
Must be good for a hangover or some shit?
Australia has become a "nanny state" since 1996. In the wake of the Port Arthur Massacre, where Martin Bryant capped 35 people with his AR-15, the (mostly-Liberal) governments have been deciding that Australians are simply too irresponsible to look after their own affairs themselves, and are doing it for them. The Howard government tearing the heart out of funding for public education between 1995-2007, certainly didn't help.
As a possible consequence of being talked down to like children for the last-20 years, many Australians have decided they're simply going to ACT like children, namely by getting high on methamphetamine and whatever else they can get their grubby hands on.
Pic related, it's another contributor to the shithole that Australia is fast becoming.
>>79576237
Country boy here.
Once you get tired of riding your motorbike or playing guitar there's FUCK ALL to do here.
So a couple of likely lads get online and learn about shake'n'bake and it spread everywhere.
The problem really got out of hand in the rural parts of the country when the abos learned how to make it from prisons.
>>79577110
>Everyone does coke and ecstasy.
Pro tip: 90% of the ecstasy pill on the planet contain meth. Not a bad thing the two drugs synergize very well together. Just letting you know if some one is taking ecstasy tabs (not molly) they are more than likely taking meth too.
>>79576638
Bitter burning chemicals
>>79577784
>Must be good for a hangover or some shit?
yeah, cocaine too. i personally wouldn't know though
>>79577793
lol what does an Abbo on meth act like?
>>79576715
Old school meth is more liked by poofters, they cut it with Epsom salts and it heats up and loosens their arsehole
I'm not even joking
https://youtu.be/M7xNult1GVM
half of my friends have tried crystal meth, its pretty common here in frankston
>>79577908
Go to Taree, Kuranda, or Bairnsdale and see.
>>79577905
I havnt done either, those blokes did not look like they were enjoying life though. Not surprised people are doing drugs though, we get locked out of pubs at 1am and then no alcohol sold after 3am. Fuck me, I'm an adult and I pay tax. I should fuckin be able to do as I wish
>>79577271
So how's the ice m8? Is it really worth all the fuss it gets?
>>79578100
It's fucking everywhere in Frankston. I was there 6 months ago and I couldn't believe how bad it was.
think about it, would you want to be an Australian?
>>79577848
mdma stands for methelynedioxymethamphetamine
>>79578116
so what you can't just throw a case in the fridge and come home after the bars close and take it down the local park and relax outdoors?
>>79577848
Stuff here tends to be extremely pure and strong, but we're pretty much the ecstasy capital of the world.
http://www.deephouseamsterdam.com/netherlands-has-worlds-highest-mdma-percentage/
Hard to import drugs, such as coke and heroin. Meth is easy to manufacture. Interior of USA has same big meth problem for same reasons
>>79578456
90% of my friends have taken exctasy/MDMA (most likely research chemicals tho). what does the high even feel like?
>>79577789
>Australia has become a "nanny state" since 1996. In the wake of the Port Arthur Massacre, where Martin Bryant capped 35 people with his AR-15, the (mostly-Liberal) governments have been deciding that Australians are simply too irresponsible to look after their own affairs themselves, and are doing it for them. The Howard government tearing the heart out of funding for public education between 1995-2007, certainly didn't help.
>As a possible consequence of being talked down to like children for the last-20 years, many Australians have decided they're simply going to ACT like children, namely by getting high on methamphetamine and whatever else they can get their grubby hands on.
>Pic related, it's another contributor to the shithole that Australia is fast becoming.
God damn, it's so rare to see a reasonable Australian on /pol/.
>>79576237
Fuckin bogans that's why
>>79578716
You lads should legalise weed. Gives the plebs something to do and it would go well with your beaches.
>>79576237
It's literally a nation full of criminals and degenerates.
>>79576799
It's nearly the same
T. Meth heroin Xanax addict for a year and a half
>>79578674
you feel good physicially and emotionally really great talking with people music gives you waves of euphoria and it makes your eyes rock back in forth to it
i also think it is a really fake superficial feeling high though
ive done it a few times and not really interested in doing it again
>>79576849
But what's meth like for ADHD though? Will I get shit done?
Too much money, not enough sense.
>>79577913
Does it still give you arse ache? ; )
>>79578477
I can, obviously. But I don't want to most of the time, before these laws I'd stay out till 6am watching live music. It was great! Now days, most bars in the city have closed, almost none have live music anymore. Even places selling food that are open late are disapearing
Its the anglo genes desu UK , australia , and the eastern/south eastern states should be nuked
>>79578974
never done meth but done dexies. suspect I have innatettive ADD. it was basically like the movie limitless
because meth gets you thru the day like nothing else.
work 7 days a week doing back breaking labour?
shoot some meth and you blitz thru it.
it's huge in the mining/construction industry.
>>79578456
You can't into chemistry at all. The methylenedioxy group bonded to a methamphetamine molecule gives it completely different psychoactive effects.
>>79578803
>Gives the plebs something to do and it would go well with your beaches.
Australia would still be boring and to be honest our culture has a lot of flaws, and we take it out on immigrants.
Wasn't one form of homebake meth literally invented in australia or nz?
>>79579251
nobody said it gave the same feeling
all i did was say him the name
you my friend have autism
>>79577285
You're lucky, takes me three just to make breakfast
>>79579055
is it local ordinance that prohibits this? if not you should take the initiative, rent out a park, have live music and serve drinks. maybe twice a month or so and have it go on all night. you could do a big grill out too
>>79579375
kek
I can't leave my house anymore to go to work without smoking nearly $300 in meth and popping many, many xanax and drinking a lot of liquor. That is a normal day for me. My days off I usually double my intake of substances.
>>79579441
>is it local ordinance that prohibits this
It is actually, in Sydney anyway
Don't remember exactly, but I think foot traffic at 1 am was down 85% or something
>>79579590
post pics of shards and xannies
>>79579441
You can't do this. You wouldn't get council approval to run a gig all night and even if you did cops would shut it down by midnight.
Australia actually has some pretty tight boarders. And considering we're an Island Nation, only makes it harder to get foreign drugs in.
This means that the cost of most drugs is rather high, whereas the cost of Meth is lower because it can be made in the country.
>>79579441
It is literally the Entire state, you can't drink in public areas either unless it's a holiday (ie: New Years Eve) I know a park down from me in Darlinghurst has like $500 fines for consuming alcohol
>>79579668
You could make so much money from throwing parties though dog
>>79576422
Boring? Don't you have to watch out for killer bugs and animals? No joke, but I've always dreamed of having the life of Steve Irwin. So boring in norcal.
>>79579290
You're better off with slow retarded dabheads than people who stay up on meth all week though.
What do you mean by Australia being boring by the way? What does Europe or the US have that Australia doesn't?
>>79579590
Why haven't you killed yourself?
>>79576849
$1/mg? what the absolute fuck kind of dealers do you have? mine sells 20mg for $2 and gives friends deals for bulk.
I literally find a few quarters in my car and then use it to tweak for a day.
>>79576237
Why does anywhere have a meth problem?
> Not hard to produce
> can be done in large scale, and sold for prices that rival gold in some places
> so addictive that people kill over a few dollars of it
> people get so Fucked on it, that they rob family.
> changes brain chemistry, makes you less happy without it, for two years after you quit.
Why are you asking /pol/, slider?
~t. Former user. 8 years clean.
>>79576237
No jobs and low population density = Substance abuse
Substance abuse really isn't a problem in cities, unless ghettos form specifically as a result of drugs. If you can avoid ghettos you can avoid drugs in cities.
Not so much in towns and rural areas.
>>79579668
>>79579708
>>79579758
this sounds like total shit. i'm sorry
>>79579155
Yeah I take dexis for ADHD but they're not fabulous. I have a sleep disorder that seems to be contributing to the ADHD but prescribing me bucket loads of dexis seems to be the way to go
>>79576237
Because they are far away from cocaine-producing countries.
>>79579904
haha, no worries. There was a protest recently that had 20 000 people show up. Fun times. The guy running the show (Mike Baird) also recently amalgamated all the local councils, funnily enough that means he can build a lot of things in areas where the councils were opposed to it, good thing those councils dont exist right?
>>79579325
Id like to think so. We're inventors and innovators down this neck of the woods
>>79576237
Have you ever tried meth? Imagine how you are on your best day, now times that by 10. You feel like superman for days. Cost vs High it is the best high for your buck.
Weed = High for a couple hours
Coke = Upper high for 30 minutes max then you have to do more
Dope = Downer high where you cant do anything; drool all over yourself and sleep
Meth = Upper and you are the fucking Man/Clint Eastwood/Terminator motherfucker and you can do anything for 2-3 days
China is the world's biggest meth producer, Aus is one of the closest rich countries to China.
I'm sure a lot of it is coming from there, despite people thinking borders are tight.
>>79579870
I can tell you will fall soon.
may the kek be with you.
It is just a hit bruh... just... one hit...
>>79580199
Meth is easy to make, you dont need China for that.
That is why it is called a cheap man's drug.
Even a white trash land like Australia can produce Meth.
Same reason why Cocaine is for the rich.
>>79579842
>What does Europe or the US have that Australia doesn't?
More civilisation and less desert.
>>79580199
Bull Shiite. Mexico ships it into the US by tons, daily.
>weed = bulky and a few dollars an ounce
> meth= doesn't have the same pungent odor (you can still smell it, but not the same), a few ounces has a profit margin close to gold trade
Netflix has a few documentaries that show THE MEXICAN ARMY cooking meth for the cartels. Weed had become common, and the cartels deal in powdered drugs now.
Easier to transport, and so much more profitable, with less time invested.
>>79579862
>(((dealers)))
>>79580212
Think what you like.
I live in Colorado, and run my life by the rules now. I grow my own plants, and avoid any user of other drugs.
When you've robbed innocent people to pay for your bad habits, we can speak as equals. Unless you have a krockidile addiction, you are just shit posting. You have no idea, and your comments show it.
>>79580610
What do you mean by civilisation? Museums?
Everywhere claims to have a crystal meth problem. It's an easy joke that makes it seem like you're in touch with your surroundings.
>>79580751
Do you realize how many more people there are in China than mexico? Meth is the number 1 drug of choice there. There are entire armed cities that solely produce meth.
China produces way more, and there have been numerous busts of huge shipments of meth from china to aus.
I used to live there. I know what I'm talking about, asshat. Go watch another netflix doc and preach about how intelligent you are.
I lived right outside what they called the "meth superhighway" of the south, a house in my neighborhood blew up and burned down when a meth lab went wrong.
Everyone says how badly it fucks you up but some people on /r9k/ say it can be used productively if you have willpower. I don't know and have no plans to try it but I am interested, any users except that one guy?
>>79576935
No, hahahaha.
Adderall = 75% dextroamphetamine, 25% levoamphetamine.
Crystal meth is dextromethamphetamine, which is much more powerful than dextroamphetamine.
You can get levomethamphetamine in Benzedrex inhalers, but the d isomer is much better than the L isomer of all types of amphetamine.
>>79579907
Meth is better than dexies for getting shit done. It's cheap too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_rwtgyuRRk&t=0s
is this what australian meth heads are like?
>>79581379
http://www.cpr.org/news/story/meth-use-colorado-has-police-and-outreach-groups-scrambling
It's a meme to you but humor me and Google this
> Colorado legalized meth
Think about the idiots on /pol/, give them super powered anger, and less common sense. My community is flooded by these idiots + Mexican mafia pushing/selling/moving it through my town.
Last week they busted someone on I 70 with seven pounds.
That's more $, street value, than some countries GDP.
>>79581597
I have facts, you have stories.
Cool story bro.
>>79581712
>levomethamphetamine in Benzedrex inhalers
this does nothing worth i thought
if you can find ones with propylhexedrine it is better but still shitty and not worth it
>>79576237
The Chinese Triads
a-pvp > meth
Meth is really fantastic, if you are someone who is capable of self control. You have to know yourself very well to be a real chipper. If you aren't extremely confident about being able to control your drug use, stay away from meth and heroin. I've used hard drugs for ten years, never being addicted, or even using anything habitually aside from nicotine. I can answer questions, if there are any.
>>79582115
I would never bother with levoamphetamine. Just buy meth, it's cheap.
>>79582269
i used to do meth for a few years but luckily quit
i was out of there completley psychotic
>>79581240
>What do you mean by civilisation? Museums?
More cities, better infrastructure, up to date services in medicine, energy, transportation, Internet, trades, etc.
Tourist destinations that doesn't only revolve around a few structures and outback.
>>79578949
Pretty much. Also has given me Psychosis, so to any new comers to MDMA, if weed already makes you Para's to fuck, m8, careful on those MD doses.
>>79582375
Meth is only good if you eat it (not smoke it) and use it on occasions to help boost your performance, rather than relying on it or using it all the time.
There is literally nothing to be ashamed of about using a powerful stimulant to do things you don't want to do. People who don't are just at a disadvantage.
Who else here has the occasional toke of /ice/?
>>79582180
>I'm not addicted but I've used hard drugs for ten years
>I've got great self control but need to take narcotics
>>79582500
im too degenerate and get addictid to use it responsibly i would iv it
i do know people who use it and are responsible though
i only drink beer and smoke weed from now on
>>79576237
simply because their customs is really really good, inspects a lot of packages, and its hard to ship drugs in.
It's easier to get meth precursors and make it inside the borders, also, lots of open land makes privacy and watching for law enforcement easy.
They'd be better off with legalized cocaine
>>79582720
IVing meth is not really worth it.
>>79581689
What would /r9k/ know about willpower?
>>79582628
Your reading comprehension is poor. And what is the point of your post? You hate drug use, so you want to make me feel like shit because I use drugs? How tedious.
>>79579807
funny thing, meth is a problem there too
>>79582773
why do you think so
i always felt smoking was the shittiest way
guess we know there's a meth addict aussie twat abusing airplane mode now
>>79576237
There are hideous spiders crawling all over everything anyway, you might as well have some fun.
>>79583432
IVing lets you use less for the same feeling but the rush isn't particularly good. It's not like IV cocaine or IV heroin.
Smoking is retarded. Eat it. Eating meth is the only responsible way to do it.
>>79583540
Have you IVed? IMO, IV meth is just fucking excellent. Really amazing. My second favourite behind heroin, but that may be because it is my drug of choice.
>>79583276
I'm not him, so save it, mate. It's pretty clear what he meant. You feel free to respond to me on my comments.
A ten year use of a substance is addiction. If you only buy a pack of fags, once a month, it's still addiction.
Seriously, you have great control, if you're honest. Addicts lie, so it's hard to take you serious. Especially because you are defensive on an anonymous image board for antique polish literature.
You probably do have a problem, and your five teeth are an example.
>>79583678
Yes. Definitely not worth it.
My philosophy on drugs is a bit different though. I believe they are powerful agents for productivity when used right, particularly certain kinds of drugs. Blind hedonism is pointless.
>>79579384
Take a break from it for a while. I'm on a 4 month break at the moment. Trying to reduce that tolerance. I was finding 1 5mg did very little whereas before I'd be revving hard.
>>79577191
once upon a time, if a man needed some cocaine, he just went to the god damned drug store like a god damned human being
>>79583730
Responding because I am extremely bored. Not actually upset by his comments, or yours. Would you argue that all consumer of alcohol are addicts? Most people drink regularly, even if only in small amounts. Why am I the addict for sporadic use, and those individuals aren't? Addiction is being unable to say no to drugs, prioritizing them above essentials, having their use negatively impact your life etc. I choose when, why, how I use. That's self control, not addiction.
>>79579384
>>79584332
How much are you guys prescribed?
>>79579862
what kind of chinese analogues is he selling
>>79579862
Probably pressed meth pills man.
I've been taking dexamphetamine for about 8 years almost every day and I don't know why people get addicted to meth.
I can quit any time I want, it's just I become a lot less productive.
And yes, for about the first 5 years it was normal for me to experience euphoria when I took it.
>>79581867
Sold
>>79583730
That's not how addiction is defined, dumbass.
>>79584876
I don't get euphoria from dexies, the experience is very subdued and mild, even when I take a lot.
How much do you take a day?
>>79576237
It is likely the same as the Heroin and Cocaine trade in the US.
>external intelligence agencies (EIA) seek cartels in third world countries where drug trade is booming due to corruption that spreads in peripheral regions due to ineffective (usually communist) government
>EIAs choose a burgeoning cartel, and give them material support in exchange for drugs
>Drugs are then taken back to the EIAs homeland and distributed to the sympathetic syndications, usually remnants of an age without federal law enforcement and domestic intelligence community.
>These syndications in-turn distribute the drugs to smaller and more violent street gangs.
>Street gangs distribute the drugs to the poor, who have had very stressful lives and seek chemical release from anxiety and depression.
>The drugs also lessen their life expectancy, which is fine as there are no jobs for them and likely little for them to do except live to get welfare.
>This also ties in with "voluntary sterilization" such as promoting the use of contraceptives to young women under various culturally acceptable guises.
>This has been aided by de-traditionalisation
>This also helps to promote social segregation due to statistical padding based on the targeted distribution of drugs
>The money made from the drug trade is then filtered through small-medium enterpise cash based businesses, which pay taxes. This allows the higher eschelons of syndications to draw a legitimate wage, and stops red flags from being raised.
>However, the vast majority of funds are filtered directly to the EIAs in cash. This cash is then used to fund other operations that are too complex and morally ambigious to disclose to the federal government, and therefore the public.
>This is the new way of waging war
The main difference is that Australia isn't trying to kill two birds with one stone. We make the drugs and sell them to our people, so our EIA can covertly operate in the SEA region.
>>79584991
Currently I'm prescribed 4 doses of 10mg a day.
When I was experiencing euphoria I was only taking about 2 doses of 10mg a day.
>>79585191
Dexies only come in 5mg pills, so you mean 2x5mg, 4 times a day?
Pretty high dose. So your pysch has gradually escalated you over time I guess?
>>79584556
M80, calm down. My example was nicotine. You want to make it alcohol, caffeine, Tylenol?
Fine by me. Look up the definition of addict. If you routinely use the substance, regularly, over a decade it's stone cold clear.
I've lived that life, and still have my own addictions. I'm not judging you, idrgaf about the argument.
By your definition, living in a dumpster and eating out of it, while performing gay prostitution to pay for your drugs would be sane.
>>79577784
>mfw i live in kings cross still and you constantly find half snorted lines in the toilets of world bar
<:)
>>79585251
Yeah 2 x 5mg.
And yeah gradually increased.
You have to get a second opinion from another psychiatrist to get over 60mg a day, and I think the absolute maximum is 90mg a day.
I tried (with permission) taking 15mg doses for a while but it felt the same so I went back down in favor of more doses a day.
>>79585481
Wait I messed up the math.
You need to get a second opinion to get over 6 x 5mg a day.
>>79585481
What's your state? I know in NSW anything over 30mg a day requires health department approval.
I wish I was a bit more sensitive to dex, because it really does help me be productive, but only in high doses.
Australians have huge alcohol problems. We're so used to drinking that we see drugs as just being another type of drink. Trades are the stereotypical Australian profession and a lot of tradesmen are from poor backgrounds. Tradesmen use drugs while they work, I've known a lot of tradies who wake up in the morning with a hangover, punch a few cones and go to work. Ice is just a drug you take to keep you going throughout the day and if you want to party.
>>79585710
Aussies drink less alcohol than a heap of other countries, mainly because of our insanely high alcohol taxes, the highest in the world bar Norway.
Why does Australia have a shitposting problem? Also, really makes me think
>>79585669
Just try the dark web and get dexlomethlemine.
I've read up on micro doses being very effective for depression/motivation.
>>79585669
Nah I messed up the math, it's the same here.
>>79585838
I already buy meth from the darknet and use small-ish doses for productivity. Dexlomethlamine isn't a substance.
Some "ice" is actually 4-methylaminorex, which is supposed to be OK, but I'd never touch the stuff. Good ice is D-methamp.
>>79576237
No guns.
>>79584630
>>79584803
Nope, they're 20mg name brand XR capsules. I've seen his script.
Cause it's so good, Meth and Heroin i consider to be the tops of the drug pyramid, I've never done heroin but every other drug I have and after meth I even quit smoking weed after being a daily smoker for years.
Meth is the only drug I have recurring dreams about using, I knew i'd gotten myself into big trouble once they had started happening.
>>79587061
You literally dreamed of snorting lines?
That's fucking weird
>>79577789
>""""""""""""""""Martin Bryant""""""""""""" capped 35 people with his AR-15
Yes good goy, it was clearly Martin Bryant, IQ 66, who shot 32 people with 29 rounds of ammo scoring 20 headshots, all from the hip in less than 30 seconds, with his right hand on the AR-15 (which months earlier disappeared from a police evidence room) despite being left-handed.
Also the fact that the only high-capacity "morgue truck" on the entire continent was in Port Arthur that day was merely consequence. Also the fact there was no DNA evidence, no true eye witness account that directly mentions him in name, and the corrupted video of the interrogation where Bryant plead guilty is surely just all consequence as well.
I mean you're not one of those crazy conspiracy theorists, are you anon?
>>79576237
There were a number of ideas about substances being addictive, but the more we have come to learn about them over time, the more we realize that it has to do with the individual's brain chemistry at large rather than the substance itself.
The better way to think about addiction is to remove the need for there being a catalyzing substance, like a drug. The same bio-chemical process that drives a fit and healthy person to go for a run every morning, is the same in the brain of a junkie getting their fix and visiting the land of nod. The behaviors are different, but the neurological processes are theorized to be the same.
Current theories hypothesize that addiction is a natural process in the brain that helps us build routine. It is when this is combined with low or irregular dopamine/GABA/endorphan/serotonin/norepinephrine production that habits can become dysfunctional. It is still meeting the same end, the brain informs the body what it needs and forms behavioral patterns around this. It is hard to focus on CV health when your brain doesn't produce much dopamine. Dopamine is the reward system that makes us feel "good" about doing things that we are biologically tuned for. For instance, healthy women get a dopamine release from caring for children. It is hard to say what creates these neurological deficiencies though.
Truth be told, the main reason most substance addicts lead unhealthy lives is due to the tight fisted control of said substances, or the substances' toxicity (not just how bad it is for you, but also how quickly your body builds a tolerance to the substance). But as discussed, they are simply a kind of self-medication for a poorly understood brain chemistry issue the individual has. They reach out for the only medication they know to fix the problem they can't even conceptualize, and therefore form a habit around it seeking only to survive and function.
This is only one form of addiction, however, it is the form being exploited.
>>79587265
I can tell you've never done it or use it regularly, no serious user snorts it, I keep having dreams about doing big fat cloudy hits, my friend IV's it but he refused to do me one because in his own words, it's all over once you start using the needle.
The only problem is the shitty comedown effects which last for 24+ hours and the rapid tolerance which means that initial euphoria lasts for fuck all and you spend your entire life chasing that first high.
>>79585325
This is not the definition of addiction. Try again.
>>79587444
A hahahaha this faggot.
Your tinfoil hat is a little thin in places...
>>79578103
Don't Forget bowraville
>>79579325
Kind of. It was just a upgrade of the old handheld shake'n'bake in bottles Americans made.
The history goes.
Germans invented a proto form of it
Japs perfected it for kamikaze pilots.
Thais started using it for trades workers under the name Yaba.
Bikers in USA and Australua and elsewhere swapped from old school speed to meth as the logistics of moving grams and points is much easier.
Myanmar switched from heroin to Ice production.
China gets addicted and has the world's largest consumption dwarfing USA, Australia, etc.
Ice is bad bad shit for you.
>>79580199
But it's not.
It's the highest consumer.
Most meth in China is made in Myanmar and smuggled across the border.
Myanmar is Asia' Mexico.
The Chinese are rightfully pissed off about this but are finding it impossible to stop the flow of meth into the country.
Shanghai and Beijing have real problems with it.
>>79585325
I've said multiple times that the use is NOT routine. Work on your reading comprehension...
>your definition
Nah, you're just putting words in my mouth. But feel free to keep telling me how I live my life.
>>79580751
Bulk of the meth in Australia comes from China. They literally have super labs pumping it out for $1,000 a kilo in a certain district. Forget what it's called, but government does fuck all about it.
>>79589584
Other than EXECUTING manufacturers.
But I believe it. I've bought molly analogues for 1.4 btc a kilo from Guangzou.
It's two problems and I don't think they're linked
We have a pretty massive underclass, and a class that is very slightly removed from the underclass but which has the same lack of morals
For some weird reason that underclass is very closely linked with Bikies. Even I was friends with a bunch of people connected to Bikies. If you know someone who knows Bikies, you know someone who can score you meth.
The second problem is that meth is also taken up by middle class people as well, and I've no idea why. One of the fanciest schools in my old city was renowned for having a huge meth problem.
>>79589725
Depends how much results those searching for it need, sure plenty of these factories kick back to the agencies.
Found an article of area I was looking for, for those interested to do some more research. China is the largest manufacturer and the precursor is legal.
>>79588271
get cancer
Here's some good reports regarding Myanmar targeting of China's huge demand for meth. The golden triangle famous for opium, switched to making meth mostly over a decade ago and has a production base the size of small European countries. It's arguably the world largest area of production.
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2013/s3824704.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2013/s3829889.htm
>>79589085
>Ice
oh fug, is that why all those rappers used to use ice in their names?
>>79590145
The Guangzhou region production is dwarfed by Myanmar. Myanmar is Aduas only true narcostate and like Mexico is a global supplier.
The Chinese figures gets fudged because Burmese made meth is lumped in with China's. China is however the world major distribution point.
And domestically China's habit is out of control. The PRC tries to keep a lid on it, but it's everywhere there.
>>79590521
No that is because Vanilla Ice was the greatest musician who ever lived.
>>79576237
>Why do abos have a crystal meth problem?
>Why do brown people have addiction problems?
>Why do niggers to nigger things?
Truly, questions for the ages.
>>79578103
>Taree
Anywhere north of Newcastle really?
>>79590899
checked
Niggers will always cause problems, that is why many civilizations took advantage of their stupidity and enslaved them.
>>79590521
That's just because they're 'ice cold'. It's just a reference to being cold, cool, calm, collected and such. Later on ice also became a reference to diamonds.
>>79576588
Its made in Australia. Drugs like cocaine are expensive because they are hard to smuggle in.
>>79590961
Yes. They sure love skating in country NSW
>>79576237
Because it's a country full of white trash. Same reason we have a meth problem in the south.
>>79590899
do abo's do meth?
seems too complicated for them.
i thought they stuck to huffing gas
>>79590899
No it isn't
Answer is simple
They are lower life forms therefore they performed the functions of lower life forms
They truly are like monkeys in the strictest sense, they can imitate what we do or teach them all day long but left alone they can't hold a single society together
>one of the highest rates of ADD diagnosis in the 90's
>those same medically sanctioned speed junkies are now enjoying the jump to meth
Big pharma did it again!
>>79590899
I've never heard of abbos doing any drugs.
They just drink alcohol / methylated spirits / petrol and huff petrol
AUSSIES EXPLAIN THIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jeWq5uLAI
they talk about indigenous people and all I see are white cunts
>>79591148
das raycis!!!!!
all in all seriousness though, if we just legalized weed, shrooms, LSD, salvia and DMT, we wouldn't have a meth problem.
>>79591596
Abbo genes surrender like the french from what I've heard.
And a lot of cunts pretend to be abbos to get extra welfare and free shit.
>>79591596
people pretend to be leftist because
a) you can get more welfare
b) you get preference in job applications
c) you get preference in university applications
d) some leftists think its "cool"
check out these indigenous people who just graduated from university :^)
>>79576237
Because everything fun is illegal.
Oh wait.
>>79590792
>And domestically China's habit is out of control.
Is there a good article on this?
With all the horrible shit about China I wouldn't be surprised they love meth/other drugs
>>79591596
>>79591918
>indigenous
>white people with a tiny drop of abo (not even confirmed)
hmmmmmmmmmm...really makes you think
>>79591232
Yes.
Most abos love weed and booze. Inland SA, NT huffing paint and Petrol.
Where meth has got in with abos it just takes over. Cairns has an abo meth problem, townsvilles is even worse. And like mentioned above Northern NSW to Central coast it's everywhere.
Down in Victoria meth is literally synonymous with abos.
Don't know about WA but noongas are naturally violent and angry shit talking cunts anyway so one on meth isn't a nice thought
>>79577045
> Cocaine hard to get in Australia
Faggot detected. Easy as fuck. Expensive as an hr with your mum
>>79592039
no source but I've heard this before, I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge
>>79592039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3mqwkgv_PQ
>>79577110
Jews import that shit.
>>79591918
>pretend to be indigenous
fixed
>>79592159
Cocaine is fucking shit though. Its not as potent as meth and doesn't last anywhere near as long, plus its more damaging to your health (losing your nose).
Oh and it's more expensive. Plebs take it because they see it in da m00vies
>>79584589
>prescribed
Because there are no guns for desperate junkies to pull on distributers.
>>79577035
Lack of crack cocaine here bruh.
Reality = your country is a litteral crack den.
>>79592039
Actually I read a great article (it's long) on this about a year ago. I'll try and find it online and post.
Basically summarised the way Thais have incorporated Yaba into the labour force China tried and it backfired massively due to the number of addicts the country has, I can't remember the number but it's estimated higher than Australia's population. It's estimated drug users in China is 10 times higher than official figures of 2.5 million mist if these are meth users.
So some estimates are 25 million users.
Also the Foreign correspondent links I posted above are worth a watch. They're great.
>>79592039
Oh yeah and also China is now growing a taste for morphine as people try to chemically balance out the meth in their systems.
I'll try and find this article.
>>79592783
this is turning into a better story than the time guam had all those rats and they introduced giant frogs that ate the rats and then the frogs went everywhere and they introduced tree snakes to eat the frogs and the tree snakes ate EVERYTHING and now when you drive down the road in guam at night you run over tree snakes constantly
>>79592890
Kek.
Here's a link to China's Walter White, sewage in the meth, and JACKIE Chans son getting pinched last year.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-05-25/china-s-growing-meth-addiction
>>79591102
Some of the meth comes from china and all over the place though too
>>79592039
I can't find the article about the UNODC report I read, this article references the same report just ignore its from VICE
https://news.vice.com/article/meth-trafficking-has-exploded-throughout-asia-despite-hardline-laws
>>79592039
Common knowledge that meth is the most popular drug in Asia. Even highest ranking drug in Japan over weed.
>>79576849
>adderall
>dollar a mg
You're getting ripped off. Really really bad.
Holy God I pity you.
>>79576237
>Why does Australia have such a huge crystal meth problem?
Because, why not? Name me 1 better thing.
Anyone know why adderall and amphetamines help with hangovers and alcohol withdrawal? I know it does but it never made sense to me why
>>79594395
uppers cancel downers
>>79594395
They help you retain water and cause your liver to release glucose.
>>79577110
This. We have dirt cheap weed and meth, but everything that needs to be imported is comparatively expensive because our need to keep bananas out (not a euphemism, we have drug dogs that sniff for fruit) has the side effect of making it hard to get other drugs in.
>>79577191
Why though? You can make meth cheaply and easily in a fucking bathtub.
>>79577789
Reminder for Seppos that Liberals are conservative over here and the Greens are the real liberal party. Labor (yes that's spelt wrong on purpose) is somewhere between them, being mildly leftist on many issues but happy to jump over to the right on others).
>>79594325
Jesus
>>79594622
>Why though? You can make meth cheaply and easily in a fucking bathtub.
Because getting the precursors in high supply is nearly impossible thanks to the DEA.
If you buy just one box of pseudo pills here, you go onto the list.
>all these drug addicts
the fuck? is /pol/ seriously the home for the bottom feeders of society?
>>79596239
Do you stick your head up your ass every time someone says recreational drugs are a huge problem around the world?
>>79576237
We just wanna have a good time, is all
>>79596358
youre pro drugs yet you vote trump wtf?
motherfucker, hitler wouldve hung you like he did kikes
you're just a target for du20
youre the degenerate of all degenerates
if you cant function normally in society without drugs just kys dumb nigger
>>79576237
Australians are all stressed out, depressed, and lonely. They are also poor and have bad internet, so there isn't much else they can do to vent or occupy themselves.
Australia is kind of like the Rust Belt.
>>79576339
I have done the shit in years but honestly, that's exactly what I thought when I saw the picture.
Fuck I hate being degenerate sometimes.
>>79576638
It smells like hairspray
>>79576237
Because Australia is a continent of white trash, paleoniggers, and asians who import the meth.
>>79593547
>Even highest ranking drug in Japan over weed.
I remember an anon here saying how the Japs are 'ok' with meth since it allows them to work harder/longer were as weed is heavily disliked due to stoners being lazy
>>79592039
>>79590792
I read somewhere meth is a big money maker for N. Korea regime.
>>79592277
Meth damages your brain permanently. Fucks up your dopamine system etc. Meth damages your nose too, and your heart, etc. Cocaine is healthier, everything bad it does to you meth does worse, plus some other shit like psychosis and all that.
Heroin on the other hand actually doesn't damage your health, its just the bad mixes, the lifestyle, etc that fuck you up.
>>79596491
Hitler bathed in methamphetamine.
Dumbass doesn't even know what he's on about.
Stimulants and psychedelics are the white man's drugs you fag.
Meth in controlled usage, meaning with specific rules you follow as to dosage and frequency of use, is fine.
The problem is that most people don't know how to acquire it from a quality source, test it for impurities, and most importantly, follow their own damn rules.
You do the drug, you don't let the drug do you.
>>79592159
That's what I said. Hard to get = high price, doesn't mean it's hard to distribute.
It's a rich mans drug down here, meth is a fuck tonne easier to acquire and so cheaper.
>>79576237
probably the same reason your country is full of feral niggers who destroy entire cities.
>>79576237
ever been to australia?
>>79597395
Is the meth in Australia actually causing a legit problem, or is it just the typical media and government whining because people are getting high?
>>79597395
faggot can't admit he was caught bullshitting. Hard to get != high price.
Meth is cheaper than cocaine everywhere. It's called the poor man's cocaine.
>>79597280
only niggers do drugs. they cant afford that shit they break into peoples houses
you're no better than a nigger, honest to god.
please hang yourself before you embarrass your race further
>>79594395
They increase the amount of dopamine flowing around in your brain, reducing the negative feelings associated with hangovers.
>>79597539
>only niggers do drugs
Only losers are straightedge, Ahmed.
Muhammad sucked dicks BTW. And Allah is a bottom bitch to Jesus.
>>79576237
>Why does Australia have such a huge crystal meth problem?
CRIMINAL FUCKING GENES
>>79577848
molly fucking sucks
last time i took it i couldn't even move and felt like shit
E with meth or fuck it, i'm just gonna do coke instead
Australia is full of tweakers.
>>79580187
What's coming down like?
>>79578116
Maybe if people could restrain themselves from glassing each other, then you could drink as much as you like.
>>79597025
Yes this is correct.
There's 2 full blown narco states in Asia.
Myanmar and North Korea.
N Korea is the second largest supplier to the Chinese market and works in with Myanmar to facilitate supply. No shit.
The biggest heroin bust in Australia's history was on a state run North Korean oil Tanker. It was a huge bust. The heroin found inside was from North Korea but originated in Myanmar.
The organised crime groups in Asia, aren't really in competition on a national Level and work cooperatively.
So you'll see things like Myanmar trading, illegal gems or drugs to N Korea for weaponry or foreign cash.
Countries like China, Taiwan, Singapore, Japan are caught in between these narco state organisations and it's why their laws are so strict towards importers, etc. Asian countries know if they relax their laws on drugs in any way a tsunami of drugs will wash over them the next day, it's not paranoia.
N Korea, and Myanmar are state run mega factories for drugs & slaves.
>>79597521
I ain't bullshitting friend, it's because 1) Australian customs are actually pretty good, especially when looking for plant produce. 2) New Zealand is irrelevant as fuck, so few incentives to import into the country when you can just as easily make the poor mans amphetamine here easier. 3) No easy land routes to producers. 4) Just straight up shipping costs to get it over here, can't drive it you know. All of these factors contribute to there being very little cocaine in our countries, meaning it's far more expensive than in the states, making it less accessible to most people and less commonly used than meth. And I'm not just talking about the powder, it's main competition in the US is crack, which we have very little of as well because of the scarcity of cocaine.
While you are right that scarcity =/= high price we still have enough demand to inflate the prices.
>>79597515
Both our countries bigger concerns seem to be that it makes Chinese gangs richer and it's usually brown people who use it, meaning everyone feels sorry for them and blame their shitty decisions on the predominantly white population.
>>79598226
Depends on how you take care of yourself. If you aren't eating enough, taking your vitamins and staying hydrated, you will feel like shit when you come down and enjoy some chemically induced depression for a day or so.
If you are doing the above properly and listening to your body and its' limits when using, the comedown is anywhere from minimal to actually pleasant. When I use and take care of myself properly, it's akin to the feeling of relaxing after a very hard day's work, that 'good' sort of tired rather than literal exhaustion.
>>79598595
>When I use and take care of myself properly, it's akin to the feeling of relaxing after a very hard day's work, that 'good' sort of tired rather than literal exhaustion.
I'm glad someone else said this.
If you did your stims right, the "crash" feels pretty nice.
