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Andrea Leadsom Makes Her Case To Be PM
https://audioboom.com/boos/4767097-listen-andrea-leadsom-makes-her-case-to-be-pm

>Telegraph asks Tory leadership candidates the same set of questions
http://archive.is/OFCvY

>Peter Brookes on Tory leadership race
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F4c87c320-3ef4-11e6->>a77d-3f49e917730f.jpg?crop=2727,1818,575,185&resize=758 (embed)

>Putin dares Britain to go through with Brexit. “We will see how their principles of democracy get realised in practice".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/putin-dares-britain-to-go-through-with-brexit/

>Tory leadership: Gove 'standing out of conviction not ambition'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36679741

>Corbyn to face challenge 'in days', says John McDonnell
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36680463
>meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjHMYNM46Fw
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>>79570268
Disgusting desu senpai
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>>79570268
DELET THIS
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>tfw brit/pol/ is on a downer
Post happy Karens to cheer yourselves up.
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>>79570268

that is revolting
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So is /r/The_Andrea brit/pol/ approved or what lads?

Also, what the fuck is this?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-draw-so-brexit-should-be-avoided-constitutional-expert-says-a7111431.html
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>>79570268
could've done without seeing that m8
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>>79570642
The high has worn off and now we've all realised it's only just begun. We thought we'd all be home for Christmas and now we're struggling to see an end.
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>>79570341
>>79570612
>>79570671
>>79570712
>>79570815

fpbp right mates?
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>>79570583
>she specifically endorsed Anthony Blair’s Iraq War policy
>Anthony Blair
>Anthony

Does the morality man have autism or something?
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How do you lads rate the new Peter (which, as always, should be in the OP)?

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/07/you-voted-for-a-revolution-you-got-a-blair-robot.html

>Having dug our way out of the dungeon, we find we have merely reached another dungeon, just as deep and just as dark.

Someone needs to introduce him to our saviour Andrea - the only hope for this country.

Also, http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/telegraph-pulled-article-critical-theresa-may-campaign-pressure/ should be in OP too.
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>>79570686
Referendums are likely unconstitutional, but then, so is giving away parliamentary power to a foreign nation, so we should probably undo the EU too
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>EU referendum was a 2-2 'draw' and UK exit will not happen, LSE professor says

Seriously, lads. This has me worried.
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>>79570886
Top lad.
First rate post of a second rate whore
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>>79570887
I assume he's just making a joke in the same vein as "call me dave"
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>>79570268
Jesus fucking christ almighty
>>79570642
It's because plebbitors are invading yet again.
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>>79570887
>>79570904

Sorry for moving me post for a wider audience matey.

Not sure why Peter doesn't like to call him Tony though. Autism isn't necessarily a bad thing though (pic related)
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>>79570964

I hope you do brexit and fuck the EU with a jolly roger and all that jazz, but it seems like something that probably isn't gonna happen. At least not in the next two or three years.
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>>79571170

Did you just call me a plebbitor m8?

I'll fookin' glass ya cunt.
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>>79571211
He could have made us great again
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>>79571263
I think he's on about the downies with (((breget)))

>>79571299
That speech was glorious. Why was it controversial again?
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>>79571299
Agreed. With all due respect to our Andrea, I was looking at the leadership candidates earlier and broke into tears thinking "why can't Enoch be here to guide us along the treacherous path ahead of us".
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Dark days with Holland ahead, i might have to do with other-world wines if his goes proxy-war.
#notallfrench
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>>79571463
>I think he's on about the downies with (((breget)))

Fucked if I understand your culture lads, but you're always welcome to drink some pissy beer with me.
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>>79570686
nobody cares about the indy but lebbit.
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>>79571667
cunt wasn't even that bad on QT.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36694598

>Caroline Aherne has died at the age of 52

F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiqxn3iOmxY
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>>79571479
You're not the only one overcome with crushing depression when you realise the perfect man to lead us out of Brexit died saying "I've been proven right"
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Lads, she's not as memeable as say Farage or Trump.

Will meme magic still work?
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The people responsible for introducing devolution in the UK should be taken to court for treason against our once proud nation. Devolution was introduced to appease to minority extremist groups, and most people didn't want it, with the exception of the Northern Ireland Assembly. Now that we've been forced to have devolution it has proven to be a complete disaster. Not only are the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament totally incompetent, the worst thing to come from devolution has been the widening of the divide between our nations. That divide was at first a mere crack, but has now split into gorge that leads directly to hell. As seen with the rise of the SNP this is completely irreversible, and as such the partition of our most sacred land inevitable.

Sorry lads, Britain is over. The dream has died and the roaring fire extinguished.
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>>79571787
F

>>79571876
It's painful that our recent history has been full of great politicians and only shit PMs. Was it always like this?
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anyone got any nigel pepes i can nab?
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>>79572090
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>>79571989
Devolution and arguments of it are seriously faltering now that there's no EU safety net for our failing friends in the north.
Especially since scotland is so leftist, it needs the UK, only an extremely right wing, but Britain friendly, party there could actually comfortably see out independence
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>>79571876
>mfw he died before I was born.
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>>79571463
>That speech was glorious. Why was it controversial again?
For the same reasons that Farage's poster was controversial (i.e. no good ones).

But, honestly, forget that speech. It is just a drop in the ocean of Enoch's work, most of which is far less "controversial". He is right about literally every issue, and his writings and speeches are prophecies which one is always shocked to realise weren't written this year, let along this century.
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>>79571766
That says little about him and a lot about the caliber of QT celebrity guests.
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>>79572399
Is there a good book about the man? I'd like to read about his political career.
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>>79571211
>Not sure why Peter doesn't like to call him Tony though.

Old, old meme.

It was used to taunt Tony Benn, whose real name was Anthony Wedgwood Benn (or Viscount Stansgate).
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>>79572525
Watch this

https://youtu.be/dc26aTCwyYM
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Guys I just met Boris Johnson at the fucking grocery store.

I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for NHS funding or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like three hundred fifty million pounds in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the freed up pound notes that would have gone to the EU and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any postal vote rigging,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a real thing. After she scanned each pound and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

Anyone else think he's gotten real unhinged since he decided not to run?
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>>79572604
I'll save it for tomorrow. Thanks.
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>>79572682

A FUCKING LEAF
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Who /lonely/ here?
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>>79572525
Heffer's 'Like the Roman' is the de facto official one, extremely extensive, and written with Powell's permission and cooperation.

The BBC documentary linked is definitely worth watching, but it's - unsurprisingly for the BBC - a misrepresentation in several ways. They have cornered him in his twilight years, when a lot of his power is gone, and tricked him into making some silly statements.
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>>79572857
You can see the BBC's agenda, but I still think he comes off as exceptionally charming. I redpilled my gf with that doc

>>79572796

Enoch on David Frost, he shines here and really shows the BBC up when they try and twist him into a corner
https://youtu.be/qdr96F5PfMg
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Any fool can break a taboo, and it’s gone for ever. In the same way, any fool can cut down a tree that has taken three centuries to grow. Later we find out what we have lost.
And I continue to wonder why there’s so little concern about the breach of the old taboo against public swearing. The singer Adele Adkins swore repeatedly on live TV, as she performed at Glastonbury last weekend. What effect will this have? Those of us who have already lived long enough to see the country transformed, and know that nothing that seems permanent will necessarily survive, are perhaps better able to imagine how far things might go.
Those who are relaxed about this might wonder how they will feel when they start hearing teachers using the f-word in class, nurses using four-letter words to patients, see the strongest words used without asterisks in newspaper headlines, or politicians using them in major speeches. This will happen. I wouldn’t be surprised if some future archbishop didn’t decide to pander to the spirit of the age by swearing from his or her pulpit.
Some may say they wouldn’t care. But that’s half the point. A thick-skinned society is also a callous society.
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>>79573095
Michael Fassbender should play him in the inevitable biopic.
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>>79573095
Oh, there's no doubt about that, and glad to hear it! Yes, you'd have to do a lot more than just wait for Enoch to age before you could take away the charm.

There's just something quite sad about seeing him so much weaker than in his glory days. But not enough that anybody should be put off watching what is otherwise quite a good documentary about a fascinating man.
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Lads I want to be like Morality Man. I agree with him on absolutely everything... except I'm an Atheist. How do I reconcile my Atheism with an adherence to Christian values?
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>>79573743
let the void fully have its way with you
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>>79573524
>There's just something quite sad about seeing him so much weaker than in his glory days.

I think it's fitting in his weakened state, he says "I see my self being proven right!"

It also brings a lot of humanity to a man that most see as a caricature, especially the scene where he's admiring the political cartoon of a whole street of Enochs and he has that back and forth with his wife, or when he's trying to teach his grandchild to say "ooooh" and she replies "I can't say ooh"
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>>79572398
>mfw a 5 year old can use the computer
Don't remind me of time's inevitable march at 4am, anon.
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>>79573743
Until you're ready to take the leap (back?) into the arms of our saviour Jesus Christ (which is definitely the recommended course of action), perhaps console yourself with the fact it doesn't actually matter if it's true - the fact is that these are values which built our society, and should be respect and upheld.

The "humanism" which atheists are trying to replace it with has done nothing but create a generation of degenerates (just like all left-wing experiments where people try to uproot a society and replace it based on things which they're sure will be good but have never worked in practice).
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>>79572857
I'm interested because I found myself utterly confused at the outrage of my classmates when the rivers of blood speech was played. I forget for what reason it was shown because the rest of the lesson was a heated argument. I was essentially alone, entirely so if it werent for one Indian girl who was pretty rational about it. Funny that. I wasn't even sure I agreed with everything he said at the time but I felt the need to defend it when everyone else dismissed it so offhandedly as groundless bigotry and racism.

I was more left leaning as you'd expect and I think it might be one of the moments that made me realise something wasn't right.

I need to stop blog posting but I've got no one else to talk to about this stuff so I'm venting.
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>>79574067
Blog post all you want, most of us went through the same thing with Enoch. He's one of those people that everyone hates and mocks because they've been told to hate and mock him. It's good that you can think critically
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>>79573231
This is something I've noticed. I've always sworn quite freely but I'm well aware of when it's inappropriate and when to change my tone. I think it's that which we've lost most of all. I don't think people are swearing more just that they seem to have no filter, they seem incapable of basic politeness at times.
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>>79574067
>>79574240

Agree (although I never actually had Rivers of Blood played in school?!)

Worth noting is that he ranked fairly highly on a "100 Greatest Britons" list (voted for by the public about a decade ago), and was widely supported at the time, so it's certainly not bizarre that we agree with him now his predictions have essentially all come true (a lot of people point to the "whip hand" line to deny this, which is actually a quote of somebody else - and arguably it's true anyway).

Now, the question of why people currently in or recently out of education overwhelmingly cannot think critically and disregard everything patriotic or British as bad or racist is a very interesting one (but perhaps not for this time of day!)
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>>79571989
people died because of this devolution. NHS Wales is even something to meme. Its just sad how beliefs trump lives.
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'nt
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>>79570642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60mLvBWOMb4
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Wonder who Marr gonna have on.
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>>79571989
>most people didn't want it,
Scotland said Yes in 1979 and Yes in 1997.

>totally incompetent
The Scottish Parliament has been remarkably competent since it deposed Scottish Labour. That's why Scotland retains free education despite budget cuts: It's far more in tune with what people actually want money spent on. It also allowed them to notice that prescription charges cost almost as much to administer in Scotland as they earned.

What happened in Scotland was inevitable thanks to the internal politics of the Labour party. If anything, devolution merely delayed it.

Wales is the true tragedy of Devolution, at least thusfar. Wales is how Labour imagined devolution should play out: Permanent, incompetent Labour fiefdoms. Scotland is quite possibly the best-case scenario of devolution.
Enoch Powell was against devolution, but he did say that if Scotland and Wales felt distinct then they should be independent. Enoch Powell.
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>>79574067
It's honestly fascinating how overblown the speech really is.

Even Michael Foot conceded it was a tragedy that such a great personality became inseparably associated with something he didn't even say. (i.e. the popular idea it was predicting rivers of blood in the streets, as opposed to just conveying a sense of deep foreboding.)
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>>79576008
>Scotland said Yes in 1979 and Yes in 1997.

That referendum was a meme that noone took seriously. The Scots only voted it for it for a laff. NO ONE was screaming for it.

>The Scottish Parliament has been remarkably competent since it deposed Scottish Labour.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>79576257
Pretty much the entire speech is quotes from other people, he did later say he wished he had said the quote in Latin to make it more obvious, but the media was going to spin it either way
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>you will never leave some cum in leadsom's tum tum
Why live, lads?
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>>79576008
>Scotland
>not 3rd world
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>>79573095
Watching this it dawns on me that most people wouldn't even be able to sit through the casual use of the word "coloured".
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>>79576008
>Scotland said Yes in 1979 and Yes in 1997.

Also Wales voted yes in 1997 and voted for more devolved powers in 2011
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>>79576257
I don't understand this "it doesn't matter if you're quoting someone" meme. If Corbyn came out and said "one of my constituents just said hang everyone that makes over £20,000 a year, haha!" He'd be rightly torn the shreds.
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>>79573095
Frost was the original kike. That's where it all started to go wrong.
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>>79577294
Because they took the quote out of context, he meant that their was a sense of dread coming but they made out as if he said "I shall make the streets run with immigrant blood!"
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>>79576375
>The Scots only voted it for it for a laff
I'm sure you've got a ton of studies demonstrating that satisfaction with Holyrood is far lower than with Westminster, and that people regret voting Yes/Yes in 1997. After all, it just wouldn't be doing to make claims like that without verifying them.

>NO ONE was screaming for it.
How strongly are we defining "screaming"? It was definitely an important policy issue.

>HAHA
Great reply. This constitutes reams and reams of evidence that Holyrood has failed to govern effectively, and clearly shows that in every measurable way Holyrood has made things worse since 1997 and since 2007. Furthermore, in areas where things did get measurably worse after 2008, this is clearly the fault of Holyrood itself and nothing to do with outside factors such as a global financial crisis.

>>79576565
This graph is a nightmare to follow.
Nonetheless, it doesn't exactly tell the tale the papers would have you believe - that since 2011 Scots die at 20 on average, murdered by gangs of SNP Stasi thugs...
>>79577294
He wasn't quoting someone saying "The streets will be filled with rivers of blood as a result of the upcoming race-war" though. His actual words were "As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'"

That's it. A reference to Aeneid. That's the thing he's notable for. Nobody gets into the actual bit where he mentioned a constituent who didn't want any darkies using her phone or to let out a room to non-whites, it's all rivers of blood, rivers of blood, rivers of blood.
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>>79577560
How so? Show me an example of this in a newspaper or something.
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Corbyn must feel like absolute shit staying on and going into parliament when nearly all of his MPs openly hate and resent him.
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>I'm sure you've got a ton of studies demonstrating that satisfaction with Holyrood is far lower than with Westminster, and that people regret voting Yes/Yes in 1997. After all, it just wouldn't be doing to make claims like that without verifying them.

The reason why the Jocks have more satisfaction with Holyrood is because the suffer from delusions and mental retardation on a national scale. It's only about hating England now. That's why they like the Eu but not the UK. Idiocy pure and simple.
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>>79576565
I think the divide is class more than nationality. Rich Scots are still gonna live longer than poor Englishmen
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>>79577756
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Enoch_Powell is actually rather enlightening, although it doesn't directly answer your question.

>...when the empire dissolved...the people of Britain suffered from a kind of vertigo: they could not believe that they were standing upright, and reached out for something to clutch. It seemed axiomatic that economically, as well as politically, they must be part of something bigger, though the deduction was as unfounded as the premise. So some cried: 'Revive the Commonwealth'. And others cried: 'Let's go in with America into a North Atlantic Free Trade Area'. Yet others again cried: 'We have to go into Europe: there's no real alternative'. In a sense they were right: there is no alternative grouping. In a more important sense they were wrong: there is no need for joining anything. A Britain which is ready to exchange goods, services and capital as freely as it can with the rest of the world is neither isolated nor isolationist. It is not, in the sneering phrases of Chamberlain's day, 'Little England'...The Community is not a free trade area, which is what Britain, with a correct instinct, tried vainly to convert it into, or combine it into, in 1957-60. For long afterwards indeed many Britons continued to cherish the delusion that it really was a glorified free trade area and would turn out to be nothing more. On the contrary the Community is, what its name declares, a prospective economic unit. But an economic unit is not defined by economics – there are no natural economic units – it is defined by politics. What we call an economic unit is really a political unit viewed in its economic aspect: the unit is political.

>>79578047
I hope he's enjoying it as much as I am. His MPs are, for the most part, Blairite scum. The hate should be reciprocal.
He just has to hold on until Chilcot. It's no surprise they're desperately trying to create a distraction.
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>>79577756
Actual quote
>As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood."

It is now known as "the rivers of blood speech", the implication is clear as day

If you watch the Frost interview you can see for your self a contemporary source where Frost repeatedly tries to make Powell admit regretting saying it
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>>79576565

They have a deficit 3 times the entire UK. They are on their way to being a 3rd world country.
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>>79578210
I don't know, maybe it's just me but I've never taken the term "rivers of blood" to mean rivers of immigrant blood running through the streets of Britain, one would have to be quite simple to view a well spoken politician as a KKKaboo.
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What's the most controversial thing the Morality Man has written? He mostly seems to stay within the comfy position of "almost everything is not as good as it should be but nothing is terrible."
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>>79578521
That the EU was started as a CIA project.
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>Leave wins
>hometown Ipswich voted leave, even my leftist family
>Visit this weekend
>town center
>large pig statues everywhere
I have no idea what all the pigs are about but if they're designed to scare off mudslimes I'm very proud and I can't wait to leave this shit hole London
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>>79578505
Not eveybody takes the time to listen to speeches or read full articles, all they know is that their was an old Racist politician called Enoch Powell (Probably heard of him from Russell Brand) who once said something about immigrants and rivers of blood
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>>79578095
Scotland's notional deficit if independent is absolutely nothing to do with Holyrood, and is largely down to the decline in Oil revenue (administered, like income tax in 2015, by Westminster.)

Holyrood is given an essentially fixed budget to allocate as it pleases (it now controls income tax, or will do so shortly, with a consequential cut in central funding, but it cannot realistically alter the rates within the union. That would be silly.), the high deficit is not "Holyrood overspending" in the slightest. If anything, it is Westminster controlled spending which is unreasonably high to yield that deficit (as Scotland is assigned a population share of defence, for example.)

Similarly, in 2012 Scotland outperforming the rest of the UK in deficit terms wasn't the result of Holyrood prudence, but as a result of outside factors over which Holyrood lacked control.

>is because the suffer from delusions and mental retardation on a national scale
Yes, the institution that demonstrated that it was capable of reallocating spending towards things people actually cared about, and cutting down on the use of ruinously expensive PFI projects is only well liked because Scotland is crazy.

>That's why they like the Eu but not the UK
They voted to stay in the UK. The margin is still narrow for independence in polling.

If we were to boil down the two primary issues of the EU campaign, it is very easy to see why Scotland were apathetic pro-EU:
1. Immigration: Scotland sees far less of it, and has traditionally had an emigration problem. The largest non-Scottish group in Scotland is other Britons. Scotland is 95+% white.
2. Sovereignty. Scotland just rejected sovereignty in a more exciting referendum. If she wants it back, the bigger drain on it is most certainly Westminster. That is why WMcan leave the EU of it's own accord while Holyrood must ask Westminster's permission for a referendum.

Also, Scotland had held 4 votes in short order and people were getting fatigued.
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>>79578876
You know what I'm just going to admit to you on this anonymous internet board that you beat me. I'm tired and memeing so I lost. Now fuck off and die.
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>>79578600
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3555820/PETER-HITCHENS-America-isn-t-special-friend-ruined-Navy-Empire-future.html

MFW it's actually real, found a few blogs/articles he's written claiming the CIA are involved in the EU.
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>>79574067

We all have those watershed moments.

I remember watching the Nick Griffin QT and it just revealed that the mob was as ugly and stupid as the supposed racists they were meant to be superior to.

If Nick Griffin's views were so obviously wrong, they could be debated fairly in a political environment and deemed unsatisfactory by the audience, but apparently this wasn't to be permitted to happen at any point. And obviously he's a bit of a tit, but why did that have to be told to me, and not shown?

It's that feeling of "something isn't right here" that breaks the conditioning. You never place it until long afterwards.
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>>79578876
>Also, Scotland had held 4 votes in short order and people were getting fatigued.

Jesus, I know you guys have a lot of health problems up there but I didn't think leaving the house 4 times in 2 years would do you in
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>>79578876
It's still a shithole absolutely dependent on the Barnett Formula to survive with possibly the most unfriendly, annoying and arrogant people outside of France.
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>>79579113
praise jesus
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>>79578775
Are they all decorated differently? That's been a thing all over the place recently. I've seen pigs, donkeys and here we had wyverns.
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>>79579113
>Holy See (Vatican City State)
Dude what?
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>>79579460
>he's never been in a pope poster thread
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>>79579446
Liverpool here, we have loads of randomly decorated cows

At least that's what I think they are
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>>79578775

Something I quite enjoy about us humans is that we like making effigies of other creatures and then occasionally, distributing them around our town centres.

And why?

Because why not?
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>>79579209
I vaguely remember seeing that and thinking it was a bit pointless having him on just to be used as a punching bag. It was probably hard to avoid with the audience but the rest of them could have done less to encourage it.

And im not a BNP supporter and was further from it then.
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>>79579657
I've seen cows, yes. Actual cow looking though and not those alien things. I'm fairly certain I saw sheep in Wales but I may just be assuming it.
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>>79579657
So this is why you keep winning European Culture City or whatever it is. A bunch of useless, meaningless shiny shiny to distract from your purely unpleasant community and pander to modern art loving retards?
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>>79579113
PAPISTS OUT
ULSTER IS BRITISH
WE ARE THE PEOPLE
*ahem*
Your Holiness.

Hitchens has a point. America really aren't our friends. It's one of the most important things post-Brexit Britain has to learn. We have a lot of mutual interest with America, but they're acquaintances at best.

>>79579244
Smirked.
Leaving the house is easy, how else would you get to the pub?
No, the problem is leaving the pub to go and vote. First time it's all YES, Independence!.. Then you've at least got spite to carry you to oust Labour. After that you've kind of got to vote at Holyrood, by which point you really can't be fucked anymore. But you do it, and just as you're getting ready to settle down with your drink, some bloke comes up on the telly and says you've got to go out and vote on Europe. Well fuck it, Naw.

>>79579209
It must be said that they didn't really plan that episode very well.

I would put it down more to sheer incompetence than anything else, though. Like someone wanted to be a bit edgy by including Nick (or hey, maybe they were just being fair) and then all those on the show couldn't resist the chance to jump on him and make it "The BNP episode" instead of "The episode where the BNP happened to be on it."
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>>79579657
Come to think of it that might just be what some inner city Liverpudlian thought cows looked like.
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>>79579830
Possibly, I'm not from here
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>>79579657

we do bears and eagles here
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>>79580170
This is one of those odd things that everyone seems to do but nobody quite knows why, isn't it? It's like those YouTube toy channels all over again.
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>>79570866
I tried to tell you
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>>79579209
I don't believe in these "redpills" and "watershed moments", I have had the same political opinions since birth. They have always been pragmatic and basic but I've always had them.

I'll give you an example, when I was 6 years old our class were asked what should be done about the elderly when they need care, one by one the rest od the children said things like "they should be looked after" and "we should care for them until they get better and other such things.

Then my moment arrived, I got onto the stage, all the students were sat listening and all the teachers off to the side and I was asked what should be done with the sick elderly people and I very level headedly said "They should be given a pill that makes them die." and the entire room gasped, until the teacher sheepishly said "He didn't understand the queation, ask him again, slower." And I said "At such a point as the elderly are no longer useful and become a burden to their families to look after they should kill themselves."

I was taken to a psychiatrist after that, and after about a month they told my parents I hadn't developed "cognitive social understanding" and that I'd be fine in a year or two.
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>>79580170
>bear
>painted with killer whales

What... Why?
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>>79580400

the thing I read about them said it started in zurich and blew up from there
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>>79580478
I sort of agree with you. I think it's just a capacity to think critically or in a certain way perhaps. These moments are more points at which you become more aware... I definitely understand the feeling of it having always been present to some degree.
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>>79578521
This is all almost totally wrong

Some things that Brit/pol/ especially disagrees with would be;

>Addiction doesn't exist

>Dyslexia and ADHD don't exist and are used as excuses to not bother teaching children properly / drug our children into conformity respectively

>Islam is not the main cause of mass shootings, drug-caused mental health issues are (He goes on to point out that practically every shooter in the last five years, especially Paki ones, have ended up having a long history of drug use and that their families said they "changed" after starting to take them)

>America is NOT our ally, quite the opposite

>Sex education is propaganda for promiscuity

>UKIP is a Thatcherite outfit and unfit to replace the Conservative Party as a conservative party when the time comes for it to die

There are probably more but I can't think of them right now

There are loads and loads of opinions he has that are fiercely challenged rather than just saying "things are a bit bad". Brit/pol/ libertarians' piss would boil especially hearing some of them, and I'm quite sure the one about Islam -alone- not being the main cause of mass shootings by lone gunmen is bound to annoy most people here that haven't looked into it
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>>79580651
I wish I could delete this. I really should have read the whole post.
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>>79580804
Top kek. Enjoy the Maywagon, roomy.
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>>79580400
Cows in Shepparton
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>>79580799
But America isn't our Ally, they've destroyed our Empire and their over production has destroyed the global economy to such a degree that they need constant war to keep it afloat
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>>79580799
>America is NOT our ally, quite the opposite
I think we agree with that and some of the others to a certain degree. We have common interests with the US but they're not to be considered unconditional allies in every matter.
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>>79580799
>America is NOT our ally, quite the opposite
But this is true in many ways.

America had nothing but loathing for our empire. America tried to screw over our independent nuclear deterrent by cancelling the Skybolt missile system. (People make a big deal out of them giving us Polaris, a better system, when we told them no matter what America did we'd maintain a deterrent, but that's not the point. The point is, they tried to screw us over and that should never be forgotten.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nassau_Agreement#American_concerns
Read this and then tell me America is a place we should have any trust for whatsoever. They gave us Polaris, yes, but they did it because they knew the game was up and that leaving us dependent on them for missiles was better than having us move to complete independence.
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>>79581157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__cYe_18Udg

RIP
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>>79580948
I'm destined for that regardless. I've been here too long. They have everything they need on a hard drive somewhere in GCHQ I'm sure.
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>>79581157
>>79581186
>>79581272
Yes, I agree, but the fact is that a lot of Brit/pol/ (and the sizeable amount of Americans that now lurk here, popping up every now and then to ask retarded questions - See pic related) consider us "bros", and would jump for joy at the idea of a Trump presidency because he says we'd be working closely together.

The point I was trying to make has been dampened somewhat by there being three replies in a row agreeing with it, but I swear to you, we're in a minority here, and most British posters here love the so-called "Special Relationship"
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Forgot pic
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>>79581419
>>79581356
If only we'd nuked Japan first or atleast reclaimed the Suez canal.
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>>79581356
Maybe it's only true redpilled that browse at 0530 am
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>>79581419
>Blair
>Conservative politician
I like when people get things so right. But they're doing it because they're actually incredibly wrong, not because they understand *why* what they say is right.
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>>79581704
I'm sure the Germans have a word for that if we ask them.
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>>79581704
He's not really conservative in any sense. His economic policies were liberal and his social policies were suicidal.
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>>79581788
Bugger. Is it too late to get on the #RemainTrain?
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>>79581942
You'd think so, but no.
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>>79572604
If 4chan existed when he was at Cambridge he'd be posting on brit/pol/ I'm sure of it.
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>>79581850
He's right of Corbyn, that makes him a full on Tory
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>>79581419
It's funny how hard you get trolled by Americans. They ask a legitimate question about another country's politics and you just spew autism in their direction. I preferred the thread where you got so blatantly trolled you actually left brit/pol/ for a few hours because the entire thread mocked you. Such is the life of someone without anonymity I guess. I'd take 100s of those Americans over a single tripfag.
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>>79581994
>FUCK OFF TRIPFAG ALL YOU DO IS POST RETARDED POEMS ABOUT YOUR WHITE HOT VOLCANO

he might have given up on us
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>>79582069
>anonimity
>on /pol/
*tips (ID: F0NlDQ9Q)*
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>>79582204
2 seconds let me reply to myself
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>>79572212
He's on much coke, he's trying to concentrate on not dying.

What a time to be alive.
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>>79582204
>>79582315
Oh look ids mean fuck all
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/pol/, I've just listened to Andrea's case to be PM and she sounds fucking perfect. If she's pulling a ruse then you can count me as completely tricked.

I just have one thing to ask you guys, since you're far more well versed on this shit than me,

What chance does she have of winning? Realistically.
Is it decent or what?

I sure hope she wins.
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>>79582069
central african republic

neat
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>>79582589
She's the big underdog to Theresa May
Peter Hitchens considers it a done deal that Theresa will be PM, he didn't even mention Andrea in his blog
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>>79582589
I think May is a done deal despite how disagreeable I find it.
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>>79582669
Fuck sake.
Give it to me straight, is Theresa going to fuck everything up, or is she still okay?
I don't know too much about her but I doubt she's as top tier as Andrea.
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>>79582069
R A R E
A
R
E
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So Morality Man has come out against May.
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>>79582833
She really shouldn't have offered him a drag.
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>>79581850
The nature of his governance of the party was more Conservative than Labour. People make a big deal out of him giving us the minimum wage, or higher health spending, as though that's justification for not re-nationalizing British rail (especially after the Railtrack debacle), creating his "New Deal" on Welfare, or making aggressive use of PFI even when it wasn't necessary (see below). That's before we get into the utter waste of time that was Iraq (even if you were for the war, the USA recognized they didn't need us to pull it off.) and the bonfire of civil liberties that followed. Or the fact he massacred voter turnouts.

I suppose a problem with the line of attack is that Blair's toxic influence seeped into the Conservatives just as much as it did into Labour, because I'm having trouble articulating what is essentially along the lines of trying to compare two very different things. (i.e. "The Republicans are the American Tory party" type analogy. Blair is Labour's Tory.)

I'm going to commit a cardinal sin here and link to a Scottish Nationalist site, because it really does underline just how bloody awful New Labour's market fetish was:
http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-something-for-nothing-country/
http://wingsoverscotland.com/probably-a-robbery/
>A Labour council, operating under a Labour Scottish Executive and a Labour government at Westminster, needed to spend £150m on its schools, but rather than use a small fraction of the effectively free money that was sitting around unspent in the Executive’s coffers, signed off on a PFI contract that would cost Scottish taxpayers £729m to do the exact same job.

I really wish I was more awake. I have far more in-depth criticisms of New Labour than the relatively tired "not radical enough" and "What the fuck were you thinking with PFI oh my god why." but they're just not coming to mind right now.

Oh well. 3 days until Chilcot. Hopefully he'll catch a lot of flak for that.
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>>79582761
She over saw one of the largest waves of immigration to the UK
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>>79582761
She over saw one of the largest waves of immigration to the UK and she was a (quiet) remainian
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HuffPo spergs out about racism

Post-Brexit result, Lefties basically started sharing the website page where you can report racism, so reports of racism went up. And now the Lefties can all write about it.
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>>79582918
It's 6am you get a pass.
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>>79582761
>is Theresa going to fuck everything up
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>>79583069
>Idea of Englishness has become predominantly white and Christian
>Become
Hasn't it always been this way? I recall reading that non-white groups tend to identify predominantly as "British", whereas the white ones are more likely to take on a national identity (i.e. Scottish, English, Welsh, [Northern] Irish.)
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>>79583069
(((Racism Expert)))
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>>79583013
>>79583052
>>79583155


For fuck sake
This is bullshit to be honest. Somebody who was pro remain just straight up shouldn't have had the opportunity to win this shit.

We clearly need somebody who is Pro-Leave.

Well shit. Gonna go to bed pissed off now.
Maybe kek will give us another miracle and have Andrea win.
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>>79572604
They were saying the exact things then that we're saying now. Then it was 50,000 now it's 300,000 (a low ball est.) NET.

My god.
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>>79583231
>Maybe kek will give us another miracle and have Andrea win.
I fear we've expended all our meme magic on the referendum itself and Corbyn's Blairite slaughter
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>20,000 British people died on the first day of the Battle of the Somme

That is fucking mental.
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>>79583423
It's more like 57,000

I think the French lost around 25,000 in their first battle of the war because they thought they where still Napoleonic
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>>79583423
>>79583603
Oh may bad, 57,000 casualties not deaths... I'm on night shift
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is there no hope that may backing remain, when that was the exact reason cameron stepped down, will torpedo her eventually? like once her leave opponents start really grilling her about it?
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>>79570268
I literally threw up

Not gonna browse Brit/pol/ while drunk ever again
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L O N E L Y H E R O
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>>79583231
>She is completely anti-democratic
>She wants complete power to monitor everything
>She loves the super strict gun laws we have here, so much as telling other Euro nations to have the same
>She appears to have no intent on combating the troublesome Muslims.

Woman is a cunt, and completely destroys the fucking point why we wanted to leave the EU in the first place, it should be a pro-leave contenders only, the people voted leave ffs.
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>>79583327
I would have swapped the Blairite purge for le big breasted conservative Conservative.
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>>79583806
Anything is possible at the moment.
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>>79584055
Meme magic is infinite if you believe hard enough
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>UK was 92% white in 2001
>UK was 87% white in 2011
>UK will be A LOT darker in 2021
How is this not genocide?
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>Owen Jones at the March For Europe Rally: "It's not about Leave vs Remain, it's about Unity"
>The point of the rally was literally just to be butthurt about the result and call for it to be overturned by any means possible

Fucking cockroaches
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>>79583654
Security?

I've just not slept all night, work in an hour.
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>>79583654
>>79584541
Is night-shift security as comfy a job for lazy people as it's made out to be?
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>>79584541
Yep
>>79584612
Literally just warm a chair for 12 hours and the people I work with are the biggest group of morons you can imagine. I'm here because I bought the "get a trade from the army" meme.

I'm starting an open uni course in October because this job is killing me off, I worked 250hr last month and I make about 1.4k. Fuck the dole though
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We've had the same headlines for about 2 days so I drafted up some new ones

>TORY LEADERSHIP ELECTION: SENIOR MPS PLANNING ON FORCING CRABB INTO SECOND PLACE AND THEN CONVINCING HIM TO LET THERESA MAY RUN UNOPPOSED
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/senior-tories-plotting-bring-quick-end-leadership-contest/

>TRAITOR CARSWELL "COULD BE SACKED BY MONDAY"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukips-only-mp-could-be-sacked-by-monday-says-party-leader-nigel-farage-a7114526.html

>SCARED ANGELA EAGLE: "C-CORBYN PLEASE QUIT"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36693835

>CORBYN: "I'M STILL NOT LEAVING YOU KNOW"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36696712

>BASED LEADSOM: "I'M NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED INTO STANDING DOWN FOR MAY"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/02/andrea-leadsom-i-can-be-the-new-margaret-thatcher/

>LEAVE.EU BACKS LEADSOM FOR TORY LEADER
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-s-leave-campaign-back-andrea-leadsom-for-tory-leader/story-29466185-detail/story.html

>MORALITY MAN'S SUNDAY ARTICLES
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/
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>>79585206
Just make the new thread when it's time, you bloody poof.
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>>79583879
Corbyn really is lovable just for how angry he gets the Blairites.

Or at least he would be, if it didn't end up making me angry when they say "He's unelectable" as though Prime Minister Angela Eagle is a realistic concept. "He's unelectable" is only a valid criticism when someone electable is actually in the party, and they have nobody.

I've remembered one of my big criticisms of Blairites now: They literally killed the Labour party. No memes about it.

Scotland is a microcosm of the coming (in some ways, already arrived) storm. Blairism was built on the key assumption that Scotland, the north of England, and Wales had nowhere else to go. That left Labour free to go for middle-class marginal seats, and to try some jiggerypokery with immigration to import voters in demographics that favoured them.

That situation no longer exists. Scotland have already shown Labour what they think of "Nowhere else to go :^), the North and Wales are making slow moves towards UKIP instead, amusingly in part because they don't like the people Labour allowed to emigrate here. Instead of solidifying Labour by adding to their vote base, they actively weakened it because now they can't afford to lose the immigrant vote, but by holding onto it they push away the C2DE white vote.

Tony Blair won elections, but he lost the Labour party, perhaps forever.
Still, his supporters sing: He won elections! He caused a 10% drop in voter turnout, but he won elections! he bled votes from the Labour party (peak in 1992 in raw numbers), but he won elections! He oversaw massive loss of faith in the political class, but he won elections! He lost Scotland to the SNP, possibly causing the end of the UK itself, but he won elections! He left the Labour party nearly bankrupt, devoid of talent and lacking public trust, but lordy-lord he won 3 elections!

Harold Wilson won 4.
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>>79585327
It will be some time, I thought some of the articles - especially Leadsom's - were worth sharing now
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>>79585206
>TORY LEADERSHIP ELECTION: SENIOR MPS PLANNING ON FORCING CRABB INTO SECOND PLACE AND THEN CONVINCING HIM TO LET THERESA MAY RUN UNOPPOSED

Was Brexit a mistake?
Did we just meme May into power?
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>>79586321
[REDACTED] isn't it?
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>>79586321
If Dave really wanted us to stay in Europe, he should've promised PM May in the event of a Brexit vote.

I can honestly think of no concept that troubles me more. I feel my civil liberties would be safer in the hands of Tony Blair than her, for goodness sake.
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>>79586544
>civil liberties
>britain
You do know that literally carrying a spoon for self defence is unironically illegal, right? It's classed as an offensive weapon that you premeditatedly intended to use, as are all "self defence" items.
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>>79586544
>If Dave really wanted us to stay in Europe, he should've promised PM May in the event of a Brexit vote
That would have been too obvious
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>>79586714
Who do we have to thank for that?

Some entirely unrelated music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWfE4DAyao
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>>79570686
All hail mummy andi
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>>79585331
What's C2DE?
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>>79587002
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRS_social_grade#The_grades
Basically, it's social class quantified in numbers.
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>>79587109
I see, thanks.
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>Parliament could stop Brexit – but they lack the courage to do so

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/parliament-could-stop-brexit-but-they-lack-the-courage-to-do-so-a7115351.html
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>>79587233
>but they lack the courage to do so
Give them time to try and frighten people enough first
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>>79586872
Unironically Winston Churchill.

Prevention of Crime Act 1953
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/1-2/14

Churchill was in power at the time.
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>>79587283
They would see the tories never win an election again in our lifetimes
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>>79587300
Very interesting, although I'm interested if the particular hyperbolic example of the spoon is of more modern origin (or indeed, if it is just speculation on the basis of the letter of the law.)
>>79587471
Who would they lose to?
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>>79587618
You would never actually be arrested for carrying a spoon unless you tried to scoop out an officer's eyeball, but the fact that is legitimately a law in this county and has been for more than 60 years is disgraceful.
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>>79587471
You'd think, wouldn't you? But their voters proved in 2015 that they're gibbering retards and that the power of money and slandering Labour is strong enough to propel them into a majority easily, so no, they could do it without a care

And before "muh backbench rebellion", no, if they've been willing to put up with everything until now without defecting, they'll carry on being shat on without any defection or revolt
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When are the brexit faggots going to get out there and kick the shit out of the anti-democracy remain cunts?
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>>79587726
>And before "muh backbench rebellion", no, if they've been willing to put up with everything until now without defecting, they'll carry on being shat on without any defection or revolt

Not unlike the British public itseld.
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>>79587798
Exactly

>>79587786
Many of them won't even be here in 10 years, it's just a matter of playing the waiting game for Remain to win and they know it
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>>79587233
>The next election will take place in 2020 unless one of options provided in the 2011 legislation takes place.
Could one not just repeal the 2011 legislation?
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>>79587726
UKIP is a legitimate 3rd party, both main parties have an issue with defection. If they overturned democracy they would see people flock to UKIP in droves, the reason Cameron agreed to the Referendum was to prevent that
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>>79587992
Sorry, I mean voter defection, not back benchers
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>>79587786
>brexit faggots going to get out there
Brexiteers are norimal people, with jobs and families.

The only ones with time on their hands to have silly protest marches are single mums and students.

Brexiteers don't have to do anything, onec the Remainers run out of tears and accept they lost, it will all settle down.
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Why is brit/pol/ full of Carswelite cuxks who hate the BNP?
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>>79588017
To be fair, back-benchers is also a legitimate point.

It is a wonderful Irony that David Cameron decided to roleplay Harold Wilson and fell flat on his face, disuniting his party and accidentally leaving Europe. But then Labour had to go and stage a coup to distract the press from how amusing the Conservative failure was.
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>>79588118
Fascism has never done as well in Britain as it has on the continent and the BNP poisoned conservatism in Britain for a long time, UKIP still struggles to undo it to this day

I mean, good fucking luck calling me of all people a Carswellite, but I'm not too fond of them either, they were never going to get the much-needed support of the elderly who (not too incorrectly) associated them with Nazism

Not to mention the fact that the Party itself was a power-grabbing shambles filled with a bunch of people going around accusing each other of being Jews
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>>79588486
wtf i hate nationalism now

The BNP didn't poison conservatism, knock knock did. The British public have always had a crazy state of affairs where the working class are all racist as hell but try not to be so as to "act posh" like their "betters" in the 100% white gated communities.

The BNP were our first good party since Mosley. UKIP say they like the NHS because they're populists but them, being Thatcherites, hate both the poor and the NHS.
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>>79588844
Mosley was a traitor and a federalist
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>>79588844
Mosley started strong, but quickly sold out to anti-Semites to appeal to his "fan base", and as such lost legitimacy.

>>79588940
I wouldn't call him a traitor, he saw the First World War first hand and wished it too never happen again, he just lost his way once it went to his head
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>>79588940
Had Mosley gotten power we would still be a superpower today.
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>>79589066
I doubt that, national unity would have been all over the place, Most of the commonwealth would have tried to defect
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Real talk. What happens if article 50 doesn't get triggered?

I've heard the army is strongly pro-Brexit.
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>>79589062
You some sort of Jew apologist, me lad?

>>79589186
How so? If anything the commonwealth would rally round a strong leader. Plus, without wsr we'd have remained prosperous.
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>>79589393
These cucky fantasies of there ever being some sort of Brexit revolution are cringeworthy Pedochan-tier ramblings

Nothing will happen if it doesn't get triggered
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>>79589393
Maybe the brass, most squaddies are extremely apolitical and are barley motivated enough to get out of bed
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>>79589393
Presumably we just don't start negotiations. Whether Europe want to maintain the status quo is doubtful, however. (Especially given a Norway-style EEA option is open and allows politicians to technically comply with the wishes of the people to leave the EU.)
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>>79589563
>most squaddies are extremely apolitical and are barley motivated enough to get out of bed
You don't join the fucking British Army unless you are
1. Supportive of Britain.
2. Happy to put some effort in.
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>>79589472
Anti-semitism is cancer for any political party if it wishes to be taken seriously in Great Britain. You've been on /pol/ too long

Fascism isn't popular in Anglo nations, Nations such as Canada and Australia would not be happy with a leader removing democracy and following Mussolini around like a lap dog, who would have surely brought us into a war if not directly, at least ideologically.

Mosley also noted that the biggest threat to global economy is American over production, the only reason we haven't had a biblical scale economic crash is because the United States have managed to keep constant war around the globe. How would Mosley deal with that especially while ideologically opposed to the US?
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>>79589736
6 years served mate
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>>79589989
Pre 1940 anti-semitism was extremely popular world wide.
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>>79590131
We don't live in pre 1940 anymore dipshit
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>>79590131
We actually turned loads away, in fact if memory serves me correctly we turned away massive ships full of Jewish Refugees.
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>>79589736
>1. Supportive of Britain.
That doesn't necessarily immediately mean supportive of Brexit.

Say what you will of most remainers, they didn't do it because they hate Britain, but because they differed in their analysis of what was best for it.
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>>79589736
I don't know, I once knew some Edinburgh twat applying for Sandhurst while spouting that the Falklands should be given back to Argentina.

Hopefully he never got in.
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>>79590029
>recruits aren't political
>yes they are
>no i no there not coz i was there
>is currently on brit/pol/
Did you ever show your power level to your comrades? They could all have felt the dame as you.
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>>79590131
I'm starting to think you may be an idiot, we had a strong Jewish community in the country since Cromwell
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>>79570642
Feels good to feel sorry for yourself. It's easier to just accept the countries fucked than to get up and fight for it.
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>>79590131
>Year 1940
>"Daily Mail Reporter" is still stirring up shit.]
When the fuck are we going to arrest that guy for hate speech? He's been at this far too long.
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>>79590208
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRE WW2 MOSLEY YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>79590029
>being a brown job
I hope you at least got Z type accomodation.
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>>79590288
I left in 2012, Still in contact with most of my old regiment in group chat, if I bring up politics everyone just starts talking about football instead. You don't spend 6 months in the back of a mastiff with lads and not get to know them
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>>79585331
>lordy-lord he won 3 elections!
>Harold Wilson won 4.

I laughed, Anon.
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>>79590350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX1CSSZa1v0

>>79590286
>scottish
No wonder.

>>79590314
What's your point? People still hated Jews before 1940, and saying you hated them wasn't looked down upon until Hitler.
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>>79590422
I was in Germany, 3 men in a 2 man room.

I was an Royal Engineer fitter and did a talisman tour
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>>79590506
He was an English transplant to the city m8, just there for the Uni.

>>79590515
Ouch, sounds about right for Germany.
Where are the RE based about now?
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SCANDAL


HOW WILL CORBYN RECOVER
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>>79590506
People actively tried to discredit Mosley by calling him Anti-Semitic even before it started cropping up in his speeches. If nobody cared, then why was this so effective at discrediting him?

Even Mussolini wasn't particularly anti-Semitic and only introduced racial purity laws to appease Hitler, Hitler of course who Oswald wasn't to fond of. He spent most of the rest of his life trying to prove he wasn't anti-Semitic
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@79590856
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>>79590842
I think 32 are Rippon, not to sure. Most of us are 1CIV DIV now
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>A. C. Grayling has posted a letter to Parliament urging them not to trigger article 50.
I'm done guys. Who in the FUCK is A. C. Grayling and why is this fucking newsworthy? These fuckers are going to overturn the results of the referendum based on people from London protesting and London based media outlets shilling for them.
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>>79571299
He still could if we start carpetbombing
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>>79591057
Yes, they did, but that was only effective post WW2 because of the holohoax.

Calling Mosley an anti-semite in 1938 was the same as calling him a vegetarian, a few people looked dosn on him but nobody ultimately cared.
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>>79573743
Do what I did. Realise that religion doesn't have to be correct in all its teachinhs for its moral teachings to bw just and upright. After all, religion has survived through the ages and is is many ways the wisdom of the ages. Also broaden your horizons past Christianity and semetic religions in general. Try studying the beliefs of ancient man. See if you can't unlock the insight into the nature of men necessary to understand the purpose behind this kind of absolute morality. Only when you have this kind of understanding can you find that kind of moral conviction as an atheist... unless you're a fuckwit, morons tend to be certain about everything.
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>>79591038
First he commits literally another Shoah and now this in the same week :))))))))))))))))) Oy gevalt, why do the goy still like this man?????? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>79583231
>Somebody who was pro remain just straight up shouldn't have had the opportunity to win this shit.
>We clearly need somebody who is Pro-Leave.
It's funny because if you watch her recent speeches, she sounds like she was for Leave all along.

It worries me enormously, lads. I voted to leave and was expecting this to be taken care of.

>getting your hopes up
>in 2016
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>>79591539
>PMoK eventually became MORAL
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>>79591420
Mosley made an active effort to initially clamp down on anti-semitism pre war, why would he bother?

I'm not saying it didn't exist, but you're acting like it was a national pass time. And of course anti-semitism rose when refugees started turning up, of course it did, a bunch of foreigners flocking to your neighbour is bound to ruffle feathers.
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>>79591356
You're doing great lad, don't bother listening to some smelly yank.
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