What in the fuck happened
>>79490105
Mtv
They learnt their place.
The RELIGION OF PEACE happened
Your friendly religion of pieces.
>islam not even once.
Blame the Soviets, probably.
>>79490105
Jimmy Carter.
>>79490105
Radicalization and subversion from our good old (((Ally)))
Iran: Islamic revolution in 1979.
Afghanistan: Taliban takeover in the '80s.
Inbreeding. Average IQ reduction if 10-20
>>79490105
Soviets.
>>79490105
Mudshits gonna mudshit.
Also probably USA being niggers and pooing in their sandpit
>>79490105
>What in the fuck happened
Saudi Arabia happened.
Wahhabism comes from Saudi Arabia and spreads like a cancer through all muslim countries.
>>79490105
in a very simplified version what actually happned is the west and russia started fucking with these countries proping up and removing various factions/dictators eventually militant extremist islamists got into power and fucked everythang up.
anybody who says otherwise is in denial
>>79490105
Islam.
>>79490105
Cold war proxy war, subsequent neglection by anyone esp. the US and a neighbour going full Islam happened.
>>79490105
iran then: western puppet monarchy
iran now: anti-western islamic theocracy
afghanisan then: independent monarchy
afghanistan now: warzone without a government
afghanistan took a loot of abuse. soviet-backed communist coup, followed by american-backed anti-communist uprising, followed by full-scale soviet invasion, which started a long soviet-afghan war that left the country in shambles and millions of afghans dead.
then after the soviets left the taliban took over and went full islam. when they supported 9/11 the americans stepped in and removed them from power, but the country is just too much of a fucked up wasteland to recover at this point.
AMERICA HAPPENED
>>79490105
THIS
>>79490341
>Iran: Islamic revolution in 1979.
>Afghanistan: Taliban takeover in the '80s.
both orchestrated by the (((USA)))
or - done with American money, sweat and blood.
>>79490105
USA doesn't likes freedom and likes to kill peaceful people. Historically Afghanistan was always under attack by somebody, when they are not they tend to be kind of normal. Afghanistan is full of minerals Christian Jew always wanted.
>>79490105
Feminism. They made a choice.
>>79490519
>Iran
>Wahhabism
Wat
>>79490519
you are a retarded moron if you think saudi wahhabism had any influence at all on the situation in iran
>>79490105
Socialism witch inevitably failed and lead to the rise of religious fundamentalism.
>>79490341
I was going to say Islam but this this is better
>>79490656
>Implying Afghanistan wasn't a tribal shithole by showing the social/political elites in a major population center protected by the Russians
>>79490105
The Cold War happened.
>>79490180
>>79490228
>>79490341
>>79490506
>>79490519
>>79490580
Islam has existed for 1500 years. You're expecting me to believe it took that long to change those countries? It's obviously the fault of foreign interventionism in those countries and has very little to do with the religion itself.
>>79490656
Implying the USA is more to blame than USSR for Afghan shittiness.
Though regarding the situation in the OP image, neither are to blame. Just Islam.
>>79490105
Were these countries significantly whiter in the past?
>>79490685
>>79490686
iran got their own islamism.
But Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt.... they are spreading.
NY Times was reporting recently about how saudis are now controlling a majority of mosques in fucking kosovo and as a result kosovo has the highest per capita ISIS members in europe.
>>79490933
>It's obviously the fault of foreign interventionism in those countries and has very little to do with the religion itself.
Wahhabism is 200 years old.
Saudi Arabia is rich enough to have influence for ~50 years.
Exactly the point when islamists started growing.
>>79490875
>implying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Afghanistan
It started way in 1800ies and since then war. Note that Afghanistan was Muslim 1000 years before that.
Afghanistan democratically elected a socialist, became backed by the USSR. Wahabbist muslims (who came from Britain supporting wahabbism so that they could create Saudi Arabia, yep we created Saudi Arabia) didn't like secularism, western morals, or collectivization so they revolted. The US was scared shitless by socialism and the USSR so they funded these muslims, who became the Mujahideen: Jihadists, holy warriors. The USSR in response sent their armies to protect the Afghanistan from a US backed Jihad. They lost. The Afghan government fell, the Mujahideen became the Taliban, and it all went down from there.
Thanks US!
Don't know about Iran but its a similar story. Same with Saudi Arabia
>>79490105
This is good. I'm about to find me an Iranian bride anyway on the internet.
I like my women submissive.
>>79491059
Yes I'm sure the USA deposing secular leaders in the Middle East to promote aggresive anti-Soviets had absolutely nothing to do with it.
You're just as bad as SJWs. You're letting identity politics get in the way of rational thought.
>>79490105
American/Russian intervention
>There are people on /pol/ seriously unaware of the part British and USA played in destroying these countries
>>79490105
America happened.
Afghanistan - Fund islamists against less desirables
Iran - Fund islamists against less desirables
Libya - Fund islamists against less desirables
Syria - Fund islamists against less desirables
>>79491249
Spot on
>>79491298
Yeah if the USA let Afghanistan be controlled by the USSR it would be a gr8 place no doubt.
>>79490933
Did you start following world politics 5 minutes ago, you faggot?
Those countries started going downhill the moment they adopted Islam. this is basic knowledge. This board is 18+ you need to go.
>>79490971
Islam existed in Afghanistan long before that, but only since 1800ies you had wars and later came those terrorist Muslims. What is USA doing today if not training terrorists? Those terrorists don't even attack Israel. If you want a war you need something to start it. Afghanistan/Iraq will be ok once rebuild with American ownership, but question is for how long. This American ownership is all about control and exploitation of natural resources, a military outpost.
>>79491136
Came here to write this, at least someone knows. But it wasn't only the US who are responsible for this, it was the UN who financed those Mujaheddin.
Also, according to Russia, they didn't even try to enforce Socialism on Afghanistan and instead just tried to keep their borders safe from Islamist extremists which is understandable. But well, they probably would have enforced Socialism anyways.
>>79490105
Heads of states became bad goyim and pulled away from the American leash, so the Americans funded the craziest baddest zealots to fight for them and to hell with the native people.
>>79491370
Irrelevant
The fact remains we funded islamic terrorists because it suited our needs. And as usual this bit the American people back in the ass.
>>79491249
>>79491330
You're making it sound like Afghanistan would be a secular state today if the USSR and USA didn't ever intervene.
IIRC the only reason the USSR went in to begin with was because their communist influence was waning because the growing Islamic population was rejecting communism was it wasn't aligned with Islam.
we funded fundamentalists to insure the countries didnt fall to communism. clearly the answer is to fund communist uprisings to get rid of the fundamentalists.
>>79490105
it got better
>>79491553
It isn't irrelevant because the situation in the OP image is comparing westernized Afghanistan to a Sharia controlled one and that process began prior to any USSR or USA intervention.
You can argue the proxy war made the country shittier and maybe a regime not as awful as the Taliban would have controlled it, but I don't think the country would have reversed its course and suddenly embraced western values,
>>79491136
>Don't know about Iran but its a similar story. Same with Saudi Arabia
where do you morons get your history lessons? local antifa propaganda?
i'll give you the basics
Iran:
>monarchy, ruled by the shah (king)
>a dude named mosaddegh becomes prime minister
>mosaddegh wants to take over british oil refinieries and, britain doesn't want that
>britain and USA basically coup mosaddegh out of power, restoring the shah to power
>for the next 20 years pretty much nothing happens
>then, the islamic revolution (led by ayatollah ruhollah khomeini) turns islam into a radical shia theocracy
>new islamic republic hates literally everything (hates USA and the west, hates USSR and the east, hates israel, hates sunnis - especially saudi arabia)
saudis:
all the way back in the times of world war 1, arabia was ruled by the turks. the turks fucked off after they lost ww1. a dude named abdulaziz ibn saud - with help from a sunni fundamentalist movement - took over much of the arabian peninsula, including mekka and medina as well as his family's home cidy riyadh. this man founded the modern saudi state. ever since that time, his family has ruled the country as an absolute monarchy. all saudi kings have been sons of ibn saud, most government positions are in the hands of saudi family members.
>>79491588
Just like America funds 'Nazis' in Ukraine to fight the Russian separatists. They have no qualms with using fanatics as a proxy.
>>79491784
Why are you in Japan? To stir up shit against Japanese, fill them with migrants and to make them enemies of North Korea.
>>79491136
>Thanks US
More like thanks Islam for being cancer
>>79491922
You got me.
>>79490105
How come they look like different people? Ignore the clothes, hair and makeup, the earlier are better looking women, the later ones are all ugly.
>>79491932
>thinks there are sides
Go home baby. Terrorist groups are created to stir up shit and to cause a war so that western humanitarian organizations can come and conquer it with love. USA trained those bible retards of Yugoslavia who wanted war and into EU. Look at them now, USA doesn't cares about Serbia. Their pathetic Christian democratic parties are sucking Ahmed and liking it.
>>79491784
>You can argue the proxy war made the country shittier and maybe a regime not as awful as the Taliban would have controlled it
But that is the main point. As a result of American actions, Afghanistan and many countries are a lot shittier. In fact, we could easily say USSR rule would be preferable since Afghanistan would have had 35 years to get back in its feet, as opposed to still snackbaring and blowing up to this day.
Communist: Afghanistan 1967 Iran 1970
Capitalism: Afghanistan 2011 Iran 2012
>>79491136
except that the Taliban was a Pakistani movement supported by the ISI and used by Pakistan to create a puppet state in Afghanistan. The Afghan Mujahadeen would also go on to form the Northern Alliance...
The US had little to do with foreign fighters, the bulk of the funding to them came from the Gulf States and Pakistan.
>>79492579
False, the right pictures are the result of Soviet occupation and mudslimes getting butthurt that there culture is shit
Having served in that region this is the culture brief given to me:
During the end of the colonial period as long as local leadethekept raw matierials flowing the western ruling class were very hands off, allowing the locals to be ruled by locals and advance at thier own pace along the paths of thier own choosing.
Then post colonialism happened and a power vaccume was created, the religious right began making violent plays for power, and even though "colonialism" was seen as politically incorrect by the west, it never really stopped.
Russia and Nato began collectivly pumping money and weapons into proxy forces trying to gain a monopoly in the control of resource exports.
There were several violent communist movements sparked by russia, which tended to favor secularism, and a religion free government as dictated by the basic tennants of communism.
Naturally, NATO (the USA) backed whoever opposed them, which just so happened to be the religious and highly secular right.
Both sides spent decades tossing gasoline onto the fire, creating incredibly bloody and pointless conflicts (iran/iraq war which was as big as the 1st world war in terms of casualties, russian invasion of afghanistan etc etc.)
So communism fell, and the middle east was left as a war torn devastated backwater irrelevant except for the fact that they posess oil.
The formerly US supported secular groups siezed power, and promptly deflected blame for atrcities towards outside meddling and engendered a culture of religious zealotry revolving around xenophobia. Middle eastern people do not see a difference between the "decadent and immoral US, and the athiest heathen infidels."
Having been betrayed by the outside world, they reverted to a resurgence of pre colonial tribal and hyper religious ideals.
>>79492590
>US didn't fund Mujahideen
The US had a whole operation by the CIA dedicated to funding and arming Jihadists to take down Afghanistan.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone>>79492590
>>79492970
Afghanistan is old project, lets look some new American projects like Ukraine. Stir up shit, create chaos, all of sudden prices a low and you can order 3 brides for price of 1. Nobody cares anymore, oligarchs satisfied. But where does the oligarch money come from to begin with? One part was stolen during Soviet split, of course founded by foreigners too to buy land, other part by foreigner money to buy even more land. At end of it all is clay control. There are also other options like EU, but at end of it all is clay control.
>>79490105
>>79490105
Islam + USA + Britain + (((Chosen People))) happened. Don't believe people who say the shah was a puppet, they are either shills or wikipedia (((scholars))).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kySR3fpa5s
Give me back my King and monarchy and I will go back to Iran tomorrow. I wish I was alive back then so I could kill muslims/communists during the (((revolution))).
They threw off the shackles of foreign occupation and exploitation by the hands of European devils
>>79493352
Thank you.
>>79491059
Muh islamistis
The U.K is the main funder of the muslim brother hood
And then you blame us
>>79490105
Wahabbism spread by Saudi Arabia
>>79493678
Saudi Arabia created by Britain because it makes them richer. Britain is the reason Wahabbidism has spread. Beforehand it was a fringe religion
>>79493589
>And then you blame us
yes.
Get your shit together.
>>79493382
This, basically the people got caught in the middle of post colonial power struggles, then later, cold war proxy conflicts between russia and the US.
They spent almost a century as pawns of the world super powers and got fucked so hard it triggered a cultural reboot.
They reverted back to traditional social roles, which were unfortunatley outdated around the time of the early renaissance period.
It would be like if we spent a decade under islamic rule, finally broke free, and went back to doing our own thing, except it had been so long since we actually had done our own thing that our only position to revert back to while maintaining cultural originality was "hanging teenage girls in salem for witchcraft and beheading petty thieves in the town square with guillotines."
>>79493878
*meant century, not decade
>>79493110
>iran/iraq war which was as big as the 1st world war in terms of casualties
what?
>>79490105
Jews and the CIA funded a lot of radicals for a long period
>>79493830
Yes and after WWII the Saudis signed a deal with president Truman, which was the starting point of their philosophical conquest of islam
But what was the alternative for not creating Saudi Arabia?
>>79493352
Religious people are only useful tools. During Socialism in Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, China, Myanmar, Vietnam, etc... they cried on the orders of foreign influences how they can't form Christian political parties. Now that they have those Christian Democratic political parties, now they import Muslims into Europe and propagate interracial. Christians in China are the only ones who propagate interracial, those provinces are also where you also find most westerners. Merkel literally Christian Democratic Union, president of Germany literally pastor, they love Muslim penis or African penis, whatever, they don't have that nationalistic talk any long as during Socialism, now we see them what they truly are, a racemixing capitalistic puppet political parties. This left/right that exists today is more or less all shit, all following orders, all they do is for profit, not people, but exactly those will cry the most about humanity.
>>79490292
Blame Saudi Arabia and the US who allied with them and gave them tons of weapons.
>>79493844
When we do all the western media attacks us for killing them and shit happens in country
What must we do?
Suck their cocks like swedes?
We can not do shit if the west keep sticking its ass in everything here
>>79493878
I always view society like a rubber band
For example in Weimar republic you get rampant degeneracy in all forms and it was on track to become a Soviet satellite. They pulled so hard to the left and it snaps back after a point and you get the Third Reich. Same thing with most mena countries. Sure there were many in the bourgeois class who enjoyed pretending to be western, but societal norms kept pulling further and further from what traditional Islamic laws and roles (not wahabi-tier, but still conservative), and then it snaps back and we have what is there now. It's a dumb little way of thinking of things I suppose, but it seems to be sort of accurate. The secret is to find a happy medium in my opinion
>>79494174
>What must we do?
join the civilized world.
Arab world is switching between brutal secular dictators like Sisi and Assad and on the other side wahhabi sunni islamism.
As long as you dont fix this shit you will be a shithole.
>>79494355
Lol you replay my questions with questions
we can not fix shit if the west keeps fucking up shit here
>>79490105
This is what it looks like when the US bring "freedom" and "democracy" to other countries.
>>79494066
The Ottoman controlled area could have dissipated on its own and the Ottoman citizens of the region could have established their own country instead of having British backed Saudi family take control
>>79490105
>What in the fuck happened
Islam turns back the clock to the middle ages.
It's the only culture facing backward, not forward.
>>79490105
The quest for world democracy was so noble and progressive
>>79494586
Really, so how is your country doing all these years after you started WW2 and the world liberated your ass?
>>79490105
I'll tell you
Someone took two pictures from students in some Oriental shithole and sticked them before two pictures of low class ninja turtles.
The Guy wrote coherent dates under these pictures, and now hundreds of virgins faggots are falling for a meme.
I'm not even leftist for fuck's saké.
>>79493157
>"program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen prior to and during the Soviet war in Afghanistan"
literally the first sentence
I said they had little to do with foreign fighters.
The Arab fighters generally used their own sources of funding (ie gulf states + rich benefactors back home).
>>79494784
Mercenaries don't care where money comes from, they have no goal. For troops Muhammad is an excuse, just like Jesus. If those Muslim patriots cared so much, then why do they come to EU? Mercenaries are only interested in exploitation, all their speeches about glory of Allah and whatnot, that's empty talk. Those geniuses from Africa that come to EU, why aren't they genius in Africa? They aren't genius no matter if 300 IQ or 400 IQ, they are stupid shit like Jews who exploit world. Without their precious money benefits they can't do shit but rape. That's true for Muslim, Christian and Jewish armies.
>>79490105
Saudi Arabia happened.
This is the same in almost every Muslim country. I remember my mom used to tell me nobody had hijab when she was a little girl and women wore swim suit at the beach. You were frowned upon if you chose to cover your hair. Drinking was also normal back then.
>>79494254
Far left and far right extremism is just using the set of atrocities to enforce different morals.
>>79491244
Please look up the golden age of Islam and how it effected every country around the middle east.
All we did was remind them what kind of animals they really are and tried to direct it at the Soviets.
>>79490386
get out molyjew
>>79493352
why are persians so much better than the rest of the middle east?
we have some persians in germany, they all arrived here in the 80s when they fled the islamic revolution. without exception, all the persians here are decent people who integrate pretty much perfectly.
how can persians be so good when all the peoples around them (arabs, pakis) are pure shit? is it something about the whole shia/sunni divide?
>>79490105
America happened
>>79490519
>>79490933
>>79491298
Basically this.
I like the logic of this anons.
>>79495587
Religious people in politics is never a good idea, no matter what religion or political party. Religious politicians are retards, they can finish schools, they can prove they are important, but they are mentally ill. More a Muslim learns about science and then can't even connect science to religion to determine its flaws, more retarded they get into thinking they are smart.
Islam was becoming moderate and then 'muricans sticked their dick in a hornets nest of conflict between Sunni and Shia and now we're here.
So many people here that hate islam, even though their imperialist country is responsible for this backwardness. Hell their country is still bombing the middle east but it's all Islam's fault!
Here's some points about the war criminal past of the USA
>funded the holy warriors to take down democratically elected Afghanistan
>overthrown multiple democracies and propped up far right dictatorships in their place
>started a worldwide secret human experimentation program called MKULTRA, which created the terrorist known as the Unabomber
>drew up a plan to attack one of their own cities and frame it as a Cuban terrorist attack so we could go to war
>funded the European mafia to kill communist sympathizers that ran naval docks after World War 2
>used illegal chemical weapons in Vietnam which led to hundreds of thousands of birth defects in innocent people
>lied about WMD's to invade Iraq
But somehow the US is the good guy in all of this, it was NEVER the US's fault. Nope, wahabbism just rose out of nowhere, definitely not because the west spread it like a girus for their own interests or anything. Yep the middle east put this all on themselves, fucking savages why can't they be civilized like us while we keep bombing them?
>>79495691
different genetics. k selected vs r selected. more likely to be able to think long term and prosper. if you study history you can see that Iranic peoples have always been the masters of the Middle East. Look at what the Arabs said of the Persians when they conquered them. Look at the "Islamic" Golden Age, it was basically an Iranian renaissance. All the standout minds were of Iranic origin. The cream rises to the top.
>>79490105
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Take a guess...
>>79495745
That watermark is from the FSA divison in Latakia, 'Rebels' openly get guns from the US, it's not a secret.
I see no point for that pic.
>>79496143
Iranians were sunnis in the islamic golden age tho
>>79495691
They're white and therefor smarter
>>79496229
And your point is what exactly? I'm not talking about which backwards ideology is the lesser evil of two extremely shitty lifestyles (hint: its Shia Islam). I'm talking about the racial makeup of Iran.
>>79496323
No point
People do not know that it is a political thingy
Not about reiligion
>>79490105
>afghanistan 1967 - degenerate sluts wearing whatever they want unsupervised
>afghanistan 2011 - feminine women waiting patiently for male supervision
>>79490105
You guys happend.
Overthrew democraticly elect leader in Iran because he was a commie and he got replaced by a religious zelot.
In Afghanistan you trained muhjadin because they fought the commies and they became religious zelots.
And then you fucked up europe by destroying the white mans hope that was Adolf Hitler.
All while Israel stands tall.
Good goyim.
>>79494091
It partially because of the nature of democracy, it is an unsustainable form of government that will always collapse on its own. Monarchies have been proven to be the most stable, efficient and beneficial form of governing a nation as long as you have nation loving king as monarch. Most monarchies with such kings and bloodlines, didn't collapse on their own, but were destroyed from the outside, either by war or violent terrorist revolutions, freemasons destroyed many European monarchies. Those who pull the strings of world affairs want more global power and less independent nations, so no more monarchies and more (((democracies))) with corrupt politicians who lie and sell out.
Monarchy is always demonized in Jewish made movies and history books, I wonder why.
Islam happened. It's Islam's fault. In the 60s and 70s they all worshipped toaster ovens.
>>79496568
Not to mention the overthrowing of the Iranian monarch because he was deemed too friendly to Hitler. Iranians hate the eternal Anglo for his constant meddling.
>>79490105
That Afghanistan and that Iran never existed outside the lives of a tiny Westernized elite.
It was an illusion.
>>79490105
Religion out of control is what happened the US would be the same way but we got smart and realized religion is a load of bullshit to control idiots and told them to fuck off. If you would notice all the bullshit regulations that the Republicans keep trying to pass are religious bullshit rules to keep a group of people down and has nothing to do with safety just control.
>>79496959
Nah not true. I dunno anything about Afghanistan but Iran had been modernized for a good 30 years before the revolution. Reza Shah started the process during the 1920s. He saw himself as a sort of Ataturk figure.
>>79491244
You're not wrong, but the piece about Saudi Arabia is important because they are an American Ally. They use their agents in Wahhabi sects to spread the most radical Islam to shape their Allies and their own strategic interests, and as an ally of the USA this never happens without US at least knowing of it, if out approving of it, or actively supporting it.
>>79497127
but that modernization never penetrated the lower classes
sure, you saw French-speaking, jeans wearing girls in unis, but that lifestyle did not become the norm for the majority of the country. the majority remained durka durkas.
lol
>>79495691
It doesn't have anything to do with shia/sunni divide, if shia were in a stronger position, they would be just as bad as sunni. I believe genetics plays a small role, but historical culture and upbringing plays a bigger role. Persians grow up with a big emphasis on education. Persians have two different, yet intertwined identities: Persian culture/mythology/customs and Islam. Intelligent persians see Islam for the garbage it is and fall back on their Persian identity. Persian identity doesn't conflict that much with European philosophies and customs, thus it is easier for Persians to assimilate/integrate. Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks etc have no other historical identity but Islam, it is the only thing they know and thus adapting to Europe is a lot harder for them, their identities clash. This is why Islamists always try to destroy previous cultures, it makes future generations in to better SLAVES (muslim literally means submitting to allah/being a slave to god).
-Funfact-
When Wahhabism started spreading that based man listened to them music before killing them because music is haram for wahhabists
They stopped buying burgers. Its bad for the soul.
>>79494770
We're in the same boat they are
Getting fucked over by a leftist government and leftist media
>>79490105
Secular Muslims were kicked out by fundamental Muslims that want to live according to Mohammed and so on.
>>79497781
>thus it is easier for Persians to assimilate/integrate. Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks etc have no other historical identity but Islam,
>Turks
>no other historical identity but Islam
Is this what western media tells to you?
>>79497905
Brutal.
>>79490105
JEW-SA was afraid they'd go commie so they propped up Radicals and assassinated the reformist movements. THANKS JEWS
>>79490933
TBQH SENPAI
Persepolis explains What happened in iran pretty well
USA and the Soviet Union ruined all this with their dickfights and no one cared about islamic radicals
Its the fault of developed world, that terrorism shit, fallout of the cold war.
And now IS turned itself into a global meme and is never going away. It was never about islam.
>>79490105
The USSR attempting to spread Communism happened. Everything around them turned into war zones.
>>79491370
I would be like any other post sovient -stan's country. Much better than the current Afghanistan if you ask.
>>79498162
It is what logic tells me, if Turks had a non-Islamic identity, they wouldn't feel the need to steal from Greeks and Persians and call it their own. Fuck off scum.
>>79498162
>Muh steppe warrior ancestors
Literally 90 % of all Turks are backward unsecular Muslims, dreaming of Ottoman power and praising Mehmet fatih for his conquest
Even Bozkurts, your radical right-wing Turk-whorshippers are radical islamized, lad
>>79498162
Turkic != Modern Turkish
>what happened to afghanistan
>>79490105
American intervention.
>>79490292
kys you illiterate gook
>>79498100
No
In egypt it was USA backed Anwar Sadat who literally let the islamists loose
Naser kept the Islamic Brotherhood in prisons. This is where this all started 40 years ago. If you put this on arabs alone you're a fucking retard and i hope you get cucked by Macumba
>>79498162
You have no culture or identity beyond the fact that your ancestors came in hordes from Mongolia and raped and pillaged their way through Anatolia.
Anatolia is rich in culture and history because of Armenians and Greeks. Not even you could taqiyya about that.
>>79490105
The USA did this, if they had never stuck their Jewish hands where they didn't belong my family would have never had to leave
>>79498281
Not really. Its heavily propagandized. The person who wrote it is a Qajar. Their dynasty was overthrown by the Pahlavi and her bias really shines through. Plus she's a total cunt IRL.
>>79498467
More like the CIA trying to fuck over the soviets and the Middle East in general
>>79495691
It's because the aern't as traumatized, their countries aernt in war so they're less likely to feel sympathetic patriotism and radicalize
>>79490105
Progress
>>79490105
FREEDOM happened. At least the evil commies are out of the picture, right?
>>79491370
Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, and the other post-Soviet countries in that region are all far better places to live than Afghanistan.
>>79498873
>tfw you will never exterminate Qajar bloodline
>tfw you will never exterminate islamic clerics and their families in Iran
Such a shame
>>79498162
Fixed your pic :^)
>>79498569
>The US funds Saudi Islamic fundamentalist terrorists to go and incite rebellions in Afghanistan to dampen Soviet influence
>The Russians are to blame
How bout no. I'm pretty sure a secular post-communist Afghanistan would be better for everyone involved. Especially the world trade center.
>>79490105
Literally US intervention.
>>79491450
Such ignorance.
Those countries have been islamic for millenia, for a long time they were the center of a lot of civilisation when europe was destroyed by germanic tribes chimping out.
Aside from the ottoman empire, the region was fairly decent.
>>79490933
>>79491059
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Execution_of_Operation_Ajax
>>79491450
I'm as sick of muslims as anyone but that is false.
>>79490105
Sadly it is not only Afghanistan and Iran, Saudies and Merica interventionism fucked up the whole subcontinent.
My father was kind of hippy in his youth and have traveled to Middle East in a van with his friends as Afghanistan and the region between Europe and India was a pretty popular route. It was totally ok and chill to smoke hash in a Kabul tea shop.
>live in a war-stricken theocratic desert shithole
> heathen imperialists with an army of robots shows up and bombs your country to ruins in pursuit of their own economic and strategic interests
>you know that these heathen invaders did this before, centuries ago, and that they're allies with another nation that commits genocide against a group of people with a similar religion to yours
>grow up knowing that your father died fighting these infidels, and incorporate that into your own personal mythology
>lose friends, family members, and neighbors to indiscriminate bombings by robots until your actually learn to fear a blue sky
>be hopeless, depressed, and directionless
>dude rolls into town with money, a reputation, sweet rides, tons of guns, the promise of revenge, and possibly pussy
>this dude's group is universally painted as the "bad guys" in the imperialists' media, and is universally feared by them
>this guy presents an extreme version of the faith you so desperately want to have and a sort of brotherhood
I'm especially sick of this US interventionism because I had to leave my country for fear of these fundamentalists that the US openly supported.
Half a century ago, my country used to have cultural festivals, where famous writers and philosophers would come and have talks, and my own grandfather would translate for them.
But now the country can do nothing but focus on fighting terrorism, and every time a terrorist attack happens, I have to sit and watch as all of Islam gets blamed for the attack, even though it is people of Islam who are doing most of the fighting against the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS in the first place.
Egyptians fending off the Muslim Brotherhood. Iraqis taking back their cities, where the entire population was taken hostage and treated as human shields by ISIS. These things get ignored and go uncelebrated, because it does not fit the narrative that all of Islam is rooted in the acts of the terrorists that destroy us first before anyone else.
>>79490105
This is Afghanistan today.
Every shithole has it's middle class citizens.
>>79490105
It's their own choice
>>79499493
I have an uncle who did the same thing in the 60s. Drove in a van from Afghanistan down through Pakistan and into India. Must have been a popular thing.
>>79499854
It's whatever.
U.S. intervention happened. They didn't have enough freedoms.
>>79498941
I did training for that in the military. What makes it fascism?
>>79499937
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie_trail
it was a big thing then of non conventional tourism
Pic related
>>79494536
Step 1: Stop blaming the West for your own failings.
>>79496197
>rebels
Damn, I wish we fucking carpet bomb that muslim shithole with gifts from Zagorsk-6. But, gues what, US are pro-Islam, they will lose their minds about MUH RUSSIAN AGRESSION AGAINST PEACEFUL MUSLIMS. Ignorant fuckers.
>>79500406
Egypt had a revolution, and then the US kneecapped it by supporting Morsi even though that election was stolen and sabotaged to the point where the populace had to actually petition its own military to get him removed.
Stop supporting our enemies.
>>79500406
You literally destroy everything and when they complain you tell them to stop blaming you. You're even currently destroying shit in Libya, Syria and Iraq.
Don't you see how hypocritical that is
It's like If I was building a sand castle and you stomp on it and say "Stop blaming me for your own failure to build a sand castle"
>>79500624
Don't blame the conqueror for bringing its abilities to bear for its interests, blame your ancestors for lacking the civilization to compete.
>>79499854
what a qt.
>>79494167
So, don't blame the USSR for initially invading Afghanistan?
And the US gave no one weapons concerning Iran.
How fucking retarded are you?
>>79498953
Again, what happened to the better looking earlier people? the later ones are distinctively uglier.
>>79500624
>You
I'm not a jew or in the israeli foreign legion, the biggest tax is fractional reserve banking, that and the dollar are global(there are more dollars outside the US than in.)
>>79490105
Democracy/Communism
>Ruskies for the Afganistan
>USA for Iran
And Syria is next, all that blood over a gas pipe and stupid power play.
>>79498839
(Hey fbi, might want to keep an eye on this one)
>>79501915
The instability in the Middle East and the radicalisation of Islam have little to do with Afghanistan, or rather Afghanistan is merely a component of that instability. Saudi Arabia is the root.
If you want a simplified version of the narrative, I suggest you watch the Adam Curtis film "Bitter Lake".
>>79490933
This so much. Jewpaid CIA putsched everythign there and fucked up on purpose.
>>79506321
Is that for seasoning your food?
>Delicious dust
>>79490933
>very little to do with religion itself
You're right about the foreign intervention part but I doubt this could happen in a christian country. Islam is by definition more radical and it created the perfect conditions for the foreign intervention.
>>79490105
operation ajax you retarded fucking burgernigger.
>>79490105
Israel, Saudi Arabia, US intervention, the deposition of secular leaders, and reactionary movements from people who felt their way of life was under attack.
It's like how a lot of people on /pol/ went full DEUS VULT out of hatred for SJWs.
>>79506812
>>79490933
The Arab world was basically camels and desert, until oil was discovered and oil became the driving force of civilisation in the industrial era. This made some nations fabulously wealthy
>>79490105
>Left - globalist secularism
>Right - arabic conservatism/nationalism
Isn't this what /pol/ wants?
>>79490105
Coups led by the US. How do you not know this?
>>79490105
Stop with this meme. Afghanistan and Iran had their fair share of liberal people a few decades ago, but most of the population were still inbred fundamentalist M*slims.
>>79490292
This is actually post soviet-influence fag. Japanese-education everyone.
The U.S. intervensionism happened. You propped up those radical muslim cunts. Afghanistan was a socialist country, but America couldn't allow it. Iran was going the same way with Mossadegh in th 50s. But no, you coudn't afford a republican Iran and instead you placed an idiot, the Shah, in power and who later was pawned by the "democratic" muslim ayatollah forces. That's what happened, burger. Inform yourself on wikipedia, before posting something any /pol/tard knows quite well. This is why /pol/ cannot be fooled by the leftist media and ther "freedom fighters" in Syria or whatever muzziestan.
>>79506812
Grease knows what's up.
>>79490105
You did.
Ever since the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran you were actively searching for elements in Islamic world to support. Anyone that was against SU was useful to you. So you supported mujahadins in Afghanistan, and we all see how this ended.
Guys like Nasser were the best thing that could have happened to Arabs. Autocratic socialist regimes, quite secular and with pan-arabian agenda.
