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>BOSTON (AP) — A teenager who sent her boyfriend dozens of text messages encouraging him to take his own life and telling him to "get back in" a truck filled with carbon monoxide fumes must stand trial for involuntary manslaughter, the state's highest court ruled Friday.

>The Supreme Judicial Court ruled Friday that a grand jury had probable cause to indict Michelle Carter, then 17, in the 2014 death of Carter Roy III, 18.

>tell someone online to "kill yourself"
>the madman actually does it
>go to prison for manslaughter

This is what's coming /pol/. How does it make you feel?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-oks-trial-girl-texted-boyfriend-urging-suicide-150603008.html
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Sounds fine to me. Bitch shouldn't be encouraging suicide.
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>>79429153
Makes me want to kill myself
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>>79429153
I'm fine with it. It's one thing to tell some random faggot on 4chan or youtube to kill themselves. But when it's a boyfriend or someone else who's close to you there is a line that has been crossed.
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>>79429416
This desu
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>>79429153
>involuntary manslaughter


How is that involuntary?
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>>79429416
This, she seems like a psycho, so nothing of value was lost, except for some poor robot.
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>>79429298
not like you would encourage suicide, riiiiight?
you've never told anyone on the internet to "kys", riiiiight?
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>>79429153
what is wrong with her head?
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good lord look at her hairline
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>>79429623

Saying kill yourself to some random faggot online who isn't even suicidal is a far cry from encouraging your boyfriend, who you know is in the process of committing suicide as you speak, to kill himself.
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>>79429153
>How does it make you feel?

Amused that he went through with it and amused that she's getting punished.
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>>79429153
Perfect, everyone who says "kill yourself" should be hanged
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>>79429153
>EX GF PISSING ME OFF
>WONT STOP TALKING ABOUT HER SEX LIFE AND TAKING PLAN B
>ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
>GET HER ON THE PHONE
>TELL HER I WILL COME TO HER HOUSE AND BLOW HER FUCKING BRAINS OUT WITH MY AR 15
>THE BF GETS ON THE PHONE
>TELL HIM TO MEET ME SO I CAN SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD
>HE STARTS ACTING LIKE A BITCH
>THREATENS TO CALL THE COPS
>DOESNT REALIZE I WAS ON A BURNER PHONE
>DOESNT REALIZE HE DIDNT RECORD THE CALL


RATE ME /pol/
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>>79429416
This.

This was clearly something that lasted for weeks, if not months.
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here's what happened:

>woman is incapable of understanding male suffering
>assumes man will act the way she would in any given situation
>woman knows she'd never actually kill herself and only threatens to do so for attention
>assumes man is only crying out for help
>encourages him to kill himself in hopes of cashing in on any resulting drama
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>>79429697
I am suicidal and /pol/ told me to kill myself.
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she deserves it and everyone would agree if you all read the transcript

the guy wanted to back out, but she convinced him to do it anyway
and she tried to get him to kill himself for months

it wasn't simply her telling the guy to off himself, she was convincing him to do it over time
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>>79429697
what if he only killed himself because he was cyber-bullied by 4chan? what if a "kys" from some anon got him in the truck? sure, he texted her but she didn't put him in there
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>>79429153
>women standing trial
retarded
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>>79429918

Well we didn't know that.

Now that I do, instead of telling you to kill yourself I'll tell you to harden the fuck up.

>>79429970

Foreseeability.
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>>79429153
There is a difference between telling a stranger on the internet to kill themselves and telling someone you know personally who you also know is really suicidal to kill themselves.

KYS OP you fucking faggot
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>>79429697

This desu senpai

also

>she
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That's retarded. It's basically saying that she is responsible for his death. People do not kill themselves just because someone told them to.
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>>79429868
Supreme Gentlemen/10

lol you fag
>>79429153
anyone who killed himself over that Gremlin look-a-like was getting picked off sooner or later, Darwinism and all that
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>>79429868
Not bad, now you just need to find an iron clad alibi one day and Nancy Kerrigan the guy when he comes out of his house
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>>79429153
Suicide is illegal. Conspiring in someone's suicide therefore is also illegal. Have fun explaining to the jury you were just being edgy.
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>>79429868
>DONT ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE
ahhahahafaggot/10
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>>79429416
This senpai
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>>79429623
>kys means kill yourself
At last, I truly see. kys
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>>79429949
what was her end game though?
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>>79430264

To get him to kill himself, because she's a sick fuck.
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>>79430148
oh jeez, i hope i can find someone to talk me out of killing myself
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She literally told him to get back in the car once he started to express doubt and egged him on to do it for weeks beforehand. She then bragged about it to her friends.

Knowing this, it definitely crossed the line into something criminal.
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>>79429153

She didnt just post kill yourself faggot she coached him through it so she could exploit it.
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Wow she did what half the boards try to do daily. If she can go down, this site be fucked by precedence
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>>79430264
She wanted sympathy.
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>>79430264
Sympathy and attention. I'm not even kidding. That's what she has stated on record.
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>>79429868
>taking any bullshit from an ex

betacuck/10
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Are her alien persuasion powers stuck in that bowling ball of a skull she has? We should dissect her brain.
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>>79429800
kys
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>>79430264

Profit from being a victim after.
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>>79429153
>pretending you know the facts
this is old news dipshit
and she pressed and harassed him into actually killing himself, al the while knwoing he's been fence sitting on suicide for a long time
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>>79430047

She coached him through it we have had threads about this.
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The case was she kept encouraging him and told him ways to do it. Then when he was wanting to back our she egged her on. Still stupid, but just telling someone kill yourself won't get you in trouble.
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>>79429153
http://archive.is/Zbzr0
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>>79429623

That's like saying
>"I'm going to kill you!"
While just playing around

Obviously it's not a serious threat.

Whereas if you had a loaded gun to their head and said
>"I'm going to kill you"
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>>79429416
kys
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>omg look im le sad
>if u put me in jail ill le cry ;(
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She's an idiot. I've been in an instance where my current ex-girlfriend's ex boyfriend was telling her he wanted to kill himself while I was dating her. The dude somehow had my number and texted me that he was going to kill himself. Now, I didn't know the guy and was pretty sure he was saying that for attention and sympathy, I knew better than to antagonize him because on the small chance he did, and the cops see me telling him to go ahead, I could be held liable somehow. So I told him that suicide doesn't sound like a great idea and to stop texting me.
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She gets to enjoy hell too, now.
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>>79429373
If you do it then OP should go to jail.
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>>79429153
This is the dumbest case in American history...Words did not kill him he did.
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>>79429153
I wouldn't be telling someone to kill themselves if I had those inbred british 5head genes
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>>79429153
she didn't just tell him to "kill himself" she encouraged him for weeks and even told him when he was in the car to do it
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>>79429623
>not like you would encourage suicide, riiiiight?
>you've never told anyone on the internet to "kys", riiiiight?

Yes there's no difference between a random anon telling you 'KYS' and your gf telling you to stop being scared and get back in your DIY gas chamber
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>>79429623
finally I understand what kys means.

I thought it was some german snark term meaning kiss / thanks.
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>>79429623
Kill yourself and fuck teh body.
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>>79429153
>tell someone to kill themselves
>the madman actually does it
>you get punished because of another person's actions
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>>79430855
HOLY FUCK THAT PIC!
WHAT A TURNAROUND!

>#FATLIVESMATTER
time to find me a fatty!
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>>79429623
Hi NSA.
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So now people who are suicidal have an additional motivation for killing themselves: getting people who harassed them sent to prison.
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>>79431001
I could be completely wrong then,
I've mostly seen it said in threads where OP is saying he's gonna kill himself
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>>79430855
god damn i hate women. you know every fat woman would do this given the opportunity
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>>79431001
kys
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She influenced him to commit suicide. Her actions probably caused his death by suicide. I understand that this is not the same thing as stabbing someone in the throat, but there's no question that she took advantage of his volatile state. She should be executed.
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>>79429153
She's a bitch, but to charge somebody for manslaughter for telling a person, who is not affected by narcotics such as hallucinogens, to kill himself is inane. She's abetting a crime (suicide), sure, but ultimately the choice of suicide was solely up to the dude.
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>>79429416
This.

It's one thing to say it to someone who can take a joke, but it's not something you'd do to someone who most likely had clinical depression.
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>>79430460
Classic white American girl.

>tell guy to kill himself
>then proceed to fish for attention in social media
>creates even a fundraiser off his suicide
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>>79431128
Hello citizen, have you been abiding the law?
Can you tell me who 4chan is?
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>>79429153
There is literally nothing wrong with suggesting someone kill themselves. That girl didn't force him to kill himself. Hell, if I'm ever in a position to see someone on the side of a building or a bridge I'm going to yell "Jump!"

It's ultimately up to the idiot on the side of the bridge whether he takes his own life. She didn't point a gun at his head and order the guy to do it.
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>>79430855
I'm going to assume a whale married a whale

>not encouraging husband to also lose weight before divorcing
What a disgusting slut
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>>79430855
>She's an idiot. I've been in an instance where my current ex-girlfriend's ex boyfriend was telling her he wanted to kill himself while I was dating her. The dude somehow had my number and texted me that he was going to kill himself. Now, I didn't know the guy and was pretty sure he was saying that for attention and sympathy, I knew better than to antagonize him because on the small chance he did, and the cops see me telling him to go ahead, I could be held liable somehow. So I told him that suicide doesn't sound like a great idea and to stop texting me.


Shiieeet I'd be the kinda guy that tells him to proceed, and even send him a how-to manual for his convenience. If the guy then hypothetically kills himself, would that make me liable for his stupid decision?
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>>79429153
your greentext scenario is not a faithful representation of the facts of this case

kill yourself
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She isn't guilty. This isn't protected under freedom of speech, because her direct convincing led to his death. It's the same as coercing someone to murder your rival, you are just as guilty.
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>>79430264
That's what I never understood.
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>>79429623
If you're stupid enough to kill yourself because a stranger on the net told you to, you're probably better off out of the genepool desu senpai.
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>>79431394

Yup pretty much. Years ago they'd just cut themselves for the attention but it doesn't do as much for them anymore. They've moved onto killing their BFs
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>>79429153
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should be voluntary manslaughter with 15 years of prison T B H
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>>79431394
Shit and i forgot picture as usual.
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>>79429153
Fuck psychopaths like her
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>>79430855
Meh, the picture doesn't bother me too much.

Same shit happened to my dad with his hot ex-wife. When the beauty fades, and the free dinners stop, they come back to the man that treated her right.

His ex-wife is now batshit crazy and lives in the foothills. It may happen to this woman, but it may not. Either way, if the man is smart he will see he dodged a bullet.

Also, the kids will hate her. You think her kids' schoolmates don't hear this woman being talked about? Think the parents don't know what a piece of shit this woman is? The real victims, as usually with shitty women, are this kids.
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This will forever be known as "the /b/ precedent".


KYS kthx
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>>79431509
Idk man I just didn't want to take the chance. I wanted to tell him to just do it instead of telling me why you want to, but I didn't want to put my job and stuff at risk because the world we live in is retarded. I didn't want to be in this chicks position because some dude I've never met decided to bother me and I was just trying to get him to fuck off
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>>79429416
Something being morally reprehensible doesn't necessarily make that thing illegal. This case sets a dangerous precedent.
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>>79429416
This.

t. dubs checkem
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>>79429153
qt
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>>79431842
>this person is allowed to walk around unsupervised
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>>79429623
This situation is completely different
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>>79430770
So it's illegal to tell someone how to kill themselves? Someone better tell wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods
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>>79429868

Great plan. No one will ever know it was you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xptX6dC8ePs
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>>79429416

This. I read what she was saying to him awhile ago. It was creepy, everyday asking if he was ready and so forth.
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>>79429918
>I am suicidal and /pol/ told me to kill myself.

It obviously didn't work, so what's the problem?
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>>79431842
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>>79430855
This makes me so angry. Even so angry that she is basically being shown as a hero in the female community. She is even appearing on the daily show or someshit next week. This is fucking disgusting.
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>>79429416
BUT WAIT - will the law be interpreted as such? Because this could set a whole new anti-h8 speech precedent online
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>>79429153
I never tell people to kill themselves. I just berate them in other ways.
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>>79429868
Teenager/10
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>>79432498
Many keks
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In a more enlightened time someone like this would've been just queitly thrown of a cliff, drowned in a lake or driven out into the wood to die
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>>79431861
You're operating on outdated morals son. At worst people will be saying the husband should have done more to please his wife, because obviously no one, let alone an empowered woman, would leave a man for better prospects
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>>79432509
This lass is a real nutter.

Impatient about it. Intensely impatient. She CRAVED it.
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>>79432509

What the fuck
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>>79432078
No, you're right. It's morally reprehensible for me to tell you to kill yourself but it's definitely not illegal. Her saying that wasn't illegal either, it's the fact that the madman actually did it.
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>>79432509
I would like to see someone read this transcript and defend it. This goes far beyond telling some rando online to "kill yourself faggot!"

This woman was egging the guy to kill himself over a period of several days/weeks? instead of just contacting his family, authorities or medical help
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>>79432509
kek
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>>79429153
Short of all the in and outs, plus other subtleties I love this ruling. It's setting a precedence
>No baby you're a princess, you can have anything
>Years later
>Holy fuck there are actual consequences to my actions
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>>79429868
shinji/10
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>>79429153
Wow. What a cunt and what a weak-willed pussy the world is better off without. There's no 'good guys' in this story, but there's no crime, either.l
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>>79433352
so what you're saying is he was a good boy and dindu nuffin she made him do it
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>>79429416
This
Also kill yourself, faggot
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>>79429153
She even looks like a bitch.
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>>79429153
can i have a few kysses please i need some love from you guys i am close to the edge.
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>>79433577
you are projecting hard dude, people like this are born that way with something fucked up in their brain and parents have nothing to do with that
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>>79429868
>>WONT STOP TALKING ABOUT HER SEX LIFE AND TAKING PLAN B
why were you even listening in the first place?
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>>79433666

Sure, Satan.

This guy had severe mental problems and she took advantage of it.
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You can't get through a single day without seeing obvious examples, everywhere you look, that the overwhelming majority of women are heartless sociopaths. We just accept it. Why should this case be any different? It's like punishing a dog for barking.
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>>79434126
You have to raise a girl just right to prevent this. It's possible, I've seen it.

Ultimately, like you convey, everything they do is for their own gratification and no one elses. But maybe just maybe they can become a woman who's gratification is being a just person.

Who knows. They are at a height of crazy now.
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>>79429153

Joseph Cataldo

Dont get yourself a lawyer with tha name of Joseph Cataldo
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>>79429868
>DOESNT REALIZE I WAS ON A BURNER PHONE
ok jessie pinkman
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>>79429153
She seems kind of cute. She's probably banter too. She was doing the kys memes; that shits hilarious when it works.

Also
>Gas yourself
How can /pol/ not like that?

I mean this qt3.14 is literally a /pol/ack with a vagina. Why the fuck are you guys being such pussies about it?
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>>79429153
Tough call. On one hand, this is certainly different than just randomly telling a stranger to kill themselves, here we have a personal relationship, a particular setting (victim actually in the process of committing suicide) - but yeah, there's the clear danger it will be broadened to "internet bullying".
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>>79435274
This. Nothing wrong that bad with telling some fag to kill himself.

The fact that he did it proves how pathetic and weak he is.

SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST
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She is a cunt and should feel bad about it but she is in no way responsible for some weak faggot killing himself over her.

She should not be punished by the law, only her conscience.
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Sure is 1984 in here. Thought you faggots liked freedom of speech, it's not like she forced the dude.

It's like girls who try to cry rape because they got "talked in" to having consensual sex.

Obviously what she did was morally wrong and she is a piece of shit person but I don't think that being a psychopath is illegal
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>>79429416
Wrong, freedom of speech is sacred. Just telling someone to "get back in" isn't force.If someone is stupid enough to "get back in", then he only has himself to blame.

She shouldn't even be charged.
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There is some context missing here

This girl was playing a long-game conspiracy to make her boyfriend commit suicide. She intended to profit off of his death by setting up some kind of charity fundraiser and manipulating everyone's pity. This is a classic case of Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy. She relished in his death.

She also went to Disney World and her high school prom ahead of his trial. She is a one-in-a-million cold blooded psychopath and a menace to society.
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>>79430855
i drink four liters of soda pop a day usually. im very active so it doesn't have that much of an effect I guess.
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>>79431023
>encourage a mentally ill person to do something shitty
>get punished
>how could this happen?

Nigga, please, how is that hard to grasp. You can even get punished if the person was not mentally ill and or suicidal.

>persuade people to rob bank
>they get caught
>you also get punished
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>>79436052
>someone does something
>you get punished for it
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>>79431509
>If the guy then hypothetically kills himself, would that make me liable for his stupid decision

Depends on the precedent set in this case. Despite the angry robots ITT, I find it hard to believe she will be convicted.

I've had girlfriends tell me they were going to kill themselves before. My response was always "Well, don't make a mess. Go with pills and liquor". Hard to believe I could be charged for that, but with weak, spineless millenials and their unending penchant for blaming everyone but themselves for their problems, that seems to be the way the world is headed.

For everyone saying telling someone you know to kill themself and someone on the internet to, well no shit. Just be aware that rights are taken incrementally, and this could end up being a very slippery slope.

Oh, and I don't know how many of you read the article, but he hadn't even seen this bitch in over a year despite living less than an hour away from her. Girlfriend my ass.
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>>79429153

Sounds good. She should have been encouraging him to get help.

Convincing someone they should kill themselves is just indirect murder.

Imagine a jew in a hypothetical holocaust being told to get back in the gas chamber.

Now replace that jew with a young white girl that wants to support pure white breeding.

How do you feel?
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>>79432509
>that entire exchange
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This is now a Michele Carter thread!
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>>79430913
Words have power Anon.
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>>79435724
You need to make some serious lifestyle changes. I don't drink that much pop in a week.
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>>79436181
>ACTIVELY encourage someone to do something illegal or really bad
>you get punished

It is really not a difficult concept. Imagine you persuade a retard that he is invincible and that he can stop trains with his bare hands. Can you see how some people might think that you did something illegal? Or imagine you persuade people to blow themselves up.
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>>79436804
>some retard does something retarded
>you are responsible for said retard's actions
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if all it takes is words from somebody that you can choose to stop talking to at any time maybe you should terminate yourself.
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>>79429153
>That face when a spoiled entitled white bitch realizes she's having a ni??er wake up call.
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bet she got away jail an ..made Her the Victim .. !
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>>79436946
I think I am being baited hard here.
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>>79429153

http://deadstate.org/here-are-the-disturbing-texts-from-michelle-carter-pressuring-her-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide/
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>>79437115
>say something
>some random faggot does something
>you get punished
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>>79429153
She should kill herself.
An eye-for-an-eye.
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>>79432509
Why the fuck would they charge her with involuntary manslaughter? This transcript and probably that phone call prove very much that her actions were voluntary as fuck.
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EVERYONE DEFENDING THE CUNT ITT IS AN UNABASHED WHITEKNIGHT

kys
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If you look at the transcripts of the text messages to the guy, this bitch is pure evil and should be hung.
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>>79437277

>ask person repeatedly when they are going to kill themselves
>push them over and over to do it
>not at all responsible

Okay.
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>>79429153
I wonder how pol would react if the genders were reversed. I don't give a shit which gender kills themselves. They are the culprit of their own suicide no one else.
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>>79437484
Kill yourself.

Now you can win this shitty argument if you actually follow through! I'll be arrested and put to trial! Honest!
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>>79437455
Dubs of truth.
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>>79429153
>telling someone to go kill themselves becomes a crime
>implying theirs anything standing of the way of telling someone to go fuck themselves

>inb4 charged with rape when someone does actually fuck them self
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>>79432509
>I gonna commit suicide lol lmao
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>>79437455
What if it was a man who told his gf to kill himself and she did?
Is it whiteknighting then?

Get your priorities straight you washed-up, unintelligent, swivelled-eyed, lack-luster memer.
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>>79432509
Women will do literally anything for attention. All of our worst fears are true.
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>>79437678

That's a lot different from pushing for it for days, giving me a method, and then walking me through it all while encouraging me until I finally die.
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>>79429153
you know what would stop this? If you ucking normie faggots would start being meaner to people on the itnernet
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>>79437789
It can't be whiteknighting by definition in your scenario, and if it was a man, they should also hang for such psychopathic behavior.

GTFO with your strawman and ad hom arguments.
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>>79429153
I'd pay to see that sociopath piece of shit violently raped by a pack of niggers.
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>>79437962
If ID's didn't change constantly I would do this for you. kys.
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>>79437962
Nigger, I'll fucking hand you a loaded gun if you agree to actually follow through with killing yourself, you fucking retarded faggot.

Kill yourself.
(Count: 2)
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>>79438033
You know what I mean by whiteknighting. Doesn't matter what gender the people are. What she did was absolute banter and great fun to read. The guy was just a beta cuck who deserved to die.
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>tell someone online to "kill yourself"
That's not what happened though. The boyfriend got into his car, filled it with fumes and then got out and phoned her, telling her he couldn't do it and she replied "Get back in the car." This isn't "lol kys noob" on Call of Duty or Rocket League or some shit. This was calculated, deliberated, persistent pushing of someone to suicide, right down the final moments of that person's life.
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>>79430264
She set up a "charity" in his name and pocketed 5 grand from it, while getting sympathy and attention on Facebook.
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>>79432509
>just do it.jpeg
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>>79437789

>What if it was a man who told his gf to kill himself and she did?

gf to kill himself and she did

That flag and can't even speak English. Hm
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>>79435660
Sorry ahmed you're not from our country you wouldn't understand our legal system.
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>>79438377
>Humans are incapable of mistakes
>To be human is to be flawless
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>>79438228
>banter
You're not fooling anyone who actually read the texts. If you're not trolling, you are on the same level of depravity as this cunt
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>>79429153
>get suicidal people to send messages to the court that if they convict her, they will kill themselves
>she gets convicted
>suicidal people kill themselves
>the jury, the judge, and the prosecutor are all charged with multiple counts of manslaughter
>get more suicidal people to do the same thing for that case
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
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>>79438557
Oh yeah, I'm just going to kill myself right now - that's how 'desperate' I am.

>Yanks in charge of identifying banter
Top kek
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>>79429416
third post best post. I agree 100%.
You will never again be this correct. Consider suicide.
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>>79435724
Enjoy your beetus.
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>>79430133
>suicide is illegal

better check your flag retard
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Dr. Manhattan is absolved of all guilt.
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>>79430133
>suicide is illegal
What the fuck they gonna do? Put your dead body to a prison?
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>>79438557
Agreed.
This cunt has taken attention whoring to psychopathic levels, starting a suicide prevention cause the next day etc.
She is clearly fucked in the head.
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Maybe she'll get boned on this one, although I'm not sure what involuntary manslaughter entails. I usually hear that for drunk drivers who kill someone. Seems like that doesn't fit, cause she did it intentionally.

I don't know. Free speech has limits. Can't yell fire in a theatre so maybe you can't tell weak willed men to kill themselves.
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>>79435660
>spend 2 years building deep emotional bond with impressionable person
>exploit bond over time to create/foster suicidal thoughts
>uncover and promote suicidal tendencies
>during the act of suicide, knowingly convince the person BACK INTO suicide after they have made the decision not to kill themselves

>but words =/= acts
extended psycological manipulation, even if done by an idiot, is a lot different than shitposting on a french surrender methodology snapchat feed.

If he had killed someone else rather than himself and she had spent as long convincing him to do that, she'd be going away for conspiracy to commit murder (think Charles Manson). Since the suicide act of '61 decriminalized suicide, there's no "conspiracy to commit suicide" charge available so this is the next most specific charge.

>Involuntary manslaughter
Death resulting from reckless negligence
>Reckless negligence
A person knew (or could be reasonable expected to know) their actions would likely cause harm to another
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>>79429918
Wait for the happening then snackbar yourself into some lefties.

Do it, Anon. Do it for MAGA
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>>79438966
Use your goddamned brain son. If suicide was legal, cops couldn't stop you in the act, because it's not a crime. It's a suicide prevention measure, not a punishment.
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/pol/

i'll do whatever you say...

please don't tell me to kill myself...

please.....
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>>79429153
Why's she on trial but those mudoslimo guys who preach death to gays are not?
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>>79429153

There's a pretty big difference between online generic threats and being someone's SO and repeatedly telling them to actually get back in a suicide chamber and kill themselves and urging them to do it repeatedly. Why do you guys have such a shitty habit of drawing bad parallels and equating things that aren't equivalent?

Online strangers saying kill yourself is not the same as someone who is literally suicidal and currently attempting suicide being told by someone close to them to go through with it repeatedly. Get your head out of your fucking ass.
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>>79429416
This.

More importantly from what I understand this wasn't like a one time incident or something - she had supposedly been goading him to commit suicide for weeks.
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>Guy numb and bleary from crippling depression gets out of his truck with a tiny shred of remaining will power to not kill himself.

"Get back in truck" text from women who drove him to this.

Sadistic psycho bitch. She'll only get a few weeks in jail and probation since she is young. She'll be fucked up for life though that's a heavy cross to bear
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>>79439315
>try to kill yourself
>fail
>go to prison
Fucking Canada, might aswell hope I don't fail if I was Canadian.
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>>79439402
>GF
>18

He was so mentally unstable he was probably going to do it anyway; she just helped him.
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>>79439541
>missing the point this hard
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>>79439468
>psychos
>carring about what they did
>>79439628
I understand what you mean, it's just bantz.
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Listening to a woman, he deserved it.
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>>79439468
Saved him from a life of getting walked on by everybody who has the power of speech though.
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>>79429153
No the guy was a beta retard

If words hurt you then turn off your phone
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>>79429970
What if he did it because daddy didn't give him an xbox for his birthday?

Kys
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>>79429153
I usually am really for freedom of speech, even terrible speech, but in this case it's a woman and I have real problems with women so my view in this case is that she should be executed.
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>>79432078
What the fuck are you talking about?? Laws are just morals coded into law.

case and point dogfighting

>5 years fed time for killing your OWN DOG in a dog fight

>you can take a dog to a vet to be put down legally

Same end result, your property is lost, yet one is federal time, the other is not why? MORALS
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>>79439315
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Act_1961
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He fucking killed himself, that was his own choice, she didn't force him to do anything. The court is retarded. What is so bad about him committing suicide anyway, it was probably the right decision
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>>79429153
Jesus Christ, how cold-hearted do you have to be?
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>>79429153
this is bullshit and an attack on freedom of speech. What the fuck is this country coming to?
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>>79439874
>she didn't force him to do anything


EXCUSE ME NIGGER?

DID YOU -READ- THE LOG?

THE NIGGER TRIED TO BACK OUT AND HIS GIRLFRIEND SAYS "GET BACK IN"
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>>79433352
She did nothing. That faggot could have blocked her.

Have you ever dealt with a suicidal person? They are fucking annoying and I have had the urge to thell them just fuck off and do it. This sets a bad precedent.
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That's not the whole story. My dad works at Michelle Carter and he showed me the actual final text message exchange before Conrad re-entered the truck that has been redacted.

Conrad: Wake me up inside
Michelle: Can't wake up.
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>>79439219
This
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>>79429623
Telling some random fucker to kill themselves for being stupid isn't the same as harassing we someone for an extended period of time until they commit suicide.
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>>79439791
Yeah, and Bob McDonnell's unanimous case ruling shows the opposite. That's why it doesn't necessarily make something illegal.

I'm not even going to go in whether there are good laws and bad laws like blue laws. I stand by my statement that this case sets a dangerous precedent.
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>>79440088
This is specifically the defense the court ruled on

>"In sum, we conclude that there was probable cause to show that the coercive quality of the defendant's verbal conduct overwhelmed whatever willpower the eighteen year old victim had to cope with his depression, and that but for the defendant's admonishments, pressure, and instructions, the victim would not have gotten back into the truck and poisoned himself to death,"
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How is anyone on /pol/ on the side of the courts with this? Yes she's a shit person but if she can go to jail for telling someone to kill themselves so can we for calling someone a fat cow.
Does nobody else see the precedent that's about to be set?
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>>79436052
I think you should rob a bank anon. Go on, do it. See if I care.
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>>79440359
this. next thing you know you're in prison because you thought about someone wrong
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>>79440131
Its not her fault the guy was stupid

If i tell you to stick something up your ass and you do, do i have to pay the medical bill then?
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>>79440359

>muh political incorrectness!

You ever told someone to kill themselves in private messages for months? Encouraging it by being a loving friend?
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Read the fucking immediate transcript.
>http://deadstate.org/here-are-the-disturbing-texts-from-michelle-carter-pressuring-her-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide/

The are previous texts that are over months and months, talking him into it slowly.
After this transcript stops he got scared and got out of the truck when it started working, she talked him back in over phone.

The same day she is whoring it up on twatter, starts suicide prevention cause.
The kids was a naive little pussy but he didn't want to die.
If you're defending this bitch you're psychopathic.
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>>79429868
the only time to get in touch with an ex is around her 30th birthday, trust me on this one
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>>79436804
>Or imagine you persuade people to blow themselves up.
Or imagine there's a book that persuades people to blow themselves up. Shall we ban it? Burn them all?
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>>79440131
So? Get a gun and kys or go shoot up a church. If she gets convicted then the LEOs can no longer perform stings either.

Did I just force you to do those things I suggested?
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>>79440359
She harassed him for a while and goaded him into killing himself. It wasn't like she texted him "kill yourself, like, right now OK?" Out of nowhere and he complied. She knew he was suicidal, and she spent a lot of time convincing him to kill himself. It's not like she was unaware of his suicidal thoughts.
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>>79440628
I never knew a book with information was comparable to someone directly engaging with someone over months until they commit an act.
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In Canada that's considered a medical procedure.
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>>79438911
What he did was necessary anyway. Any idiot could see that.
Go read the story again.
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This won't be much of a trial. It's not about whether or not she "did it". We all know that she fucking sent those messages beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's about whether or not the jury thinks what she did was right or wrong. I think this is a farce. If she's charged and it's obvious she did it, she should be guilty, normally.

But this trial isn't really about guilt, it's about morality. I think that's wrong.
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>>79429416
This.

She had been telling him to kill himself for weeks leading up to this. I can see if she maybe just got angry and said it once and then he did it but this exhibits a clear pattern of malicious fuckery and she should be punished. Hell it would have been more humane to just shoot the guy in the head instead of torturing him into killing himself
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>>79438911
Dr Manhattan was a literal cuckold prick.
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>>79438966
If you fail you get a huge fine and put in an institution for being a literal nuisance
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>>79440088
freedom of speech is not protected when it is a solicitation to commit a crime such as suicide
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>>79440553
>he didn't want to die
VALAR MORGHULIS
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>>79440509
I did once on /lgbt/, offered to hold someone as they passed out from poison so they wouldn't die alone, and I would even rock them and sing to them and tell them they were pretty.
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>>79440991
If someone wants you to kill yourself why do you keep associating with them?

It's his fault for being manipulated like a retard
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>>79432509
>setting up a suicide prevention fundraiser

jebus, this woman.
Is she Jewish?
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>>79439791
why?

the death of an animal due to any form of cruelty is up to 5 years depending on where you live. It's not "dog fighting vs poisoning", it's "cruelty vs a 'humane' regulated procedure"

If I pull the plug on my grandma, she dies. If I shoot my grandma in the face, she dies. These two things are not the same.
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>>79432509
I feel kinda dirty and guilty reading this.
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>>79441122
He had a pretty crummy way of showing it, then.

When I don't want to die, I don't fill my house with carbon monoxide.
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>>79429153
I think the real crime here is telling the guy how exactly to kill himslef.
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>>79441223
He clearly suffered from massive levels of depression anon. I know you guys like to act like you would do something different but pretend you were in his shoes.
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>>79432509
>LOL
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>>79436181
You can get punished for inciting a riot.
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Motherfucker should have said ladies first.
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>>79429153
>1 post

You shills are getting clever now aren't you? Still 2/10 lurkmoar and Sage.
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Here are the logs (WARNING: Depressing/Offensive/Disturbing/This may make you upset at the girl)

http://deadstate.org/here-are-the-disturbing-texts-from-michelle-carter-pressuring-her-boyfriend-to-commit-suicide/

After these logs took place, and learning that the boy killed himself, she took to twitter and acted completely shocked, saying "I don't know how something like this could happen". She opened a fundraider in his name, and pocketed $5,000 from the charity, in addition to winning the sympathy and affection from her friends.

She literally killed her boyfriend for money and attention.

Lock her up and throw away the key if you ask me.
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>>79429697
>who you know is in the process of committing suicide as you speak

if he was in the process of committing suicide when she said it, how is she liable?

it's like if I tell you to get stabbed right as some abo cunt is running at you with a knife, do I get charged as an accessory?

freedom of speech you stupid leaf, kill urself
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>>79441343
If I had massive levels of depression I wouldn't associate with some bitch telling me to kill myself
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>>79441445
>She opened a fundraider in his name, and pocketed $5,000 from the charity
oh hell no bitch deserves to rot now
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>>79438966
Nah mate punishment is death
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>>79440890
>What he did was necessary anyway.
Maybe you should read it again because he failed.
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>>79440472
good. now get in touch with that anon, and over the course of 2 years convince him to rob a bank then when he's driving home after deciding not to do it, convince him to turn around and rob the bank then start a "bank robbing fundraiser" to cover your involvement. Enjoy prison.
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So I told my bf to kill himself...

And he actually did it the madman hahahahahah
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>>79441514
When you are suffering from depression you would desperately associate with anyone giving you the time of day she probably didn't push suicide on him 24/7 and started doing it later .
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>>79429153
Dang... I better warn all my /b/ros.
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>>79432509

Ok, how in the actual fuck had she not been diagnosed as an actual psychopath before she did all this?
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>>79429868
>tells everyone on the internet
good job faggot.
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That's not the full story.

She did it because she was becoming popular on social media by virtue signalling over his distress, and figured she'd become more popular if he offed himself.
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I used to know someone who constantly threatened suicide. Eventually I tired of his shit and told him to get it over with. I can empathize with this girl. People who threaten suicide to garner sympathy piss me off.
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>>79429416
cancuk is right
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Why don't you guys do one of those idiotic twitter troll things you do?

Like, support Michelle Carter's innocence by tweeting #killyourself
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