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A liar or a joker. When will the world realise democracy doesn't
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A liar or a joker.
When will the world realise democracy doesn't work?
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democracy is the worst system of government on the planet except for every single other one.
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"Adulthood is realizing that the joker makes more sense"
-Me
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>>79423016

>When will the world realise democracy doesn't work?

When ur mum stops choking on my thick shaft m8.
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WHERE IS HE
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>>79423094

Yeah, man, that feel when going from a child romanticizing democracy into an adult realizing that it's far, far from perfect.
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>>79423094
hey, my government teacher in high school used to say that. were you my government teacher in high school?
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>>79423400

Western democracies are now undoing themselves by immigration. Our democracies have been hijacked and are now corrupt beyond salvation. Most governmental institutions, and the people in these institutions must burn.
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our government isn't a democracy though
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>>79423602
That's a quote from Winston Churchill.
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Trump is Bane you faggot
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>>79423016
They're both liars and jokers.
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>>79423016
>When will the world realise democracy doesn't work?
>When will the world realise monarchy doesn't work?
>When will the world realise dictatorship doesn't work?
>When will the world realise anarchy doesn't work?
>When will the world realise socialism doesn't work?


No system of government actually works. Every system of government is flawed. What actually works, (what creates stable, secure, growing societies) is culture. Political systems are just a manifestation of a society's underlying culture. They work when the culture is working, they fail when the culture is failing.
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>>79425053
You're actually on to something. The process of government is far more important than its structure.

You ever read Arthur Bentley's "The Process of Government"? It's an ex-classic that almost no one has heard of, but it's the most important book on politics I've ever read. I recommend it often but I know most people won't be able to muscle through it, because it's over 100 years old.

Here's an article by a guy who reviewed the book/used it for analysis:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/08/11/conflict-of-interests

To adjust what you said slightly, Bentley would argue that political systems are the manifestation of the struggles between various interest groups in a given society... not necessarily the culture. What you call culture Bentley called "the habit background", or the tendencies for a society to behave a certain way, and pursue their political goals a certain way.

You can find it for free online because of how old it is. It's also on Amazon. Super important book.
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I would choose a Democracy over a Monarchy anyday, Why do you Brits love your queen so much?
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>>79425700
Interesting, I will have to look into that.

>political systems are the manifestation of the struggles between various interest groups in a given society

True but "manifestation" implies a somewhat spontaneous formation. I would say political systems are designed to mediate the struggles between various interest groups in a given society. The whole point of the system is to resolve such conflicts without violence. The political system starts to fail when various groups become convinced these conflicts cannot be resolved non-violently. This coincides with a failure of the underlying culture to provide other means short of violence to resolve conflicts.

Politics is only one system for resolving struggles between groups. Cultures will have multiple systems for mediating group based struggles involving politics, economics, religion, family ties, etc. These systems help mediate conflicts within each other, so the breakdown of one is often a symptom of the other systems breaking down and failing to support it.
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>>79423016
>broken lunatic that makes decisions based entirely on a coin flip
>absolute genius level intellect capable of even regularly outsmarting the Goddamn Batman

Tough choice...
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>>79423335
Trump is actually a lot more like Bane then the Joker.
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>>79423335
Thats Mitt "Bane Capital" Romney
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>>79427965
>I would say political systems are designed to mediate the struggles between various interest groups in a given society.

You're right, I just was sloppy with my word choice. Bentley refers to the political system as a "differentiated group" that serves the interests of others, while also having it's own (i.e. politicians don't want to lose power).

As for the rest of your comment, if I didn't know any better I would assume you've already read the book. Although:

>This coincides with a failure of the underlying culture to provide other means short of violence to resolve conflicts.

In Bentley's terms, the failure would actually result because one particular group (or coalition of groups) managed to exclude a rival group from the political process so well that they had nothing to pursue their interests with except violence. And, also, they were strong enough to take up arms.
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The world realized that just the other day, or didn't you pay attention to the reactions to Brexit?
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>>79423016
>0.20 Reichsmark have been transfered to your account
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The joker ia fucking cool
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>>79429797
> if I didn't know any better I would assume you've already read the book

Never even heard of it. I'm reading the New Yorker article you linked now, and I've downloaded a PDF of the book. Most of my understanding of the groupishness of human psychology (and thus politics) comes from Johnathan Haidt's work.

>In Bentley's terms, the failure would actually result because one particular group (or coalition of groups) managed to exclude a rival group from the political process so well that they had nothing to pursue their interests with except violence. And, also, they were strong enough to take up arms.

This largely describes the state of white Americans today, with even the discussion of white interests excluded from politics by anti-racists. In my view this exclusion was tolerated for decades because whites could use economics to directly advance their interests, and could indirectly defend their interests in the political realm by emphasizing the rule of law. Today, the economic harm to the white working class caused by globalism, and the subversion of the rule of law vis a vi illegal migration, have combined to create a crisis for white Americans that is pushing them to violence.
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