1. Bernie Sanders: looks like he is about to give up and endorse Clinton or drop out after his Obama meeting and the amount of shilling she is getting which leads me to
2. Hillary Clinton: the corrupt criminal. Ugh
3. The Donald: I just don't like him and don't trust him. Even you guys admit he's jewish (I personally don't care but you guys all do) and still shill for him so don't try to make me vote for someone I don't like.
4. Gary Johnson: Complete establishment plant that doesn't even line up with many libertarian values like gun control. Wasn't considering him much anyway but doubt I will which brings us to
5. Jill Stein: Pretty much Bernie if he had the balls to stand up to Clinton
>inb4 nazis and racists slide this thread to the archives
Any leftists still alive on /pol/ what do you guys think? Please no trolling
>>79415620
Also, Hillary Clinton will usher in the North American Union for her globalist masters, there will be no more United States of America if she becomes POTUS.
One of the strongest reasons to vote against Hillary is that she is wide open to blackmail by all those nations that bought favors from her, or copied damning emails off of her server.
>>79415620
Cancel debt? Like College debt? Do these retards even understand how money works?
>>79416013
The same way I don't like Trump but understand some of his support
I do like Clinton but cannot support her corruption unless I absolutely have to. She is just evil.
>>79416286
No trolls please. If you understood anything about debt, you would know that having money means you are in debt to the federal reserve dummy. The establishment can fix debt, they just need the right leader.
>>79416657
What about private schools? You can't just tell a business to just give up the money they earned. If you think so then you'll probably learn why communism fails.
Fucking faggot. I just rektd you in two messages. Liberals are fucking garbo tier debaters.
>>79416845
Idk that's for them to figure out
This thread is just about who us lefty /pol/acks should support. I have laid out my opinion on the top 5 available canidates and want to hear other opinions.
threadly reminder. You're not welcome here
>>79417685
Go complain about black men stealing your women and cry about hitler losing or something
>>79416013
>Sanders
>Pro second amendment
You are on cocaine if you think that is true. He voted against one law while in vermont about making gun manufacturers liable for victims of shootings, because the law was horseshit. After that? Everything out of his mouth has been "WE NEED AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN YOU DONT NEEEED AN AR-15 FUCK HIGH CAPACITY ASSAULT CLIPAZINES"
>>79417681
"that's for them to figure out" You're a fucking retard please pour bleach in your cock so you can't reproduce.
>>79417276
just remember to sage, they're blatantly posting jewish twitter shit, they are shills
>>79417765
>muh 2nd amendment
Yeah we get it, you all want to overthrow the government with your assault rifles
I'm not anti-gun I just am ok with a president that doesn't want assault rifles in the hands of people that shouldn't have them.
I mean alcohol should be banned for anyone with a gun shouldn't it? I don't think even guns nuts think a depressed angry divorced drunk should have access to military firepower should he?
You fucking morons.
>>79418093
You can't do much about drunk drivers because they can drink and drive, just like you can't do much about drunk gunmen because they can drink and have a gun. Guns are just like Cars except ones a right.
>>79418072
>>79417760
Go back to lereddit if you want a safe space with no conflicting opinions.
You close minded idiots probably don't even lik Jim Webb
>>79417760
go complain about white people being the fault that you have no life, or having to actually work for your living, commie hipster faggot. You cancerous shits are everywhere now YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE
>>79418217
No need to hate on Bernie, i already stated he is likely a disappointment and is abandoning us.
This thread is about where we go next.
>>79418326
What are you talking about faggot? I'm debating you and I already won an argument and i'm going to win more because i'm smarter than you.
>>79418434
We go to Trump next. Jill doesn't stand a chance.
>>79418387
GOOD THING THIS IS /pol/ AND NOT REBBIT THEN
Say something useful or fuck off
>>79418573
What about for those of us that don't like Trump and don't trust him?
>>79415620
>Even you guys admit he's jewish
Trump himself is not jewish. His daughter is jewish.
>>79418326
The only close-minded idiots here are you faggots.
I don't mind hearing a classical liberal argument if it's factual.
You social justice whiners have only misinformation and safe spaces.
You are and always will be the enemy here.
I didn't bust my ass at work since childhood to have some little scrawny starbucks swilling hipster faggot half my age tell me what politics are. You narcissistic cunts.
My loved ones didn't die for this land just to see it taken over by faggots
>>79418657
You know you're gonna be voting for Hillary Warren anyway.
>>79418657
You don't trust him? Why? also funny how you just expect Jill just to "Figure it out" You're a faggot
>>79415620
Im voting Clinton just to stop Donald.
In 2020 I'll vote for the Moderate Establishment Republican to get rid of Hillary, she's dangerous more than 1 term. In 2024 hopefully we can get a real progressive in the WH.
>>79418791
Where'd you get that picture of Hillary Clinton posing with a real authentic Native American princess?
>>79415620
Clearly a shill thread, I see you degenerates post about shilling to split the vote.
ITT: shills trying to act like progressives.
Protip: we don't call ourselves "leftists"
Saged, hidden.
>>79418589
you first commie
I may be a right wing authoritarian but at least I'm honest about it
>>79415620
>Stricter gun control
Lol eat shit
>>79417681
>us lefty /pol/acks
>no trolls please
Nice try, Trump shill.
I'm voting for Trump to keep Hillary out. So should all of you.
>m-muh liberal values!!
Hillary doesn't have them. Stein has them but can't win.
>>79415620
Cancel debts? wtf do you think this is? Greece?
>>79415620
/natsoc/ here, I'll play nice and not focus on Jill and Bernie's ethnicity.
You just have to be realistic. We're fucked.
>>79418693
What is this a picture for ants?
>>79418717
Whatever
>>79418791
I don't want to but if I have to I will
>pic related
Loki was a cool bad guy at least
>>79418875
Because I like her and trust her
This is why I sage every one of these threads.
You fucking lefties can't justify your shit politics.
You just shitpost and then assume that people will just suddenly listen and believe.
This is why you marxists deserve to die
>>79419049
>everyone I disagree with is a shill
Not an argument kid
Hillary is the one that pays people to shill here. I wish Bernie or Jill could afford to pay me
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/21/hillary-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook.html
am i doing right?
>>79419288
So why not force Clinton to acknowledge Stein and VP her at least or something?
From what I have seen, Jill is better than Clinton in literally every single way.
Fuck you and your party politics, this is why i supported bernie.
>>79419529
Who cares, we have 5 choices until Bernie drops out (maybe he won't but it's becoming clear he will not stand up to the establishment the way he promised)
If there is one thing I envy about Trump, it is his "Never Give Up" attitude. I don't like him but you guys are lucky to have a canidate that keeps fighting till the end.
Anyone who submits to Clinton is pretty bad imho senpai
>>79420158
bernie will put us 18 trillion dollars into debt, great idea moron
>>79420096
Thats how it pretty much is except I'm more like this in the background
>>79419772
>I don't want to but if I have to I will
>voting for the biggest, most corrupt Wall Street sellout and her new, bought out lapdog who is betraying her progressive principles
Hell, closest thing you're going to get to a revolution is voting Trump in - at least he could fuck up the establishment.
>>79417685
>muh bastion of free speech!
Even if they're not welcome here, you'll be the one to leave in shame once Drumpf loses the general. Stay mad, faggot.
>>79420442
>muh debt
That's all our modern world economy is built on retard
What do you suggest, we just erase everything and all fight till the death until we are all amish wth no technology at all?
>>79415620
>liberals
>pol
>>79420636
I want an anti-establishment liberal canidate I like and can trust though.
Im obviously heavily leaning towards jill but Trump and Hillary are still on the table. Gary Johnson and the libertarian convention were pretty embarassing though, so he's not really someone I would support
I thought Bernie Sanders already said a week or so ago that he is going to vote for Hillary Clinton and suggested that his supporters should do the same?
>>79420886
Not an argument you nazi
>>79420158
>force Clinton
>to do ANYTHING
Have fun with that. I'm sure you'll be just as successful as when we tried to force her to acknowledge Sanders represented the party better.
>>79421063
We supported him because we thought he represented us. He was a liar and he betrayed us. He can say whatever he wants.
>>79415620
Daily reminder that true lefties are standing with Hillary knowing that the only progress involves pragmatism. Sanders holdouts will not be dealt with lightly under the coming Hillary admin. Don't be on the wrong side of history.
>>79419049
>Protip: we don't call ourselves "leftists"
What do you call yourselves then?
>>79419049
>we don't call ourselves "leftists"
Confirmed for being a reactionary know-nothing teathuglican. "Lefty," and "Leftist," are not slurs in OUR community.
What happens to me, a poorfag, if I don't want to work in a socialist/communist society? Am I going to be shunned/gulaged for being "alienated"?
>>79420994
Don't be stupid. Only Trump or Hillary can win this election and Hillary is the only candidate with the experience for the job. Despite what the conspiratards are trying to spin up again and again, everyone knows she has been above the fray and server her country instead of right win christian extremists like the GOP.
Decisions matter anon, and this November you have to choose between a confident executive woman or a fanatical racist idiot. Don't pretend that voting third party and letting Trump get in office makes you any less guilty.
>>79421063
From the start many of us were scared he would give in to Clinton
Our nightmares are coming true and now we need somewhere to go.
It's like a refugee crisis all over again
>>79421217
Sanders likely sold out when he met with Obama as is somewhat common for politicians
>>79418093
>assault rifles
buzzwords/10 you fucking faggot.
Here is my favorite assault rifle 10, its range is nearly 1200 meters.
ITT: right wing /pol/ trying to pretend to be open minded.
It's always been frustrating that this place is just as bad as tumblr in terms of open-mindedness. Yeah some people here are liberals, but don't treat them like the retarded normies. Theres a reason we're here. I consider myself to be red-pilled on most of the same issues that pol is but in some ways that just enforces my liberalism.
>Black people generally have lower IQ
Well yeah, that's why affirmative action makes a bit of sense. Any social darwinist will tell you that creating a standard of education is good for genetic drift in the long run.
>Muslims are more likely to be terrorists
This one's tough because I consider myself to be a nationalist and the arms wide open views of most liberals piss me off.
The point is though. Th liberals that hang around here are at least somewhat based. Don't treat them the same as your fucking average normie. And we won't treat you the same as the right wing, white trash retarded hicks.
>>79421753
>>79421524
Ignore the Shills4Hill
They literally double speak and call other non-shills shills.
>>79422598
and here's mine. its range is 2000 m, but thats a soft cap on the range.
>>79421071
>implying "nazi" is an insult
>>79422746
>slavshit as far as the eye can see
Typical /k/ posters.
>>79422613
Any social darwinist will tell you they need to either adapt or be genocided.
>>79422854
yeah boi
>>79422613
Also the main reason I'll vote liberal for now is climate change. You guys are retarded for thinking climate change isn't real. People have SO MUCH to gain from it not being real and very little to gain from it being real. Until conservatives come around to the idea of global warming, I'll never vote for them. You guys have been brainwashed by big business if you think humans aren't accelerating climate change.
>>79422094
>uses the word conspiratard
>uses the right wing christian extremist scare tactic
>clinton the confident executive
Are you shills even allowed to admit there is a lot wrong with her?
I don't like Trump, BUT I DONT LIKE BEING LIED TO BY CLINTON SHILLS EITHER
You establishment people keep telling us to just go along with your bullshit and it pisses us off just as much as a madman like Trump. Fuck you and your shitty shill job, I will vote Trump if you keep this up.
>>79422613
>>Black people generally have lower IQ
Niggers are retarded for a reason, they are not naturally selected by their intellect/empathy in the environment where they evolved.
AA is just continuing the trend desu.
If liberalism is about equal humans beings and shit, any other solution that doesn't involve eugenics would be ultimately ineffective.
>>79416013
This
Get over the "Tromp's a le Nazi" meme. It's just media misinformation.
>>79415620
>Libertarian values like gun control
Gun control is antithetical to libertarianism.
>>79422613
Seriously
What have I done that makes me an "SJW" other than not agree with the far right hitler worshippers?
They just ad hominem like tumblr fags
>>79422955
>Also the main reason I'll vote liberal for now is climate change.
>I believe the govt scientists about climate change even though they change measuring metrics to match their conclusions
>I also dont mind that they have never released raw data as the public, senators included, dont have the security clearance or the need to know to be allowed access to the data
Yeah buddy, keep thinking its just as they say it is.
>>79422823
Hitler was a national SOCIALIST
I more or less "get" him and understand history better than you think
>>79422613
>YOU'WE HUWTING MY FEEWINGS ;_;
Jeez, guy.
>I consider myself to be a nationalist and the arms wide open views of most liberals piss me off
Same. I like multicultural activities, languages, hanging out with people from around the world and all that other Saturday morning cartoon stuff, but welfare immigrants and terrorists aren't some Republican fairytale.
>>79423276
Be that as it may, using nazi in the context of an insult is worthless against someone who takes pride in it.
>>79423105
I don't even follow their party and even I know that.
When he said he was in favor of gun control I immediately knew he was an establishment shill.
Lefty /pol/?
are you guys fucking serious?
>>79422955
>climate change
Mankind affects the climate, sure.
But they are ridiculously insignificant when compared to natural factors.
Trudeau's forest fire (which he denied aid for one month) had emitted more CO2 than years of industrial emission.
>People have SO MUCH to gain from it not being real and very little to gain from it being real
>Climate change is real because people I don't like may gain from it
If that is your reasoning to take which side of the climate change argument, then you are being lazy and wrong.
>>79423387
There are only nazi neckbeards trying to attack me for being leftist
I am not trying to attack them
>>79423494
Yeah, they have a board on cripplechan, it's the most cringeworthy fucking shit.
>>79422955
I don't know how anyone could disagree with environmentalism. Whatever your ideology, if the planet becomes ruined, nothing matters.
>>79423494
>yfw people have different ideas than yourself within your hugboxing circlejerk
>>79415620
>4. Gary Johnson: Complete establishment plant that doesn't even line up with many libertarian values like gun contro
I dont like him but he is pro gun, his VP is another story though, but he has always been pro gun
>>79423686
It's just that Socialism is a bad idea that will lead to death and famine
It has never worked in its pure form and goes against human nature
imo its just a stupid idea tbqh, famm
>>79423523
The burden of proof is on you though. 99% of scientists believe that we are causing climate change and that its a problem. So your claim is that they are lying for some reason. But my point is that they have little to gain from lying.
>>79423769
>Q: Do you carry a gun?
>A: I don't, and I don't own a gun
Sounds like he is just shilling for the establishment and being retarded at the convention still.
To be honest, I have never liked Gary Johnson and don't plan on starting. The list of reasons is just too long
>legalize meth bro
>>79423284
My feelings aren't hurt. This place has just become anti-tunblr. You guys have become everything you hated and it's just funny is all.
I agree with your second point though. It is a real issue. I don't have hate for Muslims like a lot of people here do. I believe that most of them are good people. But they are definitely violent at a higher rate than practicers of other religions. Their womens rights views are atrocious for the most part as well. They're like where christianity was in the 13th century. They need an enlightenment.
>>79424027
Capitalism is just the other side of the coin to communism.
Hitler understood socialism
>>79424071
>But my point is that they have little to gain from lying.
Aside from grant money being thrown at them, what could they possibly have to gain?
>>79423625
>buying into the msm straw man
If you honestly believe that a significant amount of people are against cc is too retarded to get that, then you are the retard.
What people are arguing are not >Fuck the earth more money from me.
People are arguing the abusing of environmentalism that ultimately profits big established corporates.
When CC tax are implemented, the big players of the industry aren't the one who suffers the most because of it. It is the smaller business or factories that will get the harder blunt of the effect.
Unlike the big players, they don't have the capital to compete on a carbon tax economy when the big players can easily move their factories to china to avoid them at all.
When the competition dies out, that's when the big guys fuck the people off and the lefties whines EVUL CORPORATIONS.
>>79424312
There's got to be some way to make socialism work without the genocides and invading Poland.
>>79424071
See >>79424441
Human made climate change is insignificant.
When you model them such that the CO2 emission will multiplied by 2 every year, then it'll be a serious problem.
Problem is, that's not what happened, or will be happening.
All the models, that these 'scientist' used, predicted that lots of islands will be submerged in 10 years, 20 years ago. Where in fact, these simply doesn't happen in reality.
>>79423686
During the boards inception, while /pol/ identity was still up for grabs, and ideological arguments were 24/7, the right wing, in general, won by landslide, not trough shouting down, insults or calling shill like now, but simply by presenting more convincing arguments.
Left wing ideals rely heavily on essentials, left wingers hold values that are essentially different from the right. This is the most important difference, as you cannot assume everyone will automatically lean towards you simply because of your attempts at a moral highground. In a place like 4chan, in which the core are rather amoral and apathethic, this was keenly felt. Leftist discourse fell trough back then, a board identity was forged, while saying "/pol/ is right wing" would be absolutist, it is clear that the one here who has to prove themselves is those on the left.
Taking a dismissive attitude and attempting to name call others will obviously have you labeled a shill.
>>79424626
>implying genocide
>implying a small conflict between poland and germany justifies communists, capitalists british and french to go to war for their centralized banks.
Keep trying shill
You'll trick someone one day
>>79415620
Bernie Sanders is also an establishment plant and supports Hillary now.
Jill Stein said something good about Trump once.
Looks like your only choice is Trump
>>79424899
Intelligent Challenges are welcome
Not all liberals are tumblr SJW cucks like you generalizing oversimplifiers like to believe.
Saying #notallmuslims is the same as saying #AllLiberalsAreCucks
>>79425162
>le holocaust never happened maymay
When you tell dumb lies about one issue, people assume you're lying about everything else as well.
>>79425403
Why is socialism, an ideology that discourages hard work and achievements, will be effective in an industrial and individualistic nation like the US?
What kind of 'motivation' would a socialistic economy give to keep the 3rd world's populated nation with each their own dreams and wants, work hard and smart so that other nations doesn't out compete them?
>>79420775
sounds good, at least one of us will still survive.
As long as you're dead
>>79424312
When in our modern times did Capitalism (Government not interfering with a Free Market and businesses within this free market competing with each other) cause a famine or mass hunger?
It's not the late 1800s anymore where the Capitalist takes advantage of the worker, there are now laws in place that protect the worker and don't interfere with the business's ability to compete with other businesses
So why is Capitalism so wrong?
Isn't what you're really fighting against Monopolies and blind consumerism?
imo Capitalism is really nice
>>79426210
Explain how monopolies aren't the inevitable product of free markets with no interference.
>>79425837
I admit socialism requires unity
That is a topic for another thread though.
This is about our current election and the 5 available canidates for left leaning /pol/acks
>>79426615
So do you believe that the US have unity among its people?
If don't then how would you rationalize voting for socialistic policies?
>>79425648
It was greatly exaggerated and Jews werent 100% innocent (they declared war on germany twice in the decades prior to WW2).
The japs got more unfairly imprisoned and they don't ever pull the victim card about that blatant unnecessary racism.
Learn your history and stop shilling/getting brainwashed.
>>79426210
Capitalism got us the corrupt oligarchy we have now.
>>79422019
as per usual liberals are as bad as us. at least we're honest about it
>>79426784
Conversation for anothe thread, but I would rather work on unity than continue the international capitalist oligarchy we currently have.
>>79424899
I bet you don't even know who anteater is.
>>79415620
>""""""""libertarian""""""""""" in favor of gun control
Only one way to deal with that.
>>79426963
>>79426859
Your 'corrupt oligarchy' in your nation results in the best economy of the world with one, if not, the highest living standard for its people.
>>79415620
Women should be 100% behind Jill Stein because they can vote for a woman without any guilt, if Bernie would just support her I feel like she'd be a Top 3 candidate overnight.
>>79426904
SO LETS BE HONEST TOGETHER THEN
I get it
You guys laugh at lefty memes and think it means the whole left is retarded
Well (((they))) laugh at occupy democrat memes and think the whole right is retarded
Does anyone here watch david rubin or other dissatisfied anti-status quo leftists? Or do you all just hugbox while crying about how hitler lost and then fap to trump using your tears in between anime episodes?
>>79426546
monopolies can't form if there are other still other businesses with better quality goods/services at more affordable prices
Monopolies can't form if there is still competition that a Free Market promotes
>>79426859
Doesn't socialism always end up in an oligarchy? It never REALLY ends up in the hands of the people
Capitalism doesn't or at least shouldn't influence government
>>79415620
Green Party is full of medical quacks that believe in Naturopathy and veganism.
>>79420013
No OP, your shillness is obvious as fuck.
Progressives don't refer to themselves as a "lefty" or "leftist"
>>79427165
>youtube personalities
Are you admitting that you are cancer now?
Or is that a topic for another thread?
>>79426804
>Jews weren't 100% innocent
Nobody ever is.
>The japs got more unfairly imprisoned
They were unfairly imprisoned, but the Jews got objectively more unfairly imprisoned. They were treated worse and executed on a far greater scale, and this denial is ridiculous.
>and they don't ever pull the victim card
They aren't 'pulling a card' when they demand reparations and apologies, both of which they do. You haven't heard about it because Japanese Americans are an abstract instrument of debate for you, not actual people.
>>79418093
>I mean alcohol should be banned for anyone with a gun shouldn't it? I don't think even guns nuts think a depressed angry divorced drunk should have access to military firepower should he?
uhhh, yes?
My question is, why aren't you guys shilling to bernie supporters so they vote for Jill?
>>79418093
>not wanting get to be made into a felon by the stroke of a pen
>Ur just a delusional gunnut! UR AR-15 CAN'T STOP DRONES.
Yeah we get it, you have no skin in the game and so will gladly throw your fellow countrymen under the bus for some promised "security."
>>79427228
>monopolies can't form if there are other still other businesses with better quality goods/services at more affordable prices
One company getting big enough to leverage economy of scale against any possible competition does not qualify as a monopoly?
>>79421753
No, OP is a Trump shill trying to split the vote.
They literally had a thread going here on /pol/ yesterday talking about how they should convince us to split the vote by pushing support for Jill and pretending to be liberal. I never said it was a slur, what I said is progressives never refer to themselves as such. Which we don't, OP is clearly a trump shill.
Sage your comments
>>79427165
"lets be together" heard that shit before
your shitty beliefs go on despite how many died to give us a free land, your beliefs conflict with freedom. My dad didn't die so you faggots could have fucking safe spaces goddammit! We need to be a stronger and less tolerant nation!
>>79427138
>foreigners trying to tell us everything is great in America and we should be thankful for our corrupt oligarchy
What if I don't like being taxed to kill millions of middle easterners for NationChess of the international capitalist global elite?
>iraq
>libya
>syria
WHY THE FUCK DID WE DESTROY ALL 3 OF THOSE COUNTRIES?!?
>pic related is using this well to manipulate the /pol/ posters
>>79415620
not a leftist in the slightest, but please do convince your comrades to vote for Jill Stein
>>79426893
That's what I mean. It seems like the attitude is "work or starve". Cunts.
>>79427589
>to leverage economy of scale
My English isn't that good, what are you trying to say?
but if I understood correctly, How can a business completely stop it's competition if it is big enough?
I honestly don't know what you mean so can you explain?
LOL at this whole thread. Godspeed bernouts. Long live the failed revolution.
>>79427228
>facebook buys the contracts to all the advertisers so no other social media platform can come close to competing
Free market says gov isn't allowed to regulate those contracts because they are private deals between people (corporations are people according to neocons)
Hands off combined with rich selfish elite exploiting their fellow man inevitably leads to oligopoly/monopoly and the same end goal as communism.
RULING ELITE
ENSLAVED MASSES
>3. The Donald: I just don't like him and don't trust him
Well I guess him, considering your list has him with the least actual cons.
>>79427229
Natural treatments and reducing meat consumption are great ways to combat the corrupt medical industry and stop pollution.
I wouldn't ever ban mean, but a tax should be put on it so the consumers match the cost of the damage they cause to the environment. Otherwise government subsidies pick up that cost AKA SOCIALISM OMG
>>79428599
An American oil company was notorious because it sold gas for a loss until it drove it's competition out of business then jacked the price up uncontested
>>79427277
They aren't perfect but they are better than your pathetic comments, thats for sure.
>>79428681
get used to it, it's always worked well faggot.
You teenage scumbags are the only ones bitching about it.
I fucking hate your kind.
you should all be shipped to saudi arabia for a while
>>79417276
>I just rektd you in two messages.
You, Sir, deserve a medal for internet bravery.
>>79428340
>>everthing is great in America
Of course not, but it wouldn't have been better if you have socialistic policies.
It's ironic that your problem with capitalism is your assumption of the inevitable centralization of political power, when the socialism you are advocating have those centralized political power as an end goal.
Anyway, if you don't want your tax money being used to kill and destroy, the only sensible solution to take is to advocate for a smaller government, which socialist policies doesn't advocate.
>>79427307
>germany being raped and destroyed should have been able to care for their prisoners the same way untouched prosperous america did to their prisoners!
You are way too defensive of the jews buddy. I actually do value the japanese and respect how honorably they understood us putting them in concentration camps (UNLIKE THE JEWS WHO KEEP BRINGING IT UP EVERY 3 MONTHS AND BANNING BOOKS AND MOVIES RELATED TO ANYTHING NOT ZIONIST)
Im not even a nazi I just see groups exploiting victim cards when they do. Jews and blacks are kings of this MUH ANCENSTORS IM A VICTIM bullshit. Even native americans, who are almost wiped out culturally, just took their casinos and said "fine we will deal with it"
>>79424899
The truth is its easier to be right wing. The opinions and stances they take are very "this is good for me, and that's good enough". That's why low-iq neets are all about it on here. Not to mention 4 chain's racist nature which is just more naturally in tune with right wing views.
>>79427366
Ok well I just disagree
A depressed, divorced angry drunk should not have the firepower to go let out his rage by killing as many people as he can
I think sober law abiding patriots that are the equivalent of private individual special forces should be required to swear allegiance to no government, no corporation and only the bill of rights and thus be given near full second amendment privileges like grenade launchers and automatic weapons.
>>79427403
Because /pol/ is dumber than tumblr
They just think that being redpilled on a few things makes them smarter.
KNOWING THE CHEAT CODES TO A VIDEO GAME DOESNT MAKE YOU BETTER THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE GREAT AT THE GAME BUT DONT KNOW THE CHEATS
>>79429339
>it is easier to have politically incorrect opinion such as gassing the jews and genociding niggers
>instead of left wing views which entirely involves virtue signaling
>>79427630
>if i call them shills i win
Gonna go ahead and stop responding to you now
>>79429648
> it's hard to hold nationalist and self serving views while ignoring diversity and needs of others.
Sure.
>>79428681
and if Facebook can't properly provide it's serivice like it can now, then we won't use it
It's a monopoly that we can dismantle anytime by just voting with our wallets (or rather just visiting another site)
but right now its doing a good job so whats the problem and who are the "ENSLAVED MASSES" that they are exploiting? just looks like business to me
>>79428894
I suppose you are right in saying there should be fair trade regulations to stop Monopolies from forming and situations like these happening but not those than hinder competition between businesses
>>79429170
You're still stick in the right vs left mentality
It is corruption (wether private or public they own both) that is the problem.
>>79429924
I thought this is a 'who you'll be voting threads'.
I was making a case why you shouldn't vote for someone with mostly socialistic policies.
>>79429854
Ever tried getting one of the millions of jobs/girls that won't accept someone who doesn't have a social media account?
You don't get that humans work together and if you get enough people addicted to social media (like a drug) then you can force others to go with the herd or be excluded.
Oh look, hilary is afraid bern outs will vote for trump and deployed the best voter base crippling idea ever, a third candidate who can't win no matter what , she will be nothing but blind pandering ... if you are a bern out and is reading this ... do not cooperate with this nonsense, vote trump.
>>79417685
>it's bad when they do it but totally ok when we do it
>>79418217
Source?
>>79429832
>this goy honestly believe that leftwing views ultimately serves others
If only you can see arguments past the MSM strawmans.
>>79418418
Bernie isn't anywhere near comparable to Ceausescu. It's a ridiculous comparison.
>>79419085
>muh communism
>>79419850
Stroessner pls go
>>79430124
Right and I could make arguments against capitalists And we could do this all day and get nowhere.
The idealogies depend on who is applying the policies and wether they are trying to help themselves or the people.
Neither a corrupt private oligopoly nor an evil socialist dictator will be good for our country. We just need canidates that care about the people. Notice how I am not just bashing Trump? It's because i respect that you guys trust and like him. I agree he is at least, on the surface, not a corrupt establishment politician or an evil establishment wolf of wall street capitalist (his businesses at least provide goods and services to people competitively). I just dont personally like or trust Trump and Bernie is looking 99% like he is going to abandon us.
>>79430238
Fair enough, and if you don't like Trump, support Jill Stein. Johnson is the worst, Clinton is too corrupt and Bernie is looking just disappointingly weak as of right now.
>>79422019
You would probably get shunned or trusted less, just like what happens in kibbutzim.
>>79422887
ebin
Jill Stein is the only vote if you're left
>>79430202
what's wrong with this?
people like a good service and go along with it
if you don't want to get one then don't apply for those jobs or try for those girls who won't accept anyone who doesn't have one
I really don't get how social trends are ENSLAVING THE MASSES
>>79426210
>what is the Irish potato famine
>what are the countless famines in India
>what are the famines in Latin America
>what is Africa
>>79428340
>WHY THE FUCK DID WE DESTROY ALL 3 OF THOSE COUNTRIES?!?
Israeli moles in our government newfag
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3205
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VXCgQSY8ErE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TMW7x0fLaLA
>>79426859
No that was the rise of progressivism at the turn of the last century something men like Bastiat and Hayek warned against you I'll read cunt.
>>79426615
>I admit socialism requires unity
No socialism is quite literally impossible.
Socialist have had nearly 100 years t address this argument and have failed said arguments have since been vindicated by history and less than a handful actually had the intellectual honesty to admit to such.
https://reason.com/archives/2005/01/21/the-man-who-told-the-truth
https://mises.org/library/end-socialism-and-calculation-debate-revisited
>>79415620
staunch centrist here: your nutter bitch is gonna fuck america and so is doland drumpf, fuck all of you since all of you are either crazy Antifaniggers or literal nazi shitheels.
being a moderate is dead as a god damn doornail and its your lots fault, full all of you.
>>79417685
>>79415620
Daily reminder that /pol/ is a conservative board.
I come here to escape the horrors of the progressive shit hole that is my country. I see that OP is from America so let me straighten this out for you:
My father escaped socialism. It doesn't fucking work. I live in a pseudo-soclaist country and half of the populous is made up of people who only serve to bitch and complain about irrelevant """"""""freedoms""""""" while living off government neetbux. I would fucking kill to live in your country but I have a duty to fix my own. Stop being a leftist piece of shit and be thankful that you live in a country that still values hard work.
The funniest thing about you american leftists is that most of you wouldn't even survive a week in an actual left leaning country. Get a job and be grateful for what you have you parasites
>>79426804
What happened to the Japanese-Americans was pretty bad, but it's nothing compared to the mass killings/imprisonment of Jews.
By the way, the German Revolution wasn't as malevolent as the Bolshevik Revolution. The damage done by the rebels was minimal, and they were staunchly anti-authoritarian.
>>79431331
>all in countries with heavy socialist influence/policies
>>79429170
>what is decentralized socialism
>>79430428
They are both populists and they're both socialists
They seem quite similar to me
>>79429648
>le virtue signaling meme
ebin buzzword
>>79415620
>federal regulation of firearms
>libertarian values
Pick one and only one faggot.
>>79431538
Bernie is the centrist friend o. No one would have blinked an eye at the things he is saying if it was the 50s. It's just New Deal politics.
>>79424899
>post points out that liberals using namecalling is an ineffective way to start debate here
>all responses use namecalling in response
You really showed him, guys.
>>79431736
Are you blind? The British Empire and Cold War regimes in the Third World were nowhere near socialist.
it's fun to rage at Hillary but she'll be a much, much better President than Sanders or Trump, maybe even better than Obama.
I fucking hated Clinton in the 1992 primaries -- Jerry Brown all the way -- but I sure was glad he was elected, and would have voted for a third term given the chance.
fucj'
>>79430964
You're assuming that it is inherently a "good service," and you're ignoring that there may not be many other alternatives. Variety of choice would eventually fall as a few central powers expanded.
>>79418093
>I mean alcohol should be banned for anyone with a gun shouldn't it? I don't think even guns nuts think a depressed angry divorced drunk should have access to military firepower should he?
Why? If you ever like to drink you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun? How do you even enforce this?
>depressed angry divorced drunk
They're more likely to shoot themselves then anything, banning guns will result in more gun crime, take a look at brazil.
>>79415620
>Please no trolling
>>79432564
Clinton was shit. He passed fucking NAFTA for chrissakes. Fuck off shill
>>79432564
>it's fun to rage at Hillary but she'll be a much, much better President than Sanders or Trump, maybe even better than Obama.
She done a good job as secretary of state didn't she?
>Helps arm ISIS
>removed Ghaddafi for trying to start his own currency
>Left Lybia in chaos knowing full well that ISIS would move in and take over
>Starts a proxy war in Syria
All in four years, even when Obama was hesitant she would go behind his back and try to force his hand.
I can only imagine the level of shenanigans if she was given full clearance to do as she pleases. If Shillary wins no one is safe
>>79432338
I do admit that I was wrong in saying that but those famines (Indian, Irish Potato, Latin American) were Socialist but they were also not in direct result of Capitalism
where as famines in Communist/Socialist states are most often because of their Socialist policies
>>79432602
Could a person not create an alternative in competition if this current service is not adequate for most? And he would profit if people don't like that other service and this new service he made is better
There will be alternatives when this service stops being good
All in all Capitalism doesn't deprive anyone of anything it only provides and breeds good things.
So whats the problem, Capitalism is really fun and good!
>>79429854
The main problem with things such as social media is that it entirely relies on its userbase.
Once a website gets large enough, it'll hold its monopoly position, and the consumer will tend to stay there, despite the existence of a better product, since everyone else is using it.
This is why Facebook and its ilk has a disproportional power in the market and can be used to enslave via omission and censorship.
>>79430964
The country is not infinite
The more people you get addicted to the cancer, the more you can force to submi to it or be excluded until eventually they have to live in detroit, chicago or something which is like giving them a death sentence
>>79431730
Ratio of german civilians kills to prisoner jews killed
Vs
Ratio of american civilians killed to prisoner japs killed
Winners have luxuries losers cannot afford. Jews died to starvation and disease due to lack of food and lack of medical supplies.
You jews try to turn every single thread into MUH HOLOCAUST just shutup
>>79432564
>maybe even better than obama
OBAMA HAS BEEN AS BAD AS BUSH YOU ESTABLISHMENT DICKBAG
>>79434171
>>79434553
Hivemind
