>>79412961
>There are only Zebras in Africa.
Whites somehow managed to tame some of them.
>>79412961
Nice try Jared Diamond
>mfw I don't meet the criteria for being a good pet
>>79412961
>cows don't freak out and try to smash through everything when spooked
>>79413264
Would Zebra's be better than horses as a working animal?
>>79413152
>in Africa.
>Whites somehow managed to tame some of them
Tame is not domesticated
>>79414251
it takes generations to domesticate a species. africans are incapable of passing knowledge from generation to generation so they will never domesticate anything, unless enslaving each other counts as domestication.
>>79414199
In Africa they would obviously, dipshito, What do you think this thread is about? It is about Africans being lazy &/or stupid.
>>79412961
TIL women are not domesticated
Interesting. Why don't mixed race kids look more like zebras anyway? Imagine how cool that'd be
>>79414410
Being domesticated and being better are two different things you retard.
>>79414512
Codominant Expression versus Incomplete Dominance Expressoin.
Zebras actually have never been totally domesticated like horses, just occasionally tamed.
Why does /pol/ deny this?
>implying desirable traits aren't carefully selected for generation after generation to produce a domesticated animal
>literally not understanding the topic but still pretending to have a valid opinion
Why do these people exist /pol/?
>>79414781
>implying we deny THIS
That's one way to move the goalposts.
![307527_1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P6QuL1a.jpg "307527_1[1].jpg")
Anyone who has ever been to the circus knows that non-blacks can train elephants, chimps, tigers, lions, monkeys, bears, rhinos, zebras, and many other animals.
Evidently, animals are racist and hate black Africans.
>>79414781
yeah i bet early tame horses were super calm too
>>79414199
They aren't as large as horses so no. But they are better than nothing.
Niggers in Africa never thought up selective breeding, yet they think they have similar IQs to the white man. Kek.
>>79414199
I wouldn't believe so. The horse happens to be both larger and faster than the zebra.
However, that doesn't detract from the point that zebras could serve as a substitute.
![circus%20elephant[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eWpBfGA.jpg "circus%20elephant[1].jpg")
>animals in Africa cannot be trained or domesticated.
>please ignore this whitey woman riding and elephant
pick two, you must pick two, goyim
>>79414781
Domestication takes hundreds of generations, but the fact that you can tame them to do useful work shows that it's possible. See the fox domestication project. Wild foxes can sometimes be barely tamed, but after selection of dozens of generations they have changed physically and love human companionship.
>>79414920
>Evidently, animals are racist and hate black Africans.
>>79413287
You don't meet the criteria for being a normal human being. Kill yourself fucking weebshit.
![88568827[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vmxYrwR.jpg "88568827[1].jpg")
>animals in Africa cannot be used for farming or transport
>>79412961
With enough time every single species can be domesticated.
Everyone knows that blacks are of lesser intelligence. The more sensitive and compassionate among us will always try to blame the shortcomings of various societies by blaming the more successful ones for exploiting them. Way of the world.
There are a large portion of people that think the harvest of honey is an immoral act. If there's so many who will shed tears over bees, you can be sure they'll never stop crying over the niggers.
>>79412961
but zebras pump out a massive amount of cum when they do
far more than horses
![Elephants-at-Circus[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QPOvzp3.jpg "Elephants-at-Circus[1].jpg")
>look at all these racist elephants. bet they're about to burn a cross and lynch some poor innocent unarmed black teen who din't do nuffin.
>>79413264
They can be used, but they are dangerous and untrustworthy.
As someone who grew up with horses and new someone with a pet zebra (rescued from a circus, being rehabilitated on the farm) those things are nothing like horses except in how they look.
It's like comparing a hyena to a golden retriever. There is no comparison.
You domesticate animals be selective breeding based primarily on temperament over a dozen or so generations. They don't just start being docile in the wild. Has anyone even TRIED to domesticate zebra? I don't say why they would when there are plenty of other animals to fit any environment/purpose who have had a thousand or more years of domestication into them.
So leftists believe horses, dogs, and cats naturally evolved to be affectionate towards humans.
>>79412961
Dogs are fucking domesticated wolves. And you're trying to tell me you couldn't domesticate a fucking zebra?
>>79415374
>>79415209
>>79415106
Looks up the difference between domestication and taming.
![image-20090811-3vxugzy1yi8bgghroi1a_t_w618_h300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RuvojRv.jpg "image-20090811-3vxugzy1yi8bgghroi1a_t_w618_h300[1].jpg")
>Bears
>completely untrainable by black Africans.
Bears are super racist, they only respond to nonblacks.
>>79413264
How cool it would be to have that kind of farm animals instead of pic related, exotic.
>>79414920
If blacks cannot even tame themselves, do you expect them to make a lion act in a docile way?
>>79415012
>>79415071
horses are larger and stronger because they were selectively bred through the centuries. this is why cavalry wasnt a thing in the ancient world, horses just werent big and strong enough, thats why they had them pulling chariots instead
>>79415439
I think cats sorta did
>>79415415
Golden retrievers were, of course, bred to behave as they do towards humans. All this thread demonstrates is that black Africans never thought to breed a beast of burden.
>>79415334
Good to know.>>79415334
>>79415334
what
>>79415509
The only reason Elephants aren't domesticated (YET) is because they have extremely long lifespans and pregnancies. Don't think it isn't underway right now.
It's hilarious to me you can think that some animals can be domesticated or not (and this is permanent) but you have trouble believing some types of humans can build civilizations and others can't.
It's cognitive dissonance at its finest.
>>79415439
Mati, I don't think you understood.. this is /pol/ not /an/
myśl bardziej
![A-tiger-leapes-through-a--010(1)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hxzS2J1.jpg "A-tiger-leapes-through-a--010(1)[1].jpg")
>another racist animal, the tiger.
>big cats are legendary for their systemic racism against black people
>>79415228
This. People don't seem to realize nowadays how fucking dangerous aurochs were. Those beasts would fucking tear you into pieces before you could do anything. Now they're fucking cows.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5897169/dna-reveals-that-cows-were-almost-impossible-to-domesticate
>>79412961
Foxes can be domesticated through selective breeding withing a couple of generations. Why would Zebras be any different? Just breed from the most friendly and docile ones and eat the angry motherfuckers.
![circus-animal1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PGUg0JO.jpg "circus-animal1[1].jpg")
>rhino
>racist as fuck
>dances on tippy toes for whites
>won't even acknowledge the presence of a black African
>>79415159
Maybe it's true, Black nations never had formidable cavalries like Mongols, Middle-Eastern or European nations. Animals only follow people or whatever leader for that matter willingly if it's mutually beneficial.
![article-2589543-1C9536FA00000578-899_634x785[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6DwJyzL.jpg "article-2589543-1C9536FA00000578-899_634x785[1].jpg")
>>79415646
>>79415415
Why are they dangerous and untrustworthy?
They seem docile... They wouldn't attack their own "pack" would they?
>b-but muh nigs couldn't have empires n' shit because of zebras
horses are unpredictable and known to attack people. So are camels
![_53681797_jex_1087672_de27-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4BMb9KV.jpg "_53681797_jex_1087672_de27-1[1].jpg")
>whitey juju animal sorcery
>animals are racist and hate black people
>>79414419
underrated post
>>79415612
>>79415633
You heard me. Go look up some breeding videos. It's quite amazing.
>>79415637
I've not said any of those things, but you replied with elephants in a circus (who are tamed, not domesticated) to a thread about domestication, so I merely advised you inform yourself that there is a difference between the two. You correctly identified why Elephants haven't been domesticated yet by their long lifespan.
>>79412961
Behaviour is genetic.
Eugenics will domesticate any animal.
The lenght vary due to different factors, generational length being the most obvious.
>>79412961
>>79413264
Zebras can be tamed, not domesticated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmjnioNulo&ab_channel=CGPGrey
>>79415947
>I literally can't read post ID's.
I haven't posted a single pic this whole thread.
>>79415439
m8 Africans are still waiting to invent the wheel. Just look at how Zimbabwe ended up after they "freed" themselves, look at the technology they had available to them and look at it now. It's like when you see some crazy old bat leave her properties and fortune to a pet, it has absolutely no concept of what to do with it because it's far beyond what it's capable of thinking about. That's your common African.
>>79415910
seals are smarter than niggers
>>79412961
>Zebras can't be domesticated because they aren't domesticated
this is the most circular logic I've ever seen. 0/10 OP
>>79415415
That's what domestication does to you, you fucking retard.
Wild horses acted exactly the same way that zebras do today.
>>79415930
>Go look up some breeding videos. It's quite amazing.
no one cares about your cuck fetish
>>79415885
>horses
>unpredictable
pick one and only one.
Anyone raised around horses can attest that they're magnificent creatures. Unlike a black person, horses will never suckerpunch you or steal your wallet or muh dik your women.
>>79412961
This is a good argument for removing niggers from western civilization.
>>79415106
That's an Indian elephant...
>>79415682
Maybe in ancient times when people knew nothing, they just took what animals they could keep. If some beast tried to kill everyone it would soon be killed, but people had no reason to attack the ones who where chill. Maybe old selective breeding was more of a result of luck than of it being goal.
>>79416114
>Anyone raised around horses can attest that they're magnificent creatures.
That's... what? Why are you saying buillshit like thi--
>Unlike a black person, horses will never suckerpunch you or steal your wallet or muh dik your women.
Well fucking played.
>>79412961
>Unpredictable
>Known to attack people
>Should not panic under pressure
Then we never domesticated horses either?
>>79415682
Cows actually kill people in the US.
>>79416094
Nothing cuckish about appreciating a gallon of cum.
>>79416114
how many horses have you fucked you sick fuck
![GD92NB8O7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XCWCVxf.jpg "GD92NB8O7[1].jpg")
>amerindians train the llama
>arabs train the camel
>indians train the tiger and elephant
>chinese train oxen
hurr durr black africa has no animals suitable for agriculture or transport
>>79412961
>They are unpredictable and are known to attack people
Those are the exact traits that domestication eliminates. We've domesticated predatory animals, for crying out loud.
>>79414251
Why is this not being done, I read about some russians selectively breeding foxes, to create a domesticated version of it, I'm interested in seeing if possible in other animals.
>>79416094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJZHYqe7ZA
here, watch this
>>79415999
Welp, looks like we both made the same mistake then.
![article-1260756-041C91F0000005DC-848_468x286[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6teveU2.jpg "article-1260756-041C91F0000005DC-848_468x286[1].jpg")
>haaay guise, no animals in black Africa for transportation
>please ignore the racist white man riding a lion
No, niggers cannot be domesticated.
They are unpredictable and are known to attack people. To be domesticated, animals must meet a certain criteria. For example, they must have a good disposition and should not panic under pressure.
>>79416114
>Anyone raised around horses can attest that they're magnificent creatures
kek no. they are magnificent unless they get spooked by a plastic bag, a bird or a stronger gust of wind, then they turn to mindless raging beasts trampling anything in their way. Also they can be mean little shits to each other, attacking viciously each other for fun or place in the group
not all obviously, some are more some are less prone to that behavior, but some are more
t. been around horses for years
>>79416394
>We both made the same mistake!
I get Arabic is your first language and not English but, seriously, pick up the reading comprehension a bit.
![5654db912100004a005ab96b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/13uoPQ3.jpg "5654db912100004a005ab96b[1].jpg")
>b-but t-trainable doesn't mean d-domesticated
fuck off, apologists.
Animals just hate niggers
>>79415991
If you can tame something, you can domesticate it.
Domestication is just selective breeding for certain neotenous behavioural traits over many generations.
>>79416485
Wait...
Holy shit...
What if the Jews secretly hate blacks and they're intentionally trying to force it so white people HAVE to eliminate them?
>>79415910
Teaching water animals tricks is the best thing ever, it's incredible how much species so different from humans can learn.
I mean anyone can expect a monkey to pay for food, but teaching dolphins to jump through rings is incredible.
>>79416114
>domesticated horses act like wild horses
>>79413453
Kek
>>79415854
Fucking horses were just too racist and kept the black man down.
>>79416643
>Jews secretly hate blacks
>secretly
Clearly haven't been paying attention to Israel....
>>79412961
So, black people.
>>79416670
>implying a black man can even tame a horse, let alone any animal
They've had decades to BUY them...
>>79416114
Have they ever suckerpunched you or stolen your wallet or muh dik'd your women?
>>79416643
Looks like I'm a #JewMissile now.
>>79416290
Why would anyone stick their dick in horse butt
>>79416551
Likewise for you and mexican.
>>79416487
>unless they get spooked
that's why you use blinders on your horse when appropriate
>they can be mean little shits to each other
so can white people, that's why you keep your aggressive horses corralled or stalled separately
Horses have a special place in the hearts of the Polish, it's foolish to deny it.
>>79414251
Nogs never bothered to take the time to domesticate them. To say they can't be when the initial evidence says otherwise is preposterous. Wild horses that the Mongols used were far more aggressive than Zebras ever could imagine, and they did it.
>>79412961
>not being domesticated means your breed can't be domesticated in the future
>>79415415
>Horses which were bred over hundreds of generations to be docile are WAY more docile then this one zebra that came from a circus and was probably a wild animal not domesticated whatsoever.
>this proves that zebras cannot be domesticated, despite all of direct evidence to the contrary!
>>79416637
and it takes a ridiculously long time on top of being extremely difficult
it took thousands of years for man to domesticate the auroch
>>79416656
>anyone can expect a monkey to pay for food
I thought that's what food stamps were for?
>>79416309
That video is bullshit.
![exotic-animals-circus[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PKPVhH7.jpg "exotic-animals-circus[1].jpg")
>Africa didn't have any good animals
>whitey only got ahead cuz muh domesticated animals and sheeit
mother nature beez raycess, know-ahm-sayin'
>No, WOLVES cannot be DOMESTICATED, they are unpredictable and are known to attack people
>NO, WILD CATS cannot be domesticated they are unpredictable and are known to attack people
>No, SNAKES cannot be domesticated, they are unpredictable and are known to attack people
does this person have any idea what they are talkinga bout?
>>79415637
it's not underway, you can't domesticate elephants, they have to few children and to long of lifespans, plus the cost to much to raise to adulthood. People have tamed elephants for 2000 years and it has't happened so it probably never will.
![images[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/goX6n4I.jpg "images[1].jpg")
yo crackas! gibs me dats animal training an' sheeit
you owes us, muhfuggah!
the black man invented animal training, we wuz kangz. we had all the domesticated animals till whitey came and stole our civilization and whatnot. racist crackas!
>>79416933
Fuck horses, I find it impressive that at some point in history, some prehistoric indus valley guy looked at a giant, 3,000kg lump of hulking muscle and tusk that spends it's time ripping trees out of the ground with it's nose, and thought to himself;
'You know what, I reckon I can ride that'
>>79417143
If only Africa learned to domesticate dogs or horses, or even cows. They would be kangz an shiet. Supposedly they had a head start since everyone else was migrating.
>>79417394
Why did everyone except africans leave africa?
>>79417394
Was Carthage first or is that just a history meme? I remember hearing in school they had war elephants for real.
>>79412961
>horses were always the way they are now and all europeans did was put a harness on them
>>79412961
>1 post by this ID
ZIDF detected
![1_ubXjS2TbT93VJb3XK7OciA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4vQIvoO.jpg "1_ubXjS2TbT93VJb3XK7OciA[1].jpg")
>>79417394
>Battle of the Dumbos: Elephant Warfare From Ancient Greece to the Vietnam War
>Elephants have fought in wars for 2,300 years
https://warisboring.com/battle-of-the-dumbos-elephant-warfare-from-ancient-greece-to-the-vietnam-war-ca62af225917
pic related: South Vietnamese troops with elephants on patrol.
>>79417602
yeah that had war elephants during the second part of the Punic Wars against Rome.
>>79417396
Remember that sub-Saharan Africans had a 250,000 year head start on all the races that left Africa.
They should be a quarter of a million years ahead of us. They should be trans-human-galactic travelers.
Instead, they fuck monkeys.
>>79412961
Most goalpost-movingy thing I have ever read.
In recent years among the species form areas with "no domestically species" that have been domesticated are Emus, Ostriches, Alligators, Bison...
Why didn't the africans domesticate dogs and use them like sled dogs to carry things?
>>79417602
Carthage used an extinct species of elephant called the African forest elephant, they were native to North Africa and smaller than both Indian and African bush elephants you get today.
Hannibal Barca rode an imported Syrian elephant, another extinct sub-species of Asian elephant that was larger than any elephants are today.
They weren't the first though, elephant domestication occurred in central Asia long before the Punic Wars.
>>79417062
Cant != can with enough time
Stop moving the goalposts
>>79416873
>>79415439
>dogs are domesticated wolves
This is false
>>79417759
Badass. European people still used horses in WW2, but these people rode elephants in Vietnam War(?)
>>79415991
He throws bison out as an example of an animal that can't be domesticated but is apparently unaware of the fact domestic cattle are descended from the auroch which was a massive and aggressive animal that would dwarf modern cattle.
>>79415182
Wew lad, that's not really nice.
>>79416615
that poor bear why didnt they just glue a top hat on it instead of the tutu
>>79415439
You probably could, but the domestication process can take some time.
They did it in Russia with silver foxes, by selectively breeding less aggressive foxes with other less aggressive foxes.
For it to work with zebra's you'd have to do the same thing. Select less violent and aggressive zebra's and breed them together. Continue breeding them until you finally have a domesticated version.
Domesticated versions look different then their wild counterparts, which is why the silver fox is silver.
>>79418052
This may be just my own speculation but I suspect sled dogs were never that big deal in most of Europe, yet they were important animals in herding, guard duties and fetching prey. Even in my country sleds in winter were pulled by horses because they had far superior strength.
Sled dogs are Alaskan, North Pole, Antarctica thing.
>>79418052
>Why didn't Africans do X?
The answer to all these questions is; they didn't need to.
Neccessity is the mother of invention, but humans living in Africa are living in the environment our species is best adapted to and can survive just fine using techniques first developed hundreds of thousands of years ago.
By comparison, a homo sapien who suddenly finds himself facing with a Eurasian winter, needs to innovate pretty fucking fast or he's dead.
Jared Diamond has it backwards, Eurasian peoples didn't develop culturally and technology faster because they had it easier than Africans, they developed faster because they had it harder.
If we ever set up a permenant Mars colony, you better believe Mars will end up outstripping Earth scientifically. Adversity brings innovation.
>>79418311
>extensive genetic studies undertaken during the 2010s indicate that dogs diverged from an extinct wolf-like canid in Eurasia 40,000 years ago.[7]
>>79417223
>In related news, there are no black swans.
>>79412961
>implying
Horses panic over a frog jumping. They're also gigantic assholes.
>>79418486
it's a girl bear, silly brit-bro
>>79417689
>Zebra Internet Defense Force?
"No peter, wolves can not be domesticated, they bite and will go to any means to feed their own.?
Fuck off you shitting cycler
>>79418367
Would you like me to get in the car and drive over to the bison ranch near her and take some pictures?
>>79417394
It's always funny to think about prehistoric shenanigans. One of my favourite ones is cows, where a guy essentially went "I like tits as a baby, cows have even bigger tits, I bet I will like what comes out of those tits."
>>79418812
>martian societal darwinism begins to offend the native earth retards with dreams of living off-world and a room temperature IQ
>First Intraplanetary marines sent on a mission to 'civilize' the barbaric martians
>martian militia is prepared and slaughters every single one of them
>liquidation_intensifies_internally.jpg
>terrified of a planet full of highly intelligent ubermensch cultivated by the eugenic nature of their environment, (((Earth))) determines to nuke the surface and forget the interplanetary colonial project entirely
>However, no rocket capable of approaching the civilized surface of Mars is capable of entering the atmosphere without being intercepted after the martians develop anti-incursion technology
>The Martians come to the conclusion that only their utter annihilation will satisfy the (((Earth Government))), and begin developing stealth missile technology
>Cold War of the Worlds has begun
Lets do it.
>>79418854
Horses arent domesticated
>>79419107
I'm not saying bison can't be domesticated. I'm pointing out that the video's statement that an animal as large and aggressive as the bison can't be domesticated by early man is entirely wrong since the auroch was similar in size and disposition and it was domesticated.
>horses were tame when humans found them
this meme is so retarded. humans can selectively breed, africans can't. simple as that. the most impressive things africans do it hunt with monkeys
>>79416274
True, it's just really gay.
>>79419544
>hunt with monkeys
Source?
>>79419367
A decently developed, self-sustaining Mars would kick our arse, most of their cities would likely be underground (to avoid solar radiation due to no magnetosphere) and self-contained (due to thin atmosphere).
We could fire nukes/chuck rocks at them, but even if some got through, you'd have to individually strike each and every population center and hit it with a bullseye to kill it. Non-direct impacts would have little effect.
By comparison, they could just go out into the asteroid belt, accelerate some particularly large objects as fast as they can and then stick them on a collision course with Earth and we'd be fucked. They wouldn't need to aim for anything specific since just a general fucking of our biosphere by a single 7km+ object getting through and impacting anywhere on Earth would kill billions.
>>79419628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_hkKUCWltc
Trained monkeys latch onto boars to weigh them down. Meals are likely split.
The most impressive human-animal paired hunting I've seen would have to be Orcas and humans. Dolphins in general tend to assist people, but there was an extreme case in Australia during the whaling years where Orcas would lead other species of whales towards the whalers then signal them with a frail dolphin when they were nearby. The kills would be shared and this went on for some decades. Very interesting creatures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STdSdmOsClo
>>79416331
>I read about some russians selectively breeding foxes, to create a domesticated version of it
They actually also made the foxes that hated humans (and did not afraid of us like wild ones) for the scientific interest. Science is scary.
>>79412961
Wild horses are undomesticated, and so are wolves. However, you can breed both into a domesticated species quite easily.
>>79412961
Is everyone in this thread really arguing about domestication vs taming?
I scrolled through half this thread and haven't seen someone understand what the OP is implying. This isn't about fucking zebras. He's pointing out that it's okay to point out that zebras are dangerous to people and incapable of being domesticated because of their behavior.
What other group of animals do you guys know that are violent towards people, often have a bad disposition, and panic under pressure??
>>79420768
Nigger hate is boring.
>>79412961
Is domestication a meme?
All it takes is one generation to be born in the wild to lose their domestication and requires that generation to breed in captivity to become re-domesticated.
>>79420262
As we become a more godless society, the only thing that could further the human race is the ideological culture of the space race.
As soon as a colony is established on Mars, degeneracy begins.
Therefore pit bulls were never domesticated by humans, and because they are a breed of dog, dogs were also never domesticated by humans. Got it.
>>79415754
Actually they kill lots of africans. More than lions, surprisingly enough.
>>79420768
>What other group of animals do you guys know that are violent towards people, often have a bad disposition, and panic under pressure??
Everything that isn't a Quokka?
>>79412961
That's probably what some knuckledragging faggot said a about horses too.
>>79418893
>it's a girl bear
uhhh did the bear TELL YOU its gender, you fucking shitlord?
>>79417394
You got that from a 9fag meme you unoriginal faggot
>>79421781
I don't agree that horses are domesticated. Easily tamed, but not domesticated. It requires some mental gymnastics to assume they are.
Ponys are domesticated.
>>79420262
Yall should have just listened to me.
>http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/elon-musk-wants-nuke-mars-scientists-say-its-not-crazy-it-sounds-1519430
>>79420262
Mars has a thin atmosphere, but it's there.
Assuming that technology exists to fabricate meteor impacts, Mars would be just as fucked as Earth if struck by even a modestly sized rock.
Underground bunkers would hold off mass death for awhile, but the surface of Mars would become that much more savage for human life; and if any tectonic activity still exists on Mars, those underground populations would be thoroughly fucked by activity set off from a large impact.
>>79415534
>cavalry wasnt a thing in the ancient world
>>79427463
it literally wasn't.
plant and animal husbandry have change many things since then.
>>79415182
Kek, what the fuck is happening to canadians here ?
