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Elon Musk btfo!

>Tesla described the accident as an anomaly: a tractor trailer drove across a highway, perpendicular to the Model S. “Neither Autopilot nor the driver noticed the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky, so the brake was not applied,” the company said.

www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2016/06/30/the-first-self-driving-car-death-launches-tesla-investigation/#65f997b662d0
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>>79406925
so, you're saying that, if the driver had seen the trailer, and applied the brakes, the person might've survived?

or that the trailor was a dumbfuck who literally crossed a HIGHWAY wasn't at fault?
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1 autopilot fatality isn't that bad when you compare it to the millions of driver related fatalities
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So the problem was still a human driver? No shit.

Self driving cars need not be perfect to be adopted. They need only be as good or better than the average driver.

As a legally blind person, I am extremely pleased that fully self-driving cars will be available to me in my lifetime. Fuck public transit.
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So it went like this?
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Their fault for trusting relatively new technology.

Look at how many plane crashes there were during the infancy of air-travel.
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>>79407582
>a leaf, blind and rides buses
literally diaf
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>>79407387
im sure the truck driver won't be faulted at all due to the autopilot. He probably would have been in jail by now
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>>79407777

Would it make you feel better if my goal is to design and manufacture firearms en-masse?
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>>79406925
only the moron in the car that was watching Harry Potter died so it doesn't really count.
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>~200 million miles driven in autopiloted vehicles
>1 fatality

Probably a better safety record than manned vehicles. If the tractor trailer was autopiloted, this could've been avoided.

In the future there will probably be a highly efficient roadway system for AI-driven vehicles, without stoplights, etc., and alternate roadways for those vehicles that can still be manually driven.

The implications of losing some degree of freedom of mobility is troubling, but in general I like the idea of these vehicles.
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>>79407931
>made up statistics

your miles driven keeps getting bigger every thread
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>>79406925
I live in fucking nowhere Oregon. Nobody here owns a tesla, I've never even seen one on the road, yet we just had 4 tesla stations installed in a strip mall(what passes for one here) Public parking lot. Seems odd.
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>>79407849
Great. Blind people need self aiming smartguns to even the score.
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>>79408050
You've caught me, I'm a shill for the global elite, I purposely troll the internet to provide false statistics to trick you sheep into accepting this technology.

It's soul-crushing work, but the money's good.
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>>79408076

They are building the infrastructure because of future demand. Tesla is going to make a KILLING from other manufacturers licensing out use of their charging stations. Elon Musk is a smart guy.

>>79408224

I can still aim, man. 80% of legally blind people have some vision. I can out-shoot more than a few. :)
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>>79408370
wasn't there a western with a gunfighter who aimed based on sound alone?
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>>79408076
In order for people to buy electric cars, they need to believe the charging infrastructure is everywhere. Nobody will ever use those chargers in rural oregon, but they contribute to the network of chargers that make electric cars viable.
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>>79408472

I remember one where a blind guy had a scattergat with something like a 3 inch barrel with ridiculous spread.
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>>79407582
I want self driving cars so I can get drunk and fuck your wife and sister at the same time while driving 400 mph on the information super highway.
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>>79407631

Thanks. I was trying to figure this out.
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>>79408612
>rural oregon
what a loss. hold on while i reevaluate my life.
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I bet he was jacking off to Emma Watson before she went full feminazi.
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It's unfortunate that this one incident will probably set back driving AI either through stock market decay or public perception etc. Humans catching feels.
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>>79408050

>miles driven keeps going up?

Miles driven are going up, because the cars keep driving, which adds to the statistic.

Obviously this Stat will go up as time goes on.
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>>79406925
So let me get this straight. In the 200 MILLION (200 MILLION. Do you have any idea how much that is?) miles Tesla cars have rode on autopilot there is now ONE fatality. Yeah, woah, those Teslas sure are scary deathtraps, huh?
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>>79409884
I'm second guessing my career choice. The market seems saturated. Not good for job security.
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>>79409885
Fuck off and protect my teeth from cavities you god damn toothpaste nigger
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>>79409885
Well if they can't deal with the fact that people have to cross highways all the time, one such blunder in a very small number of teslas ought to be cause for fundamental concern.

One wonders if the designers even themselves drive.
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>>79409853
t. Skynet
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>>79410080

He's right though. Living in a rural area there are like 2-3 fatalities in a 100 mile radius due to tractors or some other BS earth moving trucks or what have you on a monthly basis.

People get fucked regardless.
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>>79409853
>humans feeling this hard about AI
get out of my AI development

t. work with AI people
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>>79410120
I have never, not even once in my life seen a car cross a highway. Are you saying this happens regularly over there? Just another one of your retarded Americanisms.
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archive your FUCKING LINKS
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>>79410389
Different areas have different road designs, but it happens literally all the time even if you're not in the middle of nowhere. Even if you discount sidestreets that aren't important enough for fucking lights or complicated and expensive road projects, there are even people with houses right on the highway.

Not that I'd want to live on a highway, but sometimes you didn't think your neighborhood road would become a highway some day.
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Scary.
This is why I'll never buy one.
The driver was so trusting of the car that it killed him.
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>>79407831
In America you don't go to jail when you're in a car accident and someone dies unless you're under the influence of drugs/alcohol or somehow found criminally negligent. I'm surprised people don't realize that you can literally commit murder with an automobile and say that you didn't see them.
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>>79406925
A fatality isnt really a big deal. As long as self driving cars have less accidents, they will be safer in general.

Call me when they start crashing more than regular human drivers.
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>>79409885

The 200 million miles does not only include tesla cars. It includes all driverless cars, and the Stat is actually more than 200 million. (And still going up, because there are cars on the road right now driving themselves.)
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Elon Musk is a grandiose fucktard who is about to cost each country billions, and delay rollout of driverless cars by years. Google's driverless car is being extensively and painstakingly tested before being put on the market. Elon has jumped the gun with a half-baked product that is not fully driverless but only partially. People will not fully understand the distinction and deaths like this will make legislators, the media and therefore the public nervous to adopt the technology, thereby delaying rollout and pushing back the rate at which we reduce deaths, other injury sustaining accidents and the GDP increase attached to the economic efficiencies of the technology.

Elon will cost us billions of dollars, thousands of lives and yet because you never get to see the alternative reality in which Elon's mother wisely aborts him before he unleashed his autistic overreach on the world, it will go unrecognised and unpunished.
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Tesla fags are about as annoying as virgin vape faggots
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Lol at white people by defending their own kind. Elon Musk is one of you. You're falling for the old divide and conquer trick.
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>>79407529
this senpaitachi
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>>79410389

This only happens to readnecks.
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Thanks for beta testing QUEER! AHAHAHHAHA
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>>79407849
wait how are you reading this?
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>>79406925
>A beta that you have to pay 70k USD that also kills you
BRAVO ELON ONLY 10 TRILLION MORE DOLLARS IN TAX PAYER GRANTS AND YOU MAY GET IT RIGHT
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>>79406925
Why does /pol/ hate Elon Musk?
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Elon Musk is a cuck.
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>>79411301

See: >>79408370
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>>79411231
Not really, but if the designers of the self-driving car don't know this then they're not very fit to make a self-driving car, now are they?
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>>79410840
>Thousands of lives
Nigger plz
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>>79408612
there are loads of chargers in every town in BC and some hotels have Tesla chargers, wish I could take advantage of them but currently too poor to own a car
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>One of the most complex tasks the most advanced known computing unit in the universe does shall be taken over by a simple mechanical autist and its programmers in the near future.

People seem to have no idea how much goes into driving a car. No computer is as nearly as good at analyzing images as we are yet. Might as well use trains if you have to build massive infrastructure to counter this huge flaw.
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>>79410840

>tldr: Tesla hould have had a LiDAR system on their self driving cars before mass distribution.
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>>79411481

because /pol/ hates everything that is popular
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first assassination test
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>>79410721
True. What's really important to note is that if the trailer driver was also on auto pilot, this wreck probably wouldn't have happened.
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>>79407831
no, the truck driver is the one who ran into the Tesla. The truck driver wasn't using autopilot. 100% the truck drivers fault.
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>>79411574
Even self-driving trains screw up sometimes, which is pretty loltacular.

I once found pieces of a conductor's manual by one of the local train tracks, and it was literally autism inducing. No wonder they call train retards "foamers."

>for the next 5 miles reduce the speed to 15MPH
>wait for the signal
>honk the horn
>don't forget to not crap your pants
>radio in to make sure you're not dead
>the tunnel will be dark, so check the lights after you're past the crossing
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>>79411574

Except self-driving cars can communicate with each other and the infrastructure, cannot be drunk/high/distracted/tired and will not break basic traffic laws.

Go for a drive along Airport Road in Brampton and tell me you wouldn't prefer these people just be passengers rather than drivers. Go on.
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>>79408076
do you have to pump your own electricity in oregon?
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>>79410721
The obvious solution is to ban all assault cars. We won't be satisfied until there's not even one death.

Not one more death!
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>>79411485
Money, hairplugs and weightlifting make a hell of a difference.
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>>79411580
LIDAR is expensive your life is not if you properly write EULA.
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>>79406925
Is anyone surprised?

Don't forget that Elon Musk is an African.

Pic related.
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>>79406925
All you idiots missing the point. The guy which was killed was none other than Joshua Brown, one of the founders of the US Navy Seals. How many other people are going to die which were close to Hillary and could wash their laundry in public?
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>>79411500
People who cross highways aren't fit to drive or even live.
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>>79412179
>The guy which was killed was none other than Joshua Brown, one of the founders of the US Navy Seals.
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>>79412327
There's literally no other way to get from one side to the other but to cross it.

You might as well complain when a deer or a kangaroo jumps right in front of you, or when you think it's a patch job but it's actually some goddamn piece of shit in the road and now your tire is going all thumpy.
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>>79407631
Looks like the truck driver was being as dick. Why would you make that turn with a car so close that it has to aplly breaks not to hit you?
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>>79412490
Then the road owners should be sued for creating an extremely hazardous environment.
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>>79412503
Because you are killing him.
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>>79412503
Maybe because humans have social skills and robots don't?

Or even maybe because half the drivers on the road are shit anyway so you learn to not take stupid chances because you didn't see there was a fucking hugeass truck about to cross the road?
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>>79412602
OK, back to your jew den, juden.
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>>79412705
>Those spasms

Mmmmm.
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>>79407631
Dude got decapitated.
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>>79412755
I'm just saying that in every civilized country I have been, including America, I have never seen a road like this. It is extremely dangerous and I guarantee more people had fatal injuries caused by this scenario than will ever die from driving a Tesla.
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>>79412705
I will never be able to make a woman cum that hard
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>>79407849
My feeling is Jaws for Windows is ready, for screen sensitive help, press insert plus F one
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>>79412054

don't forget the rhinoplasty.
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>>79411532

Let's conservatively say driverless cars ultimately reduce fatalities by 30% per year.

That's 30% of 30,000 road deaths in the US alone.

If Elon Musk has just delayed the rollout of driverless vehicles by one fucking year, he would have just inadvertently killed 9000 people.

This is why regulation and legislation are such long processes. One slip of the finger, one wrong key stroke at the highest level leads to literally thousands of deaths, and thousands of families having their lives completely ruined.

Thanks Elon.
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>>79412066
>LIDAR is expensive your life is not if you properly write EULA.
Such is life in Capitalist America.
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>>79412911
I guess that would disqualify you from designing car intelligence, then. It happens all day every day on highways that are not so clogged with traffic that you can't safely have people crossing them.

I shudder to think how you might deal with merging.
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>>79412705
all porn should have that watermark.
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>>79411829
that's the best part. imagine a sea of autopiloted vehicles and you swerving down the highway to push them off the road. their drivers mostly won't even notice or care that you're getting well ahead because of the accident avoidance systems. you'll be king shit of fuck mountain, leaf, you'll never sit in traffic again
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>>79406925
This is bs. If it was a human driver no one would blame them only the trailer driver
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>>79407631

I-is that supposed to be a freeway exit?

Jesus Christ... Why does it cross another freeway? Why are there no lights? Why is there no cloverleaf or something?

What the fug.
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>>79412179

the found of the navy seals didnt notice a truck pulling in front of him? and he was one of the people who has dirt on hillary?

really makes you think desu senpai
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>>79413139
It's not even POSSIBLE to cross a highway on every single highway I have ever driven on.
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>>79406925
while you took the time to make your shit post
1,000 people died in driver related fatalities ;^)
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Natural selection.
Doesn't matter how smart a car is when drivers in manually controlled vehicles are unpredictable. Should've been paying attention to the road and not their phone. Plus it's the price you pay for testing controversial new technology, people usually die.
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>>79412956

It's easier than you think. Put your index finger on her gspot and your thumb on her clit, start moving your hand around. Pay attention to her reactions, figure out what works for her and do that.

If I breathe slowly while lightly nibbling on her ear and playing with her breasts with my other hand, she reacts pretty similarly to that in just a few minutes. Her legs start shaking and everything. It's lots of fun.
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>>79411481
Because he's a retarded faggot who can't make a car
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>>79413332
>>79413295
You guys might not understand just how yuge this country is and the expectation of individual responsibility and recognition of reality we have.

It's literally nothing. If it's a highway of enough importance then we make it a proper limited-access highway with expensive signs, exits, entrances, ramps, bridges, etc. But for the rest it's literally who cares or is too autistic to drive a car properly.
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>>79407529
>>79411209
still falling for the le ebic genius man may may

WEW LAD
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>>79413295
It's a state highway-- lots of on-and-off traffic on them since houses and businesses are located right on them. Lower speed limits generally. Probably 55.

Very different than interstates.
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So how long until a self driving car butchers some dude on a motorcycle?
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>>79413217

The problem with this is that in the near future, more and more cars will have dash cams.

You will be recognized, and issued a citation from some government agency tracking violation through online media.
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>>79413599
>tfw your state did some trial 70 zones, found there were no resulting problems, and now there are more and more 70 zones
Still not sure what the unofficial rules are for getting tagged for speeding, but so far so good.
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>>79413514
And you don't understand just how dangerous an intersection that is CROSSING THE FUCKING FREEWAY is. Autopilot or not, this will go and has gone wrong extremely often.
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>>79409885

If a Tesla cannot even see a fucking 18 wheeler (!!!) crossing a highway, what CAN you rely it to see? 200 million miles or not, this seems like a pretty significant error...
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>>79413959
It's the rules of the road, chap. Program that into your computer.

BTW, ever been on the road in a proper 3rd world country where it makes a game of frogger look like a walk in the park? Somehow humans are able to navigate that all day every day. Maybe let's have a self-driving car be able to do that first before easy peasy shit like standard highways in the middle of nowhere with a lone truck.
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>>79413295

Why does /pol/ need so much hand holding from the government.
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>>79413297

Great. A new set of lures for the conspiracy trolls.
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>>79411829
>Except self-driving cars can communicate with each other and the infrastructure, cannot be drunk/high/distracted/tired and will not break basic traffic laws.

Great. Now drive one into Amsterdam where 75% of traffic at any given time are people on bicycles that do NOT communicate with self driving cars or infrastructure.. As a matter of fact, in terms of communication you should be VERY lucky if cyclists you encounter in the city even have the manditory lights, stick out their hand when turning and are NOT stuck to the screens of their phone.. If a Tesla cannot (apparantly) even handle dodging 18 wheelers crossing highways (why does this even happen btw, America?), why would you ever trust it in a more suburban or urban area?
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Someone post the article where they talk about how the cars can see red lights but not stop at them yet.
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>>79406925
>autopilot didn't notice the white side of the tractor trailer against a brightly lit sky
What the fucking hell?! The proximity sensors are radar or laser or whatever. Not colour pattern matching. You literally can't blind such a sensor with a brightly lit sky.

Stinks of cover up. Was the dead guy someone important?
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>>79414491
Are they able to stop at stop signs or yield at yield signs?

What about one-way signs? Or the absolutely crazy signs that not even humans can comprehend at road-going speeds?
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>>79407631
>>79413959
Jesus Christ. I didn't even know those highway intersections still exist? I don't even remember ever seeing one in my life, there's always guardrails with a ditch in the middle to prevent people from crossing it, also to prevent cars from being pushed to the other side when an accident happens.

That's the epitome of stupidity having an intersection right in the middle of a freaking highway, and also without any guardrails, to make it worse.
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>>79414109
post yfw you realize nvidia just threw away the enite future of it's business on a meme
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>>79414134
Are you seriously comparing America's roads to those of a 3rd world country thinking that helps your argument?

Also, I was going to send you a video of a guy who crossed India with his motocycle and shared his thoughts on the country which were literally ALL bad, but I can't find it. Have this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhQtawI1xYw

They can't navigate shit.
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>>79413332
You live in one of the most densely populated parts of Europe. Highways aren't always as busy as what you're used to.
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>>79413077
>ultimately reduce fatalities


well, DUH
if two driverless cars crash, of course there are no fatalities.
doesn't mean they aren't still shitboxes.
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>>79414664
It's not like the truck drifts around it at 60. The put all that space there so you can slow down, turn, and sit there and wait until there's a clearing in the other side before crossing.

And guess what. When you see somebody waiting there, you might think to yourself "well there's a pretty big open space between me and him so why don't I keep an eye on that in case he thinks he wants to go?"

Kind of like what you'd do with a person crossing the street at an unmarked crossing.
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>>79414664
Again, state road... not US Highway or Interstate.

Pic related: US Highway 101
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>>79414736
kek yeah that's why white countries have rules and signs and know how to drive

but to be honest if you have ever spent time in one of those places a whole damn lot of people get away with it day in and day out, in spite of the occasional spectacular bits.
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>>79413514
>You guys might not understand just how yuge this country is and the expectation of individual responsibility and recognition of reality we have.

You might not understand how Europeans expect safe highways where you can do 80MPH without being hassled by fucking trucks literally CROSSING the road...
>But for the rest it's literally who cares or is too autistic to drive a car properly
But the dead guy wasn't even driving himself.. Robot should have saved him.

>>79413599
>Lower speed limits generally. Probably 55.

That sort of explains it.. 55mph is about 90km/h, which is 10km above the speed limit for 'provinciale wegen' we have in this country. It's not uncommon to see crossings like that on those roads, but usually there are at least markings on the road to warn for possible crossing traffic.
>Very different than interstates.
Yeah, I think our 'snelweg' (speedway) correlates to your interstates, and the standard speed limit is 80MPH on those... You don't want to see trucks crossing when you're doing 130km/h, typically.

>>79414136

I don't need the government to hold my hand, I just need them to design roads in a way that enables me to drive fast on them without having to take fucking crossing trucks into account.. But the other anon explained that it's likely a rural road with limited speed (55), which would not be considered a highway here..

>>79414700

>mfw I just bought an Nvidea

They better keep supporting the GTX-series.

>>79414799

Still though.. Crossing highways? But, like I said above... If the speed limit is 55mph it's acceptable I guess.
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>>79414799
It's not about that. You're inside of a hunk of heavy metal travelling at tremendous speed. On top of that there is that factor of human error. If your roads aren't safe, the people who drive on it won't be either. This isn't the fault of either of the two drivers, but of the person that gave the okay to create this dangerous intersection.
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>>79413959

>we need more government controls.

You know what really annoys me. All these stupid medians preventing me from making a U-turn. Let's save some tax money and get rid of all that shit.
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>>79415132
>80MPH
Speed limit on that was likely 55 you fucktard.

Its not an interstate
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>>79414936

>[THUDTHUD INTENSIFIES]

For fuck sake America, what's wrong with smooth asphalt?
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>>79415251
This. The roads over there suck.
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>>79415132
I do 80MPH down such highways on the regular. Actually just under 80MPH because going over is the trigger point for the cops and I enjoy pulling the levers and pressing the pedals and turning the wheels and knobs on my car to pass the time.

Never even came close to ramming into a truck. I'll take driving with a fleet of trucks before bimbo mom on her phone in a semi-automated SUV all night every night.
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>>79413726

Let's push that envelope to 80.
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>>79415237

If you'd read the rest of the post you'd know another anon already mentioned that. I was under the impression your 'highways' are roughly the same as our 'snelwegen', but apparantly state highways (?) are more like the provincial roads we have in rural areas, where you indeed have to expect crossing traffic and stuff like agricultural vehicles.
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>>79415132
sorry, they're only supporting memes from now on
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>>79406925
>camera got blinded by the sun and could not differentiate between that and a white trailer
I called this. I knew the software and hardware couldn't know difference between a kid's lost tennis ball, hail, and baby frogs.
>SOLVE GABGHUHS (Captchas) BLS
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>>79415251

Come back when you have so many cars and such extensive road networks and gibsmedats needin mo' money for dem programs and militaryniggers sucking the state dry
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>>79415251
>>79415342
trudat

Concrete expansion joints are an old cultural thing. My mom used to tell me stories of dad driving her back down to see the family at 55 because 55 was the speed limit in the family station wagon and listening to the road go

buh-dump
buh-dump
bud-dump
bud-dump

It's why Japanese and European suspension and handling is such a novelty here.
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>>79415411
Oh, is it like that? Yeah okay my bad, Americanon. We have the same shit. I was under the same impression as this guy thinking people were blasting down this road with 120kmph.
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>>79413295
It's USA mate

They don't like to tax their billionaires so their roads are just tracks of dust lol.
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>>79415369

I think (semi) automated cars might cause more problems than they solve in a situation like the one that cost this man his life.. I can't imagine doing 90km/h (55mph) on a straight road and NOT seeing a fucking tractor trailer combination, no matter how bright the sun would be.. If I had to guess I'd say the guy wasn't watching the road.
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>>79415410
I'll never forget the time I crossed into an 85 area and I was like "fuck yeah 85"

My car's engine almost exploded because it wasn't geared for that, the roads were like the surface of the moon, and it was the only time I had to slow down because I thought I was about to tossed off the road into my certain death. Fun times.
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>>79415552
Read the article.

The fucktard was watching a movie.
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>>79415619
>My car's engine almost exploded because it wasn't geared for that
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>>79415700
top speed 88 faggot

Rig the carb with wires, nuts, and bolts, crank up the distributor cap, punch holes in the carb, RAM AIR INDUCTION MUFFUGGA, and pedal that shit to the metal
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>>79415469

>Americans in charge of efficiency, infrastructure and frugal govenmental policy

Sometimes I forget the US is a borderline third world state.


Also, is Captcha giving anyone else shit? It keeps giving me empty white boxes that freeze, and then after half a minute or so it asks me to pick soups, sandwiches or street signs.
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>>79411774
>the truck driver is the one who ran into the Tesla

nope. The truck was an obstruction and the tesla, being on the highway, ran through.
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>>79415882
Yup, happens to me too. Someone fucked up.
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>I am sorry, Michael, you have to die, I am also fucking your wife.
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>>79415871
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>>79415626
And they still frame it like he wouldn't have seen it if he was driving manually.
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>>79416036
1.5L of 8:1 jewconomy gascrisis japanese fury and you can't handle factory 75hp of truth.

Like flying a tent in a hurricane.
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>>79409340
>Superior multitasking
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>>79415410

I'll never forget the time I was going 120mph and the governor kicked in. So annoying.
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>human error on both sides
>self-driving cars are done!

roll out a 5% discount, update the customer agreement and it'll be fine
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>>79415619
>>79415871

Manual or auto? My gfs Chevy Spark 1.0L (995cc actually) LPG3 (!) does 90mph top speed according to the brochure. And I can personally confirm it does 85 without much hassle, provided you keep the AC off and the wind isn't too strong (lel).

What the fuck kind of car isn't geared for 85?
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>>79416339
Early '80s japbox, but it was a beast.

Honestly, I'm not sure if it could have gone faster with a 5th gear or just have been less loud. At leas the engine was basically indestructable.
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>>79415882

I though it was just me. I'm driving while typing this, and thought I had a bad signal.
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>>79415132
>there are at least markings on the road to warn for possible crossing traffic.


there were markings and even an "island" for crossing traffic, see picture. All of this doesn't help if you're not looking.
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>>79406925
So this amazing "self driving car" does not, in fact, drive itself, you have to drive it, in contradiction to all the marketing... what is the fucking point?
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>>79407631
yield to the throughline
self driving car had right of way
idiot truck driver killed someone
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I mean honestly, is anyone REALLY surprised by this? Did people think self driving cars were going to be immaculate right out the door? Not to mention all the variables of other drivers coming into play.
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>>79406925
"Tesla says Autopilot has been used for more than 130 million miles, noting that, on average, a fatality occurs every 94 million miles in the US and every 60 million miles worldwide. "

teslas are already safer than any cars ever built
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>>79417550
Right of way doesn't matter when you're about to kill somebody. That goes for cyclists as well.

Cyclists get along pretty alright here because the cars and the cyclists both are kindly toward each other and then break rules for mutual benefit when the opportunity arises.

It's like when you're on the highway and it's a passing zone and you can quite legally drive straight in to oncoming traffic. How do you know when to pass? Do you go through with it or do you nope out? How will the car or cars you're about to pass react, and what will the oncoming traffic, if any, do when they see you playing chicken with them?
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>>79407631
why the fuck didn't the truck use the turn lane. He turned from the traffic lane according to the sketch
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>>79407849
>blind
>leaf
>into firearms
/k/anadian, is that you?
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>>79409885
that stat is as useful as the volkswagen fume testing results
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>>79417464
its not self driving, its driving assistance.
Another term the media butchered, just like the media immediately says "robots are taking over the world" when AI is meant
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>>79417844

That's a meaningless statistic because it doesn't take location into account.
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>>79417884
>the cars and the cyclists both are kindly toward each other

Regardless of my mode of transportation i hate bicycles.
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>>79415626
So? Computers will never understand our God given abilities nor be anything other than Thelma and Louise death traps for political dissidents
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>>79416337
>update the customer agreement
it already said that he had to have his hands on the wheel ready to take control at any time since it's literally in public beta
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>>79417988
Hes right you know.
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I fucking hate truck drivers so much. Today I hard one take a right on red onto the expressway right as our light was turning green. It fucking took up 3 lanes while it turned right. The cunt wasn't even from our state and had these faggot spikes on his truck rims. I proceeded to break check the fuck out of him for the next mile while the other people who got fucked over at the light boxed him in on the sides.

Fuck Texas truck drivers. Get OUT of North dakota. Stay out of our cities!
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>>79413114
Tesla is revolutionary, and a vision come true.
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>>79418079
We gave them some bike parks and bike trails and bike lanes and that seems to have satisfied them, and to have kept their numbers down on the road to where it's no worse than shit drivers or waiting at a red light.
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>>79418159
>Today I hard one take a right on red

THERE

IS NOTHING

WRONG WITH

TURNING RIGHT

ON RED

IN DELAWARE
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>>79418110
of course, the fume test results were also correct, the car actually did not put out NOx on the test bed.
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>>79418061
what on earth are you even trying to say
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>>79411481
snake oil salesman
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Does anyone know what sensors are currently required/available for the Model S autonomous mode?
I think it launched without LIDAR of any kind and that's fucking insane to me.

I know the people working on this are surely world class vision engineers but there are times when it's simply going to fail like this.
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>>79418295
There is when there is 3 lanes of traffic coming and you are a big fucking truck that needs all 3 lanes to turn .
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>>79413706

1984 for the road is only 10 years away.
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F A T A L I T Y
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>>79418444
>die in a car crash
>go to court
>judge asks for deposition
>sorry, couldn't tell the difference between an 18 wheeler and a sky
>jury deliberates
>white 18 wheelers are now illegal
>also you pay $500k dollars for legal and medical fees
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>>79412705
sauce?
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>>79418346

You need to compare like with like. They test the cars in specific areas, not all over the place. They also tend to avoid certain conditions (snow storms etc.) The fatality comparison is even more meaningless because it doesn't take car safety measures into account.
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>>79414401
Don't drive bike. Nobody will miss these faggots anyway.
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>>79413295
That's a 2-lane highway, not an interstate. An interstate usually has at least 3 lanes (there are cases where it can be 2 for a couple miles). Exits on interstates usually lead up to a bridge going over it, or under a bridge that is part of the interstate.
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>>79419124
Ryussia goes hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4917-j_Ky0
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>>79407777
You dishonor KEK.
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Elon Musk is 100% white, successful entrepreneur, not overtly liberal, etc. Does /pol/ hate him just because he's popular/successful?

White people are self-destructing
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>>79419571
>not overtly liberal
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>>79419625
Am I wrong? He's caught a lot of flack by liberal media for donating to repubs in congress
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>>79419625
he's a super-nationalist, he's as pro-american as can be
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>>79411938
Underrated
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>>79407631
Looks like Perlblossom tbqh


Hate that death toll path
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Reminder that self driving cars aren't out, cars have self driving FEATURES that say you should always have hands on the wheel and watch the road.
This retard was watching a movie.
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First self driving car fatality is literally when a semi truck did not yield the right of way.
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>>79408688
That was Cuba Gooding Jr. Aka Comanche Joe
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>>79420247
I once drove a thing with a backup camera TV.

I was like, holy fuck I have no idea what is going on. We regularly had each other and our kids get out to flag us how to reverse this thing without hurting it or anybody else, and also get it level, and all these other variables that you can't just put into an equation.

gl with sleeping with your hands on the wheel and being bored as a solution.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3-epk_ztQ

Tesla autopilot fails have been in the news for one year or more now.

Adaptive cruise controls fail all the time because of weather, glare, blocked sensors...
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>>79412054
>weightlifting

Dudes just juiced and does the bare minimum
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>>79415619
Do you guys in commie nanny states really get excited about going 85?

I break 90 every time I head to a lake for the weekend
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>>79420517
The point is that the technology to watch a movie while the car drivers isn't there yet and people still need to pay attention.
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>>79413496

REEEEEEEE DON'T GIVE THEM THE SECRET TIPS
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>>79420920
I get more excited by the opportunity to break 90. Might as well be driving around a pack of horse-drawn wagons most of the time.

>be me
>35' fixed truck
>based duramax 6.6
>middle of wyoming
>trying to watch the spedo and look up to see a yuge road sign saying "time for a 90 degree to the right"
>tiem to engage racecar mode
>crank the rear end out like my life depends on it
>weight transfer engaged
>next sign says lol crank it to the left
>level out and swing it back the other way
>American suspension eats up the entire road

Family didn't even wake up. It was glorious. Computers will never feel something like that.
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>>79419124

Bike is pretty much the best way of getting around old Dutch cities though... Our cities were not designed with cars in mind, and unless you like stop lights, waiting for traffic and not being able to park anywhere (legally anyway) a bicycle is a much nicer way of getting around Amsterdam.
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if you've never gone over 130mph you're basically not a man
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