Get in here lads
reporting in
me and my comrades are ready to swarm and stab any unarmed individuals that don't agree with our politics
fuck fascism!
>>79382820
>me and my comrades are ready to swarm and get stabbed by any individuals that don't agree with our politics
>>79382164
Are you a masochist or a satirical shitposter?
>>79382164
Today I saw a white man on the train trying to sit down next to a elderly woman. I told him to go away with his cis het white privilige and that he should stop raping her personal space.
Fucking asshole
>>79382164
>>79383133
Yesterday Antifa thugs stabbed a girl for drawing a fucking anime-girl with swastika. Poor girl didn't even know what antifa was. She was like 15 or 16. The government doesn't want or media to print that. Guys from Azov already made threats
>>79383224
>>79383227
Cool story Hohol
who is worse, neo nazis or antifanten?
>>79382164
Psofa epitelous mwrh lougkra gamhmene alvane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkLmWjMh7ao
>>79383227
I don't have her drawing, but she drew something like this. Just pretend there is a reich flag behind her.
>>79383305
sry bro, no proof yet. Azov will march tomorrow demanding justice, I'll make a post about it
>>79383351
both are bad
ugh.. racists.. I mean.. can they just...not
>>79383224
>>79383305
Are you the same antifakike that posts in all the holohoax threads? I bet you are
>>79383435
wat
>>79383305
Here's her photo
>>79383435
smart, that way they can say that being anti antifa means being anti isreal which means being an anti semite
you guys ready to smash some fascism?
>tfw I CC and wear a trump hat
Just counting the days until I get to put some of you cucks in the dirt. There is literally nothing more pleasurable to me than the idea of some disgusting antifascists screaming on the ground, crying for their little mothers as they rapidly bleed out from the savage wounds inflicted by my .357.
But then, Antifas prefer to attack people in wheelchairs or little girls, not big white men. I suppose I might get lucky and run into ten of them, then they might have the courage to try something.
>>79383480
I have noticed a kike with an Austrian flag posting cuck porn and defending muh 6 gorillion I bet it's you
>>79383649
>.357
Better be talking about Sig, or it's you that is the cuck, my friend.
>>79382164
hello comrades
>>79383430
Ewwww shit..
>>79383907
>>79383907
Hi
>>79383351
They're effectively the same societal cancer. What makes Antifa just slightly worse is the level of acceptance they're met with. When a Neo Nazi posts "ISCH KILLE ALLE AUSLÄNTER!" on Facebook, there's an outrage. When the Antifa sets cars ablaze in their retarded Rigaer 94 protests, the city actually considers caving in to their demands.
>>79383970
>>79384013
>>79384013
Lol it's that commie neckbeard again. Cringe. Why are you so obssesed with /pol/ get a hobby or something
>>79383508
Don't make them smarter than they are.
I mean it's like the opposite, being antifa they want to claim they are anti anti semite, because hitler and shit.
They end up claiming being pro israel, which is quite a fascist country.
Maybe they don't understand the difference between a state and a diaspora, and they may have support from israel for doing their shit in first world countries.
But, if it just makes sense that people are stupid, fat chance they just are.
>>79384097
>>79382164
>>79384111
kek no but he seems like a top lad
>>79383907
>>79383970
>>79384013
>>79384097
>>79384164
The lefty/pol/ autists are leaking again
>>79384226
>>79384279
fug off
Where do anti-fa's actually come together at?
/r/socialism?
>>79384348
>>79384351
/leftypol/
>>79384285
I never thought about this but Libertarian colors are black and yellow and the mascot is a snake
Fuck dude, thats actually way cooler then the other shit
>>79384450
>>79384348
Cringe. Jason is that you?
>>79384497
>>79384450
/leftypol/ is too lazy to attract anything with "Aktion" in its name. They're just a bunch of commie fan fiction writers.
>>79384502
consider me exposed
A question for experienced activists ITT. Should I prep the bull before or after he's done with my wife?
>>79384634
>>79384450
Ahh alright
What the fuck gets anyone into communism, fuck it's so weird how that has any fan base
>>79382164
You are now aware that the Antifa logo is a big black man BLACKING someone from behind.
>>79384497
>>79384559
these are fun
sometimes it's cute to have the boards own jokes lobbed back for once
>>79384279
The /pol/ satire and alt right are bullshit
The rest is just the /pol/ usual shit, with bankers and politics not recognized as jews.
But once you statistically show most bankers and politics are jews, you have /pol/ material
Peckerwoods come out of the weeds, we cut 'em down.
>>79384696
It sure is summer in here
>>79384226
>>79384285
>>79384348
>>79384450
>>79384497
>>79384559
Oh boy, yet another sheltered western pig-dog who thinks he knows what communism is about.
If you are not trolling, i really hope Trudeau fucks your country so far up the ass you get to live an eternal life in a canacuck gulag.
>>79384998
>>79385062
>>79382164
You are that which you pretend to oppose... Knowingly or not, you support a Khazar plutocracy.
Go fuck yourselves, every single one of you.
Cunts
>>79385104
>>79385182
Are there actually leftists on /pol/ or is this thread a meme?
Disgusting. Back to r/communism with you.
>>79384634
Do you still live in your mom's basement
>>79385279
>Are there actually leftists
No they are a few autist neckbeards from cripplechan just ignore their threads and they will go away. And always remember to sage
>>79385275
>>79385279
I think they're trolling, but this type of trolling is the cancer killing /pol/ because it actually makes lefties feel welcome here.
Also reminder that every time Antifa don't outnumber their enemy 20 to 1 they get the shit kicked out of them
>>79385349
I'll just leave this here.
>>79385410
>>79382164
I am not racist or fascist but i agree to destroy everything to build something new
OH HAI GUYS NOTHING TO SEE HERE JUST A FELLOW ANTIFA PASSING BY
>>79382164
Antifa Finland, sieg heil every1.
>>79382164
why are antifa members such childish cucks? do they really not grasp global politics and do they just want to fight?
>>79385499
>>79385279
There used to be one, but I changed.
>>79385542
They actually believe they're modern day revolutionaries who are overthrowing fascism when they're actually just Merkel's attack dogs.
Government funded mob violence to silence those who disagree with them, all in the name of anti-fascism.
>>79385557
>>79385542
i think they think they're part of some superhero group or something preventing everyone from spontaneously morphing into hitler
and they're bored and invalidated because said morphing thing hasn't happened ever
>>79382932
Hitler's IQ Was 125
IQ
1 Hjalmar Schacht 143
2 Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141
3 Hermann Goering 138
4 Karl Doenitz 138
5 Franz von Papen 134
6 Eric Raeder 134
7 Dr. Hans Frank 130
8 Hans Fritsche 130
9 Baldur von Schirach 130
10 Joachim von Ribbentrop 129
11 Wilhelm Keitel 129
12 Albert Speer 128
13 Alfred Jodl 127
14 Alfred Rosenberg 127
15 Constantin von Neurath 125
16 Walther Funk 124
17 Wilhelm Frick 124
18 Rudolf Hess 120
19 Fritz Sauckel 118
20 Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113
21 Julius Streicher 106
>>79385646
keked
>>79385649
>>79385532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hJWlKk4oas
ANTIFA
HA
HA
HA
What's the point of antifa?
>>79385723
Right well that was my entire leftypol folder, enjoy
im only on /pol/ to monitor the spread of hate speech and racism on the internet
we have brought down many nazi websites this way and more will follow
i used to hate you people until i realized you are sad fucks fading from history
>>79383227
I hope Azov drag them to the streets and kill them.
One of these days the facist "antifas" are going to piss off the wrong people and there will be a severe beat down. I wouldn't do anything, but others will.
>>79382164
A literal mental illness
Hahahah kill yourself autistic faggots
https://www.change.org/p/berkeley-unified-school-district-fire-yvette-felarca
Down with fascism!
>>79385739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjRM3n9hAQ#t=51s
>>79385813
>spread of hate speech and racism on the internet
>im only on /pol/
well how do you even know it's spreading dumbfuck
>>79385691
You forgot about that one black middleschool girl who had a higher IQ than Einstein
Obligatory for every antifa scum thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqcU5UpBQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq5aVVojtas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_47cjcP0xE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R8MAuLanJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtERWbJZcws
>>79385848
>not wanting to curb stomp antifa
low energy m8
proud antifa here
>>79385813
lmfao, get lost. You fuckers are some of the most hateful, bigoted people there are who hide behind buzzwords like equality and love. Most people here are just trolling, you guys are fucking serious.
leftypol/res/761716.html
>>79385785
Pro-violence political party, but afraid to say it out load
>>79386066
cripplechan fags get out, it's not our fault people don't use your shitty site and you have to advertise your views here when you're lonely.
>>79382911
God. You intolerant shitlord! I literally can't even.
Don't you know that in the CURRENT YEAR people are BORN an ideology - not TAUGHT.
I can't believe you're still posting that picture in the CURRENT YEAR. I mean, come on!
>>79385978
Yeah, because it is a normal trend for all niggers to be super intelligent space warping time travellers
>>79386066
>there was a flag for "anarcho-feminist"
what the fuck?
>>79383492
pop that whitehead and shes a 8/10
>>79386212
actually I was a c-section
>>79385848
It already happened in Sacramento
>>79386212
Is that how people imitate leftist /idpol/ tards? You can do better m8
>>79386269
meme magic my Australian friend
I stand with hate speach
I stand with freedom of speach
I stand with violence against banks, states
I dont stand for fascism or any kind of violence against humans
>>79386212
Funny how atheists fight against Christian "indoctrination" of children, yet when you're a muslim, you're "BORN muslim". Kill me.
>>79386237
great job missing the joke
>>79383993
Such an intricate image
>>79386459
I was following with it
>>79382164
b8 for the summerfags
>>79386505
Your post seemed overly sarcastic
>>79386269
read it again
it's even anarcha-feminism. Anarcho was too male.
>>79385476
praise kek
>>79386025
>anti-speciesism
Holy shit. The gift that keeps on giving.
What scares me the most is that there are people that actually believe this shit.
It's fucking spooky
>>79382164
Let me clear up a misconception im sure some of you who are new to politics will have :
antifacists and anarchists arent the same. anti-facists are a mixture of leftist /potentially liberterian right ideologies who seem to be hypocritical when it comes to acts vs views they hold.
to have integrity and be a facist means not to complain about people using the same tactics as you would, when you where in power
to have integrity and be an anarchists CAN both mean to not follow rules /therby doing "facist like" stuff, like not accept ideas, hate free speech ect.
the diffrence between facists and anarchists is simple - anarchists are an anti-rulers, which is integral to the definition of being one. The rest is up for debate. While facists have to act in an authoritarian manner inorder to have some form of integrity
most of these types of threads however boils down to people being bad/hypocritical facists
while some anarchists who are still on this site arent actually being as stupid as the majority of /pol/
that is all, read some books friends, politics is hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
Theme for the thread, Trumps going to bring back the light
>>79384285
How in the fuck could anarchism ever work?
>>79386563
>Anarcho was too male.
i don't even want to make fun of these guys anymore i just want to forget they ever existed
>>79382164
Antifa are pussies. You faggots got stomped by shit tier skinheads that were out numbered and unarmed. Heil Hitler !!
>>79384285
Get real, canuck
>>79386702
You need everyone to give money to an armed organization that will enforce anarchy of course
Just in the interest of fairness...
http://[eight]ch.net/leftypol/res/761716.html
>>79385940
/pol/ is a hub, TONS of sites get linked on here daily. I follow these and if they are hateful or bigoted i report to antifa in a given country so they can work with their law enforcement to shut a website down. Pretty effective in west europe ;)
>>79386818
Oh yeah, and this is a flag bearer thread now because Antifa is gay
>>79385649
Saved. Got any more Stirner memes? I need to expand my folder.
>>79386960
>TONS of sites get linked on here daily
you mean articles?
>>79386964
>>79386964
>>79386975
not many
>>79384450
trudeau, stop this gay shit.
>>79387250
>>79383375
ahhahaha
>>79382820
fpbp, ans by a leaf no less
>>79387330
Finland gets the best memes
>>79385006
kek, saved
>>79384497
more accurate /leftypol/ spongebob pic
>>79383993
This is so many levels of neta
>>79385691
Yet, with his 125 IQ, he achieved more in his short lifetime than 99.9% of people will in their 70+ years. He brought germoney from a poverty stricken hell hole to a world power in 5 years. What have you done? Virtue signalling and screaming 'fuck fascists' on street corners? You're nothing.
My ancestors are smiling at me, antifa, can you say the same?
>>79386818
>Integralists
>Use the discrete sum symbol
I don't know if it's a deep philosophical point made or just a stupid mix up
>>79388170
That's the joke m80. Riemann integration.
lefty/pol/ unite!
>>79387578
Technically, the starfish is right.
If "Siezing the means of production" was all that constituted a socialist revolution, then the American and French revolution would have been examples of socialism beause the property of nobles was expropriated.
>>79388394
'ello Iceland
>>79388561
Hi Canada :3
>>79386957
Bumping this
would advise people shitpost this board when they really have to instead of here, they absolutely hate it.
>>79388129
Which all other nations in the world also did.
It's not like the great depression just continued in the rest of the world. America especially had great economic growth by implementing redistributive programmes, that brought them out of poverty, even without having to rob people and sell of state property like Hitler did.
>>79388674
>Which all other nations in the world also did.
Not really.. not at all... fkn weird youd even say that
YOU ARE A FUCKING DEGENERATE!
Not sure what to make of this degeneracy.
>>79385006
Saved and reproducing
>>79388774
Degenerate is a spook
Proud antifascist reporting in. Fuck fascist pigs, they should all be executed. I encounter microfascism and microagressions against PoC in my school everyday and I fight against it proudly.
>>79388457
...aaaaaand here we have a person acting literally as retarded as caricatured strawmen arguments.
Nice job. Have your (You)
>>79388844
Funny thing abut that picture in particular is you could replace the anrco with some neo nazi and it would still apply
>>79382164
How do you guys get paid?
Biweekly or Weekly? Or is your invoice a direct deposit?
Hillary's only paying me $ .01 per thread these days. But at least I get free Pepperidge Farms.
>>79383056
I'm drunk.
What does het mean in this context?
>>79389085
Except neo-nazis don't hide themselves that much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s11uJkXmx7M
>>79388561
>Kill people for wanting democracy
>No guys, we're not the violent authoritarians!
>>79389196
Oh... wait.
>>79388761
The recovery in the US was much better than the one in Germany and it wasn't dependent on expropriating the property of other people and eliminating your debitors.
Hitler ran a pyramid scheme and sold off what belonged to the German state.
>>79389021
>UGH
>I CAN'T EVEN
>ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ARGUING THAT?!
>UGH
So tell me friend, was the American and French revolutions communist and thus the US and France communist countries because means of production were siezed?
>>79382164
canada antifa here
i'm going to shoot heroin and tattoo my face with my cheque from soros
I pepper sprayed a young family for their facist views. Was I too soft on them?
"Allahu ackbar" - Noah T. Burgstein
>>79389236
>--------------> The joke
>your head
>>79382164
Greece never disappoints. As I remember from the 90s, antifa was always strongest with you guys, we learned many things from you.
>>79389612
>>79382164
ONE POST BY THIS USER. Seriously, does antifa really think we would appriciate their assbardwardness here. gtfo
>>79389085
>Neo Nazi
>That picrure
Nope, as real Neo Nazi openly fight against constitutions and governments.
Dont confuse them with the LARPERs on her
>>79389271
You are clearly in idiot. Be a hero today
>>79389832
>They're not REAL nazis
Well, couldn't an anarchist say the same about life-stylists who support neoliberals?
>>79389821
who is this we faggot?
no one cares if you appreciate anything
>>79389832
kek
>>79384159
If antifa is pro Israel, that must mean they are anti-Palestinian and anti-Muslim.
>continues virtue signaling jews, muslims, gays
>>79382911
i grew up without any racist parents in a neocon household yet still developed a hate/distrust for mexicans that i don't have for any other race
the "racism is taught" meme isn't true.
>>79390272
Antifa is not a unitary movement. It's a confederation of local chapters.
It's both pro and anti Israel.
Depends on the chapter.
>>79390386
It's mostly anti-Israel, undoubtedly.
>>79389287
Nope, not at all.
Nice projection though.
You do realize that we are talking about an actual example in the real world, not some theoretical bullshit right? Do YOU deny that Venezuela was a place where a socialist party was voted into power, and they proceeded to seize the means of production?
You literally brought a strawman and now ask me to defend it. So how am I wrong about you acting like a total retard? Just curious.
>>79389271
>Neo nazi
>Brings up a good example of the fact that only people with things to hide don't show their face
>Brings up KKK that differs somewhat from neo-nazi groups, while they share views
Nice going there.
So strongly against something yet no clue what you're going on about.
I'll just lump you in with Stalin then.
>>79383133
What the fuck, I'm autistic now
>>79386960
so, you come to /pol/ JUST to narc others out?
you're the lowest kind of scum.
>>79390356
OR maybe you are just stupid and you overgeneralized your assumptions and experiences into hatred of nationality/race
questions questions
>>79390490
>You do realize that we are talking about an actual example in the real world, not some theoretical bullshit right? Do YOU deny that Venezuela was a place where a socialist party was voted into power, and they proceeded to seize the means of production?
Yes, and so again if "siezing the means of production" is all that makes socialism, then the US and France is communist too.
What matters is who controls them. Is there direct democracy and ownership of the workplace by the workers themselves? No? Then it is not socialism.
If siezing it is all that is required, nearly all revolutions have been socialist.
If you're triggered by the name, then I suppose that you believe that the Democratic Republic of Congo was always a democracy and that America turns into a republic when a Republican is in office and a democracy when a Democrat is in office.
The difference between a Socialist and socialism is the difference between democracy and a Democrat.
Nothing strawmanning about it.
>>79383227
>drawing anime
nothing of value was hurt
>>79389960
>neo liberal anarchists
Yes of course they can say it, and I would accept it, as the jews also undermining their movement with LARPERs.
>>79390062
Why kek, if it is mostly true. But as you anarchists have your moronic infantery, we also have ours, unless ours is has better weapons and better conections into information agencies, while the real nazis have a comfy place in administartion, at least around her.
>>79384752
Cant be unseen.
>>79389287
>The recovery in the US was much better than the one in Germany and it wasn't dependent on expropriating the property of other people and eliminating your debitors.
>Hitler ran a pyramid scheme and sold off what belonged to the German state.
You said "all nations" and now just comparing two for the second time ??? Why would you say that, it;'s ridiculous and makes you look like a moron, especially when you're trying so hard not to
>>79385691
High IQ is to be expected among all leaders desu.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the numbers were similar for the communist leadership at the time.
>>79390843
its so nice to see someone that isnt part of the circlejerk here
>>79390991
Yes, excuse me.
I meant "all western industrialized countries".
Essentially all countries that were affected by the depression in the first place.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't assume that people know not to include countries that are not affected in the first place.
>>79389085
No, it really would not.
Back to cripplechan you leaf cock
>>79390428
That's pretty fascist of them to hate jews like that. Somebody should made a group that uses mob violence to silence these kinds of people.
Oh...
Local antifa leader was found out to be a statutory rapist and chased out of my city a few years back.
Why are you all such degenerates?
>>79390549
He's trolling, /pol/ moves too fast to be able to properly analyse everything that gets posted here.
If he froze /pol/ at one time, by the time he had finished reading it all he would have missed an additional 200+ new threads in that time.
>>79391540
Sauce for reproduction please
>>79390843
And tell me how this relates to Venezuela?
You're still talking up in the air when you are given a real example?
What about Venezuela makes it not socialist?
You may have issues with reading, but I pretty heavily implied that seizing the means of production is only one piece of the puzzle.
That makes you ENTIRE point a strawman, like it or not. The entire gif was about Venezuela. You missed the entire point if you can't tell what makes Venezuela not socialist.
>>79389085
When was the last time 'neo-Nazis' voted the way Soros, Sachs and the IMF advocated?
When you realise this board used to be home of all anti-fascist, anti-government anti-communist parties.
What do you do when a movement organizes its members in the webs?
You send the shills.
thus pol incorrect became political correct just leaning towards the right.
Highly doubt anybody here was around 10 years ago when pol was actually incorrect, against the system and well organized.
>>79391610
>What about Venezuela makes it not socialist?
Are the workplaces run in direct democracies by the workers themselves within the workplace?
Yes or no?
If no, then it is per definition not socialism, regardless of the label it seeks to use.
>That makes you ENTIRE point a strawman, like it or not. The entire gif was about Venezuela. You missed the entire point if you can't tell what makes Venezuela not socialist.
Their entire arguement was that means of production was siezed and thus it was socialism. Which, but that logic, also makes the American revolution a socialist one.
>>79391608
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.ca/2013/03/sexual-assault-accusation-against.html
here is your delivery. the guy used to hang around DIY punk shows and hit on underage chicks and try to get them drunk/high enough to rape them. i love how they try to distance themselves from this guy in the article they wrote, but ARC is stock full of people like this.
>>79391763
They vote Republican all the time.
The IMF has no problem with that.
>>79391763
1939
>>79392032
Thank you
>>79384888
I dunno man it says right there one of us cut 6 of you down and you're using underhanded scheming tactics to get revenge
You preening semi man
>>79384450
Thanks Justin, now I know how to infiltrate them.
>>79392049
There are a bunch of nationalist parties in the US, if they are Neo-Nazis they are probably voted for them rather than Republicans. But the idea that the IMF would prefer a Republican to a Democrat is erroneous, they really don't care which of the two get's in, or at least didn't before Trump came along and ran on an anti-globalist ticket. Although they've probably reconciled themselves with the idea that he wont go through with it and have gone back to not caring.
>>79382164
Hoi lads
Not antifa though, just leftard
Heard a report about the French Refugee Commission's President (governement body), he said interesting things about migrants
>deport economic migrants
>condemm traffickers to war crimes charge
>deport people who are not concerned by Asylum
>when the conflict end, deport all non-naturalised refugees.
What you think ?
>>79391880
>Are the workplaces run in direct democracies by the workers themselves within the workplace?
That's not what socialism is though.
A collective is not necessarily a direct democracy.
Wherever you got that from, they are making up their own definitions for words. Even worse if you came up with that definition yourself.
Besides, do you actually think that that would run BETTER than Venezuela instead of worse? You're talking about pure fantasy that would result in an ineffectual system. Inefficiency increases with more democracy. That is a necessary evil in many cases but I hope you're not daft enough to claim that the system would be effective. What evidence do you have about the fact that that system wouldn't suffer WORSE problems than the Stalinist, Juche or Maoist state?
>Their entire arguement was that means of production was siezed and thus it was socialism. Which, but that logic, also makes the American revolution a socialist one.
How can you be THIS daft? The entire argument was that VENEZUELA seized the means of production, which meant that the collective (in this case the state) owned the means of production, and thus - Venezuela was socialist. Look at it again and tell me I'm wrong about this.
>>79382932
Liberal- We need guns illegal, they kill people
Conservatives- we need immigrants illegal, they kill people
So much intellectual difference. It's practically night and day.
>>79384279
ebin
>>79382932
Also whoever threw captions on this missed the point. The brainless one is the only one who's happy.
>>79385646
>government funded
source?
>>79382164
Autistische Aktion
>>79383907
>Resolve to enter the middle east to stop a dictator gassing his own people
>Leftists disagree with this
>Lie about him having WMDs and invade anyway to end the humanitarian crisis
>Leftists disagree with this
>Begin arming and training security forces to stabilise the region and ensure democracy in exchange for Oil so the alliance is mutual beneficial and not just extremely expensive foreign aid
>Leftists disagree with this
>Next president is elected on a platform that includes a promise to leave
>Leftists vote for him
>Leave in a few years without having the chance to finish erecting infrastructure to stabilise region
>Leftists disagree with this
Your next line will be "m-muh oil, muh capitalists!"
>>79392914
>That's not what socialism is though.
Yes. That is what socialism is. That's what socialism has always been. It's what both Bakunin and Marx called socialism. It's what Kropotkin, Malatesta, Durruti, Makhno, Engels, Hess, Tucker and Spooner all called socialism.
It's been the definition of socialism since the beginning of the 19th century.
>A collective is not necessarily a direct democracy.
It has to be in order for it do be socialism as envisioned by socialists.
>The entire argument was that VENEZUELA seized the means of production, which meant that the collective (in this case the state) owned the means of production
A state is perhaps a collective, but not *the collective* and certainly not a collective of those workers working in the actual work-place, meaning that state-ownership is just not socialism, it's just state-run capitalism.
Indeed, Lenin recognized this and called the system he implemented "state capitalism" because he knew it wasn't socialism.
Look it up.
>>79382164
Hello
>>79385850
>political ideologies can be mental illness
Hello Brezhnev.
>>79382879
>>79383253
Why are these implying that fascism and capitalism are the same? Fascism is part socialism which is the exact fucking opposite of capitalism. Am I missing something?
>>79382164
How is that being corporate bitch?
>>79386904
Nice meme
"Neo-nazis are evil! They're the ones who truly cause all the violen---
hrmmm... truly causes deep reflection."
>>79382164
You are the first we will put up against the wall when the revolution comes.
>>79390062
This image's great, but why the confederate flag ? They were based, and died like mens for independence.
>>79393010
Nice Centrist masturbation there.
How about not strawmanning our positions?
>>79382932
Really caused me to contemplate
>>79393526
Jesus fucking christ you antifaniggers are right up there with Islam.
What the fuck? You both need to be fucking gassed.
>>79393352
Then according to you, only form of real democracy is a direct one?
You are actually really saying that representative democracy doesn't follow the will of the people, or that Venezuela's representative democracy didn't follow the wishes of the voters? That's the single thing that would differentiate your image of a socialist state from Venezuela.
>>79382164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcJTfgIoCKA [Open]
>50 antifa vs 1 nazi
>antifa run like pussies
>>79394349
>implying they're not white muslims
but they're worst than them, they're the one encouraging them to come and fuck up the western world mate.
>>79382820
neo-nazis desiring genocide and ethnic cleansing represented as a mere "disagreement about politics"
if antifa had been around to stab hitler's stupid brownshirt thugs we wouldn't have had a world war II
>>79394768
They're both nothing but communists aka globalists either way, just one is with religion and the other is with militarized autism.
The only good commie is a fucking dead commie.
>>79385006
Kek, saved, this is the best one
>>79385275
>Super Hot Bunkers
>>79386269
>fight identity politics!
>feminism
>>79393352
If it wasn't for Lenin, the Communists would have ended up in a river like Rosa Luxembourg or lined up against a wall and shot like the Paris Communards.
There is something to say about the fact that revolutions that "succeed" are always the ones led by brutal iron fisted dictatorships and the ones that fail are democratic and libertarian.
>>79382164
i just realized
>>79395664
Isn't this like straight out of idiocracy? I think these kids are just LARPing their movie fanfics.
(and the geezers among them are all opportunistic deviant sexual predators)
>>79393697
racism is a superstition, actually a very tragic one, because if you understand biology you will see that rascism is acctually drestroying it while "not-being-a-racist" (the natural way of life for all animals and plants) is actually evolving races,
>>79396025
Globalism aka communism is what destroys diversity and culture.
Nationalism preserves it and promotes growth of culture.
>>79394647
>Then according to you, only form of real democracy is a direct one?
Indeed, I would say that "representative democracy is nothing but elective oligarchy. Have you ever voted for someone who did not do exactly what you wanted? Then you know that these representative are not true representatives.
>You are actually really saying that representative democracy doesn't follow the will of the people, or that Venezuela's representative democracy didn't follow the wishes of the voters? That's the single thing that would differentiate your image of a socialist state from Venezuela.
I'm not saying they didn't follow the will of the people, what I said that if that indeed was the will of the people, then the will of the people was not socialism, since they did not replace corporations with cooperatives (workplaces run by the workers themselves) but instead state-ownership.
And if state-ownership is "collective" ownership and thus socialism, then ownership by a board of directors is too, and thus capitalism is socialism.
>>79396123
>Internationalism = globalism
Oh boy.
>>79396025
>racism is a superstition
Nope, in life we want people who's genes, culture, and lifestyles more closely resemble ours to continue to pass down their genes.
I couldn't give a fuck whether some 65 IQ African is able to pass down his genes and by extension a bit of his culture.
Racism is natural, it just wasn't given a name until someone decided it was a bad thing.
>>79396406
>t. tavistock
I have a noose with your name on it.
>>79385926
Not available in my country ...oh noez
>>79394871
>implying WW2 was about Hitler and Jews
Really?
>>79396123
you are mistaking racism with nationalism, you are mistaking "to be decend" with communism
poor you
>>79394871
Wrong.
>>79396557
Well, if you think if the doctrines of internationalism and nationalism are incongruent, then you don't understand what either nationalism is or what internationalism is.
Indeed, Hitler and Mussolini both took part in internationalism, inter-national cooperation of the political movemements.
Internationalism is not globalism. Socialism is not globalist. Liberalism is.