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I'm going to post this every day, until you recognize our actual problem.

Pro tip: it is not the Left.
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>>79378270
Woah holy shit

We've actually been BTFO it appears
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>>79378270
How about learning to not conflate wealth and income first, faggot
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>>79378270

looks like austria
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Also note the correlation with the Great Depression and the financial crisis 2008.
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>>79378270
>I'm going to post this every day, until you recognize our actual problem.
>Pro tip: it is not the Left.

Actually it's BOTH the left and the 0.1%

The left is their tool anon.
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>>79379810
In some sense, "cultural" Leftists that wish for mass immigration, but not for true economic reform, may have become useful idiots.
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>>79380126
Look I can understand why a degree of free market activity is useful.

But it is not a thing we should fully implement.

Free markets require regulation in order to stop them from ruining lives.

This requires stepping back from the liberalization of markets.
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>>79379810
And so is the alt right, and pretty much any mainstream political ideology, both the left and the right are perfect polar opposites, which makes them easy to control, the goyim don't fucking know
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>>79380583
I agree.

I would say third position is ok, but that too is exploitable because it has no actual ideology to follow - it's pragmatic and flexibly changes to it's environment.

I can already see how that can be subverted.
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>>79380126
The Jews, yes, we know. The Left is a problem, however, because it is anti-reality. I would slit a Leftist's belly open as quickly as any kike's. If we were all Nationalists there wouldn't be a problem, but Leftism has become inextricably entwined in Globalist horseshit and that tangle of yarn is not straightening itself.
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>>79378270
?
25 + 15 = 40%

Where the fuck is the other 60% of the wealth?
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>>79380752
90% - 99.9%
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>>79378270
Yeah it's the kikes, we all know it. They made the left to distract us from their kikery.

Marxism/leftism/socialism is controlling the opposition. Nationalism/traditionalism/nation-states is the answer.
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>>79380722
>but Leftism has become inextricably entwined in Globalist horseshit and that tangle of yarn is not straightening itself.
I agree with liberty.

But I can't see how we can do this without first effectively self-regulating ourselves.

If we do modify our intelligence this may help us alot though.
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>>79380922
The Conservatives were the ones eagerly pushing forward economic globalization.
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>>79380493
>Free markets require regulation in order to stop them from ruining lives.
regulations ruin lives too.

i hate australia now.
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>>79381233
>regulations ruin lives too.
>i hate australia now.
The trick is not too much anon.

You need the catch the fools exploiting the system for personal gain (and the loss of many others).

Those that produce good companies are not a problem - though corporations as I see it have to change quickly.
They are so large they are a problem to themselves.
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>>79380493
>Free markets require regulation in order to stop them from ruining lives.
Objectively false. Almost every problem in our economy can be blamed on government intervention into the free market.
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>>79381397
... or the lack of it.
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>>79381457
How so? Government spending has only been increasing.
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>>79378270
>Pro tip: it is not the Left.
Problem is actually both """"left"""" and """"right"""" are ok with that.
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Wealth inequality is the most irrelevant bullshit statistic ever put forth.

Rich people having money isn't the reason you are poor, the economy isn't a zero sum game.

Seriously kill yourself, you're distracting from the REAL reason our generation is so fucked over.

Mainly central banking, massive levels of regulation, high taxes, government subsidizing college education etc.
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>>79381609
The Ruskie is correct. Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats.
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Daily reminder.
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>1970s
>Inequality at all time low
>Economy in the shitheap

Totally a coincidence :^)
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The Congo has the lease amount of income and wealth inequality.

Perhaps we should send these leftist shitstains there.
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>>79381623
>Mainly central banking, massive levels of regulation, government subsidizing college education etc.
>he thinks this is not instruments of rich people to extract wealth from economy into their pockets
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>>79378270
No that's wrong Hans. The left are also Jewish.
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>>79381810
>>he thinks this is not instruments of rich people to extract wealth from economy into their pockets
No.

I DO think that.

It's leftists that IGNORE that statement.
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>tfw OP completely BTFO
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>>79381383
too much of what?
regulation, or lives ruined?

cause if either ruin lives, then wtf is the point of regulating to not ruin lives one way, when it will just ruin lives another way?

I hate when people who sound smart make shitty arguments that self-contradict.
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>>79378270
Clearly the EU is the problem
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>>79381798
>leaf in charge of economy
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>>79378270
WW2 really was the best thing to happen to humanity. Maybe that's what America keeps trying to replicate with these little bullshit "wars"
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>>79382003
Blame Keynes. Now people think that war spending will somehow create prosperity.
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>>79378270
Duh, it's principle in this universe. Matter or energy can't be created or destroyed, only transformed. Means you can't really give something for "free" to someone, the money in some way or another came from some place.
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>>79381872
No you do trying to indulge rich. Yes inequality itself is not a problem is symptom of another problem. Problem of group of people receiving undeserved income through market manipulations and useful idiots defending this practice.
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>>79381977
>proving the united states is basically average in terms of wealth inequality and the fact that wealth inequality is an IRRELEVANT BULLSHIT STATISTIC

Why do you care about irrelevant bullshit statistics ruskie?
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>>79378270

> I'm going to post this every day

What the fuck is "this?" That graph is unreadable. You better edit it so that someon4e can look at it and it makes sense.

> hurrrrdurrrrp it have an red line an another blooo line
> they are become touched liek UR faggotz
> B T F O !
> T
> F
> O
> !
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>>79378270
notice the year 1986. why is 1986 significant?
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>>79378270
where is the last 0,9%?
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>>79378813
I think what your graph shows is that the cold war increased the wealth of the bottom 90%
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>>79378379
and if you cut off the end Czech republic backwards
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>>79378270
>implying loser taxes don't fix LITERALLY everything
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>>79378270
>Pro tip: it is not the Left.
Then why do all the 1 percenters support Clinton and the Dems?
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>>79378270
They fuck with values and minds, to get people all in for degeneracy, making bad choice in life, ending up poor wage slaves in debts or living on welfare.
Where do you think all these women studies graduates will end up? in the top 0.1%?
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>>79382197
you mean 9.9%
those are the ayyliums
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>>79382347
the reality is it's the flooding of the usa with worthless spics. of course income equality is going to go up when we're being invaded by third world dirt farmers
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>>79382003
>WW2 really was the best thing to happen to humanity
Doubt that.
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>>79382161
>average for current year
>also moving goalposts
Why do you defended you kike masters so hard?
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>>79382446
i obviously meant income inequality
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>>79382463
Almost everything that we enjoy was developed because of ww2 and the Cold War.
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>>79382276
Not the Cold War itself, the policies made during the Cold War.

It is true that the fear of Communism gaining supporters may have been a factor that pushed politicains towards fair economic policies.
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>>79378270
>1920's saw mass immigration
>since the later 1970's we've been bringing in a million plus legal immigrants a year
Hmmm, can't imagine what's going on here, hm?
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>>79382446
Right, I only addressed the inner effect of leftists.
Forgot about bringing poor cheap workforce in and rising criminality.
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>>79381933
too much regulation
too little regulation

It's not simply a spectrum either, it's the specific acts that need to be scrutinised - which ones are bad, which are good.

Then you introduce technological and structural developments on top of the regulation.

Things like shell corps and speculative bubbles will need clamping.
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>>79382685
Yeah, keep blaming the wealth inequality on those that have even less than you.
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>>79382156
>Yes inequality itself is not a problem is symptom of another problem.
I agree.

>Problem of group of people receiving undeserved income through market manipulations and useful idiots defending this practice.
I agree.

>>79382477
You're the one who supports central banks.
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>>79378813
>financial crisis 2008.

You mean the one caused by bill clinton?
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>>79380941
alot is not a word.

Spell it with me now: a lot.

This is a problem. Most "pol" tier people are retards like yourself.
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>>79382867
Bush, amongst many others.
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>>79382785
>this incredibly misinformed tumblr image

It's like you had to physically remove your brain to make this image.

Neoliberalism created Brexit?

REALLY?

Are all germans this stupid?
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>>79382946
Bills financial deregulation, along with the programs started by the HUD and Gses under his is what directly led to the financial crisis and the housing bubble popping

so he was by far the biggest player

especially when you take into account that his renegotiations with boeing locheed tripled deployment costs right before iraq
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>>79382785
I've never seen someone actually give an explanation as to what neoliberalism is. Just shitty memes about how it's the worst thing ever.
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The left supports the free mobility of labor, too.
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>>79383046
>Neoliberalism created Brexit?
Yes.
>>79383127
I do agree that it is a catch-it-all concept that became a buzzword afterwards.
Essentially, it is market liberalism, deregulation and a laissez faire stance on most issues, along with the (false) belief that everything is okay as it is, and if it is not, it is due to too much regulation.
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>>79382785
>Yeah, keep blaming the wealth inequality on those that have even less than you.
I'm not blaming it on them, I'm blaming it on the wealthy billionares who manipulate our government and have opened up our borders for decades in order to let in tens of millions of immigrants who inflate the labor market, drive down wages, over use the social systems in place meant for OUR poor, and destroy social cohesion.
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>>79383109
>Bills financial deregulation
WHY ARE AMERICANS THIS STUPID?

Canada didn't have a law like glass steagal and yet we faired BETTER than you fucking retards.

Also Bill Clinton actually INCREASED regulation.

Fucking kill yourself you bluepilled cuck.
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>>79382115

>Good ol' Tax&Spend.

Taking money out of the economy and giving it to people to put back into the economy.

Somehow this Hokey Pokey dance promotes 'growth'.

DAILY REMINDER: If you are employed by the government, you are worse for the economy than a welfare nigger.
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>>79383311
That is a view I share.
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>>79383287
>Yes.
top lel are you retarded

Explain your reasoning, you're the ONLY person on the board that believes this.

>Essentially, it is market liberalism, deregulation and a laissez faire stance on most issues
Then why did most people you call "neoliberals" not support this.
Reagan supported central banking and he INCREASED spending and INCREASED regulations.

>belief that everything is okay as it is, and if it is not, it is due to too much regulation.
Except this is actual real and can be backed up by evidence and leftist fairy tales can not.
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>>79383514
Yet you clearly want to embrace the millions of the foreign horde? You're clearly just a regular ol' socialist/communist/leftist who only pretends to care about the working class.
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>>79383046
>Neoliberalism created Brexit?
>>79383287
>Yes.

Presumably because the UK doesn't want to be a part of the EUSSR. They saw what happened the first time.
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>>79380126

Name three relevant socialists/communists today that subscribe exclusively to orthodox marxism/class reductionism. The left today is mainly the globalist SJW shits.
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>>79382907
wew

I did highest grade english at high school.

And a law degree.

I think I've just seen it too much.
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>>79383639
>if only the Venezuelan government believed in marxist-leninism their people would have far greater living standards today

lmao you people are religious fundamentalists
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>>79381623
>Wealth inequality is the most irrelevant bullshit statistic ever put forth.
Mr Rothschild is a huge issue anon.

And Soros.

And Rockefeller.
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>>79383639

Fun fact: The terms Left wing/Right wing come from the French Revolution.

Those that supported the Authoritarian King sat to the right of the speaker and those that supported the Revolution (liberty) sat on the left. It literally had nothing to do with economics.

By definition, US constitutional libertarians/conservatives are Left and SJWs who want the government to ban free speech, grab guns, and decrease democracy are advocating for Authoritarianism - which places them on the right.
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>>79383427
>not understanding the financial modernization act that replaced it


>bill increased regulation

Not on inter trading and consolidation of debts between banks that led to the housing crises and the bank bailouts you dumb fuck

>hurr its werks in canada

not relevant
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>>79381623

>the economy isn't a zero sum game.

literal retardation.
do you even understand how our economic system works ?
do you even interest ?
do you even fiat money ?
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>>79383639
Sanders, Corbyn, Iglesias.
>>79383635
The EU is the exact opposite of a Communist union, it is a deregulated labor and capital market that put additional pressure on the UK working class.
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>>79382907
Oh fuck off back to pleddit.
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>>79378270
What's wrong with a meritocracy, faggot?
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>>79383904
>financial modernization act
Another example of worthless "regulation" which would have stopped nothing.

>not relevant
>ECONOMICS MAGICALLY WORKS DIFFERENT IN OTHER COUNTRIES

lmao
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>>79384000
>The EU is the exact opposite of a Communist union

That was the initial selling point and why the UK initially joined. But that's not how it turned out. The EUSSR is hoping that stealth, rather than revolution will tooootally make it work this time.
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>>79383984
>posts a picture of a socialist getting BTFO
>whines that I'm an evil right wing capitalist

Do YOU even into economics?
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>>79384000
>it is a deregulated labor and capital market
It's the most regulated labour market on planet earth.

Look at Spain.

Why are you people so fucking brainwashed?
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>>79378270
>falling for the left-right-paradigme
>wealth inequality is caused by a political spectrum, not a financial ponzy scheme that has always been out of reach of any political system

hats off to the most blue-pilled poster of the day.
please die in a fire, OP. your opinion is invalid and you know nothing.
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>>79384082
I agree with him, but I think learning to spell before we augment the genes responsible for intelligence is reasonable.
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>>79381693
if inflation helps the 1%, why didn't the establishment, which supposedly serves bankers and elites, rally around bernie?
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>>79384223
What about Spain? It suffers from grotesque unemployment, caused by international competition and austerity.
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>>79378270
BASED FDR

5TH TERM WHEN?
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>>79384131
The initial selling point of the EU - besides securing peace - was an open market.

You know who was against it? Corbyn. Why?
Because it is a deregulated common market.

You know who campaigned for joining? Thatcher. Why?
Because it is a deregulated common market.
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>>79384098
>all countries economies, workforces, and banking systems are exactly the same

wew lad thats dumb

>worthless "regulation"
It was deregulation you dipshit. That was the problem

Banks consolidated and traded bulk mortgages that tons of people defaulted on, because banks were giving loans to anyone who wanted to buy a house regardless of income
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>>79384326
Because inflation wasn't bernie's major selling point.
Because Bernie would take away a little bit of their power, while giving them much more power in other ways. They will always support candidates that want central banks and inflation.

The Elites want full power.

Trump is the only one that will take away all of their power.

>>79384336
>What about Spain?
One of the most regulated labour markets in the world.

>It suffers from grotesque unemployment
Of COURSE it does.
It's labour market basically destroys any chance of them getting a job.

>caused by international competition and austerity.
LMAO

Why does the fact there WAS NO FUCKING AUSTERITY make you so mad.
PIc fucking related you gigantic retard.
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>>79384453
Wow, so principled.
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>>79384486
>>all countries economies, workforces, and banking systems are exactly the same
I never said that.
I implied that the laws of economics do not change in different countries. The political laws of these countries change.

>It was deregulation you dipshit.
Sorry, I'm drunk.
I mean't to say
>this deregulation did not contribute to the housing bubble

>because banks were giving loans to anyone who wanted to buy a house regardless of income
LMAO maybe because YOU gigantic retards and the federal reserve gave these banks billions of fucking dollars

holy fuck are you stupid
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>>79384000

Sanders got BTFO by a liberal globalist.

>>79383891

Good point. So leftypol isn't actually leftypol, but commie/anarchist-politically incorrect?
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>>79384590
Nah, m8. Most contracts in Spain are short-term employment, offering almost no rights for employees. Countless others work without the government knowing, paying no taxes. It is as deregulated as it gets.
Unemployment benefits are almost nonexistant.
>WAS NO FUCKING AUSTERITY
lel
But then,
>Sorry, I'm drunk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis#Less_austerity.2C_more_investment
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>>79383630
>no response to this
Hmmm
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>>79378270
>free market economy is a zero sum game
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>>79383630
>Yet you clearly want to embrace the millions of the foreign horde?
Nah.

I wish for them to live and prosper in their own countries. That is impossible, partially due to unfavorable trade agreements.
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>>79385085
It has become one, since global growth slowed down.
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>>79384936
>Most contracts in Spain are short-term employment,
Of course they are.
They don't want long term employment, then they'd have to actually obey the government's retarded labor laws.

>offering almost no rights for employees
GOOD
Fuck workers "rights".

>Countless others work without the government knowing, paying no taxes.
Good, I hope they continue to do this and this form of illegal work becomes dominant.

>It is as deregulated as it gets.
LMAO it's so REGULATED that the only way to fucking make a god damn living is to break the fucking law and go outside of the government's regulated system.

How stupid are you people?

>Unemployment benefits are almost nonexistant.
Not true, and they don't exist partially because their retarded government spent way too much money and cannot afford to pay for them unlike more capitalist countries like mine.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_debt_crisis#Less_austerity.2C_more_investment

>US economist and Nobel laureate Paul Krugman argues
Wow, you take your political views from someone who in the 1990s thought the internet was a fad and would never take off, and who also CHEERED ON the housing bubble when free market economoists were warning against it

Also I just showed you REAL economic data showing there was NO austerity, you then refuse to refute it and then post a shitty wikipedia article which proves nothing.

You're so fucking brainwashed holy shit
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>>79385268
It has become one because of keynesian economics and central banking.

You brainwashed piece of shit, you people need to fucking die.
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>>79385315
>GOOD
>Fuck workers "rights".
k
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>>79385085
Are you implying that it is not true?

The most basic problem of economics is SCARCITY . Capitalism is a system for distributing our LIMITED resources.

There are a fixed amount of tomatoes in this world at any given time. Every tomato you throw at a Palestinian is a tomato I cannot send in a care package to Britain.

Unless you want to say that homeless people simply subjectively value food less, and are unwilling to pay the price for it because muh utility maximization.
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>>79385425
Well enjoy your no argument then.

Pretty funny when workers who live in countries with fewer "workers rights" have better living conditions.

Why don't you move to Venezuela, pretty sure they have great socialist workers rights there.

You're such a religious fundamentalist you REFUSE to question your own belief system for even one moment.

Enjoy your cult, seriously.
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>>79385506
>The most basic problem of economics is SCARCITY
Even so, the economy is not a zero sum game.

>Capitalism is a system for distributing our LIMITED resources.
and growing the pool of resources that people actually need and want.

>There are a fixed amount of tomatoes in this world at any given time.
Yes and that pool of tomatoes grows as the economy expands and everyone is better off.
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>>79385567
Pretty funny when workers who live in countries with fewer "workers rights" have better living conditions.

I dont know where your talking about. In america different states have different levels of worker protections. Texas has shit like forced overtime. Washington does not. Workers in Texas do not have better living conditions than those in states with better worker protections.
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>>79378270
No shit sherlock. Congrats for getting your head out of your ass
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>>79385670
>and growing the pool of resources
>pool of tomatoes grows as the economy expands

Just because a FUTURE increase in resources is POSSIBLE doesnt mean it will happen, or that choices made now in the PRESENT are not still zero sum.

What happens to when you have sacrificed everything at the altar of growth and there is nothing left to deregulate? When we reach absolute equilibrium and growth is large and constant? Is it not a zero sum game then? Have we not a set amount of current and future resources which must be distributed towards one party at the expense of another?
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>>79378270
Kinda looks like west virginia, but backwards
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>>79378270

Whoa, I guess I have no choice but to #ShillTheHill now
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>>79386363
That has been Sanders main program point.
Hillary will continue this course.
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>>79386422
Hillary is for a more progressive income tax, closing loopholes, capping tax deductions etc. She is bot going nearly as far as Bernie, but still income inequality is a cornerstone of her policy
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>>79384000
>Sanders
wew
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>>79385792
>I dont know where your talking about.
Oh, you're retarded then.

>In america different states have different levels of worker protections.
America is a very poor example because the federal government controls most of this shit.

If you look at the world, YES the countries with more regulated labour markets and "workers rights" have higher poverty rates.

>>79386267
>Just because a FUTURE increase in resources is POSSIBLE
Not even "possible", it happens ALL of the time.

>doesnt mean it will happen
But it's fucking COMMON and happens all of the time.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>or that choices made now in the PRESENT are not still zero sum.
That doesn't matter.
They're NOT zero sum over time.
Who gives a shit about the exact present.
Your opportunities increase the next fucking day.

>What happens to when you have sacrificed everything at the altar of growth and there is nothing left to deregulate?
I don't know we haven't deregulated in a long long time.
Why are leftists so economically retarded?

>altar of growth
Keep claiming freedom and technology is a religious, it's quite amusing coming from a religious fundamentalist such as yourself.
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>>79378270
I don't see the problem.
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>>79387060
KEK
>more progressive income tax, closing loopholes, capping tax deductions

Explain how that is any different from the republicans platform?

Everyone wants to close the loopholes. Hillary and the republicans want to make the tax system more progressive by lowering taxes on the bottom 50% so they dont pay any federal taxes. And capping tax deductions is literally just closing loopholes restated.

Income inequality is below gender equality in her Policy goals. Though honestly I doubt she actually gives a fuck about that either.
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>>79387060
hahahaha
HAHAHAHAH
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>>79378270
>kiss soros' sore ass
>complain about the 0,1%
choose one.
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>>79387455
The same tendency is already coming to Germany.
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>>79378270
>I'm going to post this every day, until you recognize our actual problem.

It will never happen, we can tell you who the (((0.01))) percent is, but you won't listen
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>Imports millions of cheap labourers who will work for less.
>Imposes 'minimum pay' which makes minimum pay the standard pay for shit jobs.
>Gives low paid workers government benefits instead of higher wages.

Yeah it's not the left at all. The left just want you to be happy, the right want you to succeed.
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>>79378270
It is the American Left, anon. Liberals and conservatives alike have destroyed the country

Go to /leftypol/ and get red-pilled
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>>79378270
Pro tip: It's not the left, nor is it wealth inequality, it's climate change, you stupid bastard.
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>>79388188
The minimum wage workers out together account to, maybe, 0.01% of the overall capital flow in the World.
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