Are there ANY political drama TV shows that aren't anti-right leftist propaganda like these two?
Dallas
>>79360484
Murdoch Murdoch
More of a comedrama, but alpha house can be alright at times
Boss was good, not sure if was leftist or the contrary, but it was good.
>>79360484
I would like to see a political drama with conservatives as the stars of the show, not /pol/ bullshit, but proper and mainstream conservatives. The West Wing had an interesting habit of occasionally throwing conservative opinions a bone and working it into the story.
Isn't Frank Underwood a Democrat
>>79360484
Brother, dear god. You need to do some searching.
>The Thick of It / Into the Loop
BBC political drama, 10/10.
This show follows some of the more sensitive matters of the PM's front office and media. It's a great show involving Brit politics that has zero policy positions that skew left or right.
Just as the real game of politics is shown quite vividly through House of Cards (most politicians don't actually care about their policies and positions, it's simply a way to garner power and their choice of party usually depends on what law firm they article at), The Thick of it shows the nitty-gritty daily grind of working within a senior office.
It also stars Peter Calpaldi, who is funny as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUky4_A7Zw4
>>79361064
Hes also a bisexual cuck which is accurate of most democucks
>>79360714
This.
>>79360484
That one free trade episode of West Wing was fucking god-tier.
>President literally says "fuck it" and reneges on a promise that he made to labor unions just to appease his corporate masters
>this is shown as being neither a good or a bad thing
All around best episode of the entire series, at least as far as accuracy is concerned.
>>79360484
The Thick of It
Extremely dry British wit that doesn't really delve too far to the left or right.
>>79361266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALNjevGdB5g
This.
>>79360484
>Frank Underwood is literally a bisexual cuck
>Painted as evil, but at the same time he's the main character
Not sure if this is propaganda or not
>>79361266
I'm glad someone agrees
>>79361094
>>79361462
Frank Underwood is a Democratic politician. I thought it was pretty red pilled to portray him as a psychopathic homo.
>>79361604
He's also relatively moderate or even conservative in some respects.
>>79360484
You could watch the original House of Cards. The Thick of It is good too desu
>>79360484
wait i thought house of cards was well known to be based off the clintons, and not even particularly liberally as far as power focused, nietzchean will to power, heartless characters go
sure they are the mains....
but how is this pushing leftist propaganda, when it exposes the facade of people who play the bleeding heart?
i dig it, so i may be biased
>>79361604
right?
it pulls back the veil.
to judge it based on the character's political leanings is fundamentally missing out on the main critique of politics that the show offers, that the public policy is a facade for personal masturbation.
da fuq is this thread about, the show is as redpilled as Richard III
>>79360484
The newsroom was kinda right. Ish. Also sorkin
>>79360484
I don't see how House of Cards is leftist propaganda. Leftists are pro-government and that show paints just about everyone in politics as a narcissistic sociopath, particularly the Democratic characters. Also shows how they pander to minorities and pretend to care about the poor just to get power in the most manipulative way possible.
>>79360484
How the fuck is House of Cards leftist propaganda? It's literally about how corrupt the Democratic party and politics in general is.
>>79360714
Kill yourself. That autistic piece of trash is the reason I can't call myself alt-right
>>79362140
>some respects.
In what respects? His job bill was to turn the US into a socialist country.
>>79360714
the anti jew shit is too much, even though the guy is clearly smart
>>79362920
Not to mention it exposes how much influence Israel holds over America.
>>79362920
The democratic president is a sociopath and while his VP is a good guy, he's a bumbling and oblivious idiot. The woman who was Frank's biggest rival on the left eventually started to succumb to underhanded tactics. So I also don't see how House of Cards paints the left in a good way.
>>79360484
If you don't despise anime, I'd recommend Legend of the Galactic heroes.
I've been watching it recently after learning about it's existence from /pol/tards. You've got your intergalactic battle scenes (that are heavily inspired by "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu), and then you have your political scenes where everybody fuck things up. This anime discusses about the philosophies of wars and politics, so if that's your jam, you should watch it. And yeah, it's redpilled, Kaiser Rudolf has already killed every degenerate of the galaxy, Obernstein did nothing wrong.
>>79363206
>>79363115
>>79362920
>>79362905
OP IS PROVEN TO BE FAGGOT WHO CANNOT INTERPRET ART
>>79362606
>nietzchean
It's more Machiavellian (ends justify the means) covering pragmatic compromise, Nietzsche was about promoting self-overcoming and life affirmation at the individual level and not socio-political.
Try Blue Bloods, Last Resort, The Unit, 24.
>>79360484
This is britty good
>>79363306
I'm so glad I found this show. It drags on in the end, but it's endlessly quotable.
>>79360484
The first two seasons of HoC were ok but then after that the writing became really liberal and they did several character assassinations in the name of being PC.
>>79362883
Newsroom is fucking garbage. All the characters are written in the same voice, same vocabulary, same inflections, same cadence. It is just shit.
>>79363678
I love it.
>>79363528
appreciated critique, anon
blessings of kek
forgive me nietzche, for putting your name alongside two disgusting characters
>>79362905
>I don't see how House of Cards is leftist propaganda
they put fucking pussy riot in an episode to spite their russian president notvladimir notputin
>>79364011
Is that not exactly something you could see the Democrats doing if they were slightly more aggressive like they are in the show?
>>79364011
sure one specific instance
but any of the other posts about how they decry the protagonists as socipathic killers with machiavellen tactics, covered up by a guise of bleeding heart leftism
thats repilled as fuq
also, notvladmir notputin is portrayed as a pretty badass dude who's politically a mastermind, though obviously corrupt
>are u implying that putin is not a demagogue?
i respect the guy, respect his nationalism, but cmon, he's an egotistical psychopath, too.
dont worship idols, lad
>>79360484
At this point I'm convinced house of cards is an allegory for the clintons
>>79363306
Looks like I gotta watch it
>>79363534
Wow, Lindsey Graham really got ripped after losing to the Donald.
>>79364474
im fairly sure david fincher says this himself
and billy boy clinton says the show is either 90% or 99% accurate, i forget the exact percentage
though his estimation confirms 100% accuracy
same as a guy saying his dick is 8 inches when its only 6, Billy is just trying to save face and not outright admit to having blood on his hands and cum on his coat
>>79361163
*a bisexual cuck who worked his way up to president
>>79364505
Before you do, there's a pilot movie called "My Conquest is the Sea of Star". You might want to watch it before the TV show, as it introduces most of the characters and their motives, but most people skip it and are fine.
Generation Kill
True Detective
>>79360484
Thete's a lot of good stuff from ages and ages ago. There's an awesome Shaw play made into a movie with Kirk Douglas called The Devil's Disciple. There's a lot of Walt Disney Presents stuff from the 60s about the Revolution.
More recently, not a TV show but the Clint Eastwood movie White Hunter, Black Heart is a kick-ass, must-see film, great as a film but also as it's following an SJW with his head up his ass as he virtue signals destructively only to be humbled by an awful comeuppance.
>>79360484
"Alpha House" on amazon prime.
Full on republican and funny as fuck
>>79364658
I don't see how the show is blue pilled then. Unlike game of thrones that pushes an agenda just because, cards isn't really pushing anything it's just showing how terrible the Clintons are
>>79364505
Hope this can help you, friend. (Im going to watch it too)
>>79365181
Thanks.
>>79360484
That's on you for paying for and watching this (((Hollywood))) propaganda trash
You know how many great books you could be reading?
If that's too high brow just spend the time literally jacking off instead. More fun and less stupidfying.
>>79365088
Alpha house is pretty left, honestly. They make fun of the fake patriotism on the right, the religious extremism of the right, and even some famous right donors like the Kochs (but not some of the big ones on the left like Soros).
That said, shit's funny, familia
>>79365656
True
>>79362783
It's not, though, because the narrative constantly takes his side, and creates artificial suspense and sympathy when there is a threat to him or tragedy involving him. Foreign policy decisions are shown to gnaw at his conscience. His enemies are very often portrayed as more depraved and despicable than he is.
I suspect the original idea was to give us the most corrupt politician possible, and to sneak it past audiences bored with ham-handed sermons by having him be a Democrat. But then as time went on they warmed to him and recognized that they had created an allegory for the Clintons. So they made him a noble president, forced a situation in which the Republicans have made him a victim, and then awkwardly shunted him into the role of a Bush caricature warmonger.
>>79362883
Newsroom was where Sorkin went to shit, it's a show where he writes strawmen to win arguments with himself against.
West Wing leaned left, but had some legit nuggets where they get BTFO by Republicans.
>>79366392 (cont'd)
I'll add that this show has a LOT of writers. This was just a feeling I had, but when I started looking at other shows to compare I got second thoughts. For example, Lost had about 50% more writers than HoC over the course of 6 seasons, which seemed about even; while 24 had a little under twice as many over the course of 8 seasons.
Then I remembered that a season of HoC is just over half as many episodes as these other shows.
19 writers for 52 episodes might not be a nightmare situation, but it lines up with the impression I had that the series was scatterbrained; that there was disagreement over who the Underwoods were, what they meant, and whether they were good or evil; and that in some cases the writers just plain forgot what had happened earlier in the series.
>>79366791
I mostly just love(d) Sam watterston.
>>79364720
>democrat
>work
wew lad
>>79367519
Peace be upon him.
And why the fuck can't we have Time Lab 2000? It's not just canceled and underappreciated, it has vanished from television history.
>>79360484
Wolf Hall
Gundam Wing
the west wing is not that left, there's certainly no sjw nonsense in it. they give air to all sides, for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITDWIVMl_u8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4vU1ygmq-s
I'm full /pol/ and it's one of my favorite shows
>>79363306
Was going to post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8rkcJ5sYDI
Three Kingdoms 2010
Its in chinese but its a pretty good show similar to game of thrones but based on historical events
>>79360484
is house of cards really leftist bullshit? West Wing was blatant liberal pandering garbage, I was hoping House of Cards would be decent, but I don't want to watch shows to tell me that people with certain conservative values are eeeeeeeevillllllllllllllll every fucking 3 seconds
West Wing is pretty blue pilled, but house of cards is red pilled as fuck.
It's a giant criticism of career politicians on both sides of the fence, especially since Frank is a democrat.
>>79360484
Superior version ere
>>79370373
fuck off, no its not. You're not edgy and cool because you like its shitty predecessor.
>>79362975
Funding private businesses and firms to hire workers on their own terms is legitimately the opposite of socialist thought.
>>79370112
Frank Underwood (Kevin Spacey) spends just as much time if not more siding with Republicans over his own party. The only group that gets shit on is the Tea Party republicans because they won't pass any legislation, which is basically real life.
>>79371095
It just is better, the weird tension between the journalist and old guy is more psychologically twisted and drawn out further.
>>79360484
The UK "thick of it" play fun at the Labour party more than the conservatives. But i thought HOC was supposed to be about a DEM right?
THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US
>>79362883
IM TOTALILY A REPUBLICAN YOU GUYS
PLZ BELIEVE ME
IGNORE MY LEFTIST BULLSHIT
TOTES A REPUB LULZ
>>79367472
Its noticeable how American shows have a LOT more writers than British shows. Usually they are a couple of mates here.
>>79363774
Every Sorkin production is just him taking to himself using various characters.
