how does anyone believe this crap? why do you just follow the bible, written by corrupt people that used it as a way to literally set the growth of humanity back by...a millennium? furturama quite possibly be what life would be like today if not for the catholic church killing everyone that disobeyed "god" or debunked some "truth" written in the bible.
and how can there be new testaments? if the bible was written by god, or the scribe of god, how the fuck can there be new editions? i mean, seriously? people make fun of the mormon religion and yet discount edits made to the bible? god chooses one person that is chosen by OTHER PEOPLE to be the one true voice of god? how can this even make sense?
on a side note: ever heard of the crusades? you really want to go to a place where a god condones that? or condones outright murder? i mean, that's some fucked up shit.
i can't think of a more accurate depiction of what heaven and hell could be like than how it is depicted in south park with respect to satan being all chill.
i could go on and on about the flaws and shit about religion and how much it's fucked over humanity, but i won't. i'll just say that you can say hi to god for me because i'll probably go to hell. either that or i'll go to heaven because he/she knows i'm right.
what was i talking about again? oh yeah, thanks for setting humanity back by 1000 years by abusing the bible to control the wealth and free will of humans to the extent that we made no progress as a species during the reign of the catholic church.
sorry, not sorry.
lol, tl;dr
>>79359399
http://www.strawpoll.me/10635333
>>79359399
so you were molested as a child by a family member and you don't know who to blame.
>>79359589
This.
One post by this ID.
>>79359399
>>79359399
>Religion
>Imaginary friends
Why do atheists project their wish to be children onto others?
>>79359671
>>79359399
Cause it's true and you know it
>>79359926
theres still basically one post in this thread, no one else has actually said anything
/pol/ is even dumber than i was told
Jesus was a communist. His ideology is responsible for the fall of Rome.
Muhammed was a slaver, and his Mohammetans worship a Slave God.
Judea is the Synagogue of Satan. Jesus of Nazareth predicted them. It was one of the things he was right about.
Every God is real. Not just in our minds, but variably on the different planes of existence. The Gods of the Ancients of Egypt, India, Arya, and The Orient are the ones which will drive us forward into evolution.
Gas yourself for posting a slide thread, OP.
>>79360494
Logic is not material, but conceptual
Conceptual means of the mind
But the laws of Logic are also universal and absolute, meaning it's the same for everyone,
There for the laws of logic are from a universal mind, this universal mind is transcendent to the mind of God
>the growth of humanity
AUTISMAUTISM
>>79360735
By definition no
Communist =Marxism= mandatory Atheism
Christianity= a belief in God
Atheism is non belief in God
Therefore Jesus could not have been a communist
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>>79359399
>how does anyone believe this crap?
Had an argument with your mom about not going to church again?
>>79360944
>Therefore Jesus could not have been a communist
Wew lad
>>79360959
The fuck is this?
>>79361060
Which premise do you have a problem with?
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>>79359399
have you read the god delusion op?
and read god is not great too.
If I have to choose ill take being a Christain over a Muslim, just becuase we have a dwindling church in the UK DOES NOT FUCKING THERE IS ROOM FOR ISLAM!
>>79360944
Obviously, Christ's communism could not have been Marxism. He predated Marx by nearly two millennia. Jesus chose the company of lepers and whores and said they were going to inherit the earth because of their (((meekness))).
1/10 apply yourself
>>79359399
Didn't you watch that Futurama episode?
It's the best episode
https://youtu.be/_nwvCGLmFEA
>>79361299
Also blue collar fishermen who concealed carried swords.
Tax collectors
The lepers were healed
And the whores repented
But an atheist like you, it's almost useless to share anything that is the word of God until you repent
>It's another "Christianity brought the world into the mindless Dark Ages" chapter
>>79361614
Is that the I don't want to live on this planet anymore?>>
>>79361734
Please refer to my first post. I am not an atheist. I am a pagan pantheist.
You worship the Jew that brought down the Roman Empire, the greatest civilization to ever exist. The pope kisses Muslims on their feet and calls for a global apology to degenerate sexuality. The turn the other cheek mentality has cucked the West into oblivion. And you tell me I need to repent? Repentance is nothing. Our world needs metanoia.
>>79362168
A filthy pagan? Good lord, man, we'd rather have the atheist.
>>79362168
I agree, I would love too see everyone change mind and put their trust in Christ
>>79359399
>Starting your spiel by point-blank lying about history
Getting pretty tired of people who claim to represent science and truth lying about basic facts. We get it, you don't like religion, but don't fabricate history retard.
>>79362303
>>79362416
You likely don't realize this, but you worship an ancient Sumerian god whose time is coming to an end. It is, in fact, the same god of the Jews and the Muslims.
The rest of us who actually practice the traditions of our ancestors will not miss him one bit.
>>79361802
no I think that's a different ep
>>79362577
>practice the traditions of our ancestors
>brethren! gather as we perform the ancient ceremony of giving our women to the powerful negro!
>>79362303
The Old Gods of the Finns are pretty deck.
I'll take a follower of Ukko, Akka, and Pekko (the God of Barley) over an atheist.
>>79359399
Even the robots in Futurama are christian.
U failed
>>79362168
The Romans had it coming, their degenerate behavior predates Roman Christianity,
I'm not catholic so the pope has no meaning to me, it is true as a Christian, I am to love people, but there is also a sense of justice that is also ordained by God on earth, the Government has the right to punish wickedness Romans 13, a husband has the duty to love and protect his wife and family Ephesians 5.
As a Christian, I hate Islam
>>79362797
sauce your bullshit
>>79362577
Yeah that's the 19th century free thinker garbage, most of that stuff has been debunked
>>79362933
>I have no idea what a joke is
You know what I don't like about Christianity? All the blame that Satan gets.
Seems like Christians blame him for everything. Can't a human do bad acts on their own accord? Can't the blame be solely on them? Why does Satan get all the blame? Is that even in the Bible anywhere?
>>79363230
Humans via original sin, are naturally rebellious to God, Satan was the original deceiver in the Garden, and there is some foul play, but ultimately humans are held accountable for their own actions,
>>79363456
>>79363230
>omniscient being creates magical garden with his favorite pets and allows his second favorite pet to get in and fuck with them
>somehow it's not the owner's fault
>>79363098
>pretending to be retarded
:^)
>>79363061
The truth has never been popular, but people have still attempted to debunk it. They haven't. Don't be so gullible. Someone could say Shoah denial has been "debunked" after reading a Wikipedia article. Much more comprehensive models of the history of deities have been developed since the 19th century.
>>79362914
Degenerate behavior exists in any society which does not have a totalitarian government. Rome's age of decadence did not begin until well after the time of Jesus, and it was perpetuated by his own Jewish people. It wasn't until Constantine that Rome became truly weak, but even prior to that, Jesus paved the way to the supreme degeneracy of Elagabalus and his ilk.
This trend continues to this day, in case you hadn't noticed.
>>79363924
Don't you mistake Lucifer with Satan? Nobody like Satan except Jews.
>>79363924
Unless it was a part of his plan to demonstrate his character to his creation.
>>79363958
Yeah you might need to study history again, Nero and Caligula both existed prior to Constantine, and during their reign, Rome went through extreme degeneracy and debt, not to mention Nero burning Rome and blaming it on the Christians
>>79361195
Ahh, shit, he's hacking you, dude
>>79364500
I've devoted much time to studying Rome, pham. This surge in degeneracy and usury occurred directly in the wake of none other than Jesus of Nazareth. Nero did indeed set fire to early Christendom, and it was indeed the fault of Christians.
Compare the Rome of Marcus Aurelius, who stepped up Christian persecution big time, to the Rome of Elagabalus, who did absolutely nothing about Christianity. It's night and day.
Then take a look at The Holy Roman Empire: Charlemagne onward. It wasn't until well after its fall, into the Enlightenment, that Western Civilization even grasped a glimmer of the former glory of Rome.
The Torah is the book, full of rules to live by, given by Yahweh to Moses
Yahweh is God, and its synonymous with 'the jewish people'
in other words, the Torah was a set of rules, made by the jewish people, for themselves
its a CONSTITUTION, just like the american one, where the jewish people decided on their collective interests and goals, and made those rules to achieve those interests
switching from polytheism to monotheism was a big step for human civilization
later on this set of rules in the holy books, was seen as a law for all the peoples of the world and not just the jews and it started spreading
the things that the holy books contain, are following the natural law, the natural order of things which we as humans can not change but only submit to it for securing our own survival
what's problem with religion today, aside from those individuals who molest little boys, is the problem we are facing with everything else
TOO MUCH GOVERMENT
too much goverment everywhere
religion, enterntainment, guns.. you name it
they just cant leave an area alone, they must influence everything
the Pope welcoming refugees, songs about refugees, all of that is paid for by the goverment to push their agenda
false conservativism in USA, when they are about to invade a country, so that the morale is up and everybody thinks they are fighting for the good
that's cancer, and its religion misused by the goverment, the state.
religion itself is not the enemy, everything makes sense in there if interpreted correctly, goverment should get the fuck out of things
Ron Paul 2017
>>79365778
W E W L A D
R A R E F L A G
>The Talmud is natural law
no
http://www.jcpa.org/jpsr/gersten-s99.htm
>>79366089
im dont have time to read all of that
sum it up
also my flag isnt rare you newfag faggot
>>79359399
Religion is at worst a set of socially cohesive moral principles and at best a source of motivation. Whether or not it's real or not is irrelevant to its utility as a binding factor for a nation or group of nations.
>>79366388
It's a little rare, mang. Plus I'm on notcuckchan most of the time, where we don't flagpost.
Here are some choice quotes:
>So what does the return of paganism mean for Judaism? It forces us to focus on the importance of Jewish law and tradition, which proclaims that nature is not the dominant force in the world, nor is it sacred. There is a unique divine force above nature. Nature's laws represent the world of the savage and barbarian; the Noahide laws represent civil society. Civilization must be intolerant toward barbarity. No compromise is possible between the monotheist God and the polytheist deities.
>Neo-Nazism is another semi-religious ideology. One hears more about its racism than its pagan interests in nature, but the latter are there nonetheless. Few people realize -- and contemporary German Greens prefer not to be reminded of it -- that the first major nature-protection laws were issued, of all places, in Nazi Germany, which would prove to be the cruelest Western country with regard to humans.12 There "any person engaged in such practices would be 'removed to a concentration camp.'"
>I postulate that no nation in the twentieth century has lived as much "in harmony with nature" as Hitler's Germany.
>In the Torah, God tells not only the Jews but also humanity in general that they should not live according to the laws of nature. Judaism totally rejects the "animal in man" and attempts to suppress it.
>If, indeed, protecting nature is a key issue of the next century, there seem to be enough reasons for Jewish observers to watch which direction this powerful, renewed interest in nature will take, and what consequences this may have for world Jewry.
This article was written by a doctor from Israel, btw.
>>79367025
except according to John Locke and many others
the human nature is rational
>>79367578
Genetics pretty much disproves the blank slate
>>79361299
When did Jesus advocate class warfare?
>By your actions you will be judged.
Sounds pretty capitalist to me.
>>79359399
Religion is a spook
Atheism is a spook
There is only the ego
I guess you can just hang out with your arbitrary space explosions.
>>79359399
How are you this mat at Christians when Muslims have committed tens of thousands of attacks on civilians in your lifetime in the name of their religion. Holy shit.
You know what, go tell the Muslims Allah is imaginary and then I'll respect you, until you are willing to preach to them then fuck off.
Just the last 30 days they have killed thousands of people outside of war efforts and you want to lecture people that are peaceful about how bad their beliefs are. Fucking moron.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
>not supporting the noble lie
You idiot.
>>79359399
Why do atheist obsess over god and his followers. I thought you didn't believe them.
You are like an autistic child who thinks he just discover a big secrete and wants to show it off only to realize everybody already knows how to wipe after pooping.
My imaginary friend is every thought and emotion that everyone has.
>>79368592
Romans 1:18-22
That's why
>>79367877
Spooks are spooks. Go back to 8 c h a n.
>>79367578
>>79367868
I am having a hard time understanding how these two statements relate at all to what I posted.
I didn't come into this thread just to berate Christians or anyone. I came in for a discussion. Please elucidate upon what you are saying.
>>79368747
>>79369275
Yep, problem?
>>79369346
The Bible isn't true y'know
>>79369449
No it's the word of God
>>79359399
Tl;dr but you should still drink bleach
>>79369491
No its the word of some people in the Middle East. If it were the word of God I would expect a better book and not just some fucking snooze-fest
>>79359399
Because spirituality is a real motivating life force that people feel and develop deep emotional connections to. You don't understand this and can't understand this because spirituality isn't a physical phenomena that you can put into an empirical box.
This has pretty much been discussed by most major philosophers at one point or another, in fact, for most of history and for most parts of the earth today, being atheist is considered pure intellectually base, conceited, foolishness.
>>79369690
Well your not a Christian so I totally understand y you find it Boring 1 Corinthians 1:18
>>79369846
Psalms 14
>>79369851
Wow what a dumbass God
>Lol I'll make a shitty book that requires brainwashing to be appealing to anyone
>>79369846
>spirituality
>aka bullshit in my mind
I hate that meme word.
>>79370052
Hey if you can make a collection of 66 books written over the course of 1400 years, and it will be worth looking at
>>79370209
>>79370209
>Hey if you can make a collection of 66 books written over the course of 1400 years
Is that supposed to be hard?
>>79369851
>>79369887
>Thread devolves into quoting (((Bible verses)))
Enjoy getting cucked by Mohammed, Gentiles.
>>79370087
If you had a spiritual experience you wouldn't be saying this. I used to think it was all bullshit, it's not, it's very real. Most people probably don't have the ability to connect spiritually with the universe though, perhaps it's difficult for some unknown reason.
>>79370329
Well if you understand prophecy and stuff like that, and the fact that it was written by multiple authors, I would say that is pretty amazing,
Quran, Book of Mormon, written by one man in one life time who claimed to speak to an angel without witnesses, doesn't even pale in comparison
>>79368747
>>79369491
>>79369846
>>79369851
>>79369887
Kys, seriously, God will understand.
>>79370376
Nah I hate islam, it leads people to hell, uses violence to spread, and if it was to go away, I would be the happiest person
>>79359399
Thats because you dont understand why religon is there in the first place.
>>79370630
What
>>79370630
Read some of those verses
>>79370630
Great insight anon! As a fellow 4chan user and /pol/ member I would like to tank you for posting an original and smart view on religion. I would suggest to take it slowly with these delusional, religious zealots as they have never read a Dawkins book before (Haha...I couldn't believe it at first either).
Anyways, keep sharing your great thoughts on religion. If only everyone was as enlightened as you and I. :)
>>79371136
Um yeah, I had a fedora phase in my life, I read the God delusion and a couple of Michael Shermer books
>>79359399
Because the normal state of most people who are not engaged in a pointless ideological crusade (like you are OP suckadick) is afraid, confused, and sad. A trip to church on Sunday, and the idea that they got a friend in Jesus helps to keep the all consuming maelstrom of nothingness at bay. You know what good for them! Whats wrong with thinking that sky-friend has your back?
Are you mad because people got killed because some people went on crusades? Wars happen and people die for reasons unrelated to religion. Humans just like killing each other. Are you sore because they "hold back" humanity? The rock's been rolling for 14 Billion years brother. I doubt that a few people not believing evolution is going to be the spanner in the works.
tl;dr Fuck off back to fedora tipping lessons.
>>79370634
It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
CHRISTIANITY IS FACILITATING THE ISLAMIFICATION OF THE WEST
please offer a response to the post I made earlier to address what you said: >>79365604
While you're at it, take a look at this one, too: >>79367025
Furthermore, let me ask you this: Do you think Christian values are doing anything for traditionalism? I assert that they do the opposite. Christianity has been bending over and taking degeneracy right up the ass for its whole existence. It's exactly how Jesus would want it.
I woe to admit that USA is in fact a Christian nation. And now we have gay pride parades everywhere, men in women's bathrooms, and trannies in our army. You're on /pol/. I'll bet you see this and you hate it.
This is what turning the other cheek looks like.
>>79371132
No, I don't want to be a part of your cult. The idea of God makes you feel good, but it does not have that effect on me. Go take your feel-good Jew-God® and shove it up your ass.
>>79371136
Darn, you sure showed me.
>>79371301
tis a joke anon
>>79371427
>It's exactly how Jesus would want it.
you can't honestly believe this man. if this isn't bait, you are either extremely misguided or deliberately ignorant
>>79371483
The fact is you know God exists, but you just want to sin, you hate God
>>79359399
>claim people who believe in something with out proof are dumb
>believes without any proof there is no God
>>79371427
>CHRISTIANITY IS FACILITATING THE ISLAMIFICATION OF THE WEST
Please, create a graph that shows the islamification of the west and the increase of atheism.
Actually, make a graph that shows everything that is wrong with the world and the increase of atheism.
>this entire thread
>>79371427
Have you been under a rock, conservative American Christians have been trying to stop this garbage, that kind of stuff can bring some harsh judgment on a nation.
Most of the people who promote that stuff are not following the Bible if they claim to be Christians. There is a thing known as apostasy
>>79371629
Whatever you say. Now go read your special little Jew book.
>>79371867
You need to repent and put your trust in Christ, or you will stand guilty before a just and holy God, without excuse for your stubbornness in pride.
Your not safe at all,
>>79371867
May I interest you quite possibly the most well written book of our time? It's called the God Delusion by the one and only Richard Dawkins. His commentary on religion is quite possibly the most profound idea since the late Christopher Hitchens. I'm sure it's something an intellectually superior person like yourself would enjoy.
>>79360494
>i'm from plebbit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79359399
OP, as an agnostic, i can tell you 100% you are fucking retarded. It gives people a sense of hope, something to strive for in the afterlife. Some are toxic(Islam, for example), but most are aight. Don't shit on religion dude. Odds are without it you would have been aborted as part of the progressive agenda.
>>79371602
I have read the entirety of the (((Holy Bible))) three times over. Let's examine briefly the ideology of both testaments within.
The people of Judea were God's chosen for most of human history. A messiah was forseen in prophecy. Jesus came along and proclaimed that the secret God of a special desert cult who has a monopoly on heaven has suddenly extended his divine grace to all men. But of course only through submission to his Will.
I don't know about you, but the god of Judea is not a god that I want to honor. It's the same god of Satan's Synagogue, the same god of Islam. This assertion is no fabrication. All three desert cults (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) recognize the Pentateuch and the Tanakh.
"The meek shall inherit the Earth."
What exactly does meek mean to you? What do you think it meant to Jesus of Nazareth? Take a look at his company.
He asserted his sovereignty over all of man's governance. This man of whores and lepers.
I will concede in your direction a little. I am speaking only of the Bible here. The Gospels of the Gnostics are a different story. I am still not big on them, but they're a different subject matter. I strongly suspect you do not study or follow the Gnostic Gospels.
>>79371691
I'm not going to make your graph. You can do it yourself.
I say for the second time here, please refer to my earlier posts. I am not an atheist by any stretch of the term. I scorn atheism even moreso than I do Christianity. But I attribute the rise of nihilistic, dogmatically empericist atheism to Christendom.
Christianity's core message is the divinity of weakness. It is so that sodomy and fornication have propogated themselves with only MEEK resistance from Christianity. It is central within Christianity to lose the culture war.
How ironic that now Christendom bends over to get cucked by shitskin dick.
>>79372745
Do you get vulgar everytime you cry yourself to sleep, or is it just on Thursdays?
>>79372745
The God of modern Judaism and Islam
Do not worship the same God.
The Christian God is triune, allah is a false idol
So you don't want to be with God after you die, then you will get what you want for eternity.
>>79372745
>The meek shall inherit the Earth
this verse refers to heaven
>This man of whores and lepers.
I don't see how preaching to whores and helping lepers would make him a bad person
>>79372745
Compare the conquests of the caliphates to the Crusades. The caliphs have ALWAYS been relentless in their suppression and violence.
The crusades moved east and southward, then a little westward from Italy, slaughtering the fellows of their race and taking their means and resources.They pursued the Mohammetans never any further than Judea. I criticize the Crusades not for their cruelty and tenacity but for their lack of it. They NEVER EVER fought beyond the desert dunes of the (((chosen))).
Never did the church of the Holy Roman Empire seek to truly suppress Islam. They only drove them away from one particular arbitrary region. They sure were content to suppress the native religions and traditions of the Aryans, though! They appropriated traditions like Halloween and Christmas to entice the ancient indigenous pagans and were entirely content to slaughter those who did not want to convert.
If your blood hails from Arya, from Europa, your ancestors all faced persecution from the church.
>>79359399
they're stories of morality take the good leave the bad. Atheist are garbage cause they never learned to care.
>>79359589
fpbp?
>>79360193
You can do better than that
>>79360753
Please tell me these laws of logic and how their absolute.
>>79373129
>>79373165
>>79373189
I've got to note your cherrypicking, all of you. You have ignored my primary points. You even ignored my concession in your favor!
The Pentateuch and Tanakh are indeed common with all three of these religions. Their common origin is readily apparent.
I beseech you the following: please examine my claims objectively. Set aside the dogma of Christianity if only for a few moments. Look at the face value of what I am saying. If, from that perspective, you think what I am saying is total bullshit, then fine. I do not want to destroy Christian faith through persecution. I want to dismantle with the truth of Spirit. It is Judaism and Islam which deserve to be persecuted and thereby eliminated.
The few pearls of wisdom within the Bible predate the bible by centuries. Jesus of Nazareth was a corrupter.
I am not tipping a fedora at you. I am devoutly religious. I am a traditionalist. What I am saying is that the conservative values espoused by modern Christians are not founded in the Bible.
I don't want to insult you, really. I am just being as honest as I know how to be. If I have intrigued you even a little bit, please do some further research.
Read The Kybalion. It is perhaps the most important book yet penned. You'll find that its wisdom contradicts neither the Christian account of creation, nor the Theory of Relativity, nor Quantum Physics.
God is real. The Soul is real. The Spirit is real. Salvation is real.
The Bible is lying to you.
Please examine what you believe against my criticisms of your holy book. It's not just our civilization that depends on it.
It's the whole world.
>>79374403
Are the laws of logic absolute?
>>79368420
It would be nice to watch all of you grow up a little bit. All your delusions boil down to some guy in the sky. Don't think your religion is any better.
>>79374982
You know God exists, you just love your sins
>>79359399
Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.
>>79370452
Greentext it
>>79374600
you have the devil in ye
>>79375077
You're right
I just converted and had a long chat with Jesus
He's got a real problem with what you and that little boy did
You got some forgiveness to pray for
>>79375473
Allow me to concede again. I am not here to denigrade you, but to challenge you.
Would your God really want you to never question Him? Can divine truth not withstand examination? It certainly can.
The testaments of Christ extend far beyond what is written in The Holy Bible.
Jesus Christ himself admitted openly to his disciples that he was not the Son of God. That he was not the Messiah.
If your faith is true, then it can withstand critical examination. Put it to the test.
>>79375785
Mocking God only makes it worse for you,
>>79375798
Before Abraham was, I am
I and the father are one
>>79375875
I'm not mocking. Why don't you believe me.
Isn't it plausible that he speaks to me?
>>79375933
Genesis is unique in the Bible. Genesis is a numerical account of creation. It's a story levied upon one of the ultimate axiomatic truths. It's a story which was ultimately adapted into the Jewish magical system of Kabbalah.
Yet this whole mythology predates all of Judaism.
By millennia.
Your religion bears something much in common with Islam. It is plagiarized.
>>79376008
Give me the gospel message
>>79375798
>Jesus Christ himself admitted openly to his disciples that he was not the Son of God
that is not true at all
The Jews picked up stone when Jesus mentioned he would return again and fulfill the prophecy. This implied he's God. That's why the Jews tried to stone him for blashpemy
>>79376134
I was quoting the book of John
>>79359399
To be fair, that is the one thing that Islam has over Christianity.
It at least claims its holy book was written direct from god and not to be translated.
While the Christian Bible was put together by a bunch of men who may or may not have had political considerations.
Fun fact. The Bible does not explain how it was created or who had their fingers on making it where the Quran lays it out clearly which if you believe in holy shit, is much more authoritative.
I mean hopefully those men at Nicea were divinely inspired when they were throwing out books left and right they didn't like.
Also there is the translation issue. Both Jews and Muslims are totally against learning the holy books in any other language except their native tongue.
While Christians are too lazy to learn Aramaic and Greek and rely on men who are hopefully inspired to do the translation for them.
What else did I miss
>>79360735
Jesus was a voluntarist you pinko.
>>79376157
I know it's not in the Bible. There are no fewer than twelve direct apostolic accounts of Christ's life. Only four appear in the Bible, and they are all heavily edited.
Jesus Christ renounced his claim that he was the Son of God, and that none enter the Kingdom of Heaven except through him. I'm not making this up. You can find this information yourself.
Why, exactly, do you think the dozens upon dozens of books from The Apocrypha do not appear in the Bible? Really. Why?
>>79376212
I know, anon. Pearls of Truth are scattered all throughout the Bible. The most important truth of the entire Bible isn't in Genesis, either. It's in Exodus. Yet the Bible offers no true, esoteric meaning of this Almighty phrase: "I AM THAT I AM."
The Bible is corrupt.
>>79376928
>Why, exactly, do you think the dozens upon dozens of books from The Apocrypha do not appear in the Bible? Really. Why?
Maybe they aren't considered historically accurate? When are the apocrypha dated and who were the authors?
>>79377116
Well Nicea got rid of a bunch so we don't know.
>>79377116
Which unlike Islam we rely on the council of Nicea to make the Bible which is by all accounts a group of men who did not receive the word directly from god but made their own decisions on what to throw out and what to keep.
Where Islam got it all direct from god and wrote it down shortly thereafter.
>>79377373
except most books in the new testaments could be cross referenced with quotes from other secondary sources and the literary styles could also be compared as well to verify who the author was.
>>79377528
Did these authors claim to receive the word direct from God like Muhammad did? Was Nicea even aware of this?
>>79377116
This is a great question, anon. I'm not going to answer it for you. Look into it yourself.
I beseech you again, set aside your dogma if only for a few moments. Truth ought not fear investigation.
Beware of half truths.
Proof for the resurrection of Jesus:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A
Ex-atheist professor explains why Genesis is the closest book out of all religious books when it comes to how the world came to be:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dsbj7EN1Uzs
>>79360735
What is exactly being "slid" down? Yet another important, relevant thread on the usual /pol/ edginess or some form of reverence for abuse and greed overall? Mighty heavens! Clearly a sin worthy of Satan's name in itself! Egad!
>>79359399
I'm going to become an orthodox christian just to piss you off OP
>>79359399
chill man, christians were cool until they became cucks
>>79377730
I don't really get what's going on but skimming the thread it looks like you have other references that you hold as more pure than the Bible
what are some of these works, you mentioned kabbylon
>>79360753
all trees are made of wood, that means the law of trees are made of wood is universal and applies to every tree,
therefore for the laws of trees made oout of wood are from a universal mind this universal mind is trancendant to the mind of the great wood dildo for hasgoroth
>>79377373
you just know
>>79383094
>was never anti-gay
stopped reading there
>>79376514
>The Bible does not explain how it was created or who had their fingers on making it
it literally does
>>79383094
He was not anti-wealth just because he wanted people to tithe. Matthew 25:14-30 is clearly pro-capitalism.
Mathew 6:5 is not against praying in public. It's against attention whoring. Google it.
He called gays an "abomination." Leviticus 18:22
The rest is equally retarded and I can't be bothered. I'm not even a Christian, by the way.
