How long until it is illegal to segregate bathrooms by gender in the United States? Reminder that "separate but equal" is NOT equal.
why are you using that equation as en example? there is nothing wrong with what hitler did
>>79359255
What equation? I never said that Hitler did anything wrong. He did do something wrong btw (not finishing what he started).
whats the answer to the equation goys
>>79359183
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79359183
Wait, am I retarded or am I missing something?
Won't it just be 5*16?
>>79360792
Thats what Im thinking
>>79360792
>>79361128
There's no way youre both this retarded.
>>79360792
>>79361128
The lengths given do not form a possible trapezoid.
Each base of the triangle would have to be 2 (since 16 - 12 = 4, two triangles, two bases, 4/2 = 2)
2^2 + 5^2 != 8^2
Also the area of a trapezoid is not base1 * height you mongloid
>>79360792
>>79361128
That would give you the area of a rectangle, what is depicted is a trapezoid. You need to get the areas of the two triangles that make up both ends and add that to the 12*5 that makes up the inside rectangle.
>>79361411
>>79359183
It's 70 you retards.
(12+16)/2*5
>>79361561
Idiot. The answer is 100
>>79361432
The triangles are identical though, so you can turn it into a rectangle.
It's called mental maths, mate. Memorising formulas is pretty retarded.
>>79361635
No, 100 is the answer to the question of how many guys your mom fucked
>>79361635
>>79361721
The triangles may be identical but a triangle with hypotenuse 8, base 2, and side 5 cannot exist with a 45 degree angle
>>79361807
>>79361740
Nope. The area of that figure is 100
Two triangles of area = 20
Middle square of area = 60
20 + 60 + 20 = 100
![AbeOik6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xYaMIh8.jpg "AbeOik6[1].jpg")
>>79362314
>>79359183
Guys, it's just the area of a trapezoid
12+16 = 28/2 = 14 x 5= 70= area of object
I think pic means common core adds way to much info you need, which is true, since my brother has these exact same problems and they are cancer.
can that triangle even exist?
a base of 2, height of 5 and hypotenuse of 8
>>79362751
A right triangle cannot have hypotenuse 8, side 5, base 2 with a 45 degree angle.
You can still solve it, but that triangle cannot have those measurements.
>>79362854
30 60 90 triangle?
>>79362849
No, a triangle needs the total length of any 2 of its sides to be greater than the length of the other one.
>>79362314
How are you getting the area of the two triangles as 20? It's 10.
>>79362854
Anyways, right triangles aren't even needed in this problem.
>>79363134
Yeah no shit
>math problem
>having an impossible shape
This is the issue, that triangle cannot have those measurements.
>>79362314
The fuck is wrong with you? The hypotenuse of the triangle is 8 not the opposite. (16-12)/2 is 2.
>>79363237
its completely irrelevant, get checked for legit autism
>>79362854
You do realise a figure doesn't have to actually match the values it provides right? I could draw a square and slap a different value on each side and say "find the area" and it would be a completely valid question.
>>79363474
You can't solve it as a trapezoid if it isn't a right triangle.
HI ;)
>>79362950
Vietnam #1
USA #19
>>79363931
Ya but Vietnam is filled with cucks
>>79359183
Well, you could look at this from a logical point of view. The trapezoid consists of two right triangles, and a rectangle. Add up the area of the both of the triangles, and then the area of the rectangle. So since the bottom base of the trapezoid is 16, and the top is 12, that means the bottom of both triangles is 2 units. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that the area of a triangle is side x side divided by 2. So 2x5 divided by 2 is 5, x 2 (Other triangle) is 10. Add 10 to the area of the rectangle, 12 x 5, which is 60. Therefore the area is 10 + 60. 70.
>>79363474
>>79363697
>figure doesn't have to actually match the values it provides right?
if that's not a 90 degree angle then it's not a solvable problem. fuckin idiot.
>the implied information can be wrong but we still expect you to get the right answer.
>>79363254
Finding the hypotenuse of the triangle would mean using the Pythagorean theorem. So technically the hypotenuse of the triangle isn't 8 but rather it's the square root of 29 (5.38516480713). You get to 29 from 5^2 + 2^2.
>>79364150
Yes, but 5^2 + 2^2 =/= 8^2
I don't know why this is being blamed on Common Core instead of unqualified teachers though. This error has nothing to do with doctrine.
>>79364522
The entire point of common core is that:
>the information doesn't have to be right the only thing that matters is the logic of the kid's answer
this is fucking retarded in every way possible, and there's a reason why the creator of common core doesn't use common core at his private grade school.
>>79364512
They gave you the hypotenuse, it literally doesn't matter what the actual hypotenuse is. And the fact that line isn't a right angle is irrelevant because both sides have a hypotenuse of 8 making them equal meaning both triangles still have an opposite of 2.
>>79359183
16-12=4
4/2=2
(2*5)+(12*5)=70
I never took common core so I could be wrong. maybe it's x=transgender
>>79364522
See
>>79364512
But yeah you're right. I've had some pretty shit teachers in my life. I kinda hate american education, throughout my life I've always out shined my fellow classmates.
>>79364699
it's completly stupid because the hypotenuse is not used at all. It shouldn't have even been given if they were just going to give a non real value anyways. The whole problem is stupid in every way.
>>79364699
How do you know that the top left and top right angles are the same? The triangle on the right can have a slightly different side and base, making the problem unsolvable.
i feel like common core is going to dumb everyone down to nigger-levels, instead of raising niggers up to white human levels
>>79364834
The hypotenuse is literally the only way we can know both sides are equal thereby making it the only way we can know that 12 is positioned dead centre over 16. They clearly just fucked up and forgot to mark the right angle. This is a question for 5 year olds anon.
>>79359183
The moment they do, there will be a 1000% rape crime increase. For both parties.
I think the real exercise is to filter out irrelevant and extraneous information to find the data you actually need. this could actually be a higher level exercise, even if it is by accident.
we had this kind of stuff in the star program back in the day. they would give you a bunch of open ended problems and problems with data you didn't need, so you had to figure out what was pertinent
>>79364150
The joke is that the base measurement of 16 is a lie. It should be 26 based on the triangles. If the base measurement really is 16, then the side measurements of 8 are a lie. They should be the square root of 29, which is around 5.385.
>>79365014
How do you know the top angles are the same? You don't.
The triangles could have slightly different dimensions except have the same hypotenuse. Are you really gonna argue that it doesn't matter?
>eh close enough, that's what I always say
t. engineer created by common core
>>79365014
>>This is a question for 5 year olds
>Forgetting the fact you're talking to an American
>Forgetting that with common core you don't actually do this until you're too old to grasp it correctly
This is actually really sad. This question is for babies and you are all trying to solve it using trig to prove how smart you are and how dumb common core is. The lesson preceding this was most likely a lesson in breaking down shapes into smaller shapes to find the area, I highly doubt they covered sines and shit. Literal 5 year old level stuff.
>>79365123
>information I don't need
>such as information about an impossible shape, making the problem unsolvable without further information
>this is a good thing in a MATH class
are you gonna argue that?
>>79365014
or you could take the difference of the top and bottom length, create shapes with right angles that are complimentary to create rectangles, and stick the pythagorean principle up your loose sloppy rectum
>>79365388
How do you know that the top angles are the same? You don't. So how can you put the two triangles together to make a square? You can't without further information. :-)
Why do people give a fuck? The laundry list of problems people could have with trannies and this one dickslaps you on TV the most. We already have unisex bathrooms you cucks, go in and take a fucking shit and go. What is wrong with you people?
>>79360706
newfags can't 2
>>79364699
The problem is that if 8 is true, then its not the hypotenuse of a right triangle, and therefore 5 is not a height because it's not a right angle with the base, and you then cannot calculate the area.
>>79364643
>The entire point of common core is thatthe information doesn't have to be right the only thing that matters is the logic of the kid's answer
that's always been true though, that's why show your work has always been a thing. If the kids smart enough to point out the error in the problem, he deserves extra credit. Again, this has nothing to do with common core.
Now I've heard some stories about particularly authoritarian teachers actually punishing students for "undermining authority" when they correct the teacher's error, and those teachers should be imprisoned.
>>79365385
I'm certainly not going to argue that. I was educated in a manner where math was a pure exercise, same as comp and rhetoric. we had a separate class where they taught us to use all of these principals to solve problems. they are just being lazy and cheap by trying to skip the foundation process before teaching kids to use the knowledge they have to solve problems
>>79365817
Agreed which is why common core is a bad thing as its obviously inferior
>>79365631
Yeah, let's put the number 5.3851648071345040312507104915403 on a 5 year olds pop quiz. That totally won't overwhelm them.
>>79365936
>yeah let's give them a problem that isn't solvable without further information, that'll surely help them in the long run
>>79365123
>irrelevant and extraneous information
Except they needed to mark both non-parallel sides to communicate that it's an isosceles trapezoid.
>>79366017
It is solvable though. In fact it is incredibly obvious what they expect the answer to be. You are overthinking things. In fact I actually think this question is very good in that regard, it shows how overthinking a simple problem can be just as bad as not giving it enough thought. But of course this is all moot because this question is for toddlers and toddlers will simply solve it using the things they have been taught to use.
>>79359183
It'll never happen because there's always going to be someone with enough sense to say that gender is too nebulous and sex is concrete biology.
Okay /sci/, what is the area of this triangle. The answer may surprise you.
>>79365000
My based Ethiopian co-worker and I are in total agreement on this point.
Trips of Truth confirm.
>>79365433
they would be complimentary no matter what. so long as you know the length of the top and bottom of the trapezoid you could find the area if you have the height. it's complimentary either way
>>79366182
>You are overthinking things.
No I'm an engineer. You cannot imply this is a trapezoid without further information, find me a mathematician that thinks that's a good problem for students.
It's a broken question. Math isn't about shortcuts, the little bits matter just as much as the small, you cannot give broken problems then say "only solve the part that matters" it's math - the entire problem is what you have to solve not just the bit the teacher wants you to.
Find me a mathematician that thinks a broken problem is a good problem for math students.
The details matter in math - that's all we've got to go on in math. There's no 'bigger picture' it's just us and the numbers.
>>79366438
Fuck off you faggot, there's clearly no answer
>>79366498
How do you know the top angles are the same? Hypotenuses could be the same - sides and bases could be different, meaning there's no proof that it's a trapezoid.
>>79366182
I agree. the people who have trig on the mind are just hammers looking for nails. when they find a bolt they shit their pants
>>79366182
It is not solvable. It is an impossible figure.
Common Core is based on lies. That's the fucking joke.
>>79359605
top edge xD
>>79366643
>math
>the details don't matter
good luck out there buddy hope you're doing a safe mathless degree
>>79366562
I can find you a mathematician that thinks that is a good problem for toddlers.
>>79365291
>breaking down shapes into smaller, impossible shapes
Yeah, sure.
>>79366725
He'd think it was a good problem if they labeled the other side of the triangle, so we'd have proof it's a trapezoid
>>79366438
6+6+6=18
18*2=36
Take the post ID of 79366438 and plug it into a Monte Carlo program and run it 10,000 times.
Take the average, which in this case was 50.1688.
36/50.1688=0.7176
0.7161*100=7176
7176/(36*2) (times 2 because two triangles make a square) = 100
That's how we know there are 100 degrees in a triangle, which checks out.
So the area must be half of the 36, which is 18.
>>79366438
15.59 it's equilateral
>>79366753
>2 right triangles and a rectangle
>Impossible
>>79366595
It's clearly a pyramid you fucking flatlander.
>>79366839
Please try constructing a right triangle with sides 2, 5 and 8.
>>79366839
They are evidently and objectively not right triangles.
>>79366839
>right triangle with angle 30 45 or 60
>side 5
>hypotenuse 8
>base 2
>impossible
yup
>>79359183
How long until it is illegal to be a white cis male in the United States?
>>79366839
>right triangles
Except they're demostrably not right triangles.
>>79366922
There you go.
>>79366882
maybe you should point that out by defining it's dimensions with a dotted line you fucking dumbass.
>>79366562
I get that in a real world situation things are generally not ideal shapes, but this is not the scenario we are dealing with
>>79367067
>but this is not the scenario we are dealing with
says who? you? not according to the problem fuckface
>>79367012
what's the area of that triangle?
86,89 mm2
>>79367183
If we're going non-euclidean it may as well be ∞
>>79367183
468^22e+49
>>79367067
In the real world, a value of 8 plus or minus 3 has no significance since the error is so high, and is therefore unfit to perform calculations with.
Stop using ideal as a weasel word, faggot.
>>79366949
Side 5
Hypotenuse 8
Base sqrt(39)
>>79366562
Technically it's supposed to be a parallelogram, which is a special case of trapezoid. Details, laddy.
>>79367187
We don't know that the height is 5 because we don't know that that line is orthogonal to both bases
>>79367363
thanks for the correction
*edited + upvoted
the 5 shouldn't be there in the picture, is that the point of it?
>>79366716
ha. you are the one saying the details don't matter in general, which I disagree with. in this particular situation the details you are so ass blasted about actually don't matter though
>>79366438
40.18 units.
>>79367183
if you ignore the 8, it's 10
if you ignore the 5. it's ~15.5
if you ignore the 2, it's ~31.25
>>79366949
>Write it's an impossible shape on the exam paper
>Fail
>Ask teacher why you failed
>Teacher tells you it is because you are 5 and your teacher is a mid level high school graduate who majored in childcare
>Say "oh" and go back to your copy of Blue Bear and the Convex Hull computation dilemma
>>79367347
Sqrt(39) is just over 6.
Meaning the base side of that triangle is >6
Meaning the leftover part of the bottom base of the trapezoid is <10.
Starting to see the problem here?
>>79367450
Actually I fucked up. It's not really a parallelogram.
>>79367639
>it doesnt matter if a math problem is broken
>it doesnt matter if the things we teach kids are wrong
please continue
>>79367312
wow, getting pretty testy little buddy.
let's make this a rational discussion. we all know the 8 makes the problem irrstional. so by ignoring the obviously false data, we can still come to a rational answer by using the other data available.
>>79367986
>we can still come to a rational answer by using the other data available.
go on?
>>79367970
>It doesn't matter if we twist people's arguments to make it look like they are preaching to the extreme
You want to try teaching a 5 year old trigonometry?
>>79367986
Even ignoring the 8, you can only solve the problem by assuming that the top and bottom are parallel (i.e. the 5-line is normal to both the 12 and 16-lines), which in any halfway-decent math book would be indicated by the little square on the angle.
>>79367970
>be me
>be in my 30s
>go through my complete collection of all my work in elementary school
>take a look at this incorrectly written math problem
>I solved it anyway
>lose my will to live
>>79359183
I love how every time this is posted, it completely derails everything. I don't think one person has addressed OPs question.
About one year into Hillary's term if she wins. Only Trump can fix it.
>>79368137
OP's own fault for posting an image more interesting than their post.
>>79368137
To be fair anon. It is completely obvious what the answer they expect is and ultimately that is a life problem. Not that I'd expect the autists in this thread to get that. Sometimes giving the answer you are expected to give is better than giving the answer you know is correct. So you're wrong, who gives a shit if you are getting something out of it.
>>79359183
Actually, separate but equal can be equal. But in practice, most people/corporations/agencies give up on the separate part because it is so hard to prove that separate things are truly equal.
Oddly enough, the strongest argument against segregated bathrooms is that most men's rooms are inferior to women's, because there are less toilets and more urinals. I'm betting the trannies that went from female to male will be the ones to complain the most and use this as their legal argument.
>>79368137
this
>>79368130
It's ok I know you can't answer my question without looking silly
>>79368101
Where did you get 5 year old?
>>79368379
It's ridiculous that you actually think your opinion matters and you're going to get a charged response out of me.
>>79368101
Pythagorean theorem is geometry not trig, Remainfag.
>>79368269
It WOULD be completely obvious had they not included the 8s, and actually indicated somehow that the 12 and 16 were parallel.
If you include extra information to throw people off, that information had better not fuck up the problem.
>>79368484
>Pythagorean theory isn't trigonometry
Is this American education?
>>79368055
you can visually see that the shape has two parallel lines. we know the length of them. we know the height of them. by dividing the shape up we can make two shapes that allow us to simplify the shape and find the area.
the other option is to measure all the angles and lengths, decide on a scale , and use the measurements to determine an arbitrary area.
one data point we have is obviously wrong, and doesn't help determine the area as easily as the others .
what do??
>>79361411
The diagram isn't to scale nigger tits
>>79368476
I already did. Keep going?
>>79368597
You can't solve a problem that doesn't have enough information.
>>79368635
>The diagram isn't to scale nigger tits
a right triangle with sides 8,5,2 cannot exist
the problem is only solvable if you assume both triangles are the same which isn't indicated in the problem
>>79368572
Yes. I remember deriving the proof in geometry class before I even took trig. Was very satisfying.
Go look at wiki. It's clearly part of Euclid. Way before trig was invented.
>>79368572
Trig as in image is taught like 3 years after pythagorean theorem here.
>>79361807
I did this intuitively, you used a simple and established program . it's the obvious answer. wish my phone wasn't fucking up. keeps showing a blank white screen when trying to solve captcha . I want to argue
>>79368572
You quoted the wrong post, but in general it's taught far before any "real" trig.
>>79368756
Pretty sure they are not going to accept "need more info" as an answer. So clearly a trapezoid. Or maybe that's why ComCore is so fucked up?
>>79368977
But I mean, it is still concerning the identity and properties of triangles. Pythagorean theorem is one of the most important facets of trigonometry.
>>79369116
>Pretty sure they are not going to accept "need more info" as an answer.
If the teacher doesn't accept this as an answer, they need to be fired just saying. This is the right answer.
>>79368677
very true. in this instance though, the critical bit if data isn't what you might think. knowing if the 5 is at a right angle to 16 is literally the only data point you would need to solve this.
>>79369330
>knowing if the 5 is at a right angle to 16 is literally the only data point you would need to solve this.
agreed, but it isn't given, there are multiple ways to indicate the triangles are the same but they didn't do so.
>>79368269
And how is an eight year old kid supposed to know what the expectation is? I'm sure they're expected to calculate the area using the standard trapezoid formula, which does not require the hypotenuse to be known. So including it can only have adverse effects, for instance a particularly smart kid could be penalized for recognizing the impossibility. It's not just "hurr durr only autists care", it has actual potential effects to a child's education.
>>79369217
now let's solve this one!
what is the area of this parallelogram?
>>79369708
>>79368942
Well, one year after where I'm from, but yes it was nice to do it another way. Which is what this whole thread is about.
Capcha: is fucking up. kind of fun to match the three things that are alike with no clue.
>>79369701
this, well said
>>79369701
This is from a college class retards
>>79368137
Plessy v Furguson was correctly decided but poorly implemented. Brown v Board was the beginning of the end. Happy now?
OP:
they will force integration, the generation forced to share bathrooms will hate it and change the law. non issue
>>79369807
Come to think of it it probably had to do with being in advanced classes in elementary, then less advanced classes as I went into middle school since my middle school's "gifted" standards were looser.
>>79370462
Or find workarounds. See: Busing in Boston.
>>79370483
same here. we had a retired navy engineer teach our k-5 GT program. it was formal logic, computer programing, spatial problem solving etc... then it got all liberal arts and let's read our diaries in middle school
>>79369708
>>79369783
Solution can be given as a range of possible areas assuming the drawing is wrong.
The object in the OP though is never described as a trapezoid and the lengths given cannot form a trapezoid or indeed any polygon. Even assuming the drawing is wrong, you can't find its area. Because it's actually an open polygonal chain and not a polygon.
>>79370483
I moved from Massachusetts to California and it set me back by 2 years. Fucking sad.
>>79370639
I think little kids should have an hour of playtime, merciless drilling in math science language, another hour of play time, lunch, two more hours of drilling, music lessons, go home.
>>79359183
How is this related to bathroom doors? Was this trapezoid made by the same person that defines what gender is?
Because that would explain things.
>>79370744
fair enough. that would be a good answer to provide. 70 would also be acceptable. I'm pretty sure 70 is what they are looking for, even if your answer is more correct
>>79370819
best post
Yeah so the only measurement wrong is the base. By Pythagoras theorem, base of the triangles is √39 which is about 6.245 if both the triangles are the same then the entire base is (2*6.245)+12 which is 24.49.
Then the area is (2*1/2*6.245*5) + (12*5). So assuming the actual base is 24.49 by our calculations, the area is 91.225 sq units.
>>79369170
But can be proved using only geometry and its axioms. Yes, I agree it is very important in trig, but at its core, it is geometry.
>>79366438
15.6 approx
>>79369116
It's just a stupid, fucked up construction that looks nothing like the image, because the dotted line is not at a right angle to the base.
The best answer you can give is a range of possible values; I did the math the last time this thread came up but I think I deleted the proof, which is too bad.
>>79370774
This so much. I went from New Jersey to Maine and my education fucking tanked.
>>79371054
>>79367547
>>79366832
>>79366823
You're all wrong because that line in the middle clearly isn't a right angle making it an impossible shape. The actual answer is go fuck yourself.
>>79371314
The line in the middle is irrelevant you gay cunt you can solve the area using one of the sides of an equilateral T
>>79371135
It's not about the math! The fucking joke is that Common Core is based on lies. The "answer" is not the point. Here, have a video by Die Antwoord, which means, "The Answer".
It's way more relevant to your interests than this poor excuse for a thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uee_mcxvrw
>>79371382
But it's clearly not equilateral because the bottom line is wrong.
>>79371054
Its not drawn to scale to begin with so that really doesnt matter.
You can assume that its the height of left triangle off of context, but it'd be wise to specify that assumption in the proof
>>79359183
anyone who can't solve this is a fucking retard. plain and simple.
>The base of the left triangle must be 2.
>The left triangle can be added to right to make a rectangle of length 14 and width 5.
>14 x 5 = 70
>>79371983
What makes you think that produces a rectangle? The triangles do not have right angles.
>>79359183
No angles, not drawn to scale, unsolvable equation.
Where can I find the guy who started this common core bullshit so I can brutally murder him? This is treason to mathematics
It's an impossible question masquerading as an easy question that only needs 1 angle to turn it into moderately difficult question.
>>79372118
This, as someone with great respect for math I absolutely despise this diagram.
A=((16+12)*5)/2⇒A=70
>>79359183
16-12=4
4/2=2
We get a triangle with sides of 2, 5 and 8 which cannot exist (2+5<8)
>>79375972
But it can exist. There is a picture of it right there on the page.
>>79371677
you don't assume diagrams are to scale in exams
>>79371279
What county?
>>79359183
Oh well, you know how you can see into stalls through the cracks in bathroom doors? That's free porn sorta right?
>>79362027
its made so that niggers can pass school
dont worry
>>79360792
It's 5*14 you fuck
>>79360706
No no no. That's to find the hypoteneus.
The hypoteneus is already defined as 8.
5x2 + 12x5 =70
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