So how did socialism in Venezuela fuck the country up so hard?
>>79343287
Because its socialism
>>79343485
I was asking for a bit of a more detailed answer than that
>>79343546
But that's just the answer, it's always the same stuff.
Taking away incentives followed by shortages and a stop of growth.
>>79344003
Thats not details m8
What else do you need to know apart what these anons have told you.
>>79343287
Because they didn't follow the golden rule.
Everyone knows that the only good form of socialism is national socialism.
>shoots ground
>oy vey look at this oil
>meanwhile in Cuba and Brasil
>"Hey Lula, let's dominate the continent" said Fidel to Lula, creating Foro de São Paulo(leftist union of south america)
>F.S.P finances Chavéz to dominate Venezuela
>HEEEEEEEY PPL LETS SOCIALISM THIS SHIT WE GOTS DE MONY(stolen from Brasil and from the natural gas they sold)
>a little while later...
>wheres mUH OIL?!?!?!
>Maduro happens
>everything goes to shit as socialists try to stay in power while no money enters through oil sales or through F.S.P(Brasil is not able to finance them anymore, we're broke)
Basically what happened is: there's a huge leftist association called Foro de São Paulo, created by the Castro brothers and the leader of Brazilian 'workers' party, Lula, and their plan was to finance leftist dictatorships on all south american countries to recover what the international communist movement lost when the USSR ended, and they were financially based on money that they could steal from Brasil, but the Brazilian socialists missed the timing for turning into dictators themselves(not for lack of trying, we're still in the brink of civil war), and thus the dictatorships on smaller countries lots their abilities to distribute free goodies for their populations, and on some, like Argentiniggerland, they stopped the F.S.P partners from becoming dictators before it being too late, but others were not so lucky and did not turn away from leftist retardness until they were already being buttfucked by huge government and regulations that basically made it impossible to trade, leading to shortages and now to famine.
http://forodesaopaulo.org/
>>79344402
>Something costs $10 to produce
>Government demands you sell it for $5
>Disappears from the store
>>79343287
Russians.
kinda want to give a vuvuzelian $20, because I know they only make that in a month to feed a family.
and I make that in an hour driving around delivering pizzas
>>79346112
You can't do it m8.
They cannot accept foreign money because the goverment says it's illegal to do so.
You cannot send food either, it's also illegal. They even have a term for that: "bachaqueros" or people who trade/smuggle food.
>>79346052
This anon gets it.
>>79343287
it doesn't work. it never has. the people that like it are completely empty headed retards.
>>79346923
You can, last time a bunch of nice anons were helping us out with bitcoins and paypal.
>>79346112
stop you too
>>79343287
Chavez was mentally retarded, but Venezuelans didn't realize this and voted for him. Bush Jr. realized it and a few others, but it was too late. Chavez croaked, and they then voted in another retard Maduro, again they don't suspect he's mentally handicapped.
>>79343287
Aside from the usual problems, Venezuela was also simply run by absolute retards who based their entire economy on a single commodity at a ridiculously high price at which it was clearly not going to stay.
>>79347863
>>79348109
Very good anons, very good.
>>79346936
>>79348352
How's your country doing now? any good socialism in action stories?
>>79346112
Actually you can, i made a thread asking for help to buy a plane ticket to go to work in Ecuador, a nice anon paypaled me 50$, now i only need 250$ more to buy the ticket :)
>>79343546
Because there's always one more government program that'll fix everything... but it doesn't
>Chile gets Pinochet
>We get Chavez
JUST
>>79348489
>Driving with a mate in caracas
>Fucking ford explorer flashes lights
>Gets ahead of our shitbox and brakes hard
>Wontletuspass.jpg
>Tyrones start coming out of the eddie bauer
>I fucking hammer the pedal to the metal and get past them by a small gap between the defense and the explorer
>Mfw i just avoided an express kidnapping @7pm
I thought socialism always works though! #FeelTheBern
>>79343287
>socialism
That's state capitalism
>>79343546
It's a law of nature, socialism makes shit.
>>79348489
Its doing really really bad, i have seen families that doesn't eat real food for days, most of the people in my neighborhood is going trough that
>>79348921
Is this the definition of Socialism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
>>79348921
reddit is that you?
>>79348921
>B-but it wusnt real socialism!!!
>>79348921
>it doesn't count it's not real!!!
>REAL socialism has never been tried!!!!!!!
t. every redcuck ever
>>79348921
Every time
>>79348352
How was the pasta and ketchup anon?
>>79349191
I came to post this.
Socialism doesn't make things start to go bad. Nature does that, but socialism then prevents anybody from fixing it.
>>79349254
I ate chicken and rice with sum nestea, feels good man.
>>79349254
Really awful my tummy hurts :(
>>79348921
It's funny how every socialist party in the entire world collectively named themselves falsely
>>79349274
Was uploading it already, captcha shits itself by 100%...
>>79346112
I've been donating Bitcoin and paypal every time this thread pops up.
The thanks I've gotten off some for feeding them and their family for a month makes you feel good.
>>79348921
Socialism which is the transition stage from capitalism to communism inevitably leads to state capitalism.
>>79349417
I'm sorry anon :/ I'm sure everything will get better soon :) I wish I could send you something better but I really don't like brown people
>>79343287
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>>79343287
SOCIALISM NOT EVEN FUCKING ONCE
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eeb_1464380357
>Prisoner burned with boiling plastic and forced to eat the flesh of a dead body
>>79346112
If you insist, pp [email protected]
>>79343287
>Promise gibme dats
>Subsidize it with oil because you can
>Things are ok right now, so continue revolution
>Nationalize everything and price controls because you can't buy everything with oil. Give to your loyal comrades
>Don't know how to run things, they stop working and making things as they lose money anyways.
>It's ok, oil still profitable and keep everyone fed despite everything else going bad
>Oil prices go south, removing the only support the country has left to pay for things
>Less food/stuff can be subsidize, everything else is expensive to import can't be made
>People wait in lines for subsidized food/stuff
>Doing this and reselling becomes more profitable than an actual job
>Less stuff is made, stuff becomes scarce and expensive
>Shortages are everywhere now since you have to cut imports
>People go hungry, get angry
and here we are now
>>79349484
You can at least ask for a fucking timestamp, they are prolly spending it on eBay or steam kek
>>79349621
Kkk is that you?
>>79349484
I finally decided to donate paypal. Feels good.
Pupperfridge bro. Identify yourself so I know your ID. I'll be lurking this thread for a while.
>check Venezuelan penpals
>last online: 1 month ago
N-never mind then, probably dead in a gutter somewhere.
>>79349819
Someone sent me some some pepsodent and some groceries kek
>>79349621
Most venezuelans posting here are probably white. Browns don't have internet or computers, and certainly can't pay for 4chan passes.
>>79350262
>Wat is mobile
>>79350127
Sup
>>79350204
Shit nice, dhl?
>>79349819
I haven't been posting and asking, I've been waiting for the threads to start up to weed out proxy fags then offer to the ones that seem to be struggling.
If they want to spend it on steam that's fine, don't think anyone is ebaying anything with the postal system over there and never receiving any packages outside the systems you pay more for.
Some have been quite gracious son whatsapp.
>>79350353
cool
>>79350480
Nevertheless thanks for helping nonshitposting aussie
>>79350262
I'm brown like your shit bro
>>79350480
Getting a working proxy would be pretty hard IMO. Cantv is banned on 4chan and most internet here uses that, so you need a 4chan pass to post, like me.
I hope I win one at the banner contest because spending $20 on a pass each year hurts so much.
>>79350616
Asco, I'm white.
>>79343287
Why is it that you guys can't post?
>>79343546
Read Animal Farm.
>>79351017
Main isp banned cuz cp
>>79350477
does dhl have special permission in venezuela or something?
i've bought something from venezuela once and there was a confession letter to the government that what was being exported was not drugs/illegal stuff
>>79351095
My guess is that they work closely with the govmnt, dhl and fedex are smooth as fuck over here, expensive obviously
>>79350477
Yes i will post pictures give me a minute
So when are Venezuelans going to start starving to death?
>>79351095
Fuck I don't know, all I know is private mail companies work.
>>79351233
We already are.
http://www.naturalnews.com/054383_Venezuela_starvation_food_shortage.html
>>79345974
>[angry monkey screeching]
>>79351568
Oh
I hope things work out ok for you.
Some of the things i have left that some nice anonfag sent me
>>79352099
>that id
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>79352099
Nice man! I thought dhl couldnt carry food over here, glad to be wrong
>>79352099
At least you have clean teeth.
Going to post your PayPal Ben bro??
It's been looking grim Venezuelans, I hope something turns around for you guys soon. Maybe U.N starts food drops or something. I saw an article yesterday and it looks pretty bad over there
>>79352099
Should've sent you protein powder instead of a can of tuna.
>>79352363
Its [email protected], i'm saving money to get tf out of here before it gets even worse
I'm willing to accept qt venezuelan refugees ;)
>>79352655
He sent more things but i already ate/used most of it, he even sent me some deodorant
>>79352901
Gtfo you already have bigass brownies over there
>>79353003
>Tfw still using mum bolita
>>79352747
There ya go venz bro.
I'm sure more anons will give you a hand up.
Now no more socialism OK? It makes great popcorn watching content but it makes you a little sick watching the world burn.
>>79353260
you guys don't have deodorant?
>>79352747
How much money do you need to bail?
>>79353557
Nah bro, its another thing thats pretty scarce, procter & gamble is producing 0 and no one else wants to produce at a loss.
>>79350745
I use my phone because Digitel isp isn't banned from 4chan, your 4chan pass is for rich fags
>>79353691
fuuuuck gross. How can it be that bad down there??
How do you ship down there? Is it super expensive? I'm gonna be traveling this next week but will look into how to get you some shit like that.
>>79353666
I'm looking to go to Ecuador , i need 300$ for a plane ticket, i already have 72$ in my PayPal cause of 4chan donations
>>79353744
>Mobilevenezuelan
My nigga.
I hope youre using clover for a truly premium 4chan experience.
>>79353926
Dhl & fedex are on mafia levels over here and they seem to be able to get anything through customs (see the other anon pics), dunno how expensive it could get though
>>79353927
Do you have a plan when you get there? Like where to live? I'll help out but don't want to send you somewhere to be homeless.
>>79353927
I plan to give you a bit when you get paid, but why Ecuador, and nor Chile?
>>79354107
Chile is pretty hard to migrate to, its close to a first world country so the requirements to work over there are huge.
>>79346112
Sure if there was any food to buy
>>79354074
Email me what type of stuff you need. I'll see what I can do.
No promises though. But I'll try.
>>79343287
Only works for White people and East Asians
>>79352099
Or he should've mailed you some multi-vitamins.
>>79354253
Well, yeah, but it's also capitalistic. You're just wanting to bail from one socialistic shit hole to another.
How much would it cost you to get to Chile?
>>79354095
I have a friend who moved to Quito in december, before the parliament members election, fearing shit would get worse here, he already has a job, and he offered me to stay where he is leaving and help to find a job, i wouldnt bother him asking for money to get there because he aint a rich fag there yet because of sending money to his family in venezuela
>>79354585
what's your paypal?
>>79354585
I want an answer to this, too>>79354716
You'll have your plane ticket tonight.
It's not socialist. It's bad Keynesian capitalism. Hopefully the Venezuelan workers seize the factories.
>>79354276
Sent. We can be penpals now kek
>>79355084
>Baitoru
>tfw talking to heaps of girls from Venezuela on Interpals
>offer them Paypal dosh/long distance relationship in return for nudes
>cut off contacts after gathering a couple dozen or so pics
I love socialism
>>79355124
No bait here Pablo. Take heart from Catalonia, Paris Commune and Kurdistan.
>>79353744
Getting $20 a year isn't too hard. I sold two pokemon gamecube games for $80 so I'm still good for now.
I just can't live without posting in this hellhole. I spend too much time on it.
>>79355218
To add, I don't actually go through with sending them money
>>79355306
I gathered that.
>>79355372
You aren't who I was asking, but since he's not responding, what are your plans, and how much do you need?
>>79355218
>>79355306
Lol those girls are dumb af
>>79355240
Venezuelan workers already have the factories, thats why theres such a low production output, ahkmed.
>>79346112
Helping those who cannot help themselves is degenics.
>>79355426
That's probably the same anon, he's posting from mobile. Feel free to check the archive for his email for the same story.
>>79355426
I am the same guy but idk why my id changes when i'm on my cellphone, i'm the pepsodent poster
>>79355643
So you still need 230?
>>79355426
>>79355637
Id changes if you lose network coverage, or switch from 3g to 2g
>>79355721
I'll send him 30
>>79355721
Yeah thats right
>>79348865
>You will never get to go on a helicopter ride with Pinochet while throwing commies from the helicopter
Why even live..
>>79355124
Got it. Replied.
I'll look into it buddy.
>>79355722
>>79355911
>>79355721
we /Nigerian prince/ now
>>79356012
Nigerian astronaut lost in space needs $3m to get home
>>79355218
You're doing it right Aquafresh.
>>79355934
Man, I hope you're not bullshitting me with this. But here we go....
>>79355911
You better keep your word on that one. If he can't get out over a measly 30 bucks, I'll be upset.
>>79355721
>>79355934
30 sent
>>79355643
Man, why do your IDs look so worn out? They look like those old ass papers we had ages ago that weren't even laminated and you had to find some nigga to do it for you.
>>79356229
>>79355934
Sent.
>>79356217
>>79356229
>forgot pic
Can't bring myself to ask for money but it's so nice to see anons helping out.
I love the sense of community 4chan has despite being anonymous.
>>79348761
fuck off, we're full
>>79343287
This thread is so awesome.
>>79343287
>>79343485
>>79343546
>>79344003
>>79344402
>>79345517
>>79345720
>>79356438
>>79356369
>>79356343
>>79356333
>>79356307
>>79356276
Reminder that Venezuela fell because it wasn't socialist enough. If it was capitalist it would be Somalia.
>>79356369
>>79356343
Man it just blows my mind tbph. I make almost $40 AN HOUR here and it's life changing down there right now. Just wanna help out.
>>79356307
I already closed the page, but here's a portion of the email.
>>79356343
>community
the only common bond we have is hate for liberals and niggers. Granted, is quite a strong bond.
>>79349684
Sounds like capitalism
>>79356606
nice bro.
>>79356582
I make 16/hr. I'll be feeling this gift for a while.
>>79356369
Based little bro.
Remove commiezuelans.
Holy fucking fuck...
But i thought you all were national socialists?
>>79356505
>>79356582
>40,000 bsf an hour
Fug.
>paypal
Seems like the banks would just steal your money, how does anything even function in that hellhole
>>79356749
Now go get your fucking plane ticket, and bail. Funds will hit your paypal on the 1st, or so paypal told me.
>>79356749
Good luck in Ecuador Kenny
Lets hope pepsodentbro stays true to his word and gets the fuck outta here
>>79356819
I verified mine only using a CC, its a way to dodge the absolute currency control burgerbro
>>79356582
$40 an hour nigga gibsmedat what do u do
>>79356867
Nigga is a based engineer
>>79356842
It's Kennedy.
>>79343287
well, first off:>>79343485
And secondly, controlling markets and attempting to direct a country by social engineering either leads to market collapses (best case) or in horrors of mass executions (Stalin, Mao, Ceausescu).
>>79355643
Better have a timestamp in a month, faggot. Good luck. Don't spend it all on hookers just yet.
>>79356867
Engineer. I think technically it's like 36 and hour.
That's pretty average for my field though
Just told my friend about what just happened thanks guys!
>>79356582
USA is really a nice nation anon
40 USD per hour in brasil is a moderate-to-high salary
in venezuela, with their current conditions (they shut down electricity to save) it is really high
Any Venezuelan communists here? I will support you if you fight.
>>79356954
Oh my god. We saved Kenny! :^)
>>79343485
It's not even socialism, they are just stealing everything right in front of everyone. My country's government says that we are socialist, but we are just 1/4 socialist and 3/4 capitalist, there is no such thing as full socialism. Maduro is just retarded.
>>79357188
>telling people that you have money
Shit nigger don't count your chickens just yet, we don't want you getting express kidnapped.
>>79357113
You bet i'll be here with the timestamp and pictures of Quito!
>>79357227
Fuck off bernie
>>79357188
Bien
>>79355441
>Venezuelan workers already have the factories, thats why theres such a low production output, ahkmed.
Nope, it's just bureaucrats and the state running things.
>>79357292
Good luck, dude. I really hope this stuff works out for you.
Do you have family in Venezuela, too? How are they doing?
>>79357205
40 usd/hour is like 7 millones of bsf per month. You can live fucking great, never have to worry about money.
>>79357278
His friend is in ecuador kek
>>79357298
Cant debate that, they are disguised as the proletariat though and fucking up things
>>79348921
>Muh no true Scotsman/moving the goalposts double fallacy
Every single time.
>>79357441
Yeah I just noticed Andy Ecuador.
Still though, don't do anything retarded like bragging that you're getting out of the country suddenly. Get everything ready, tell people an hour before you leave, get the fuck out.
>>79357205
>40 usd per hour
>moderate salary
Good one Thiago hahaha, I believe you
Kennedy, why'd you return the $30????
>half spic, 1/4 venezuelan
>one of my uncles is a taxi driver in Venezuela
>on his way home from a long day of work
>woman on the side of the road calls him over and practically begs for a ride to Maracaibo (big city over there)
>does the hour and a half trip for $$$ cos his family is poor af
>asks him to take a quick detour
>he does it regardless of the warning signs
>end up in a deserted route with a dead end near a land fill
>promptly gets jumped by 6 men in balaclavas with guns
>put a gun to his head, screaming at him incoherently
>strip him entirely naked
>he sees them put a gun to the lady's head and quietly usher her away
>he runs at the distraction towards the landfill
>they start shooting, screaming for him to give them the police detector supposedly in his car
>he makes it out by the skin of his teeth. Played dead and then made a run for it after they left
>rescued by an indigenous man after running for like 30 minutes
Shit like that happens on the daily. Basically Chavez ruined the country because he was a socialist dictator and then Maduro won, who was one of Chavez's mates basically. Tbh i dont get why they don't overthrow the government though? Like there are empty food shelves, no fucking toilet paper, etc. Should just riot and get it over with.
To the anon who gave the 30 bucks, i misclicked on "refuse this payment" because of my shitty small cellphone and my damn big thumbs :(
>>79357648
See: >>79357712
Just send it again.
>>79357665
I am from maracaibo man, its shit here
>>79357712
Resent
>>79357665
Riots are starting slowly, and shit bro, taxi drivers are getting killed like flies, easy to target or to scrap the car for parts, glad your uncle made it at least
>>79357665
hard to riot when you're starving
>>79357712
Clean that phone screen next time, you lucky this nigga was still online
>>79357205
>>79357637
Kek
>>79357665
Sounds like a plan for all the wannabe /k/ommandos around this board.
AUD but hope it helps.
Socialism, Marxism and communism kill.
>>79345974
Truly, socialism is a conspiracy against all freedom-loving peoples
>>79358226
>>79358223
>>79358151
>>79358122
>>79357976
>>79357900
>>79357815
>>79357758
>>79357712
Anti-socialist KEKS alert
Thanks a lot for the help anons! Captchas are fucking slow today thats why im so slow on posting
>>79356702
dat sword...
>>79358122
I was literally about to leave lol
OK time for me to head to bed.
Eugenio and Kennedy. You guys have my email if there's any problems.
I'll leave the thread open to check it in the morning.
Stay safe and good luck!
>>79357758
Pleasure teaming up with ya to help these guys out.
>>79358439
Godspeed anon
>>79358286
Go back to bed trudeau
Nice thread /pol/. Newsworthy desu
>>79358439
Godspeed anon
>>79358509
Trudeau is a neo-liberal. If you love capitalism so much you might like a little book called Mein Kampf.
>>79358536
Not until he makes it alive and finds a new life in Ecuador or wherever.
Though it'll just bring a horde of Venezs begging for money. Fortunately there have only been a few so far.
>>79358439
>Pleasure teaming up with ya to help these guys out.
Yeah. Hope he can make the most of it.
>>79358694
Its not easy to post in 4chan though, major (80%) isp is banned, average memezuelan cant into proxys and most dont use mobile phones for shitposting like myself.
>>79358630
Natsoc was alright, but commie socialism sucks bra
Wasn't the leader of the country a Busy driver or something or something before he came into power?
Don't get why you'd elect a bus driver of all people. I just hope their public transport was the best fucking thing out while they were rich kek
>>79358320
You should feel honored. Your country is edge itself.
>>79356842
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WE'RE FULL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79358940
He was chavez heir (fidel-raul style but no blood relationship), thats how he got elected, and he barely won by 300k votes.
>>79358835
>>79358694
Also most of the young venezs just worry about getting drunk, high and fucking bitches, thats why there are so many thieves, and maybe thats the main reason a real riot hasnt started, this generation doesn't give a shit about anything
>>79358835
>Natsoc was alright, but commie socialism sucks bra
Socialism is good
>>79358940
>America is so stupid! Electing rich dynasty families rather than common men, no wonder the elites control it
>LOL electing a bus driver! How stupid! You should elect a Ivy League lawyer from a well educated background like the Bushes or the Rockefellers.
>>79359161
Well said, i concur
>>79359011
>curved
>swords
>>79357665
Basically this: >>79357976
Most people are too busy doing an 8 hour line or working their asses off to even bother to riot.
Also, it only matters if shit goes down in Caracas. Other places, the government does not give a fuck.
>>79359250
He didnt get elected because he was muh proletariat bus driver either, he wad in the gubmnt already previous to holding presidential office (Chancellor), and chavez chose him as his heir, top BURGEOIS m8.
Because the Jews on the right are trying their hardest to make it fail on purpose. Don't be so bluepilled
>>79359351
>folded over 6 gorillion times
This kills the jap
>>79359351
>Katanas
>Weak feeble swords
>>79359535
>t. Bernie sanders donor
>>79349191
kek
>>79359535
THIS! Chavez is borrowing from his own people from money he created rather than borrowing from Chinks and Saudi banks which makes them dependent on someone else.
The CIA has fucked it up.
>>79358439
post their full names so i can denounce them and get them deported
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79359794
>El sebin Ecuatoriano
>>79359754
https://next.ft.com/content/18169fbe-33da-11e6-bda0-04585c31b153
Oy vey
this was nice
>>79358223
There was an option to send in any currency ....
>>79359794
Its not like i'm going illegal there bro lulz, the first thing i'm gonna save money for, is a work visa, i made my homework already
>>79359941
at least i expect you give the money back when you get on your feet, and most importantly, get the fuck back to venezuela when the socialist scum is overthrown.
you are not welcome to overstay your visit.
>>79359941
Oh shit is Chavez a sellout? Why was he friends with Gaddafi then?
>>79360200
Its not the same poster correa, look at the ids for fuck sake
Im staying here for now
>>79360139
you too. >>79360200
as long as you are legal, i don't give a fuck. stay as long as you are allowed. good luck.
>>79360201
Cause chavez was charismatic as fuck and so was gaddaffi, together they trolled bush jr. hardcore
It's a little confusing at least for me
There are some Venezuelan vlogs on YouTube and life seems normal
https://youtu.be/efHpk_N3q4w
They talk about robberies and food scarcity too, but everything seems to be normal just like in a shitty part of Mexico
>>79357125
are you a reservoir engineer?
>>79359351
Even our knifes are curved
>>79360423
>Oct 2015
>Walks around the nicer parts of Caracas
I kekd
>>79360435
Hes an electric eng
>>79360423
Sure, it's "normal" if you're middle class and make money. People who earn minimum wage (most of the population) are fucked.
>>79360405
But they were anti-establishment.
>>79360600
sure
>>79355218
>>79355306
Give me the details. I want to replicate your plan.
Where do you meet them, what do you tell them, etc
>>79360849
TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
>>79360591
>>79360941
Fuck my id changed
Another vlogger going shopping
https://youtu.be/cXyWuQ_cfF0
People make fun of him cause he's brave enough to go out with the camera but by his looks people may think he stole the camera
>>79357815
I don't want maracuchos to have to go through this, I like you guys :(
>>79357900
Yeah it's scary af. My two step cousins got arrested last year during a student protest and no one has heard of them since and a close family friend's kid got killed during a riot though. Shit is sad.
>>79359383
Ok sorry sorry, that was insensitive. Couldnt you immigrate to Colombia though? My abuela did that so she's safe there but my abuelo is one of those chavistas and refuses to budge.
>>79359351
>straight
>Sword.
>>79343287
Niggers
>>79361112
That nigga is trolling, and you can crearly see the supers are devoid of any basic consumer goods
>>79361155
Borders closed with colombia, you cant just walk over freely.
>>79361326
leave troll.
>>79361429
How am i trolling? Please explain
>>79343287
Here's the short version.
Venezuela is one of the largest oil producing countries on Earth. With the enormous windfall produced by that oil industry, a country like, say, Norway, would Nationalize part of the industry and use the money to build infrastructure, invest in businesses, and supply some safety to its people in the form of welfare, subsidized education, etc.
Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez did not do this. Instead he fostered the enormous monoculture economy and blew the rest of the money on gibs. Moreover the markets remained entirely unfree, so there was very little private-sector development of businesses and other industries, since everyone could just mooch indefinitely off the oilbux.
Then along came a spider, a new form of oil production called Fracking. Fearing the rise of this industry Saudi Arabia did what it normally never does, and flooded the oil market with cheap crude, smashing oil prices. Simultaneously Barack Hussein Obama kneecapped the American coal industry, handing enormous market share to American oil manufacturers. These factors contributed to a crash in oil prices to pre-2001 levels, and the result was that Venezuela's economy essentially halved in yield overnight.
Without any economy, infrastructure, education or free enterprise in place, Venezuela had no way to cope with this collapse, they had one trick and had been milking it for all it was worth for decades, but now that oil is worth less than water, they're fucked.
Maduro is also a total retard and didn't see this coming, so they took no meaningful steps to prevent it. The result is essentially the same as those Appalachian mining towns that literally only existed to dig up coal, but are now totally impoverished because the market dried up.
Btw, literally every economist saw this coming. We've been warning the leftists that it would happen for years, but retards like Noam Chomsky just buried their heads in the sand and said NUH UH NUH UH EBIL CAPITALISTS
>>79361155
>Couldnt you immigrate to Colombia though?
We've got our hands full with the 20 000 or so colombians that they deported last year.
>>79361326
Oh ok. Is it true the border patrol is just a murderous group of thugs and kill people trying to sell oil from venezuela to colombia?
>>79359754
>Implying other countries would lend money to socialist regimes.
You must be one of a kind.
>>79343287
Instead of choosing socialism utopia, they took real life socialism.
>>79361663
They just make money smuggling gasoline and other stuff throu the border, they are obviously murderous but making moneu easy is their true goal.
Remember gasoline is dirt cheap here and expensive in colombia.
>>79356505
You need a Helicopter Ride.
>>79361592
Theres still millions of you here, and we have never been bad with you guys
>>79361592
Tbh thats probably the best thing thay happened to the deported people
>>79361888
Right okay. Sounds like bad shit.
capriles shill are here again, i hope they do not post their pay pal account again for gibs me dat
>>79357665
Just like in México
>>79361937
>and we have never been bad with you guys
Yeah, sure, supporting FARC and ELN surely was just a prank amirite?
>>79362161
read the thread. they got funded already
now we wat for the flood of beggars that will try to get monis
>>79362365
a faggot shill asked for money, and an australian fell in the b8
>>79349684
Holy fuck. I have seen some shit.....then there is that ....fuck
>>79348881
>driving in Caracas
>ever
Come the fuck on, you know better than that.
"Venezuelans" using kike techniques to scam /pol/
>>79362254
Not at all, there's crime here alright, but we're in fucking heaven compared to Venenzuela.
>>79362161
>capriles shills
Yeah no, fuck that crypto jew faggot. Leopoldo is the only option and even then, they are all leftists in the end so fuck him as well.
Anything is better than Maduro though, that's for sure.
Austrian economics - Socialist economic calculation problem
https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem
>>79362861
wow, you are the first shill who does not say want marcos jimenez
>>79351084
>Entire country has a single main ISP
What a shithole