>Christians thinking they're superior to everyone else
>don't know they're going to the ninth circle of hell for pride (a form of treachery)
Atheists and men let the western world be destroyed with their pathetic consumer culture
Tip harder
God bless.
>>79303454
>consumer culture
Corporate America created Christian America.
>>79303666
welp, satan has spoken.
>>79303310
>Christians thinking they are superior
>Ninth circle of hell
wat?
>>79303310
daily reminder that dante literally made up everything in the inferno and it has nothing to do with any religion
>>79303847
Thinking you're morally superior to everyone = pride = treachery = frozen in ice for eternity with satan
>>79303666
>>79303777
Wtf is this shit?
>>79303777
Checked my man
>When insults don't stick, make shit up
>>79303884
Daily reminder that the writers of the bible literally just made up everything and it has nothing to do with real life
>>79303924
You are just being silly.
>>79303454
2 Tim 3:1-5
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
>>79304056
>>79304013
>>79303454
>Christians posting fedora images again because they can't defend themselves
Every time.
>>79303310
Looks like someone doesn't know about the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector.
14 year old atheist raus.
>>79303666
>>79303777
>>79303984
HOLY SHIT 3 RARES
>>79303777
Yes. The father of all lies. Thanks for reminding us
>>79304176
A random guy starts writing things that are obviously made up and I'm supposed to care enough to argue with you? Again, you are being silly.
Tbh, religious people in generalthink they are better than everyone else.
Why is it that atheists dont understand Christianity but Christians fully understand atheism?
99% of the shit atheists assume about Christianity is completely wrong.
>assuming the inferno is canon
>assuming hating sin and evil is wrong
>assuming you can tell someone else how their soul will be judged
I wouldnt so much dislike the Godless if they were more well-read.
>>79304176
>needing a defense against shitposting
Was this thread a joke just to have us dump a bunch of fedoras so you could save them?
Matthew 7:13
“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many."
>>79303310
>implying as fuck
Here's your (((you)))
>>79304496
Atheism is not 'no belief', it is the definitive belief that there is no God.
>>79304496
Atheists are the ones calling everyone stupid. That is some good projection.
1 Corinthians 15:33
Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character."
>9th circle of hell
Catholic bs
The only hell is second death.
And it's Catholics who think they are so much better than everyone else
A believer sees himself as underneath
>>79304975
These kind of people annoy me so much. The absent of belief is a belief for you? Go toss off, you wankstain fuck.
>>79303310
Dont forget idolatry, one of the greatest sins in the Bible in the form of the many crosses they adorn themselves and their churches in. Crosses are mentioned nowhere in the actual bible and people use them every day as effigies of worship.
Christianity has lost its way.
>>79303924
Ice...?
....are you confusing Dante's Inferno with mainstream Christian doctrine, anon?
>>79303924
>he gets his theology from Dante
>>79305429
>Christianity
Catholicism and orthodoxy you mean
Protestants have know this shit for centuries, yet apostolics still don't understand
>>79305285
It's not absence of belief, it is the definitive belief that there is no God.
Are all atheists this fucking stupid or what?
>>79303310
>ninth circle of hell
What kind of heathen belief is this?
God is a cunt.
>If you get triggered, the athiest win.
>>79303666
>>79303777
>>79304344
well i think it's pretty clear that Satan was definitely here. atleast someone is trying to tell us.
>>79305563
Whatever makes you feel right, you tosser.
>>79305433
>Dante Alighieri, a Rosicrucian from 1200 ANNO DOMINI
>Roman Church '"doctrine'"
>The TRUE Christian doctrine, as teached by Jesus Christ to 12 apostles.
CHOOSE
WISELY
>>79305750
Look, it's not my problem if you're too fucking thick to know what words fucking mean ya doss cunt.
2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
Truely god can not be proven nore denied beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Agonstics are the only people who speak from reality.
>>79303310
>Tells Christians about their religion
>don't know the ninth circle of hell is only a part in Dante's Inferno and isn't in their theology
>don't know that pride is a form of treachery, but doesn't mean you get put into the 9th circle because of it
>takes allegory literally
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to take your fedora
Good one, but why post such an edgy grill?
>>79305636
Catholics believe there are different levels of hell, and people who do different sins go to different levels. Catholics also believe some sins are unforgivable
Reminder heretics of catholicism: there is only one way to New Jerusalem and that is the blood of Christ, and the only hell is second death, not eternity of torture.
>>79305429
That's only Catholics and orthodox. Protestants don't use images. Furthermore Christianity is only against worshipping idols themselves not making images of Jesus
>>79303666
>>79303777
>>79303977
wtf is thi shit????
>>79306121
Matthew 12:31
And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
>>79306258
This
There is only one unforgivable sin, and that is rejection of the holy spirit.
>>79304227
what is so special about that last get?
>>79305837
Don't give any of that dictionary bullshit. Atheism literally means absent of belief in gods, go look that up.
I can understand people coming with your point of view and I hold nothing against Christianity, or Buddhism for that regard. As I see it there is nothing wrong with believing in anything as long as you are a moral human being.
I hold things against you personally, because you're an insufferable cunt. A vindictive little shit that hates everything that doesn't follow what you think.
>>79303310
>>Christians thinking they're superior to everyone else
Nice projecting you have there.
>>79306384
Are you a spastic or something?
>>79305429
>buttblasted iconoclasts
>>79303310
>Implying all Christians won't be suffering in the fire for denying the final word of god
>>79306554
>>79305857
>tfw when both of your religious enemys are equally retarded
Hail Odin! Hail Perun!
>>79306258
Literally proving how contradictory the bible is. And honestly, why wouldnt it be? It was wrote by goat hearders and people who were being opressed by taxation and corruption. The bible was neccesary for them. They invented god to give them hope during aome really bad times.
It was wrote by many different people over many generations. Perhaps if it had been wrote all by one person at one time it wpuod not be so contradictory.
>people try to claim Christians are just as bad if not worse than muslims
>>79304046
Wew, lad.
>>79306642
Sweet, so was mosses and iconoclast when he destroyed the golden calf because it was a form of idolatry?
God hates idols and the cross is one, deal with it.
>>79306554
I just hate though-police in all senses and applications.
But, I understand you're throat deep in propaganda anyway and all you can respond with is emotional bullshit arguments, didn't jesus and the bible tell you otherwise.
Are you throwing the first stone against people who don't think like you?
>>79306894
Christianity was modernised, it was tamed. Islam is not. Religion is none sence which is why with every time period it has to change to suit the people in that time period. Islam is just lagging behind.
>>79306872
It's just a manner of ancient speech you autist. Nice r/atheism rant though.
>>79307131
Do you have me confused with someone else?
I'm the person that informed you what the word 'atheist' means.
Either that, or you are a genuine 100% fucking spacker.
>>79303310
Wouldn't that be atheists? The fedora tipping variety tend to believe that they're superior to theists because of their "enlightenment"
>>79307028
>the crucifix is equivalent to the golden calf
Daily reminder that Jesus forgives all sin. The only unforgivable sin is not accepting him into your life.
>>79306872
>It was written by many different people
and yet there is archaeological evidence for many things in the bible, for the biblical accounts of Jesus, and the predictions of Jesus that were written by many different people years before Jesus was even born.
>>79303310
>the circles of hell were the work of an italian poet and not officially included in biblical or catholic canon at the time or ever
There's no way this isn't a bait post that I fell for hook, line, and sinker.
>>79307270
Yes yes. Absence of belief is belief. War is peace. Slavery is freedom.
All that. I think I read all your arguments in a book. It had a weird name only numbers in it. 1988 or something. Anyway the lesson was stop being totalitarian nutcase, you tosser.
>>79307702
You believe there is no god... Why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Stop being a drama queen.
>>79307702
Eh what?
Correcting you as to what words mean is somehow indicative of a totalitarian dystopic futuristic society?
Time to take your meds, Mikko, you are genuinely a 100% fucking loonball.
>>79303310
She's cute. Who is this?
>>79307982
>enlarge GIF
Ah. Never mind.
>>79307856
ebin u guessed my name :--Ddd
t. Mikko
>We represent God
>By saying God is a raving lunatic who gets aneurisms at you having anal sex with whoever you want among other lies we made up on the spot
There's another hell inside hell for you lot
The only way to make God look bad when He is good is defaming Him.
>>79304067
lol, didnt even know the bible said anything about that. I mean, I kinda had the notion, the idea but never looked it up.
pic related.
>>79307825
I don't think there is no god, well I don't think there is a christian version of god. But that is an argument for another day. We can converse with that in for decades.
The hard thing for me to comprehend is that people, like some brit I was responding to, think that absence of belief is a belief. It goes against my senses of logic just as much as you'd see people claiming 2+2=17.
>>79307856
The irony is palpable.
Please tell me more on what words mean while not being a totalitarian.
>>79308262
Read your bible Anon. There are a grate many thing in it worth knowing and you can judge its merits for yourself. Do not let the rantings of others deter you from seeking your own understanding.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
>>79308536
>Read your bible
Especially jeremiah 8:8 wherein it is discussed that the law was changed by functional retards, which is further proven by the fact that not every bible translation informs us of this very thing in jeremiah 8:8.
And if bible versions are this playful with words, I cannot imagine how playful with your soul the people who wrote them are going to be.
>>79303310
dumb reactionposter
>>79308818
OMGZZ00RZZZ words have meanings!!!111
I'm sorry that you find it 'totalitarian' that words actually have defined meanings and that you can't just go around changing them to suit yourself.
Have you tried fumblr or plebit? They may be more in agreement with you.
>>79308872
I like this one.
"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
>>79307307
Im sorry for blowing holes in your doctrine, you only have the leaders of the modern church to thank for these miss steps. At least Jehovahs Wittnesses dont use the cross and they actually continue jesus ministry work. They have it more right than any other Christian religion.
>>79309106
Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
>>79308471
The simple absence of belief should render all your contributions to this conversation (on the subject of God's existence) moot and worthless
>>79303310
that's my face when Christians don't understand the religion is allegory
Also the finest mystery religion if you understand it correctly
>>79309235
"Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."
Is the one I have but I think you refer to Romans 1:28
>>79307825
I don't believe there is no god. I just fail to see evidence of him existing. When such an evidence will be found, i will gladly accept it. Live after death is pretty fucking awesome, being atheist depresses me.
>>79307331
>the only unforgivable sin is to not understand that he forgives all sin.
>christians...
>>79305453
i doubt he actually believes it
>>79309055
>that you can't just go around changing them to suit yourself.
Glad you agree. Shall we stick to dictionary definition of atheism then as absence of belief in gods.
Good enough?
Romans 1:28-30
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
These three give a good understanding of people these days.
>>79309446
Good luck relying on Science to ever be revealing God
It's only meant to address physical things
>>79303924
>Dante Alighieri was anything other than a satirical poet
Wow, you're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
>>79309540
OK, well do this the long way, for the hard of thinking.
What would you label someone who holds a definitive belief that there is no God or Gods?
>>79309540
Who gives a fuck if you "lack a belief"
You couldn't know in any case
>>79309446
> pidorashka wants some PROOFS
>>79309270
I can see that, I like the christian faith, I was born and raised within it. My problem wasn't faith or religion based and while I don't personally agree with everything christianity has done, I see it has done much good in the world and continues to do so.
My problem was that he stated; "thing that is not, is." Purely logical annoyance really.
>>79309446
search yourself, meditate.
Today I fell into a trance because I was tired, I used to meditate (also had some expiriences there, but not such a strong one, I think the Gods try to help me back on my feet, because I am at quite a down now).
Well, I literally saw the equasions of my neighbor right before me!!! Closed eyes and towards the table, right before that I saw a proud female eye(not that I could asociate with some girl I know), clear as it was real, with all details that I examined accuratly.
That ofc doesnt prove the existance of Gods, that is astral projection.
But your senses for the Gods and related beings become more aware if you meditate.
>>79303310
>ninth circle of hell
dantes inferno isnt based on christianitys layout for the afterlife bruh. its literally just some shit he made up to talk shit satire style. he created levels to depict how much he hated some people
i mean for fucks sake lucifer is depicted with 3 faces eating people
>>79309930
>gullible amerifat is gullible
>>79309884
>What would you label someone who holds a definitive belief that there is no God or Gods?
An Ideologue
>>79310294
Well, I'd have to say that you would be incorrect upon that count, because that would tell me nothing about their belief system, or their thoughts on the existence or otherwise of God or Gods.
Please do feel free to try again.
>>79310067
So why do you yourself refuse to believe in God
I see all these supposedly Christian nations that have just morphed into the most disgusting thing I can think of: atheistic scum
You all think and sound exactly the same, and yet you have no redeeming value
>>79310236
>answer to a bait comment then an acctual advice
da fak is wrong with people?
>>79310738
are these flags really suposed to be crusifixes?
>>79309676
>Good luck
Thanks mate.
Science never will perfect at explaining even physical things. We observing gravity for ages, yet we don't know what it is actually. We don't know the nature of dark matter/energy, the stuff that makes up vast majority of observable universe. Hell, we can't even fully explain the regular matter on quantum level. But without science we will know fucknothing at all.
>>79310499
>an adherent of an ideology, especially one who is uncompromising and dogmatic
Sounds about right. Even the scientists aren't 100% certain of how life began. Dawkins is a curseword for you, but even he doesn't know everything on how evolution happens, he says so himself, no one is absolute certain. And it's hard science to uncover what happened 3 million years ago, I don't blame them for not being certain.
Claiming you are, that would make them ideologues. Similar to you. But on the other side of the fence.
>>79310956
Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Cross_flag
>the design originates as a Christian cross, and as such ultimately derives from 13th-century designs in use during the Crusades
>>79303310
hayley a cute!
>>79311133
OK, this has to be some kind of chatbot.
Would you say that GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW is a good thing?
>>79311130
>But without science we will know fucknothing at all.
Unlikely
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-refuting_idea#Verification-_and_falsification-principles
>>79310845
Your advice giving me headache, sorry.
Who else here /Cultural Christian/ ?
>>79311567
but I am serious
I cant say it in a non-edgy way, one instantly sounds edgy if talking about this topic.
>>79311177
>>79310956
See here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Cross_flag#cite_note-Andrew_Evans-4
>>79310738
>refuse to believe in God
This is a wrong idea. I don't, I can't, refuse the belief in god. It's just something I don't care about. In my daily life, I care about gods and faith as much as you do about mosquitoes.
>>79311811
I had a father feeding me all this half-esoteric stuff throughout my childhood. I'm just too sceptical of this. Now i'm 30, my vision of the world sitting too deep in me.
>>79312118
Well you ought to care more about it my friend
You're dismissing it without properly considering the implications of having vs not having faith in Christ
>>79311296
I'm not certain if the fucking asshole juncker within EU parliament is jewish, but if you include him and his cronies as honorary-jewish. Then gas them.
>>79303310
Hahaha , people who aren't Christians thinking they can speak for Christians , judge them on doctrine or claim they understand religious doctrine.
>>79312351
Start by examining what you believe to be the chances of things being as they are by accident, or by design.
>>79312362
>>79312118
Do you understand what I'm telling you?
>>79306121
The description in this pic is shit and does not describe Dante's Inferno at all
>>79305429
Mate are you forgetting the Crucifixion?
>>79312383
Finn you must be some kind of special autism.
Quoting 1984 while inserting your own autism into it.
But you are right in a sense. A person who grew up in a society where the concept of God or religion didn't exist would be an atheist. Of course they don't know they are an atheist, because their society has never come up with God and religion and what not. But what the britanon was getting at is you have a choice whether to believe in God or not. You have decided you do not believe in God, and that is your belief, it's still a belief. People who do not believe in climate change or evolution hold the belief that they are not real. Maybe this is just a language issue. However some atheists take this to the next step and make atheism basically like a religion, go on r/atheism, read about atheism. For them it is definitely a belief.
>>79303884
Well other then embody how the majority of Christianity (Catholics) at the time and now view the underworld.
>>79312362
I just really can not. As much as you can't believe 2+2=7. I'm wired in a way that doesn't allow me to do it. Even when people dear to me die, I can't pretend to believe. I can see how people do believe and it helps them.
but I can not do that.
Maybe I am deficient, then. But that doesn't even bother me. I'll just try to be a good and honest small human being while I can.
>>79312983
I'm fairly certain it's a bot, m8ee.
>>79313345
Not all your beliefs are as certain and definite as 2+2=4
Remember that. You will always, and obsessively doubt them
>>79303310
i got in a car accident and died, got denied entrance to heaven and was sent straight to hell from there. its pretty much earth and it isn't a big deal. woke up 3 months later in a hospital in new jersey.
protip: if you work hard and arrive at the gates breathing heavy they have to let you in
>>79312351
Yes, I am also russian. And my parrents also watched "Extrasensy", I laughed at them.
I was stunned for 1 week after my first incident.
Seriously mate, if you are depressed being an atheist follow the mditation on this site:
joyofsatan.com
To you, it will look edgy af.
Just imagine that you are a leftist visiting a NS site. Contridictary new views allways look edgy.
Also, dont listen to christians.
The witchcraft is well accepted in Russia and other countries that dont have so much murican influence.
Us Russians are still romantic and faithfull.
>>79307236
No its not burger brain
>>79313744
You didnt die just because your heart stops. When you are dead your brain is dead and that's final.
>>79306872
You've got it all figured out. What a dazzling intellect.
>>79309147
>Mormons
>Christian
>more right about Christian doctrine than actually CHristians
ENDLESS CELESTIAL SEX
I don't believe in any gods or religions, so I guess I'm an atheist. But I don't call myself one. Most who do are those degenerate assholes who go to atheist meetings (church) to discuss their beliefs, which is moronic. I simply don't concern myself with the thoughts of there being a god and go about doing stupid, meaningless rituals to appease them. I also don't run around and tell other people they're idiots for believing in whatever it is they do. Freedom of relgion, or lack there of. That's America. Except Islam, kill them all. They can't integrate into our society.
>>79313732
I'm not going as far to state there is no god. That seems rhetoric to me. But what I am saying is that absence of belief is not a belief. That is a thing I am certain about.
muh bang big
>>79314192
But your "absence of belief" is just cowardice to assert a stance on the matter. It doesn't say absolutely anything about the matter we're discussing
>>79303310
>think you're really righteous?
>think you're pure of heart?
>Well, I know I'm millions times more humble then thou art
>>79314040
my c3 shifted and my heart stopped, broke 3 ribs and 2 of them went through my lungs. head went through windshield and cracked my skull open causing multiple head traumas. i was brain dead and recovered. was in coma for 3 months after that. had to learn how to breathe and walk all over again when i woke up.
>>79305652
T-t-t-triggered!!!! kappa
>>79303310
>op's post is a perfect example of excessive pride and condescension
I humbly point out you are going to join those Christians, faggot.
>>79303310
Meanwhile, I get to chill in Limbo with the great western philosophers.
>>79314516
Yes it is. And to you I sound like some leftist tumblr faggot claiming xir is a pronoun, while I'm speaking of the difference in how not believing x is not believing.
There is nothing I can say that doesn't just make me more of a tumblr faggot in this conversation. You have me by the balls. But honestly do you think that an absence of an apple is an apple?
>>79314991
Oh, they don't have to be held to those moral standards. But they can make hold the Christians too them and feel superior. Of course the Christian will feel a need to defend himself because he has some integrity, but he should realize he is responding to a bait thread.
>>79315221
I know the difference between Weak and Strong Atheism mate
I'm just saying Weak Atheism is cowardice and purely a personal stance that has nothing to do with knowing or not knowing anything
>>79314075
Lol you must be trolling. Mornons and JWs are not the same.
>>79315340
Reminds me of
>>79315402
Do people actually choose to be atheists? That seems like pretty fucking stupid choice to make. I'd be happier by just believing in christianity, instead of this cynical husk that I am.
>>79315801
>Do people actually choose to be atheists?
Often not consciously. But always when they claim there is not God, they are Strong Atheists
>That seems like pretty fucking stupid choice to make. I'd be happier by just believing in christianity, instead of this cynical husk that I am.
Welcome brother. Remember (Romans 8:28)
>>79315801
They don't choose to be anything, except for the self-righteous degenerate cunts that push their atheism in your face. Whatever makes you happier in life is what matters. People demand proof for or against religions and there isn't any. There's no more proof for christianity than there is for the nordic gods, old roman gods, zoroastrianism, hindu, etc. Actual atheists just never pick a religion to simply feel good about themselves and explain things they don't understand.
>out in the middle of a desert wasteland with a group of people
"Hey Dan, I found this path that leads to a fucking OASIS!"
"No you didn't, it leads to a hole in the sand."
"Uh dude I can see a bunch of people frolicking around the water, just turn your head."
"Nope. It's a mirage."
"Well can we at least walk in that direction so you can find out for yourself?"
"Nah, it's too hot to go anywhere. I'm gonna kill Jeff and use his carcass for shade"
"There are FUCKING TREES over there."
"Nah, you're delusional"
"Okay I'm gonna go bring you some water so you can stop trying to murder people"
>comes back with water, everyone's dead except Dan
"Fucking idiot."
"HEY CHECK YOUR FUCKING SUPERIORITY COMPLEX YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN ME OR ANYONE ELSE YOU FUCKING BIGOT!!!"
>>79316142
> But always when they claim there is not God, they are Strong Atheists
I'd say that is weak atheism. Demagoguery really. Fighting tooth and nail on the issue no one can prove ever.
Strong atheist being people who are apathetic of the issue.
We're all weak here.
>>79306944
So is this the only way Christians can argue against athiests?
You forgot to give that pic a fedora too btw
>>79303666
>>79303777
Praise kek!
Lay down your current beliefs you christian fucks and beg kek for forgiveness
>>79317163
Strong vs Weak - as in how strong the claim is
Why would you want to prove God my mate?
>>79317344
Dubs further confirms Kek is the one true way.
>>79303454
fpbp
>>79315553
That's the image I was trying to find while posting that, thanks anon
>>79315801
I feel you. I am not naturally drawn to believing in God, but I have a feeling God exists and just because we morals can not see proof of God does not prove anything. I guess you could say I "force" myself to believe but even then I find it hard to go to church and pray. I guess I would be a weak atheist if I did not know any better, but our universe just works together too well to be created by anything other than a God. Even atheists who claim to believe in "science" would know how little we know if they actually looked at science. “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you." Personally I think we are in a computer simulation, and God is the programmer of the simulation. I've had that belief for a while and the fact that someone as smart as Elon Musk believes it too somewhat validates it for me. It would make perfect sense too, if you think about it. Of course a vast processing power would be requires to run our universe. But our universe is limited by the speed of light. Even processors now can not be too big because of the speed of light. The speed of light is so constant that time itself will slow down so the speed of light can remain constant. Our current understand of free will seems to suggest that it doesn't exist. Scientists have done studies that show that we make decisions before we are actually aware we made them. Free will is an illusion, and we are simple conscious observers. The belief of free will not existing fits in with the computer simulation hypothesis because if we were simulated, how would we have free will? You could simulate and illusion of free will, but how do you give a bag of flesh kept alive by chemical reactions and controlled by chemicals and electrical pulses free will?
>>79317565
I don't even know what strong and weak atheism is. Really. this is the first time I see these things.
What is strong atheism then?
>>79303310
>hell for pride
>God is narcissistic asshole
>demands world to worship him
>makes man in his image
>wait no you can't be like me that's wrong
kek
>>79317758
>That's the image I was trying to find while posting that, thanks anon
No probs m8
>Our current understand of free will seems to suggest that it doesn't exist. Scientists have done studies that show that we make decisions before we are actually aware we made them. Free will is an illusion, and we are simple conscious observers.
Are you talking about this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_free_will#The_Libet_experiment
>but how do you give a bag of flesh kept alive by chemical reactions and controlled by chemicals and electrical pulses free will?
Assuming we are *not* in a simulation, why would you trust those same minutely determined chemicals to tell you that they are indeed purely chemicals and electrical impulses? What makes it true, if we cannot but know certain things, ONLY in a certain way, determinably
>>79317865
A strong atheistic claim. As in "there IS no God" rather than a weak (a "lack of") one "I do not assert that there is a God"
So why would you want to prove God?
>>79306870
Are you going to thank the Catholic monks that documented the practices and stories of your dead religion?
>>79318713
Thanks for answering. This strong/weak claims seems rather arbitrary to me. But now I can see where people are coming from. I honestly have never came across those terms, ever.
Also.
My god fucked your mother.
I blame the tv preachers constantly begging for money, while wearing 10 thousand dollar suits for the rise of atheism. Those shitheads did more damage than any pseudo intellectual has.
>>79319271
>Also.
>My god fucked your mother.
Are you ok fellow robot? What are you doing on /pol/?
>>79318767
>be christianity
>roll into europe
>destroy culture
>destroy artefacts
>kill people
>force your false religion on the remaining population
>ask to be thankfull that some monks that knew what was happening decided to record something
>>79316983
>Be Dan
>be stuck in desert wasteland with a group of people
>some dipshit thinks he sees an oasis, in a desert wasteland
>the heat's getting to the poor guy
>explain to him that it's a mirage and it's very unlikely to be an oasis
>tells me he's going to bring back water to prove it
>get worried, go find him
>dipshit took off all his clothes and tried to drink sand, his skin is purple from the sun and he's half-dead
>lean in close as he dies and hear, "Fucking idiot."
>"sure thing, pal." have to leave him, no time to bury the body
>>79319738
>The buthurt is evident
Now another Abrahamic offshoot is gonna sort the rest of you pagans out
>>79319271
No one uses those terms, I'm not even sure they are "the" terms, but the difference is clear when you talk to different atheists. The "there is no God" crowd are generally fuckwits just following the herd
>>79319501
<Beep boop>
Conservatives might be right
<beep>
<beep>
pstree $(ps aux | grep FinfAG | awk '{print $2}') -p -a -l | cut -d, -f2 | awk '{
<BEEP>
What is your bidding my master.
>>79303310
>dumbass OP thinks he's smart
>doesn't know that Dante's Inferno is fan fiction
>>79320211
At least you have a sense of humour
>>79319891
not really, who is pagan today will not get sorted out.
These people will either group up in terrororganizations or what is more likely, witch is also my plan:
Escape into the woods(Taiga most likely) or find pic related sort of regions, we cant fight with our army of leftists.
>>79320580
>pagan
aren't you just LARP-ing doe?
You won't go to hell if you believe in Christ and that He, and He alone, is the reason you won't. Pride has nothing to with that.
U saying that what you do or don't do decides if you go to heaven or not? So Christ died for nothing?
>>79320980
No, I am not into roleplaying, at all, I prefer reality, its more fun.
How come you think that paganism is just fun and games?
>>79321205
So... you don't really believe your gods exist
>>79306121
>and the only hell is second death, not eternity of torture
Got a verse for that? To my understanding all mentions of Hell in the Bible are about suffering, pain and fire.
>>79306133
Exodus 20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
But making images of Jesus (who is in Heaven) is totally fine right ??
>>79318559
Well I know I can think, so I exist in some way. What I do not know if my thinking is just chemistry and reaction to external stimuli or something that is more controllable than that. We have some technology now that helps us see the true nature of things, but you are right we do not really know despite how much we examine, if we have been doing it wrong the whole time. Also I was talking about that experiment and also further experiments which try to prove it. None of them are without their problems though and we should not jump to accept them as reality. I just think they would fit in with the idea of the computer simulation.
there is no god no one will save you now
>>79309446
Do you proof you love you parents? You have proof you love your dog? If you walk by your perfect match tomorrow on the street do you love her that second?
God wants to be loved, not acknowledged. If He shows proof that He is real people will not instantly love Him. You have to have faith.
>>79313744
>Works based salvation
>Not just basically flipping of Christ
Pick one.
Cool that you died for me and all...but because I helped that old lady that one time, I'm going through the gates.
>Catholics unironically believe this
>>79321954
I just think the contemporary Western infection with this idea is essentially pic related tbphwy
>>79321553
Ofc they exist! I felt their presence once.(and ofc its not some strong man with a hammer etc. Gods hard to understand)
Did you mean the theater-plays at the celebrations, wehn you said LARP?
I dont consider these as roleplays, they are theater-plays.
>>79322945
*Gods are hard to understand
>>79322945
So you call yourself a pagan in public?
Isn't it a bit autistic (no offence)
>>79323167
I call myself a pagan.
What is the issue?
>>79323514
In public?
>>79323573
If it comes up, yes.
>>79323167
german fags dont care, they tolerate everthing.
I also allways explain it (not the links to NatSoc though).
A lot of people think that I am an edgy autist, but that is because I am a nationalist, not because of the religion. I also carry pic related and not a Thors hammer, because the hammer is missused by brainfucked leftist scum.
>>79303666
>he ignored rule 2
>>79323745
And you're not a teenager
>>79324081
I am 20.
I really want to learn the old ways, I dont want to make my own religion.
Also, as I said in my comments before, its not because VIKINGZ SO KUUL, I really had some expiriences and I droped my atheism.
>>79324413
Describe those experiences. And how many gods did you feel
>>79324611
1st
>Sitting in my room, listening to atmospheric metal.
>Wind on my arms and face.
>check window
>check door both closed
>panic
>curiosity
>look straight forward
>looks like vibration in the air, nothing clear
>after some time wind gets stronger
>little panic but I let it come
>I feel it right in front of me
>feels like it is sucking out the life out of my
>feels like I cant breath
>PANIC, take of headphones
>confusion,fear
>curiosity wins after 2-3 minutes
>keep listening to that music
>wind again
>I also was talking to "IT" dont remember what I have said
>comes closer
>again
>I let it come
>starts to feel really good
>incredibly good feeling, undescribable, a little like a smooth airflow inside me but not quite.
>this keeps going for the next 2-3 minutes
>the spirit leaves, I felt it flying away.
more?
I also have talked to a guy, he felt similar wind.
>>79325566
oh forgot to say
I was stunned by that expirience for a week after I finally rejected atheism.
>>79325566
Ok buddy, you have fun with your Satanic rituals there
>>79303310
Who is this cum drum?
>>79325981
you dont need to believe me,
try the meditations on this site
joyofsatan.com
but you need to sommit seriously, if you are able to, you will at least feel your energys.
bye.
>>79303777
>1 post by this id
>>79326341
Take care mate
>>79303310
You are in Hell. Pain, suffering, fire, and brimstone are all available.
>>79325566
Reading that i remembered something, when i was younger i tried meditation/relaxation.
One day i was in the bed hearing an audio, it was the sound of brushes when you remove the paint in a glass with water.
Then, i swear for my life, i saw a light ( i had the eyes close ofc) i felt fear and it dissapeared.
It happened like 5-6 times and i didn't saw the light again.
I was scared but very relaxed at the same time.
I'm not an atheist, but Yahweh/Allah is a piece of shit god that got to big for his britches. Motherfucker has three religions and pits them against each other. Then Christians and Muslims alike have the nerve to tell everyone else their gods are evil or aren't real. Shit, my god didn't demand I kill the unbelievers, yours did.
There is no goddess but the goddess, and she's my godess.
>>79325566
So you perceived something you could not possitively id and it totally is the god that you pictured on your mind.
>>79303666
>>79303777
>>79303310
As a satanist pride is the strangest thing to have as a sin
>satanists believe the 7 sins are actually positive
Pride is the sin that holds them together
It's so stupid to say it's a bad thing same as all other sins
>>79325566
Wow something weird happend while I was listening to this type of music I linked to this very specific religion. It must be that one specific God from that specific religion.
You are literally this.
