Consider the following for those of you that think Assad is the good guy or the lesser evil. The Syrian government is responsible for 94% of the civilian deaths accumulated thus far in the Syrian civil war.
>>79290593
the issue is creating a power vacuum by destabilizing a regime, no matter how "evil" creates worse problems than just waiting for its leader to die.
>Syrian Network for human rights
>reliable source
try harder. Leaf.
>>79290593
If Assad is killing that many Arabs he is the good guy in my book
>>79290672
The current problems in Syria is due to the overhandedness of the regime in subduing rebellion. ISIS is ISIS because of the regime.
>>79290593
Sure lol
>>79290809
Actually it's a pretty reliable source considering the war is still going on. When the war ends the facts will more or less remain the same in who did the most killing.
We should probably stoke a civil war in Libya and remove Gaddafi while we're at it since he's a heavy-handed dictator. Surely that will bring peace and stabilization to the region.
>>79290815
I never thought about it that way. Thanks greatest ally!
>>79290894
Well the main problem I guess is that muslims compete to see who is most muslim rather than just having harmony between factions like american or israeli jews where the orthodox and reform hate each other but don't kill each other.
>>79290593
>rebels are counted as civilians
And who's a "civilian" anyway? It's like MSM here labeling various terrorists as civilians, since they're actually ARE civilians and not official members of any armed forces.
I'd like to see how many of those killed are fighting age males and how many are the elderly, women and children.
>>79290992
This doesn't negate the fact that the Assad government is responsible for 94% of civilian casualties.
>Imagines 200 000 more "doctors and engineers" in Europe
Praise Assad.
Disappointed by Russians, they really should step up their game. Moar thermobarics, thermate.
>>79290978
Post their methodology; how did they come up with the statistics?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syrian-observatory-for-human-rights-is-a-propaganda-front-funded-by-the-eu-its-objective-is-to-justify-pro-democracy-terrorism/5331072
Syrian network for human rights is ran by one guy out of London. Literally a joke
>>79290672
Yes, because extend haggling with heavily armed men and occasional shootouts between them with mostly light to medium weapons is worse than facing a government that can muster air power, artillery support and chemical weapons and which regularly employs them against civilian populations.
>>79290978
>Actually it's a pretty reliable source
One guy in an apartment in London is not reliable.
>>79291090
Right, so let's remove him and let the moderate freedom fighters for peace take over.
>>79290809
>Syrian Network for human rights
Can i be Marsian Observatory for Alien rights?
>>79291195
More reliable than /pol/tards tbqh
>>79290672
Exactly. It's their civil war, we shouldn't support anyone. West should intervene ONLY if one state attack other state and leave civil wars alone.
>>79290593
it depends what you define as civilians
>>79291074
>I'd like to see how many of those killed are fighting age males
Zero because they're all in Europe.
>>79291173
A leaf has been destroyed by a leaf news agency.
pack it up. thread is over
>>79290593
So the government is winning?
All of those "civilians" ay, what a shame.
And I'm 100% sure the hippies doing this report are using a solid methodology and not just swanning around going "the horror the horror!".
>>79290672
Second responder, but the government is the source of instability in Syria.
>>79291367
fuck off latvia, you know dick about geopolitics. It's all about your guy winning, and you're god damn right all the big boys will be backing their guy. You think if the west doesn't intervene, the others won't either? lol
>>79291415
>500,000 deaths so far in Syrian civil war
It's pretty accurate that some 200,000 of those total deaths outlined in the OP would be civilians and the rest military/fighter.
>>79291367
There woudnt be civil war if west didnt instiage it.
Radical muslims funding *khm*
Snipers shooting civilians in the crowd *khm*
The playbook didnt change since Cold War and played exactly this way in dozen countries in last 10 years, most recently Ukraine. WIth Arab Spring, its not just West though, its Turkey and Saudis/Katar.
>>79291340
The same /pol/tards who have confirmed kills in the war?
>>79290978
>acshually
>>79290593
civilian is a codeword for islamist. ISIS are counted as civilians.
>>79291595
>Krokodil user
Conspiracy tards especially from Russians like you who watch RT always make me laugh.
>>79290593
That 200K is logistical support for the other factions you see listed, so it's completely justifiable.
>>79291552
>you know dick about geopolitics
Says American. You probably cant even find Syria on map. The corrupt elites of your country play your resources around the world for personal gain, while the tools like live the consequences.
>>79290593
You can draw this kind of pictures with any numbers and they all be as reliable as this. The guy who spew this out is a retard and was caught by had many times.
>>79291653
>200,000 ISIS members
Sure thing Hanz. /pol/ needs to learn some compassion and humility while they're at.
>>79290593
>>79291705
Says Proxy Leaf that posted completely made up statistics and thinks anyone would take him seriously.
>>79291795
>there is only one islamist group in syria
canadian education
>>79290593
>hide in cities habitated by civilians
>the regime needs air support to actually advance
>air support kills civilians
>le evil dictator
the graphic may be true but it's out of context to make assad look bad
weak bait
>>79290593
because terrorist groups are known for their impeccable record keeping right? Retarded
>>79291861
In the end Assad will not be vindicated as he has the most civilian blood on his hands, regardless of the context.
>>79291540
>america, saudi arabia, israel fund isis and arm them to topple assad in syria
>idiot thinks the assad government is the source of instability
>>79291705
seriously, shut the fuck up; you posted made up bullshit and got called the fuck out on it
>>79291985
Ironic delusional statement, seeing as most Syrian civilian population lives in Assad controlled areas and supports his campaign to get rid of terrorists attacking them.
>>79291576
in certain areas those "civilians" are isis friendly or "moderate rebels" themselves
>>79291985
The Allied forces killed a metric fuckton of civilians and no one cares
>>79290593
Kill yourself you fucking shill
>>79290978
No it's not.
It's not a network.
It's one guy in the basement of Coventry UK with ties to rebels.
It has nothing to do with ''Human Rights''.
It's not an organisation.
Assad should put bombs on auction. You offer money for a bomb type, and then choose the inscription and place of delivery. You get video.
>Thermobarics on Raqqa mosques
>Idlib/Aleppo bazaar thermate submunition
>>79291756
>commie talking about corrupt elites
yeah (you) would know. Our government uses our resources to secure our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. How's your miserable country? You russians are brutish idiots
>>79290593
>a government killing muslims
good
>>79292621
One thing i can tell your goverment is far suprior than ours is propaganda - after all it managed to create 240 millions of brainwashed idiots like you, who actually believe it.
>>79291985
i didn't say that he will be vindicated, it's obvious that the US will keep trying to desestabilize syria, I was telling that you can't consider assad as evil for the death of those civilians without actually considering it's context
>>79290593
>What is a civilian to them?
This is the question you need to do.
>>79290593
>armed """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""civillians""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>79292381
not the same thing
>>79292381
Different organization, Amerifriend. lrn2read
The image cites the Syrian Network for Human Rights, not the Syrian Organization.
>>79290593
>canada
and you faggots think we're the worst shit posters
>>79291607
I will never get over the fact /pol/ actually got some shitskins killed via internet.
Gorilla warfare copypaste is outdated now.
>>79292757
i'm sitting pretty over here faggot. The value of all my shit continues to sky rocket. All while blowing up mudslimes in the mid east. Shits cash. Oh and those "corrupt elites" personal gain often helps out our country. Like taking oil. Nice and cheap over here.
Keep telling yourself all americans are stupid. Should make you feel better. You certainly prefer it to the truth: most americans are smart and very, very well off
>>79292934
The OP isn't a shitposter, he's a propagandist shill
>>79293103
>Oh and those "corrupt elites" personal gain often helps out our country. Like taking oil.
It never helps out your country, the shit they do fucks america over for their own selfish ends
what delusional fantasy world do you fucking live in
>Syrian Network for Human Rights
A known group that advocates for rebellion against the rightful King of Syria, the Lion Bashar al-Assad.
Those numbers mean literally nothing.
>>79293103
those "corrupt elites" would kill you in a heartbeat if it suites their plans.taking benefits from the situation could easily turn into horror
>>79293180
they arent mutually exclusive
>>79293259
>never helps out our country
lol. just because someone does something selfishly doesn't mean it can't benefit other people. Ever read the wealth of nations?
>>79293382
these "corrupt elites" have no face. Nobody knows who they're talking about. Be specific.
>>79292998
Please explain further.
>>79290593
>implying that killing muslims is bad
Clearly the civil war in Syria is completely organic just like every other coup in the middle east.
>>79293457
come on man the whole "da jooz runnin da baaangs" is far from a meme.see their presidents and you see the evil.do you forget operation northwoods or mk-ultra?these people are ruthless and definitely not your pals.
>>79293695
northwoods was started by the DoD (deparment of defense), and it was rejected. Mk-ultra is a meme
>>79293695
more people should be FOR taking cuba and kicking out the corrupt cunts there, then the govenment wouldn't have to try blowing up its people for support
>>79293457
Just because they do it selfishly doesn't mean it helps americans or you.
Fucking christ you ignoramus, they've pissed away america's image in the world, you're one of the most hated nations, they constantly fuck up and lose their shitty power plays overseas, and they want nothing more than to turn you into a slave.
They're fucking over the entire country for their selfish pursuits and morons like you are going to have to live with the fallout. Possibly the very literal fallout.
I see that shilling is going at full force today.
Assad & Putin are the good guys. Anyone who opposes them is evil. It's really just as simple as that.
>>79294289
blowing up muslims is not selfish pursuits. lots of the west is helping out. yeah hillary had a shit foreign policy and now ISIS is bigger than ever, but muslims will muslims without us there you know. Taking out saddam and gadaffi was good. You don't want muslim regimes getting any bigger
>>79294460
provide arguments
>>79294032
i know it was rejected but the fact alone that they thought of killing their copatriots says everything you need to know about them.
>>79294135
> the corrupt cunts there
is your government consisting of angels or is it because of them being comnunists?
>>79294580
merican gubment hates commies, esepcially ones right off our borders who tried to let soviets install a gigantic missile base there. and yeah I agree they shouldn't be trying to blow up it's civilians, CIA FBI everything is out of control, especially the CIA. nobody governs them, they're in control of themself. scary shit. That said, they know exactlyyyy what they're doing, they're securing the nation, fucking with foregin countries (to our benefit, believe it or not), generally being bad ass mother fuckers
>>79290593
> Syrian Network for Human rights
Run by a British Saudi buddy who will lose his job if Assad stays in power
Nice try
>>79290593
(((Syrian Network for Human Rights)))
First, there's nothing wrong with slaughtering muslims and second, you cannot trust this organization, it's obvious that it's a western-made propaganda organization. Look the numbers, ISIS killed 2196 people?
Do you really believe that?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2736764/Marched-deaths-Sickening-ISIS-slaughter-continues-250-soldiers-captured-Syrian-airbase-stripped-led-desert-mass-execution.html
They kill hundreds, thousands even of people all at one, but they've killed only 2196 civillians? Kek. Russia killed civillians? What? Not only that, but Russia killed nearly 2k civillians?
It doesn't matter, cause Germany invited more than a million, a few million Syrians are currently in Europe, who cares how many died, you're taking a lot more than Assad could possibly "kill".
Even if the Assad government killed that many people, they were not civillians, but rather opposition, but I doubt it, if Assad's regime could kill that many people they wouldn't call Russia for help.
>>79294537
How is blowing up muslims helping america at all?
You aren't getting oil out of Syria, you aren't even getting oil out of Iraq. You've wasted trillions of dollars on these wars and what have you got to show for it? Universal hatred by every other country on the planet? A monstrously corrupt political system full of selfish fuckwits who want nothing more than to disarm you and steal everything of value you own? Unstable nations in the middle east no longer ruled by iron-fisted dictators that have now allowed militant muslims to spread across the entire planet committing terrorist acts everywhere they go?
People like you are the very real enemy. You're the idiots that enable the flagrant abuses committed by the elites in America, the idiots that blindly support them even when it's detrimental to you, the idiots who allow themselves to be lobotomized by mainstream television. You might as well be a fucking robot, you don't even think for yourself - you just parrot.
>>79294921
if you or your loved ones were on the wtc,creating an alibi for an injustified war,that would benefit the ones who hold the power,would you feel proud?
>>79290593
>Assad's guys kill muzzie scum
>muzzie scum's friends hide weapon, repost as civilian
>western faggots like MSM and OP swallow it hook, line and sinker
Riddle me this shitcunt. How many of the 183000 were women and children?
>>79295204
you're acting like killing muslims isn't a good thing. Only good muslim is a dead one
>>79295241
is it justified to kill a few to save a million?
>>79295204
listen Trudeu, you're retarded. Imagine we up and left the middle east today. You really think muslims will stop mudding? They've been blowing themselves up for a lot longer than we've been there. They will continue to do so. they scream death to the west, are you hard of hearing? they want to instill a caliphate, this is not government propoganda, it's exactly what they yell before they blow themselves up
>>79290593
>syrian network for human rights
>>79294921
The american goverment put Titan missiles in Turkey, and only got cold feet about it when the USSR responded in kind by putting their own missiles in Cuba.
Suddenly the american government realized it wasn't actually fun to have missiles able to hit them with such speed their elites wouldn't be able to get to a fallout shelter before being vaporized and decided to compromise with the USSR.
>That said, they know exactlyyyy what they're doing, they're securing the nation
They're incompetents. They're not "Securing the nation" they're creating their own personal satrapies in the massive american bureaucracy, and they don't give a flying fuck what happens to the nation as a whole so long as they've got their power. They'd put a bullet in your head, and a hundred million other americans, without a moment's thought if it meant they got something out of it.
I don't know how someone can slobber on and suck their dicks so much, yet here you are.
>>79295474
>listen Trudeu, you're retarded. Imagine we up and left the middle east today. You really think muslims will stop mudding?
They didn't start "mudding" until you went into the middle east in the first place.
Now we've got america and europe flooded with the fucks and they're committing terrorist attacks everywhere, thanks dumbfucks
>>79295309
> to save a million
were you actually threatened by anyone?
>>79290593
>according to the Syrian Network for Human Rights
>>79290593
OP is a butthurt Sunni nigger don't trusted him
>>79294460
You're talking like this is new to /pol/. Honestly, /pol/ likes to scream at leftists about how delusional they are, but /pol/ is the same shit, just on the other side of the spectrum
>>79295598
>They didn't start "mudding" until you went into the middle east in the first place.
wrong. They've been doing this shit for 3000 years
>>79295626
>were you actually threatened by anyone?
the rapid spread of militant, extremist islam in the middle east. Again. Who rose after rome fell?
>>79295526
>The american goverment put Titan missiles in Turkey, and only got cold feet about it when the USSR responded in kind by putting their own missiles in Cuba.
We say what goes. You could do it too if you were a superpower, but you're irrelevent, and so is your opinion.
The CIA knows exactlyy what they're doing guy
>>79290593
>al-nusra
>356
>>79295598
>america flooded
lol no. It's not our fault Europe can't secure their borders. Sure we've got beaners but they do our work.
>>79290593
I don't get why so many /pol/acks support him, or Putin. They're both terrible dictators.
>>79290593
Posting stats from the same government calling for Assad's overthrow. Hahaha
Fuck off.
You might as well be posting a Jpost article.
>>79290593
>Al-Nusra
>356 in 5 years
>>79294921
Shouldn't you be celebrating your nigger president announcing a union with Canada and Mexico?
>>79295968
the ones who hold the power don't give fuck about any of us.there are no country loving billionaires
In a war that has killed just under or around 300,000 people, of which over 80,000 are government troops, 100,000 are rebels, 20,000 are ISIS, and 10,000 are YPG, somehow the government has managed to kill 180,000 civilians?
>>79296336
flat out wrong. Wouldn't expect a good knowledge of money from a broke Greek. The basis of trade and business is mutally beneficial trade. Billionaires do not get rich fucking over the little guy, that's not how business works in America. If you fuck someone over, no one will buy from you again. That kind of buisness is for central / south america and China. Not the USA
>>79293589
Ask /sg/
>>79291090
>>79291340
>>79291985
Guys this guy is a radical Sunni that was talking arabic in another thread.
He was saying death to the alawites, allahu akbar, and other things unironically.
Also, over 70,000 pro assad soldiers died, where are they on the chart?
Also, the source counts rebels as civilians. So anyone killed by the SAA, rebel or not is counted as a civilian.
Did i mention that the guy that came up with these stats lives in London and has no clue who killed who?
>>79296275
your spirit is lacking commie. The oppressive architecture and vodka is to blame. You need a healthy dose of real art and expression. Something you brutish cunts can't seem to do.
I'd fuck your women though.
>>79290593
>Assad's killed almost 200K dunecoons
How can one man be so based, /pol/?
>>79290593
Maybe those numbers are right if you count FSA, ISIS and whoever else as civilians.
>>79296500
Good christ you are so fucking naive
>>79291552
This coming from American. Damn i bet you're just sarcastic, i doubt that you are so dumb....
>>79296500
so you'are saying that the owners of lehman brothers and evry other firm like that were on a "mutually beneficial trade" with the american citizens?
>>79296713
so you think if we pulled out of the middle east, everything would settle down? Are you actually retarded? Keep going with the Americans are stupid meme, by all means though.... it's a good one. Makes me laugh.
How's your diet of potatoes?
>>79296911
if you want to learn more about the housing crisis just ask. The government made laws to allow mortgages to be sold to every nigger with shit credit. The housing crisis was caused by bad government, which i won't deny that congress is filled with incompetent retards. The loans were backed by the government, so the banks had literally 0 risk. They gave out all these loans, eventually niggers couldn't pay (or wouldn't, who knows, they're niggers) and all the pieces came tumbling down
>>79290593
Only good Arab is a dead Arab
>>79297095
i'm not talking about niggers but about the average citizens that were aloud to go full retard and lose their belongings.those dipshits got bailed out,like two people went to jail and the world keeps spining.look at the media,look at everything around you,which has the single purpose of sedating the masses.would the feminists and every other bullshit ideology been given power to,if the purpose was to protect and ensure the prosperity?
>>79296921
No if you pull out your army out of their and stop killing them then maybe, JUST MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T BE SO FUCKING PISSED OFF! Oh gee why did they attacked Twin Towers in 9/11 ? Why they are sending hordes of terrorists into Europe and to USA? Why are there so many homeless Arabs who travel to Europe cause their homes are being bombarded for decades ?
You idiots supported religion fanatics and now they have power. You idiots went into Middle East and instead of defeating them you killed civilians bombed their industry and destroyed their homes.
No wonder those goat fuckers turn to "Allah Akbar" if their lives are being destroyed by idiots on other side of the ocean.
>>79290593
>The Syrian Network for Human Rights is a UK-based non-governmental organization, founded in June 2011,[1] which monitors the Syrian Civil War. The organization's chairman is Fadel Abdul Ghani.
>founded in June 2011
convenient
>Fadel Abdul Ghani
hardly any information exists on him. I'm sure if you digged enough you know where you'd end up.
>Syrian network for human rights
Aren't these fags based out of the UK
>>79297729
Yeah and the wikipedia entry on them is one sentence long.
>>79297666
>why did they attacked Twin Towers in 9/11
come on now satan you know that's not true
>>79291552
>hating latvia
Fuck off Russiaboo
>>79290593
(((Syrian network for human rights)))
1/10 for forcing a reply
Define "civilian"
>>79290593
>people take up arms against regime
>regime kills rebels
>get accused of killing civilians
Sounds about right
>>79297600
>i'm not talking about niggers but about the average citizens that were aloud to go full retard and lose their belongings
yeah you have no understanding of what happened. the banks got bailed out bc they didn't do anything wrong. The governement WANTED them to give out those loans. Why would anyone go to jail? The did nothing wrong.
i'm not defending the jews behind the media
>>79297666
>No if you pull out your army out of their and stop killing them then maybe, JUST MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T BE SO FUCKING PISSED OFF!
wrong satan. what don't you understand about islam? they want to install a caliphate, they want their women in bags, they want to throw fags off buildings. They were allah akbaring before 9/11. You know the towers were bombed before that right? 9/11 was just our final straw.
>>79298141
why would they want the banks to hand out loans?what profit would they make from it?
>>79290593
>The Syrian government is responsible for 94% of the civilian deaths
BS. How can that be, when you have ~46 terrorist groups fighting him using inaccurate homemade mortars and rockets?
>>79298440
emporer obongo and the left think niggers have shit credit bc they are disadvantaged and they were fucked by not getting loans for homes after wwii. our economy works in boom and bust cycles now. The housing market was the first big boom and bust
>>79290894
>ISIS is ISIS because of the regime.
ISIS would be al Qaeda still, if they didn't have a major disagreement in terror tactics. Baghdadi was too ruthless for al Qaeda so they split.
>>79298440
and of course mortgages are profitable senpai
The shitskin running that organization literally admitted he often puts potential "rebels" with civilians because he's not sure what they were.
Also, the "rebels" hide in residential areas, they use civilians as shield. Govt has the option of either giving up or going through them. I'd rather see them do everything they can to destroy al-qaeda/isis/ahrar.
>>79290593
>Syrian network of human rights
Is that just the renamed Syrian observatory of human rights? Sounds like it. Known untrustworthy source.
>>79295204
>Universal hatred by every other country on the planet?
LOL like we ever gave a fuck what shitstains like you 'thought' of us. Who do you pansies ALWAYS call for help when the shit hits the fan? That's right bitch..the U.S.A. so kys you fucking hippy faggot.
