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Russian minister of defence Shoigu resigned over 50 high naval officers, including supreme admiral of the Baltic fleet. Last time something of that scale happened back in 1937 we had a world war next.
BE PREPEARED.
proofs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-military-sackings-idUSKCN0ZF1DB
>>79281532
well 1937 the officers would have been shot not just resigned.
>>79281532
Resign? Why?
WHYYYYYY??????????????
>>79282104
they were planning break off.
>>79281532
You guys were caught by surprise when Barbarossa was launched. This hardly combat readiness.
>>79281672
>Lack of training and proper care of personal
Actually caring about sailors? What wizardry is this?
>>79282324
Some BS excuse for a purge.
Did he teleport behind them with one of his katanas as he fired them?
>sorry tovarisch nothing personal
>>79281532
>Last time something of that scale happened back in 1937
Comparing the resignation of 50 officers to Stalin's Great Purge...
talking about blowing thigs out of proportion
>>79282282
Who was, and why?
>>79282922
no one i was mistaken.
>>79282282
What? Why would they do that? Sounds retarded given the situation desu, they're fucked now. How hard is it to just play ball for these guys?
In Russian historiography, the period of the most intense purge, 1937–1938, is called Yezhovshchina", after Nikolai Yezhov, the head of the Soviet secret police, NKVD. It has been estimated between 600,000 and 1.2 million people were murdered by the Soviet government
>>79281532
>Last time something of that scale happened back in 1937
>BE PREPEARED.
well that settles it, I'm off to kill 90% of my officers in order to ensure maximum preparedness. Thanks for the heads up Ivan.
>>79282758
Ahahaha.
The effects of that purge where not so great.
So russia not escalating or just maskirovka?
With unexpiranced officers going to war is suicidel. But they are not executing them. So.
They can be called back.
Peace talks? Any one?
>>79281672
>reuters
HAHAHA no.
>>79281532
I doubt anyone takes Russian navy seriously. Well, except for Swedes that occasionally get excited about large unidentified phallic object near their shores.
>>79283941
That's kind of a bold statement to make when so much of the ongoing geopolitical jockeying includes Russian naval bases (e.g. Crimea, Syria)
>>79281532
Russian Empire ~ 200 years
Soviet Union ~ 70 years
Contemporary Russia ~ ? years
Russia is a meme since 1917, the Soviet Union managed to last for a longer period of time only thanks to the military and financial assistance of the Allies during WW2, but only when that assistance stopped, the Soviets collapsed 50 years after the war had ended
>>79283941
>quick Sven grab the 44 gallon drum of Vaseline. It's a big black one
>muh great purge
>muh experienced officers
When will this meme end? Experience from WW1 was fucking useless because nazis used completely different new tactics that took most European armies by surprise. Ask French how did their "experienced officers" work for them.
On the contrary, the large part of those Red Army officers were former White movement officers that switched sides. In case of war, it would have been very likely that they would switch sides again and join nazis.
>>79284208
You seem to have comfortably forgotten how the Red Army trained together with the nazis in the 1930's.
We should genocide Russians 2bh
>>79284381
First of all, I didn't forget that, and second of all, how does that have any relevance to the subject at hand exactly?
>>79283830
>reuters
>not one of the most reliable news sources out there
stupid fucking leaf
>>79283207
And then Yezhov got purged himself.
Stalin was one ruthless sonnabitch.
>>79284381
We trained with Germans before Nazis. When Hitler came to power the relationships quickly went sour.
>>79281532
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""resigned"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
We all know what you're doing again
>>79281532
>Last time something of that scale happened back in 1937 we had a world war next.
Not true.
It also happened before Soviet Union ended:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust
>Rust's flight through a supposedly impregnable air defense system had great effect on the Soviet military and led to the dismissal of many senior officers, including Minister of Defense Marshal of the Soviet Union Sergei Sokolov and the Commander-in-Chief of the Soviet Air Defence Forces, former World War II fighter ace pilot Chief Marshal Alexander Koldunov. The incident aided Mikhail Gorbachev in the implementation of his reforms, by allowing him to dismiss numerous military officials opposed to his policies.
>resigned
More like he gave them all an offer they couldn't refuse.
>Baltic Fleet
>>79284508
you claimed russian experience was useless because it stemmed from wwi. This is not true.
>>79284549
Not true either. The soviet union was crucial in facilitating the new Wehrmacht with training grounds and equipment allowing a new german army core to form covertly hidden from the western allies
>>79283941
>I doubt anyone takes Russian navy seriously
>Kek Russian Navy is so shit, their boats can't even reach me
t.landlocked country.
>>79284517
>Reuters
You mean Josaphat, kike?
>>79282634
I hope he did.
You do realize that the 1937 incident was literally called the Great Purge, right? This was to remove any support for a Trotsky premiership
>>79281532
https://www.rt.com/usa/349005-andrews-lockdown-active-shooter/
2016 - FULL OF HABBENINGS
>>79285026
not actually true
>>79285020
[citation needed]
You can't hide your military industry. Everyone knew that Germany was violating the limits imposed by treaties.
>>79284410
What the fuck Vladimir? I thought you were against degeneracy? What the fuck is going on anymore?
>>79283207
Yeah, that's the 60 million Stalin killed.
Dont bother arguing with Russians about history, their responses simmer down to dindu nuffin
>>79284163
Always glad to read Poland's analysis on Russia, keep it up.
>>79281532
Gearing up for a Hilary presidency.
There was talk of that a few days ago. Guess this is the start.
Gonna be a war, kids.
Probably during the Russian election next year. Washington likes to strike when they think their enemy is distracted.
>>79285486
>ameritards talking about history
>ameritards talking about dinduing nuffin
>>79285268
Russians cozied up with nazi Germany until you got backstabbed. Even after ww2 you lost allies.
>>79284381
You seem to forget how the West embraced the Nazis before the War as a means to an end against commemism.
>>79284410
That only proves that Canada has full hard drives of that shit.
>>79285312
>Russia is the bastion of white Europe
It's mostly a meme.
>>79285312
Can some 'where is proofs' fag explain what is going on?
>>79285575
They didn't cozy up, they signed a treaty, just as Britain signed treaties with the Nazis before that.
>>79285312
>beacon of white culture
>>79284208
In fact, there was a red army general that did switch sides. Andrey Vlasov
>>79285573
Its funny how Russians are the first to acknowledge and take credit for soviet achievements, then abruptly distance themselves from the soviet union when all the mass murders, purges, rapes, and general shit tier ideology is brought up. Find an american who will deny what we did to the native americans, japs, chinese, or any other people on this planet. Ill find you a dozen russians who will cry proofs regarding historical fact of your own nations history.
>>79285312
vodka meme is all fun and games until you realize they are alcoholic degenerates
>>79285026
Nice try, but we won every naval battle against the Russians we had ever fought.
>>79285769
A treaty of mutual territorial gain you ignorant fuck
>>79285573
>biting that shit
>>79285844
At least they dont blow up anymore.
>>79284410
I can rest easy knowing my country is not on that list
>>79285575
Stalin knew that a big war is inevitable. He tried to play it cool with Hitler, win more time for modernizing the army and gaining new buffer zones. His biggest mistake was miscalculating when the Germany will attack.
And what was the rest of Europe and USA doing? Signing Munich Betrayal or "agreement" and trading just as much if not more with Hitler hoping he will get rid of communism for them.
>allies
lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
>>79285953
I didn't know that allowing Germany and Poland to partition and annex Czechoslovakia was mutual territorial gain.
>ameritards talk about history
>>79284208
So you're just totally happy with the USSR being a thing, right?
>>79286044
Russia had 31 terrorist attacks in 2013.
https://www.rt.com/politics/russian-terrorism-investigator-committee-993/
You guys need to get your heads out of your asses and stop praising Russia because of your memes. This board has been taken over by St. Petersburg shills and has made people on this board defend Russia blindly.
I'm not saying to hate Russians, but do not expect for them to "liberate Europe"
>>79285953
Britain's PM handed Sudetenland to the Nazis with the Munich Pact, ignorant fuck.
>>79286049
2bh I love Greeks. Fuck what anybody says.
>>79285886
this
>>79283333
Quads confirmed this guy is really about to go do this.
>>79281532
They just liked Russian nationalist manifesto post @vk.
>>79285886
"Our history" is written and overly exaggerated by the masters of propaganda in USA and even more distorted by several periods of self-flagellation during Khrushev, Gorbachev and Yeltsin. It's funny how /pol/ claims that Holocaust never happened because of a lot of suspicious lies and then just goes and swallows everything about USSR because it aligns with their world-view more easily.
>>79286308
What's the matter? I thought /pol/ loved the muh day of the rope when you will finally hang all liberals and traitors? Well, you need a Stalin for that.
>>79285746
RARE
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RT shilling for Remain back then:
https://www.rt.com/uk/347089-ukip-poster-refugees-nazis/
https://www.rt.com/uk/347259-jo-cox-murder-mair/
Guys, Poland seeked non-aggresion pact with Nazis, the Brits and French failed to defend the treaty after remilitarisation began, and handed out Czechs and Slovaks on a plate. The Poles denied transit rights to Soviets (smart move to be honest) who along with Yugoslavia were the only countries to mobilise to defend them.
The rise or Bolshevism and Soviets is not a Russian fault only, but it is a too broad a topic. You only have to look at the fact that millions of Russians died fighting them, and every minority of Russian Empire backstabbed them. Then you have assimilation policies, eliminating all Russians in modern Ukraine and Belarus, at least on census data.
The purges were a disaster because they removed not only actual Trotskytes, high rank officers etc. but because they also removed many of lower ranked operative officers and paved the way for dual line of command with political commisars which proved disastrous.
No nation has suffered more due to Bolshevism than the Russians did, just look at the numbers that were killed, starved, executed or fled to West. The Russian culture, traditions, religion and state were the target of Bolsheviks, and they didn't try to hide it.
Then again, what you see today as Russians aren't actual Russians in many cases, just descendants of Homo Sovieticus who were told to be Russians once USSR broke up.
>>79286603
>North Caucasus durkas blow each other up
So what's the problem?
>>79285844
Thank you.
Too many dumb Americans that worship Putin without understand what Russia is really like.
Good book on how non-whites rape and murder white-Russians with impunity
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/4316094/
>>79286957
> not a Russian fault only
wew lad
>>79286829
That's called reporting the events. They aren't even opinion pieces.
>>79285533
This is true. You'll see it anyway and then you'll say to yourself "that fucking polish guy!"
>>79286778
You do realise that the soviet archives were released not long ago? As soon as they were available, estimates went up, not down desu.
What is it with Russians - they constantly feel that someone is against them. A little critisism, whether internal or external is always met with anger and nationalism - the nationalism of a shithole. Russians are the most useless, unproductive and drugged up nation in Europe AND Asia.
>>79281532
>BE PREPEARED.
for Eu Army?
>>79287200
Estimates didn't go anywhere, they were made in peak of the Cold War and then were taught by Soros funded history textbooks in 90s.
>>79287062
Look man, the Reds numbered millions of ethnic Russians.
I know that Bolsheviks were usurpers and went to war against an elected government, and lied to people about pacifism and improvement.
But it doesn't absolve all those people who fell for it. Either out of genuine retardness or opportunism.
>>79285627
UR A MEME
>>79287434
Provisional Government was hardly elected and came to power during February revolution.
>>79284208
>Experience from WW1 was fucking useless because nazis used completely different new tactics that took most European armies by surprise.
Well, too fucking bad Tukhachevsky was executed then. He was a proponent of mobile warfare and combined arms, you stupid bitch. Most officers executed and imprisoned in 1937-1938 had experience of the Civil War which was a lot more valuable because it was mostly cavalry action and mass mobilization.
>Ask French how did their "experienced officers" work for them.
Why don't you ask Rokossovksy who was pulled out of gulag in 1940? Oh, he was probably a bad officer and most likely an actual criminal who was imprisoned solely for his sins, right?
>On the contrary, the large part of those Red Army officers were former White movement officers that switched sides.
Purge of Tsarist "military specialists" happened in 1930 during case Vesna.
Shut the fuck up, you mong. You know about as much as burgers.
>>79285312
We had free wymyn politics since 1918, which is modern western feminism on steroids, with guns and torture chambers.
First (~10?) MLP episodes where made by very talented author Lauren Faust, while she was being pregnant, that made her expres her motherly and very female feelings in her artwork. You cant blame us for being hooked on her charm.
If not for feminazi scum politics, we would have her today as female protagonist line-writer somewhere in Game of Thrones and this would be another brilliant work. Instead she is under the PC-corporate gender equalizing policies and is making utter degeneracy.
MLP-porn appreciation is annoying, but it`s not in a furry way, like it is in first world, because we do not have rich western faggotry background.
>>79287400
>Soros funded history textbooks
Is this true?
>>79287790
Zhukov was the original proponent of mobile warfare and inventor of blitz krieg.
Tukhachevsky was just a degenerate polack, that gassed the whole towns full of Russian civilians.
Tukhachevsy had an idea of mass combat and utilising agricultural tractors as "second-line" tanks with addition of armour and guns, for exploitation phase. Yeah, doesn't sound bad at all for a country with food deficit.
Btw. what is Polish opinion of Rokossovsky? Polish members?
>>79287200
> Russians are the most useless, unproductive and drugged up nation in Europe AND Asia.
Wew lad. Why is 70% your shitty mudslime quasination live in Russia then?
>>79286666
Thank you based friend!
Also checked Stanic quints.
>>79284410
Those statistics only count searches made on pornhub. Those numbers would be a lot different if it included other sites and google.
>>79288025
Correction. Blitzkrieg is not an actual doctrine. It is not referenced in any actual German military theory or instructions.
The idea of Schwerpunkt and Kesselschlact predates Germans, as does the mobility, maneuver warfare and combined arms.
It is true that Soviets went increasingly more for true combined arms (abandoning Mech Corps in the process) and offensive maneuvering, while the Germans degenerated their flexible combined armored forces of reliable and medium tanks into defensively orientated heavy monsters aimed at attritional war.
>>79288322
This.
We will be first.
>>79287144
Are you guys opening "Pole the plumber" corporation at moscow?
>>79287878
http://www.pinter.org.uk/eastern.html
>Soros was one of the first philanthropists to invest in education. Although a newcomer to the field, he quickly understood the critical role textbooks play in the whole process of introducing and implementing new curricula. In the early '90s, the Moscow OSI office ran an open competition, inviting proposals for new books in the social sciences and humanities. The intention was to broaden the pool of authors, involving especially teachers rather than the narrower, older generation of pedagogical specialists.
>The concept created a lot of excitement, with over a thousand grants provided for text development. Unfortunately, no one realized what a difficult undertaking it would be. At a time when standards, curricula and teacher training were all undergoing change, it was almost impossible to create textbooks that met the needs of new and old courses. With hindsight, a modest pilot project might have been a better way forward. However, that would not have aroused such enthusiastic participation from teachers on the ground.
>In any case, from the final pool of manuscripts we were able to select twenty titles, which along with existing textbooks were printed and sold to local authorities, with bridging finance supplied by Soros. This did not "fix" the Russian textbook shortage but a large World Bank loan kicked in a few years later and benefited greatly by avoiding the mistakes we'd made.
>OSI launched a number of "Education Mega-Projects" in several countries, each consisting of elements of policy development, curricula reform, teacher training and textbook revision. They usually spanned a period of three to five years and were meant to act as demonstration models on how to accomplish maximum local participation in the process of change. By the late '90s, the Foundation network was devoting $125m (20% of total expenditure) to educational projects of one kind or another.
>>79287434
> it doesn't absolve all those people who fell for it
Sure, there is scum in every nation, but not even through-and-trough indoctrinated retards supported them after 1921.
Literally no sane Russian man supported this shit in 1921. But there where a lot of polacks, latvians, chinese mercenaries, chechens as killers and anglo kikes from major european rabbi families ruling all this shit.
>>79281532
Its called when "the bugs in house are no longer invisible". Probably some officials flirting or working with the huge US budget to infiltrate the Russian army, they were too many and Sergei waited for a crucial time to get rid of them.
This is the difference between paid agents and sleep agents. If there are Russian spies in the US army we will never know until its actually needed.
>>79285585
this
>>79282315
Only because ussr and germany were in an alliance when hitler invaded? dumb bong
>>79288498
Minimum wages there are lower than in Gabon, sorry, we don't go to such places :^)
>>79288799
Of course, you're used to working for minimum wage. :^)
>>79288931
Same goes for the Russians in U.S. Your kind are literally white niggers and all they do is bring crime and organized crime.
All you faggots posting here saying you hate the west and U.S. yet it seems like you all leave as soon as you have the oppurtunity.
>>79288025
>Zhukov was the original proponent of mobile warfare
Zhukov just followed 1936 field rulebooks that were written by Svechin, Triandofilov and Tukhachevsky because he knew their theory worked after trying it at Khalkhin Gol. He was the best we had in 1941 and did a lot to build the proper army out of RKKA but he wasn't much of a theorist. He himself admitted that he had no idea what the fuck he was supposed to do when they appointed him Chief of Staff in 1941.
>blitz krieg
Blitzkrieg is a meme word that Germans didn't even use. If anything it implied swift destruction of enemy forces that would force him to surrender before you have to care about your own rear. Something Soviet Union neve implemented as Soviet doctrine was oriented at destroying soft targets in the enemy's rear such as supply depots and HQs while Germans tried to encircle and destroy manpower. Soviet mobile warfare doctrine was called Deep Battle. You would know that if you had any idea about history of warfare.
>Tukhachevsky was just a degenerate polack, that gassed the whole towns full of Russian civilians.
As much as he was a degenerate Polack he also was a widely recognized military theorist and his ideas are still in use today.
Russia is that creepy guy you live next to that once in a while looks out the window in his house with that scary wanton face, then proceeds to harmlessly masturbate itself to sleep on pure narcism. Once in a while Russia becomes too desperate for attention, too lusty. It's window stance shifts insignificantly, you'd barely notice the difference. But that's when you have to be especially fucking wary. Why? Because it is now become ready. It WILL jump out at first thing that comes near the window and rape it to death.
Wonderful neighbour.
>>79289129
Good, hopefully they will destroy you from the inside.
Everyone who wanted to leave has already left. It's not like we have emigration barriers.
>Shoigu cited "serious drawbacks" in the military training and everyday activities of the fleet's units
I wonder what shenanigans they have been up to
>>79288200
#75: American American
==triggered==
>>79282699
Don't be cocky
>>79289361
The mind of a Russian, everyone.
Remind me why /pol/ praises them?
>>79281932
You don't want a mutiny when shit goes down.
americans are retarded apes
>>79289970
quality post
>>79281532
> gook ruining a white country again
Won't you learn?
>>79287200
RARE
>>79290063
still better than canadians
>>79289784
I'm so sorry my 60% white master. I sincerely apologize for the transgressions of my former fellow countrymen on your territory and hope that you could continue to weaken and subvert my country and its citizens that haven't yet decided to leave it.
>>79281853
Soon.
>>79289784
Because of cheeki breeki cyka blyat rush B mentality and self hatred.
>>79284410
>Canada is the last
Consider the following: that's all Canadians using proxy.
>>79291191
Top kek. No. You are degenerate faggots.
>>79285627
>>79285712
>>79285925
>>79285844
>>79291319
b-but muh Putin
>>79281532
>>79281672
wow, it's nothing, retard
>>79282282
Wait what...do you mean a COUP?
Fug....time to get comfy now.
>>79285026
But our Navy can reach them. The ships firing rockets from Caspian sea to Syria illustrate it well.
>>79283093
god damn the kgb is fast
>>79282282
Yet another opportunity for the US to rescue these people.
>>79283207
muh gorillion
http://www.xvideos.com/video9208868/army_sex_scandal
> you will never do 2 year service in middle siberia with your mongol brothers
> you will never gangbang 40 year old svetlana in barracks
I love how the sergeant just kicks the old whore out of there.
