And what can america learn from China and for those who are in denial, who is the largest economic power at the moment?
>>79245706
Anna akana ? really ? * triggered*
They are not beating the US. They are doing pretty well though given their culture.
What the US can learn is how much easier it is to succeed without niggers and Jews.
Really made me think.
>>79245706
Looks like a mexican chick t.b.h.
>>79245706
>>79245706
They've put economic progress ahead of their land. Desertification, pollution, and a lack of fresh water will cripple China if something isn't done quickly.
>>79245706
>post one hot chink out of a billion.
>guys look how you amerifats are getting btfo by the Chinese.
>>79248749
>3% obesity rate vs 33% obesity rate
TOP KEK
>>79245706
There are no coons in China.
>>79249093
>3% obesity rate vs 33% obesity rate
I'd say 1 chink out of 100 is attractive.
At least white women are around 1 out of 20, even while being obese
>>79245706
America can learn very little from china. China is growing because the american rich and the elites made a deal with the commie Chinese to spite the commie Russians, where china builds the shit Americans buy. China is growing fast because it is started from almost nothing, the commies destroyed the economy so even low wage labor means a an improvement to the economy. In short china is developing because america gave china its jobs.
China's progress is going to slow down as soon as all the easy economic advantages of industrialization are obtained. China may become a regional power or world power if its currency becomes a world currency.
The only thing I see america can learn from this is to not let china become a world power, it means the US will no longer be the source of technological innovation because it will not command a strong currency.
>>79249513
Now we're going to do the same in India to spite China.
>>79245706
If America could learn from China, China would never be a threat. But I can't even persuade burgers to admit the necessity of taxation. Might as well treat each other as different species.
>>79249723
I think the english are already on to that, an India is growing pretty fast, faster than china. India and China will be "saturated" of economic growth at about the same time. I think the only place left for easy development is Africa.
>>79249513
Despite rapidly industrializing, technological progress has been like exceptionally bad. They produce something like 5% of the world's patents. Japan + US = 50% of the world's patent, last time I remembered.
Also. I could state what China did, in a succinct seven thousand words, and you'd never believe it was the case. China doesn't operate by western economics. It's closer to the Soviet Union.
>>79250006
I am interested in those 7000 words.
>>79250006
A TL;DR is fine too.
>>79250121
Look. I lectured a bunch of Chinese students about business in America, and I resonated with them enough that I have their gratitude award sitting by my computer.
>"Can I work for a private company while using the same technology my SOE uses?"
>"No you dumbass."
Getting into China though, requires first understanding the Soviet Union, and then working your way to modern China. You can't go 'backwards' from Capitalism to China's 'State Capitalism/Market Communism.'
But honestly this is an all night effort, and I would want to do it right, so I would need to prep up too. The most important takeaway is that I could bring Chinese economics into Anytown USA, and likewise explain certain flaws in their system of economics.
There is a reason why I prefer Renaissance II over Deng's shit.
>>79250551
A reference to some other work that explains your view or parts of it is also appreciated. I am not challenging you for "proofs", I'm just interested in the topic.
>>79245706
Because china doesn't have a jewish elite who actively try to undermine the civilization they took control over.
Because china doesn't have a population of 15% negroes who fill its society with crime, dumb down it's schools, and waste taxpayers dollars with government benefits.
>>79250551
just make it simple
>>79250995
Forgive me apparent hostility. It's hard to explain strange things because China doesn't follow any Western Economic Norms. So I get very nervous bringing up anything Marxist-related because if the audience doesn't like what it's hearing, red-baiting is always on the table.
I mean, honestly, Stratfor is a good outfit and just check with them. They'll set the foundations and will steer you right. But in terms of the crazier shit, I learned it from a serious of eclectic sources, including word-of-mouth from people living in the SU, that can be empirically verified, but not necessarily sourced. If this sounds like a cop-out, understand that the economics discipline is in the toilet, and there is a reason why you are asking this question here in the first place.
Again. I get very paranoid when bringing up Marxist shit, because some of it does work, even if most of it doesn't.
>>79251448
Nothing is simple about this topic. We are talking about an entire economic culture that doesn't even theoretically exist.
>>79245706
Why is a forest fire beating canada?
>>79248534
They're quickly buying other countries lands they'll be fine kek.
>>79251448
Here's a simple and scary statement. If the Soviet Union survived the 80's, it would've looked something exactly like China is today.
>>79251518
>We are talking about an entire economic culture that doesn't even theoretically exist
0/10
>>79245706
What is artificial outsourcing. America made everything in the 50s, then things were dismantled and spread across the globe. America doesn't need to do this, it has space, materials, and the human capital to be self sufficient. China is a creation from this artificial setup and propped up from it, the moment America produces as it did before, China gets cut down. Going back to making everything is a great way to deal with the dollar issue, can let it crash, imports being high priced will be meh, can buy everything domestically, and pay off external debts with the devalued dollar. This should start to sound familiar from Trump's talk about bringing manufacturing back to America.
>>79245706
Only thing I can see that the USA can learn from the Chinese is to lie out the ass like no other on everything, and steal the living fuck out of everything.
>>79245706
Lad, Akana is Jap American, not chink.
Also America can learn to not fuck up its environment. You think China is powering on now, but like 80% of their fresh water is fucked from their disregard for their own country for the sake of economics.
They're going to go through hell in the following years. Maybe even a Mao 2.0. Either that or they'll need to go to war for water.
>>79251819
Well. Maybe I'm a prissy fuck up. I have trust issues that plague me.
Here's something you should be looking into. This is the closest thing we have to China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_North_Dakota
Incidentally, this bank was built by a Far-Left party in America. Study this bank and how it operates. You'll find all the insights you could ever want. After this, it'll be possible to Red Pill on China with State Banking.
>>79246800
>chinks better than niggers
>>Quality is Bette than quantity
>>>Not when quantity is way too much
Its 1 billion vs 100 million!!! Unfair game
>>79252175
What youre saying is the the state is an enterprise in itself
Lots of countries do this, not jsut china, and not just commies
>>79252497
Yes. And that's the impossible leap I find with many Burgers. ESPECIALLY Intelligent Burgers.
Once it's possible to explain that the State enterprise can be MORE competitive than private firms AND generate more tax dollars, then we are on our way to Wonderland. And it's all good.
But again. IDK who you are. And it's late and I can't waste my time trying to fight bad economic dogma.
>>79245706
The only reason ANYONE has gotten any advantage over the US is because we've let them take advantage of extremely benevolent positions and dealings dating back to the cold war. Had we continued living by WWII/Cold War Patriotic propaganda and struggling to death for every inch of ground we could gain then we'd be so far ahead today that no one would question our dominance.
>>79249275
really ? thats your best shot?
China can sell goods in the US with zero tariffs or taxes
US cannot sell goods in China without paying a large tariff and basically bribing the shit out of government officials
Trump is right in that we're already in a trade war, it's just one where we're not even fighting.
>>79245706
Holy shit I know her!
>>79252693
>>79252497
Nobody has commissioned the book "Why China works" because it contains so many heresies that it's a waste of time. And I already got my answer for American Economic Recovery, so I don't really need to investigate here.
>"Yeah. I'm some loser who wants to argue that all banks should be localized to incentivize development in local regions"
>"Oh yes. New York does banking all wrong. It should take lessons from Vladimir Lenin."
>"The only thing necessary for Communism is one really large bank." - V. Lenin.
I have enough problems being weird, I don't need to be weirder.
>>79249093
Retard. Chinks' obesity rate shot up in the past few years.
>>79252693
That is exactly what the government does in singapore.
The singapore government is one of the most profitable enterprises in asia i think
They don't care about basic human rights. They're all the same race so they can collectively focus on hating Americans and Japs.
>>79253274
Exactly. But the problem is that there are two separate Banking Cultures in the World. Eastern and Western. And Western banking argues that Eastern Banking cannot work, when Eastern Banking CAN in fact work, but to the displacement of Western Banking.
The whole reason why Communism triumphed in China and Russia was because Western forms of banking weren't developing the nation. That's a red pill to end all red pills.
>>79252798
No country has ever been so capable to take over the world; yet, we haven't tried.
>>79253274
The US federal reserve is almost sacred in the US, questioning it is frowned upon for unstated reasons. I think this is why >>79253054 is paranoid, he may also be working close to spooks too from the sound of it lol.
Taking control of local banks for local purposes is effectively seizing the means of production. You can't have an Imperial Capital like Washington DC if the power to make economic decisions is centralized in DC (US Federal Reserve).
>>79252942
Just an observation. Most chinks are disgusting at best.
>>79249275
>even while being obese
>>79249093
Chinese obesity rates are actually rising up recently due to adapting western (read: anglo) lifestyles
>>79253897
1/3 white girls are obese
yet more white girls are attractive than gook girls
>>79253508
perhaps, but i dont think communism has anything inherent to do with it
>>79245706
white guilt
>>79245706
Feels good knowing it takes 1 billion gooks to beat out 300 million Americans
>>79253763
The counter-point is that the current system works for the US, or at least has been, so there's a reason why the status-quo has been upheld. The problem, though, is that things are beginning to change as entrepreneurship dies in America. IDK what the 2030s will hold. But I'm so far ahead I own option C.
However. If these bailouts keep continuing, then Capitalism will die in America, to be replaced by Socialism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schumpeter
So it's VERY complicated in the US case. We won the Cold War for a reason, and after we won it, all the bad things that didn't happen, are happening.
>>79254063
Communism has nothing inherent to do with it. The real question is, how much do you want to piss off New York. I've taken a hard line against unassimilated immigration, but I'm smart enough to not needlessly pick enemies like Sanders.
>>79245706
China is not beating America anywhere except in controlled contests where all the rules are rewritten to favor China.
>>79253763
but the fed is a private bank.
But im quite confused why >>79253054 is happening.
Central national banks have been part of the west for centuries, thats how they became top
>>79254602
To be honest, every state needs a state bank. And people can grumble, but it's a trifling problem.
Here's where the warning line is drawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprise
My Chinese SOE can beat your private American firm in a head to head contest, and this shouldn't be possible.
>>79254492
Delusional fat burgers
>>79245706
china is going to implode on itself like it always does
once trump is in charge the chinese dream will die
>>79245706
> who is the largest economic power at the moment?
The US. The US Treasury is considered to be the 'risk free' asset on which all other assets are priced (by default risk). The USD is also the world's reserve currency. China is basically a developing country, and it's debt's price/risk reflects that. Additionally, China doesn't even own the most US debt. US debt is owned primarily by US citizens, the Federal reserve, and the Social Security Administration. Even when you look at only international holders, China is second, right behind Japan.
The mentality that China owns the US is based entirely out of financial illiteracy.
now maybe not all white ppl are trash..but certainly the ones who can't accept living together as a global community are complete trash.
not saying live with muslim trash who want to blow shit up, but the muslim guy across the street from me certainly doesn't want to do that, so he's fine
>>79245706
China isn't the largest economic power, it's just a very large economy. China has 3x as many people as the USA, and slightly more overall GDP, if I recall correctly.
Consider that that means that the same amount of wealth is divided among 3x as many people. That means that surplus wealth is far, far lower.
Whereas the USA can afford to spend trillions of dollars building fighter jets, China cannot, because most of their "wealth" goes into basic survival.
Furthermore China has serious problems in its near future. It's an objective fact that China's demographic is rapidly aging, and while you can repeat platitudes about Chinese callousness all you'd like, the fact of the matter is that the Chinese don't abandon their elders. They cannot, it is literally integral to their culture.
That means that when their Boomer-equivalent hits retirement age, they're absolutely fucked. You'll have one working age male supporting 3-5 retirees and invalids. A Western country would rely on mass immigration to fix this--but China can't. They literally cannot feed their people already, they rely on imports from other countries, mass immigration would tax their resources to the limit, and basically put them on their knees in front of whoever controls the food supply (See: USA.)
If there's anything we can learn from China, it is:
1: Manipulating population growth is retarded
2: State interference in markets is retarded
3: Never write checks your country can't cash
If the Chinese were ACTUALLY devoted to the ideal of a "peaceful rise" they would've halved the migration from outlying provinces to the fertile belt near the coast. If they had slowed it down and acted with caution instead of flinging sense to the four winds and urbanizing the living shit out of their only fertile land, they might've had a chance. As it stands there are entire cities who are going to develop cancer by the age of 30, and no future prospects.
>>79254831
China will implode. Because it's own model has unique shortcomings and Deng isn't there to save it. That would be an important portion of the seven thousand words because Eastern Banking generally cannot into financial markets.
Honestly. I get a 'video game vibe' comparing these two powers as if they were two factions from Starcraft.
Anyway. OP has more than enough to do what he wants. My agenda doesn't require going into this direction because I was smart enough to find an unlikely solution. But if you do look deeper, just understand that at some point, it gets to be quite conflicting.
Night
>china will implode this, china will implode that
>china is too big to be true
u know, funny thing is, the experts predicting china's failure are the same ones warning against brexit and trump.
but no, selective hearing is what neckbeards do best. LMAO.
>>79251518
Man, stop being a pussy and give us the REAL redpill, this is /pol/, not /polo/. We're not a fucking orange county country club. You don't have to be scared to talk about marx here.
>>79245706
>china beating america
lmao
china is busy playing catch-up with america, and they still have around 20 years of catching up to do.
dont expect china to ever actually pull ahead. their system is bound to collapse way before they even reach parity with the west, and the resulting upheaval will be the most brutal and ruthless bloodbath ever seen in human history.
China still cannot get electricity to every home or indoor plumbing. I feel pretty secure knowing this.
>>79254748
>My Chinese SOE can beat your private American firm in a head to head contest
of course it can. your chinese SOE operates by chinese rules (or, if the chinese government wills it, by no rules at all) while the american firm is bound to american law, which is significantly more strict and regulatory in many aspects.
>>79247055
>Really made me chink.
anime
