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The Passing of the Great Race
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Why the fuck is this book not taught in school? A CENTURY passes and it's like he wrote this yesterday.
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>Where two distinct species are located side by side history and biology teach that but one of two
things can happen; either one race drives the other out, as the Americans exterminated the
Indians, or as the negroes are now replacing the whites in various parts of the South; or else
they amalgamate and form a population of race bastards in which the lower type ultimately
preponderates. This is a disagreeable alternative with which to confront sentimentalists, but
nature is only concerned with results and neither makes nor takes excuses. The chief failing of
the day with some of our well meaning philanthropists is their absolute refusal to face inevitable
facts, if such facts appear cruel.
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>>79243085
He uses anthropologic race as an indicator for success, even though that's been proven wrong.
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>>79243698
Jews would disagree.
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>The stoppage of famines and wars and the abolition of the slave trade, while dictated by the noblest impulses of humanity, are suicidal to the white man. Upon the removal of these natural checks negroes multiply so rapidly that there will not be standing room on the continent for white men, unless, perchance, the lethal sleeping sickness, far more fatal to blacks than to whites, should run its course unchecked.
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>>79243381
well, just driving around shitcongo and seeing all the mudsharks with their pet chimps proves him right.
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>[South Africans] must stand together if they are to maintain any part of Africa as a white man's country, because they are confronted with the menace of a large black Bantu population which will drive out the whites unless the problem is bravely faced.

I'll leave it at that, I encourage anyone who sees this to find a pdf of it, it explains a lot of what's going on today.
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>>79245353
SA standing together doesn't help much when the whole world is against them
Though it was treason from within that finally brought them down
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>>79244780
>shitcongo
Chicago?
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>>79247005
yes
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>>79243085
Madison Grant ADMITTED he was wrong KEK!!!!!! He tried to claim the Greeks were Nordics and then claimed Da Vinci was Nordic and Nordicism was common knowledge before Liberal propaganda. But couldn't explain why Da Vinci painted Aristotle NON-WHITE! KEK
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>>79248552

The ancient Greeks were Nordic. Troy was fought in the Baltic.
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>>79243698
Anyone with a functional brain would disagree.
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It's we wuz tier.
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>>79243915
Jews would prove it wrong since most are poor
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>>79251260
We
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>>79252089
Nordics be like: WE WUZ GREEKS N SHIIIIET.
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>>79244460
>unless, perchance, the lethal sleeping sickness, far more fatal to blacks than to whites, should run its course unchecked.

AIDS?
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Bruh
>Negroes have
demonstrated throughout recorded time that they are a stationary species, and that they do not
possess the potentiality of progress or initiative from within
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>>79243085
>Why the fuck is this book not taught in school?

The same reason I was required to take "African American Poetry" in college, but didn't have enough elective credits to be able to take Milton, Dickens, and Shakespeare.
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>>79248552

what the fuck are you even talking about, leaf. "nordic" and "white" are not synonymous, for starters, and please post Da Vinci's "We Wuz Kangz" version of Aristotle, thnx.
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>>79258367
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passing_of_the_Great_Race#Grant.27s_view_of_Nordic_theory
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>>79251823
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>>79258523
>Nordic theory, however, further subdivided Caucasoids into three groups: Nordics (who inhabited Scandinavia, northern Germany, Austria-Hungary, parts of England, Scotland and Ireland, Holland, Flanders, parts of northern France, parts of Russia, and northern Poland, and parts of Central Europe), Alpines (whose territory stretched from central Europe, parts of northern Italy, southern Poland to the Balkans/Southeastern Europe, central/southern Russia, Turkey and even into Central Asia), and Mediterraneans (who inhabited southern France, the Iberian peninsula, southern Italy, Greece, Wales, parts of England and Scotland, North Africa, and parts of the Middle East and Central and South Asia).

So, like I said, nordic is not synonymous with white, i.e. one can be white without being Nordic (by being Mediterranean or Alpine)

I literally read Grant (as well as the delightfully named Carlton Coon) back in my stormfront days in the early 2000s
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>>79258964
Keep reading.
Yet, while Grant allowed Mediterraneans to have abilities in art, as quoted above, later in the text in a sop to Nordic Migration Theorists, he remarked that true Mediterranean achievements were only through admixture with Nordics:

This is the race that gave the world the great civilizations of Egypt, of Crete, of Phoenicia including Carthage, of Etruria and of Mycenean Greece. It gave us, when mixed and invigorated with Nordic elements, the most splendid of all civilizations, that of ancient Hellas, and the most enduring of political organizations, the Roman State. To what extent the Mediterranean race entered into the blood and civilization of Rome, it is now difficult to say, but the traditions of the Eternal City, its love of organization, of law and military efficiency, as well as the Roman ideals of family life, loyalty, and truth, point clearly to a Nordic rather than to a Mediterranean origin.

In this manner, Grant appeared to be studiously following scientific theory. Critics warned that Grant used uncritical circular reasoning.[4] His desirable characteristics of a people — "family life, loyalty, and truth" — were claimed to be exclusive products of the "Nordic race".[5] Thus, whenever such traits were found in a non-Nordic culture, Grant said that they were evidence of a Nordic influence or admixture, rather than casting doubt on their supposed exclusive Nordic origin.
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>>79258964
Brilliant stuff if you ignore a century worth of understanding of human evolution and genetics.

Not saying race doesn't exist. It obviously does. But there's a limit to how seriously you want to take scientific notions from back then, at least without a serious look at everything that's followed on.
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No source, but then again this is a Samoan Doodling board.
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>>79253081
Sickle
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>>79259289

Grant, and most other early racialists, developed pretty sophisticated methods of identifying the phenotypic sets which can be loosely defined as "subraces". There are more sophisticated/detailed versions than Grant's general 3-group breakdown (and most spent more time studying Caucasian subraces than Negroid or Mongoloid), but most of the variants in most of the works are the result of admixture between the three, so it's not a bad starting point.

The real issue is that contemporary geneticists are not allowed to study race, so we are left with the unenviable decision of either reconciling and updating these older theories with new breakthroughs individually, or simply ignoring them and starting over from scratch.

>>79259068

So what part of that says that they "are not caucasian"? Did you read the part where he said
>The mental characteristics of the Mediterranean race are well known, and this race, while inferior in bodily stamina to both the Nordic and the Alpine, is probably the superior of both, certainly of the Alpines, in intellectual attainments. In the field of art its superiority to both the other European races is unquestioned.

There is some slight evidence supporting his "nordicist sop" in that the Doric Greeks were supposed to have migrated into the peninsula from the north and to have been fairer haired and eyed than the Ionic/Mykene Greeks with whom they interacted. The Anatolian and Athenian Greeks were supposed to have been primarily Ionic, whilst the Spartans and Macedonians primarily Doric, and the stereotypes of those respective groups map nicely onto Grant's Nordic v Med stereotypes.

I've never said I consider Grant the gospel truth, merely denied that he claimed "only nordics are white", and I have yet to see proof to the contrary.

He explicitly refers to Nord, Alpine, and Med as "European" and "Caucasian".
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>>79259611

Is that MtDNA? I love this kind of stuff but don't really have a head for STEM subjects.

IIRC this is genetic distance
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>>79260114

Not trying to prove a point, just posting more info
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>>79260281
Basque master race?
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>>79245353
Low IQ races are human kudzu. So much has been lost to them.
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>>79260883
What's under the kudzu?
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>>79261099
The cucked, plants that actually put the work in to reach the heights. They're just not wired to ever fight back. Doomed to always be overgrown.

Reminder that Africans only spend 8 months in the womb, Asians 8.5.
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>>79262061
Oh noes.
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