https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmwqEg-06Ww [Embed]
>MUH NIGEL HATE BANDWAGON:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_dVs6v8LNw [Embed]
>Farage at the EU parliament for the first time since Brexit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7le5GPJpbE [Embed]
>Pound Sterling begins to rise again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36660133
>300,000 more migrants from Africa headed to Europe.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/29/frontex-chief-300000-migrants-headed-africa-europe/
>Britain to open Immediate trade talks to Australia and South Korea
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1358907/britain-set-to-open-immediate-trade-talks-with-australia-and-south-korea/
>Police deny hate crime has 'surged by 56% since brexit'
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/29/police-hate-crime-not-surged-57-per-cent-since-brexit/
>EU tells Nicola Sturgeon to fuck off
http://archive.is/bQGLN
>Boris gives 'two fingers' to remain Tory MPs
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/redbox/topic/brexit-britain/boris-gives-two-fing-fingers-to-remain-tory-mps
>Farage on CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwNi5HMOlbQ [Embed]
Tory Leadership Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19mKbV0UnIbX_lbiinKiquP0ghiFpsMl0owUO6_TJyzI/htmlview?sle=true#
some OC lads
>>79240666
Who is the likeliest candidate for pm? Please don't say May.
>>79240800
Tell me that's not the meme you planned on saving for a new thread
>>79240666
yea alright I kek'd
>>79240666
>>79240733
>>79240800
>>79240906
it's May, love
>>79240906
May
>>79240948
I'm not the same guy
>>79240906
Hoping for Boris, but it could end up being m a y
>>79240906
Right now Boris has more declared MP supporters, but a yougov poll showed that May has a lot more support among conservative party members
Anyone else listen to these? They're alright.
https://soundcloud.com/user-568931059
You know the best part about this referendum?
Merkel's butthurt is at an all time high.
Actually makes us burgers kind of jealous, we couldn't get germany to hate us that much if we tried, and oh did we try.
>>79240535
It doesn't seem sustainable. If there is to be any law at all, the amount of prisons will have to quintuple. There will be no end of identity and race politics.
I think one of the EU goals is to lower the expectations of the governed. To migrants, you could halve the quality of life and they would still be impressed, while the natives who are used to twice the standards they suffer now simply perish to outbreeding.
>>79241176
>>79241008
>>79241018
>>79241035
At least there'll still be a good reason to vote Ukip then
I'm looking forward to how the reform is going to work out
>>79241163
Boris needs to make a public fucking statement already. What is this man waiting for?
how does the conservative leadership contest work?
>>79240906
It's going to be May
Boris is great but he looks far too much of a nutter to be taken seriously. Gove would be great but the public doesn't trust him enough after his education run
What we really need now is Thatcher 2.0
During it'a routine patrol our nuclear submarine, HMS Vanguard encountered the Russian northern fleet in the North sea, 300 miles off the coast of Yorkshire. During the altercation it was sunk by the Russian ship K-560 Severodvinsk, a nuclear powered attack submarine. Fourty seven minutes later a Russian Jet, the Tupolev Tu-22M struck at HMNB Clyde, destroying the three other Vanguard-class submarines capable of launching nuclear weapons. The UK now has zero ability to launch it's nuclear deterrent and effectively doesn't have one.
This didn't actually happen, but what if it did?
>>79241378
MPs vote in a series of ballots to reduce the field down to 2, which is then voted on by the membership
>>79241163
>>79240906
>>79241335
Gathering up Tory support I would imagine. He has p good sense of timing generally, probably waiting on May first.
May wasn't even pro-leave. We may as well keep Cameron. I'd trust him to at least follow through with the result without going full Orwell.
>>79241423
Theresa "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" May is no Thatcher, she's an nosy authoritarian whose cons outweigh her pros
>>79241528
>not voting for based may
>not having a government log of your fetishes
Seriously though why is she so popular?
>>79241648
Oh I know full well, May is nothing close to based Maggie. All I'm saying is that we need a new Thatcher, not that May IS one
>>79241423
A wild-haired blond, New York-born nationalist leading on both sides of the Atlantic.
I dont see what could go wrong.
>>79241459
Boris needs Crabb to knock May out before the runoff
The other problem is if the Tories call a GE after electing May, we could be in trouble.
I thought we was meming a moggminister?
>>79241803
>muh personal back story crab
Literally only thing I know about him is he has some backstory which I'm supposed to care about
1983 KGB defector interview about the socialism marxsism-leninism subversion in the Western World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
Watch and share it lads, if you do not want to live in socialist europe.
>>79241919
Ya Boris & Crabb have said they wouldn't call a snap election, but May has offered no such assurances.
>>79241919
From fucking where?
>>79241921
He gave his support to Boris in exchange for him getting rid of freedom of movement
>>79241921
mogg declared for boris, strong support on BBC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e2Gb3Yu_6Y
uhhhhhhh... what's article 50???
*drools*
>>79241921
Moggy sadly wouldn't reach the top 2 choices for the vote anyway
>>79242229
you're gonna trigger him again
>>79242177
Which means Boris is who we want. The eurosceptic backbenchers are behind him, so he's the most likely to deliver what we want. May is a slippery bitch.
nice song tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLT8i3zfCZY
>>79242229
It's like Order 66, but for Jews.
>imprison and publicly disgrace a guy who groped a teenager decades ago
>mayor is London literally worships a guy who proudly fucked 9 year olds
>he prays to this pedo every single day
Great job England
>>79242427
what the fuck its not halloween
>>79242449
gerry adams is a paedo m8?
Reminder that May, like Merkel, has no children
NEVER TRUST CHILDLESS WOMEN
What kind of tea are you drinking lads?
>>79242449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9TVvkpHWxg
>>79242727
>Merkel has no children
The EU is her child
>>79241442
>patrolling with SSBNs
>not having dedicated attack subs
>MFW the US has more Los Angeles class attack subs than Britain has submarines in general
>>79242449
>>79242668
>>79242775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0rlYSJQkyw
wait why is this on /pol/
this has NOTHING to do with the USA, USA politics, or USA news
not even indirectly
so why is this here, go back to /b/ or where ever irrelevant countries discuss their politics
>>79243043
nice b8 m8
>>79243030
hahah we should leave NI on the basis of this tweet alone
>>79242775
>tfw can't hum this anymore without getting looks
Dear Jimmy, can you fix it for me, to be able to hum two little boys again
Is the sky falling?
t. lefty
>>79242882
We do have dedicated attack subs (Astute-class). The SSNBs (Trafalgar-class) don't just wonder around on patrols so his scenario is a bit silly.
>>79242882
>There could be Astute subs ghosting inferior American subs as we speak and there crews would be none the wiser.
You know your submarine fleet is shit when Australia can outmatch them :^)
>>79243276
Trafalgar class aren't the nuclear weapon ones, they're just nuclear powered. The Vanguard class are the nuclear ones and they do indeed patrol on their own.
>>79243257
trust in comrade corbyn, brother
>>79243619
>>79243406
You can't really shittalk them when it comes to raw military power. I was in Portsmouth when one of their carriers visited and it couldn't even fit in the harbour so it had to anchor off the coast and ferry people in. They have like 20 of them.
>>79243536
My apologies, you're correct.
>>79243043
You can all fuck right off. How dare you tell me how to feel! I am an adult you half witted morons. I work for a company that does a lot of trade in the EU and has it's headquarters there. There is a real chance you have screwed up my future. I would not blame my company one bit for moving all of our production to Poland or Germany. Yeah we've got great history and lots to be proud of how does leaving the EU change that! It's not going to let us go back in time a cherry pick the greatest moments of the last 50 years and let us all relive only the good bits. I am ashamed right now of the selfish decision we've made (due to "proud" people like you) I am going to have to live with it. Baby boomers by any chance, older? You've fucked my generation and the younger ones still to come over too many times. It's not a socialist power trip! We get/ got lots of benefits and we helped do a lot of good. Sure it could have been less wasteful and better. Any chance of us being part of making that better is gone you'd rather run away from the problems clearly you cowards. Do you even have any European friends? I do and they are almost as upset and frustrated as I am. Have faith? Fuck off mates. I'd rather have a plan and be part of something greater than the sum of it's parts. Thanks to people like you were out the EU and everything that's shit about England at the moment isn't going to get fixed the EU has been made a scapegoat or some really not that important problems and you've fucked us because of it. Don't you go on about forefathers you stupid backward looking asses. I'm a bad person? You know fuck all about me, piss off. I am ashamed to be British and especially ashamed to be English right now. I feel sick and I want some strong black man to hug me while I cry.
IMMIGRATION
NO
REPATRIATION
YES
IMMIGRATION
NO
REPATRIATION
YES
Trade deal with Japan when?
>>79243911
>>79243757
Atleast an Anglo navy will always rule the world? Maybe when we get Canada and Australia back we can build some more CVs.
Most of the US ones were built decades ago and could be taken down by our daring class.
I've been living under a rock due to work /pol/ redpill me on Theresa May and why Boris is suddenly a massive traitor
>>79244282
nah m80, we have some ace-in-the-hole bullshit Seawolf-class SSNs that are quieter. There's only 3 but they're OP as fuck. If they want to go dark, even our fleet couldn't find them. A submariner decribed them to me as "a hole in the water" on sonar.
>>79243911
better b8 m8
>Theresa fucking May is the Tory leadership favourite.
That's it. No. There's nothing you can say to me that will stop me pushing for Scottish independence. NO.
>>79244553
Hmm that's true actually. Sturgeon would have a way easier time with May in charge.
>>79244490
w-we can still beat argentina though.. when we get our only carrier next year..
>>79244284
>>79244284
I still don't know why anyone finds anal sex appealing. Other than faggots, but they're broken anyway.
>>79244284
i dont really know, since im a burger, but i guess may wants to ban 4chan and watch you with cctv cameras while you jerk off to approved porn
boris published an article where it seemed like he was waffling on brexit, but then said he was tired and repudiated the article
>>79244490
Sounds like some serious hunt for red october shit.
We need Moggy, write to him guys.
Can't flog the Rees-Mogg
>>79244490
>"a hole in the water" on sonar.
Are they the ones that have to artificially make themselves louder because they figured out they were so quiet you could detect them because they really did leave a hole in the water?
>>79244490
But it's a shame all that power is mostly wasted fighting sandniggers in insurgency warfare now. I bet the US brass misses the Soviets.
>>79245124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7g6dKncO-I
>>79245079
he's backing Boris
>>79244284
Boris was backsliding and May is a lover of Big Brother, she also declared for remain but that seemed to just be politics
>>79245079
Stacey Tong has got it going on.
>>79245233
I know, but we can do so much better, we need a statesman- not fucking Boris
>>79244284
She needs to get laid
>>79240906
May with Deputy PM Boris
>>79245338
>tfw posted from a hit and run email so couldn,'t get a reply
Feels bad.
>>79245124
yeah, they're so quiet it's almost suspicious to see on sonar.
>>79245166
Don't I fucking know it. My dad (who happens to also be my Brigade SGM) says the 80s were the best time ever for the Army. I'm sure the Navy was riding high too, after Top Gun came out.
>>79245338
she sounds hot, I wonder if he picked her up in hong kong
>>79245338
how many MPs you think even know about this place?
>>79245338
The mail must be piling up, if we can just let him know that he's wanted I think he will run. He doesn't seem to have the appetite for power that the others have, so our messages are even more important.
>>79241442
Invoke article 5. Order an air and missile attack on the russian fleet.
>>79245659
Imagine Tong having to tell him how many "restore empire pls" emails he's gotten.
>>79245436
I got a hand written reply from him a a couple of months ago, his handwriting is exactly like you would expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkLPxQp_y0
did Current Year Man cover this event well?
>>79245436
>>79245659
Doesn't matter, I'd imagine it's too late now for him to announce his intention to run anyway unfortunately.
>>79245494
Perhaps!
>>79245521
/pol/? Anyone's guess..
btw lads if you want a static link as a bookmark to this general:
http://thailad.zz.mu/pol
or if you want the source to host your own let me know.
>The Gang try to coup Jeremy Corbyn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idoYCVLh2qI
>>79245917
>ex-pat tv show cuck complaining about the result
bet he didn't even vote.
>>79240666
>>Pound Sterling begins to rise again
That was supposed to be our little secret you beastly fuck.
>>79245976
Hope he stays on desu.
The Blairites need purged.
[p.s. Chilcot SOON]
>>79245521
I hope the answer is zero. I don't think Mr Mogg would appreciate us portraying him as an SS officer
>>79243257
Reading insider Labour party forums is hilarious
>The labour membership are violent communist tory entryists troglodytes who love the tories and want them to win, thats why we need a new neoliberal candidate.
Seriously, seen all those words used against the Labour membership.
>>79246180
I can't wait for Chilcot man, it's been years.
>>79245976
The Blarites will be purged, it will be glorious.
>Thomas Mair
fuck all since 23rd
How is this conversation on BBC news happening?
Either they both speak French and English or the conversation can't take place.
>>79246203
What would Wedgwood Benn think to his son being a Blairite?
>>79245659
He can't win because he doesn't have the support of the wider party. We can hope he gets a cabinet position if Boris wins, since he's backing Boris.
>>79240666
Farage rules so hard. Props to Nigel, looks like the UKIP is on the right side.
>>79246504
Based.
>>79246504
Interesting isn't it? I wonder if we'll ever hear about his trial again.
How accurately does this portray you, lads?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ-9R6NCZ0A
How much scope is there for circumventing the EU and dealing directly with the big boys once the negotiations really start? unofficially or otherwise.
I would think undermining Brussels' legitimacy at every opportunity the way to go.
>>79245917
re-watching this, I'm reminded of how glad I am that Scottish Labour was violently destroyed.
Never before has a political implosion been so deserved.
Unless England send everyone in Labour who voted for Iraq to the Hague. Which would be wonderful.
I'm starting to think that Moggy is the greatest Brit alive at the moment. BASED Nige has the heart and charisma, surely, but the subtle genius of Moggy is starting to present itself. He cuts through the confusion.
>>79246954
The European Council is made up of all the heads of state (Cameron, Merkel, Hollande etc). They will be ballbusting the Commission if they threaten their national economies.
>>79247069
I used to always back the underdogs, but it's become such a tiring endeavour.
I wish him well.
>>79246506
translators and spliced together probably
>>79247069
What does he actually do that's based? Is it literally just le contrarian posho meme?
>>79247498
He's apparently best pals with Angus Macneil so...
>>79247498
Besides being a fountain of lucidity and crushing rationality he's a force in holding the front bench to some kind account.
TOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HsTvxOgiAE
LEL
>>79247498
He articulates the case for exit extremely well and has been projecting a sense of statesmanlike calm while everyone else panics about the brexit
>Spain and France KILL OFF Nicola Sturgeon's hopes of joining the EU in brutal humiliation
>>79247797
source?
>>79247498
He projects the oppressed feelings of the British majority to the most powerful people in the EU, to the globe. For the last decade he has fought from an extremely minority position to said majority. He has endured the torrential media ridicule and outcry, and it hasn't changed his persona, character and zeal one iota.
(He also has a masterful understanding of EU politicoeconomic and socioeconomic climate throughout all sectors of EU business)
Seriously though, why does /pol/ love Moggy?
At least the fucking leafs have a nice parliament building.
>re-watching this, I'm reminded of how glad I am that Scottish Labour was violently destroyed.
Labour deserves to be fucked for how fucking completely out of touch it is and how pretentiously they look down on the electorate.
The past few days are a great example of this, Corbyn has the massive super majority of support in his party, but because the MP's don't want to go the direction of the membership and finally accept blairism and the neoliberal ideal is dead, they white ant Corbyn from day one, paralyze the opposition from functioning, then blame Corbyn for their own refusing to ever work with him.
I go talk on Labour boards and talk to other anti-Corbyn Labour members and I shit you not, this is their plan:
>Purge Corbyn
>Put in place a "moderate" (Blairite)
>Work with the Conservatives
>The community will vote us back into power in a snap election.
That's it, that is their entire plan. They think Blairism is the solution to their problem. They say the electorate has been moving to the right, but they ignore this is because there has been no working class left for near 30 years in mainstream politics and when it reappeared at the Labour leadership election last year, they collectively shit themselves.
These idiots don't realize Neoliberalism is dead and the reason they are becoming irrelevant is because why in fuck would you vote for red tories when you can just vote tories?
It's actually crazy how much the PLP and it's sychophants are with the political reality. For the past 3 days, I've had "IT WORKED IN 1997" thrown in my face.
Yeah, no major event or change in the political landscape since 1997, can't think of a single fucking one.
Labour is fucked. The hilarious thing is, these Blairites are complaining that "The left is hijacking the Labour party" while Thatcher called New Labour "her greatest achievement since it continued so many of her policies"
>>79247848
For that exact headline:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/684593/Brexit-Nicola-Sturgeon-keep-Scotland-in-EU-France-Spain
but there's a lot if you google, also I just heard it on sky news so they're about to talk about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg
>>79247797
alri Thailad
>>79248077
alri
>>79247942
>they white ant Corbyn
???
>>79248134
It's a political term for saying they destroy the structure of the party. It refers to Termites.
>>79247797
>>79247980
It's a pretty stupid headline given they're basically giving her exactly what she wants.
Sturgeon: "Can we stay in the EU as part of the UK"
EU: "No."
Sturgeon: "But we want to be in the EU"
EU: "If only there were some kind of method of extracting Scotland from the UK and keeping it in the EU...A sort of 'Scottish Independence' if you will..."
>Following a summit of 27 EU leaders in Brussels, he told a news conference: "I want to be very clear Scotland does not have the competence to negotiate with the European Union.
i.e. it's basically the obvious "Sturgeon cannot stop Brexit" as opposed to "We will veto an independent Scotland joining the EU", if Scotland left the UK then it would have the competence to make such negotiations.
>>79247942
>muh 'real left' electorate
You're just as delusional as the Blairites.
ALL research shows that Labour's electoral losses are caused by being too far left.
No one says 'hmmm, I care about unions and workers rights but the Labour party of today isn't *exactly* right, so I'll vote for the Conservatives who want to abolish them instead'.
>>79248134
>It is often used in reference to groups such as political parties or organisations where information from group insiders is 'leaked' or used to undermine the goals of the group. The Macquarie Dictionary says the verb "to white-ant" means "to subvert or undermine from within".
>>79240666
>The European Union is a project of peace.
What did he mean by this?
>>79247848
It was always obvious. Spain was unequivocal about this when Scotland had their referendum. An independent Scotland is never joining the EU.
They're either with the UK, or alone.
>>79247751
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/dec/02/owen-jones-jacob-rees-mogg-no-easy-answers-syria
Who is that guy? He's interviewing moggy here.
>>79247727
>>79247769
>>79247872
These
Shame that at the end of the day he's a backbencher with zero real power whatsoever, which suits him fine
>>79248461
It says Owen Jones you illiterate burgercuck
>>79247915
Mostly it can be boiled down to authenticity. Or at least the perception of it.
>>79248293
Unless they change some pretty major rules, an independent Scotland wouldn't even be eligible for membership. Such as their deficit.
Also I'm curious if the Scots would accept the Euro as is a requirement for any new member state.
>>79248364
No dissent allowed.
>>79248535
I'm not asking his name, you irritable potatofucker
I'm asking why do UK people give a fuck about him?
>>79248535
NO SURRENDER
>>79248312
>ALL research shows that Labour's electoral losses are caused by being too far left.
A large part of this is just people spouting platitudes.
It's not about being left/right. The Blairites had one thing right: the electorate are fucking idiots. All Labour needs is an attractive young man with a good speaking voice to lead them and explain their policies in a way that makes them seem like a steady pair of hands and they would be laughing regardless of policy.
I mean seriously. Look at all the "too left wing" Labour candidates and it's very easy to tell that regardless of policy, none of them was a PM in waiting. Foot? Kinnock? Milliband? Fuck policy, they were never going to win.
It's worth noting the electorate is to the left on many issues including rail and power nationalization.
>>79248364
Ready and willing to accommodate the corresponding religion.
>>79248680
Use Google amerifat
>>79248680
We don't. The media just have him on 24/7.
I remember when he was an irrelevent cuck, now he gets on actual political shows.
>>79248635
>Such as their deficit.
Isn't this only a factor for joining the Euro?
>Also I'm curious if the Scots would accept the Euro as is a requirement for any new member state.
If they don't get a veto, Scotland will do a Sweden: Sign up in principle, but refuse to join ERM2 [which Sweden maintains is voluntary.] and use a non-Euro currency.
>>79248312
>ALL research shows that Labour's electoral losses are caused by being too far left.
I think this ignores certain things.
One of the biggest problems for the left in the UK isn't so much the electorate, but the media. The media never, ever accepts actual working class left wing arguments as legitimate. Corbyn, which 30 years ago was a bog standard Social Democrat, is now a radical communist maoist insurgent.
The Overton window has now shifted largely to a debate between nativist populism and neoliberalism, anything outside that debate is considered "extremist". The reason the media was so against Brexit, is not because of the racism or xenophobia, but because the mainstream media has sided with Neoliberals and is filled with neoliberals, in reaction, the right wing media has gone nativist/nationalist (alt-right) because they know the public is turning against the Neoliberal argument.
If you actually look at the VIEWS of the electorate. All parties are actually quite far to the right of where people want to be: People want protectionist policies, people want nationalization, people want strong unions, but nobody in any of the major parties really supports any of this. This is where Corbyn comes in. Look at rail nationalization, almost unanimous support among the public, who is the only MP who supports it? Corbyn.
Here is the sad truth about Politics, policy doesn't matter. The vast, vast majority of the electorate vote the way the media tells them to vote. If the media wanted, UKIP could win the next election, but you would have to see a massive ideological shift away from neoliberalism for that to happen.
>>79248889
not bad desu
>>79248726
>labour
>supposed to be economically left wing and socially right wing
>blairism
>economically right wing and socially left wing
Why is this allowed? I hate Corbyn's policies as much as the next edgy neo nazi but atleast he does what it says on the tin.
>>79248489
>>79248584
I mean, he sounds intelligent, but he doesn't sound like a man of the people, he sounds like very old school, privately educated Tory, you know? More so than Cameron in fact.
>>79243206
Now then, now then!
>>79240666
Kek
>>79242449
>mfw the entire white population prays to a middle eastern Jew every Sunday
>>79249001
None of that's a problem for /pol/
>>79247751
There is no hope...
>>79249068
Jesus was Judean, not Jewish, on many occasions in the Bible he explicitly defies and rejects Jewish law
Also
>entire white population
>>79247942
The best thing is they have literally no leadership options.
Corbyn is shit, but who the fuck else are you going to put in his place? The only person I can think of is the guy who was a soldier, because he was a soldier and err... Patriotism and stuff.
It's absolutely laughable that they think Blairism is the solution to anything but voter turnout being too high, though. Or that they refer to Iraqi murdering surveilance fetishism as being "centrist"
Especially when "Blair/Brown spent too much" is the big meme right now. Yeah, good job guys, make sure to call back to them as much as possible! Remember, the fact they presided over a strong economy by not doing anything = they created a strong economy!
>>79249152
Kek
>>79249036
Glad somebody got it.
>>79249001
Ya a lot of people on brit/pol/ seem to agree with you that he's not electable for that reason.
I don't really see why that should matter, but I don't think I really understand how Brits think.
>>79249227
>>79248461
Has there ever been a greater paragon of Britishness?
>>79249324
Still obsessed with class.
>>79249227
Farage's facial dexterity reminds me of Rowan Atkinson.
>>79249179
>Jesus wasn't Jewish
lad..
>Merkel and Brussels have outright already refused an EEA+ agreement that gives UK migration control, passporting and single market access.
>What is passporting? All banks registered in UK have a "passport" that allows them to do business with whole EU. The City depends on it.
>Base case is Berlin and Brussels plan to insist on an EEA- (i.e. a worse deal than Norway) that excludes passporting, migration controls.
>This would however allow services to continue to have access to the singoe market. But not financial services. Mass migration continues.
>This is formal offer. But Paris is planning a turn of cynical brilliance - that could at a stroke smite London and restore Paris to glory.
>France cynicallly intends to offer Britain an EEA- that excludes passporting, but givs them a migration cap, and single market access.
>This is a brilliant move: "you get less Poles, but we want your banks." It would be in France's interests to encourage UK out to get banks.
>But the cynical French deal would be exactly the kind of cap migration, free movement for us and single market deal that the public want.
>The next Tory muchkin leader would then be a hideous position: have his tax base slasshed at by loss of banks as his voters rejoice.
>Paris and Frankfurt would emerge as enormous winners by ending passporting. Hugely boosting popularity of French and German leadership.
>British public will be left moronically clapping the huge triumph of a few less Poles and the punishment for "bankers" and tax base slashed.
>City analysts I met look with unbrindled distain on a Tory leadership class they think are simply muppets. No clue what's about to hit them.
>Conclusion: No matter the outcome UK financial sector is FUCKED and bye bye to banks. London collapses. Banks abandon England. Meanwhile the British people are cheering this on as a win.
>>79248889
>30 years ago was a bog standard Social Democrat
Not really. 30 years ago he was still on the left of the labour party.
His policies now as articulated, perhaps. [For all he's perceived as a right-on nationalizer, as far as I can work out he even has the meme commitment to cutting the deficit down.] but his preferences as they were 30 years ago would've been to the left.
For all he's maligned, Kinnock sort of hit social democracy on policy a bit better. One has to wonder how John Smith would've handled being granted power without a fight in 1997.
>>79249432
Seriously. How based is this cunt?
>>79248680
He's just a lefty Guardianista journalist. How these people get jobs is anyone's guess.
>>79249390
Your mum's baps.
>>79248889
well said
>>79249432
kek, last week I read that like 100 drug dealers have already been killed by vigilante groups since he won the election
>>79249440
And what if France decides to follow suit and walk away from the EU?
>>79248889
We only want the rails nationalised because they're shit at the moment.
>>79249432
>government kills criminals
>bad
>vigilante pinoys kill criminals
>good
based wikipedia
>>79249324
Think as we've seen, there's still a lot of working class voters. It's only very recently Tories have taken favour and honestly thats probably mostly due to Labour being such a fuck up for 13 years (and now this Blaire-ite revolt may well make them unelectable).
People trust Conservatives with an economy but there's still a lot of distrust of them, they're often perceived as the rich and elite trying to line the pockets of their friends (which of course, in reality, most politicians, from any party, are).
Moggy may sound a little too posh. A bit too much like old-money. He sounds very much like the old stereotype of old British education that hasn't really been a reality for half a century or more.
>>79249179
They are not mutually exclusive. And he considered the Jews "his people". He is definitely ethnically Jewish, and the Testament was derived from the Torah.
At least Brevik had the decency to convert to Odinism.
>entire white population
Except the atheists
>>79249432
>most peaceful city
Bullshit, that's Singapore.
>>79249970
How can one be at peace without the liberty to chew gum at one's leasure?
>>79247980
Mnnnhhhh such delicious Sturgeon tears.
>>79249970
Aren't you separate?
bless his white cotton socks
www . youtube . com/watch?v=szGxq3pvJPQ
>>79250055
Just got me chuddy licence, lads. The hubba bubba's on me.
>>79250138
>the 11 o-clock show
simpler times
>>79250138
www.youtube.com/watch?v=szGxq3pvJPQ
>>79248849
Hundreds of complex rules aside, including requirements Scotland don't meet. It'd take time for a newly independent Scotland to join, we're talking years of them having to support their own economy.
and as you say, veto
>Spain would be likely to veto an independent Scotland joining the EU amid fears it could encourage Catalonia to seek its own independence.
>>79250055
We are at peace with all the money we have.
Little known fact is you can chew gum. You just can't import it in large amounts or sell it, or spit it out in any place but a trash can.
>If you can't think without chewing, try a banana
Based Lee Kuan Yew, eternal prime minister of Singapore
>>79250091
From what? The entire country is a city
>>79250359
the point is there's virtually no downside for her.
>>79249001
>sound like a man of the people
There's misconception here. He doesn't have to "be" (better put: fit into) any echelon of the population to serve in their interests. This brings in another misconception - short term/long term economic vision. Nige recognises that trade deals, the exchange rate (lower GBP:USD/EUR) and emphasis on domestic transactions guarantees a better socioeconomic climate for the UK. It's overly simplistic, but you can think of importation as leaking money out of the country, exportation stealing from others. The economic model that presents itself from us leaving puts a far greater incentive on the protectionist model where domestic business feeds off of each other, minimising that leakage. It's a vision of the future, and what China has been very very quietly doing for the last 40 years (hardcore the last 15), and it's brought them from a starving nation to the second economy of the world. Soon enuogh they will hold the crown.
This is, however, inaccesible insight to the majority of the population and they won't be able to take it on board until they see the effects themselves. Which is a big shame, but as long as Nige can keep up the level of zeal and public inclusion into this "Leave" pack mentality, we should get there without any hiccups.
This is the most exciting time to be alive in a long long time.
>>79240666
Who is the dude in the OP pic and why is he better than Boris?
>>79250454
yeah sorry I didn't realise the thing said whole of SE Asia.
>>79250806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szGxq3pvJPQ
>>79250359
>It'd take time for a newly independent Scotland to join, we're talking years of them having to support their own economy
It's possible as events develop this won't be the case. We're into uncharted territory, after all. Even moreso than 2014.
>Spain would be likely to veto an independent Scotland joining the EU amid fears it could encourage Catalonia to seek its own independence.
This is a meme though.
The position of Spain is that Catalonia cannot leave because it would be unconstitutional in Spain, as opposed to "we hate self determination", Similarly Kosovo independence isn't constitutional in Serbia so they don't recognize it.
Scotland leaving with recognition from the UK would be within the UK's "constitution" so to speak, and so Spain would on the contrary have to allow Scottish entry or make it laughably obvious that their true position is hatred for self-determination.
While Spain would obviously prefer not to be put in that position at all [Save for Spanish fishermen hoping to get at Scottish waters.], once put in it their behaviour towards Scotland is far from naturally hostile.
When I said veto, I really should've said opt-out for clarification.
>>79250454
>try a banana
Bit Freudian t-b-h.
>>79249440
>suddenly all these leftist cucks who hated the Finance sector with a burning passion are internationalist capitalists
lol
>>79249761
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? In the year 2016 do you really think the French are so XENOPHOBIC and BIGOTTED?
>>79249440
There's a lot you're failing to understand about why London is the financial capital of the world, and why it's going to take a lot to usurp that.
First, Britain secured an exception from the EU's banking union project which was directly responsible for the eurozone crisis in 2009. Had they been subject to it, London would have crashed along with you. It basically subjects financial institutions to a single authority called the European Central Bank. London's banks have the Bank of England with sole responsibility for maintaining financial stability, an institution they have enormous trust in.
The BoE decides how much capital the banks need to hold against their assets, decides banker bonus caps and limits the maximum amount of capital people can take out in loans. This is finely tuned in an almost symbiotic relationship with the needs of the City.
The EU's central bank also favours much more regulation of the banking sector, which is partly why only London and Zurich are the only cities in Europe with truly flourishing financial centers, they're both outside the remit of this heavy regulation.
Currently Brussels also has caps on banker bonuses which Britain relaxes. There's a whole list of shit the EU does which simply stifles the industry but I don't have the space for it here.
Britain will be asking for the passport in exchange for no tariffs on European goods being sold into Britain. The multinational banks and the multinational corporations will all want this deal to happen - so I think it will.
>>79250937
>We're into uncharted territory, after all.
True enough, but it's probably better to go by what we know such as membership requirements, what other member states are actually saying, the historical evidence of other countries with even more to offer trying to join and so forth.
I think it's quite fair to say Scotland's only chance is the EU allowing them a special pass simply to spite the UK.
>>79251539
This all day long.
The volume of economic misinformation has been stratospheric, but then of course this is the easiest area to pedal fear given the general lack of knowledge.
Both The Economist and FT should be ashamed at this point.
>>79245904
did you send him a letter? are you a constituent? pls i want to get one...
scots actually think they would survive as an independent country
Can someone post that funny image where it says Ukip promises to legalize dank memes and attach a thruster to the Earth and launch it into the sun?
>>79252162
s c o t l a n d
>>79252258
>>79252258
here you go lad
>>79252322
>not being the top right
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>79252322
Thanks, lmao
>>79252422
Thank you too, i love you
>>79252162
North Sea break even price? $80? hmm
>>79251539
>stifles the industry
For good goddamn reason
England is the center of global financial corruption, no other place on earth, not even Wall Street comes close.
>>79252322
This is brilliant
>>79242449
>Implying London is part of England
>>79252429
>being top anything
top lel
>>79251975
Britain has also been fighting against a "robin hood" tax Brussels wants to impose on the financial sector, but now Britain is out of that fight since it left the EU. The Banks themselves don't want to be in Europe under the ECB. They want to be in London with the BoE and the lax regulation the British impose on them.
The didn't want to leave to begin with. Very rarely do these kinds of forces not get their way twice in a row.
>>79252510
I didn't pass comment about whether London's banking cartel is a good thing. But it is very important.
>>79252162
"SNP fantasy" is the worst meme.
Everyone was predicting a high oil price.
>But the SNP's was at the high end!
>>79252269
If anything this is an argument for independence.
>Scotland, we're better together! Look, we've mismanaged you horribly and left you with a notional deficit based on the policies currently enacted... Reject the option of new policies!
>>79252789
If Scotland go independent they will take a share of the national debt, have no currency, no central bank and a huge spending deficit on day 1. Within months the country could literally fall apart.
I'm looking forwards to Scotland leaving tbqh
>>79252789
>>79252939
Why even call it independence if Scotland are going to be massively reliant upon the EU for funding?
>>79252939
It's not a winnable campaign. There's no way.
>>79252789
Scotland is a meme. Kilts and haggis and painting yoruselves blue. You're a meme country.
>>79253059
because scots actually believe selling themselves to the eternal kraut = Independence
>huge mandate
>overwhelming majority
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>79253174
Shameful when you think about it.
>>79252789
>left you with a notional deficit based on the policies currently enacted
>implying the SNP's policy of free gibsmeat for all wont bankrupt Scotland
>>79252322
Best meme yet.
>>79252939
>they will take a share of the national debt
While this is almost certain, it isn't entirely guaranteed.
>have no currency
Creation of a new currency is an option. Alternatively: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14339041.Former_Bank_of_England_governor__An_independent_Scotland_could_keep_the_pound/
>no central bank
See "creation of a new currency"
>>79253059
Because - get this - Scotland could make decisions for itself in all policy areas. If Scotland dislikes EU decisions in a certain area, it retains the option of up and leaving.
If Scotland wants to leave the EU, it would ask Holyrood instead of Brussels, unlike the UK where it has to ask London.
>>79253115
Countries as a whole are a meme.
>>79253372
Meanwhile the only gibsmedat in the white paper was improved childcare provision.
But all of this is utterly irrelevant because even if absolutely everything went nightmarishly wrong and Scotland was sucked into a nightmare void from which no light can escape, with Alex Salmond and Satan as dictators for life and unending bombardment and war-crimes from a Russo-Chinese invasion to pillage enough to repay denbts it would STILL beat TERESA FUCKING MAY as Prime Minister.
>>79253712
>new currency
enjoy your worthless monopoly money
Who is this exotic lovely on BBC lads? I'm not usually up at this hour.
>>79240906
Of course it's Mei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW1_eYiBdBI
In retrospect, Moggy was 100% right and Osborne was 100% wrong.
>>79241335
He has no idea what he is doing, that's why. He did not expect to win and now he's fucked.
He's realized Cameron has dumped a huge mess on him
Also, MPs cannot go on holiday as the public will tear them new assholes.
>>79254047
There's a meme in there somewhere.
Was BREXIT worth it if Theresa May gets in power?
Is having freedom from the EU better than having likely irreversible anti-privacy laws put in place that could very easily stop British Flags ever being seen on /pol/ again?
>>79253712
>If Scotland dislikes EU decisions in a certain area, it retains the option of up and leaving.
You could never leave the EU if you managed to join, you would be well and truly fucked and you know it.
You'd have to take anything they threw at you and be grateful for it.
>>79252322
>FUCK anime
I don't know why but the caps make it so kudh funnier.
>>79241459
This takes 3 months because lazy MPs in the UK have a longer summer holiday than schoolkids.
>>79254160
>You'd have to take anything they threw at you and be grateful for it.
In the short term, no doubt. In the long term, you never know what may happen.
>>79244490
Submariner here:
All submarines are that quiet. You ever hear about submarines colliding? Happens a lot more often than you would think, because they're all essentially invisible. The only way you ever find them is by getting their propeller sonar signature, or if they fuck up. Which did happen, I was doing war games with a boomer and we got so close we could hear them talking on their 1mc during drills
>>79242406
Boris wanted Turkey in the EU a few years ago.
>>79253712
Joining the EU means you'd have to adopt the euro (with the ECB dictating financial policy) and the schengen agreement. It's mandatory for new members. This is assuming Spain is willing to let you in.
Somme anniversary lads.
>discussing death penalty on plebbit
>"If the other person is right, and the science is against you, this sounds more like you just want to kill people rather than stopping crime."
Fuck lads, they're on to me.
>>79254362
Also Schengen means that England-Scottish border would not be open to free travel, or there would have been no point in BREXIT cause they'd just come in through there.
>>79254362
>Joining the EU means you'd have to adopt the euro (with the ECB dictating financial policy)
No it doesn't.
It means we'd have to commit to the vague ideal of joining the Euro. Scotland could not currently join the Euro even if it wanted to do so.
Sweden is "on track" to joining the Euro, but because they refuse to enter ERM2 and ERM2 membership for 2 years is required to join the Euro, Sweden will almost certainly never join the Euro.
>>79240906
I just want Nige to be PM desu
May's appointment as Minister for Women and Equality was initially criticised by some members of the LGBT/gay rights movement,[108] since she had voted against lowering the age of consent (in 1998) and against greater adoption rights for homosexuals (in 2002), though she had voted in favour of civil partnerships.[109][110] May later stated, during an appearance on the BBC's Question Time, that she had "changed her mind" on gay adoption.[111] Writing for Pink News in June 2010, May clarified her proposals for improving LGBT rights including measures to tackle homophobia in sport, advocating British society's need for "cultural change".[112]
On 2 July 2010, May stated she would be supporting the previous Labour Government's Anti-Discrimination Laws enshrined in the Equality Act 2010 despite having previously opposed it.[113] The Equality Act came into effect in England, Wales and Scotland on 1 October 2010.[114] She did however announce that a clause she dubbed "Harman's Law"[115] which would have required public bodies to consider how they can reduce socio-economic inequalities when making decisions about spending and services[116] would be scrapped on the grounds that it was "unworkable".[117]
In May 2012, May expressed support for the introduction of Same-Sex Marriage by recording a video for the Out4Marriage campaign.[118]
May was succeeded as Minister for Women and Equalities by Maria Miller in September 2012, but retained her role as Home Secretary
may is not a good choice
hnnnngggghh
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