https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP5fbiWqi6o
Can /pol/ absolutely recover from this? After all, what Shapiro is saying is pretty much true.
>>79230770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpkbtwKRVFc
And does it again in the second part. When will /pol/ realize that they are the "cucks" Shapiro is talking about in here?
I do agree yelling cuck doesnt help much in certian situations it does help to point out how thin skinned the left is
>>79232964
I don't really agree with ben here, even though I usually like him, which is rare here on /pol/
I mean both sides are going to have keyboard warriors, the left SJWs are hundreds of times worse and louder than we are. I'm almost 30 years old, i'm an oldfag and I do in fact live in the real world, but /pol/ is still funny as heck to me. People just have to stop expecting that every keyboard warrior is going to make changes rather than shitpost.
Yelling cuck is no worse than yelling "DAS RACIST!!", which to be fair, ben has called out "that's racist" arguments a lot of times.
>>79233635
I'm a shapiro fag too, pretty much agree with everything he says except nevertrump
The Michelle fields thing made me stop listening to him though, it was embarassing
>>79230770
I'm a girl.
Ama
>>79230770
>I am against political correctness
>Untill i'm not
He's such a cuck
>>79233935
is that where he was whiteknighting that lady that got pushed by trump staff when he was at breitbart?
Yeah that was pretty dumb
>>79230770
no body cares Ben
He is exposed for life after the Michelle Fields stunt
>>79230770
Benlet's argument is actually pretty well-reasoned, but he is talking about an Australian shitposting forum, after all.
The guy who asked him the question sounds like a bona fide cuck. Look at the way he giggles when Benlet validates his beliefs. Disgusting desu
>>79234030
LONDON?
>>79234108
Technically it was battery but it was justified, she was approaching trump without permission.
Of course she cries crocodile tears about it and shapiro jumps in to her defence, because he'll take any evidence to imply Trump supports violence.
>S
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>>79233635
>/pol/ is still funny as heck to me
That's the thing Ben is missing. It's not only provocation for the sake of provocation but because of the fun of it. We piss off people who believe they have a legitimate claim at the regulation of speech, thoughts and standards of behavior. We ridicule a certain outlook on life that says that pride is a bad thing and that whatever is foreign is both good and must be aggressively sought no matter the cost. We ridicule people who insist on making us believe that nothing good ever came out of the west and that nothing better could happen to the world than its disappearance.
We're telling people who are full of shit and think they matter to go fuck themselves. There is some value in telling people "fuck you I won't do what you tell me", because to do otherwise is to recognize their claim to authority.
>>79234030
post penis
>benji throws it all away to defend a lying whore because it fit his little 'i hate trump' narrative
He is the one who will never recover.
sage
>>79234030
Would you rather date a Bernie cuck, or an Alt-right shitposter? Assume that both adhere to every bad stereotype assigned to them.
>>79230770
BASED
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whats it like being so absolutely ravaged
>>79234774
Not an argument.
>>79234968
YES IT FUCKING IS
>>79234919
It probably feels better than being 5'8"
>>79230770
"BTFO" and "Can x ever recover?" in the OP should be instant permaban. Sort it the fuck out, HiroNEETo.
Shapiro turned full merchant after the Fields "incident." Fuck the greasy little mutant.
Please insult me more Ben-sama
He's not wrong
>>79233935
He flushed his credibility down the shitter with that one.
Friendly reminder he is a Jew and a manlet.
Disregard argument accordingly.
>>79235261
>thinks perma bans can stop anyone with brain
>doesn't know how to change ip
Kys newfag
>>79230770
He's still 5'6'
Ben doesn't understand that Milo is also an entertainer while he gets stuff done. You don't get young people into these things by speaking like a sperg constantly. Milo knows the gay Paris Hilton role works and when it's needed he drops the dumb blonde act.
Bullshit. I'm not obese. I am married and masturbate in my own basement where my wife's son won't catch me.
>ben "triggered by the merchant" shapiro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsBO2q7NHGM
>>79235556
No, but he is wrong about Trump not condemning the less savory parts of his fanbase.
1) He did condemn David Duke immediately, on multiple occasions, on both Twitter and national TV. Media reported the opposite.
2) There's no need for him to condemn the 'alt-right' or 4chan shitposters, because doing so would only bring more attention to speech that would be more effectively ignored.
3) Other candidates like Bernie did nothing to condemn the people waving hammer-and-sickle flags at his rallies.
There will always be extremists supporting either candidate in a general election. It's a natural byproduct of a two-party political system.
Oy vey shut it down
>>79230770
lel I've never heard his voice before
what a little weasel
Shapiro is right-wing and anti-immigration but he's probably heard thru the grapevine that Trump doesn't worship jews and that's why he shills against him.
He's a Jewish supremacist who believes whites should be 2nd best with all the shitskins underneath basically
>>79230770
>1000 views
POL BTFO
>>79236346
All Jews believe they are superior.
They call everyone else goy for fucks sake
>>79236601
jews are duplicitous like women too. what they say is usually totally different than what they want.
They will go to the ends of the earth to deny any kind of jewish superiority but then those same people will only marry jewish people, will hire all their jewish cronies, etc.
>>79230770
manlet shapiro, who gets btfo by fucking pierce morgan
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/715200334042234880
>>79233635
I actually like him too but he should know better. Shitposting from our mum's basement is a god given right none of us will relinquish.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/benshapiro
>>79237083
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>79235675
lol
>>79230770
Hmm, what is that thing on his head...
>>79234968
Actually it's more of a statement. Ben is correct, and the quoted people are not.
>>79230770
YOU THINK SAYING NIGGER IS COOL? HUH DO YOU? WELL IT'S NOT.
Wow thanks Ben.
>>79237934
But I'm one of the people he quoted, and I said Ben has a decent argument.
Does not compute.
>>79238050
Ok, you are exempt. Carry on.
>>79230770
Will he ever answer why he, a Hahhhhhvad attorney, felt obligated to lie about Michelle Fields being "thrown to the ground" repeatedly?
>>79230770
Manlet (((ben))) is wound up a bit too tight. His jumbotron ego has taken over himself. He's not quite as great as his image of himself. I like much of his work. But he's lacking humor. His confidence is glib and shallow. Oye, he'll burn out before long.
>>79235175
He looked several inches shorter than Cruz who is 5'9". He's not 5'8".
Anyway, Ben is obviously an intelligent man but he's definitely assblasted because we hit a nerve with the Jew memes and the fearlessness with which we use racial slurs for Jews. What he doesn't really understand is that /pol/ is mostly insular (calls to raid discouraged, etc) and I don't feel as though any board on 4chan is trying to start a revolution so much as we're reacting to the liberal lunacy we see in a puerile way. Milo is the faggot showing us to the world and writing articles about us and then trying to claim it's all one big joke (it's not, we actually do hate kikes), that blame shouldn't rest on our shoulders.
For the record I don't smoke pot and I jerk off maybe twice a week, I try not to do it at all, so fuck you Ben you tiny ass motherfucker.
>>79235261
>X BTFO, how can Y recover, posters are now being ghost banned
how can reddit even compete
>inb4 ghost ban
I still like Ben.
>>79230770
>Milo doesn't stand for anything!
Is.... is that a fucking joke?
I mean, I get it. Absolutely he is a provocateur, and I do object to the overly flamboyant way in which Milo acts MUCH of the time. However, to say that Milo is an unprincipled attention seeker who only chases after his own glorification is intellectually dishonest at best.
There is a reason almost no one here talks about Ben anymore in a positive manner. He is more of a vestigial remnant of the classical liberal religious right than he is a part of some new anti-PC crowd today.
Milo connects more with young people than Ben does, simply because he found a way to tap into the inherent love for freedom that many people in the West still hold. Sure, he does it in a debauched and overly-classless way, but he still DOES it.
Milo managed to forge alliances between right-wing and libertarian-minded conservatives and the gays.... which is something that no one ever thought possible. What I mean by all of this is that Milo is a bridge builder who comes across as a forward thinking and liberty loving gay man who just wants people to be able to live freely as they please. On the other hand, Ben strikes me as a regressive-minded Luddite who smacks of the neo-conservatism that I despise so much.
Image related.
Should I care when the kikelet gets into a spat with kikefag?
>>79239030
You shouldn't care about anything he says.
He career should be deader than Brian Williams after his ridiculous white Knighting for that fraudulent whore.
He's over, and what's left is an echo of a once promising career.
>>79230770
Never seen a kike get so salty before oy vey what a shoa
>>79239324
>He's over, and what's left is an echo of a once promising career.
Milo has replaced him.
>>79230770
>>79230770
I LOVE THAT BEN AND MILO HAVE BEEF. JEW VS JEW
>>79230770
>2minute video
fuck off
>>79240189
>fuck off
He calls Milo an unprincipled clown who is out only for his own self-indulgence.
That is the entire video, essentially.
>>79234030
Hello female human
I am a male human
It is our duty to procreate for the furtherance of the species
Employers can't search 4chan for names, idiot. The social network are VOLUNTARY shackles. Why can't people get this?
>>79230770
>be butthurt without bonds about /pol/ specifically
>even post shill threads like this on /pol/
>hurr what are you talking about. who is this guy called pol, they are all cucks and basement dwellers. BTFO HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
when will they learn?
Hey Ben, I've always supported you and I both smoke pot and masturbate.
>BTFO by Shapiro
The only think that Jew BTFO was his own career.
Stupid cuck.
>>79230770
based shapiro, king of /pol/
>>79238991
Milo is a fucking faggot, and so are you for sucking his cock so hard, faggot.
Ben Shapiro is such a nigger cuck.
Fuck Benji and fuck Milo, both need to be put into the trash.
>>79230770
Hey Ben, my name is Anon, what's yours?
Benji constantly complains about being called a cuck. This isn't the first time he's done so. It makes me think that it bothers him because it hits too close to home. Regardless, he is in fact a cuck.
Literally who
>>79246391
those reddits and 4chans mother fuckers
>>79246391
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>>79246391
KEK
>>79230770
>pretending he doesn't know pol
Ben, why do you do this to us?
why is he wearing a jew hat
>>79230770
>slash pol
>>79234108
She didn't even get pushed. He lightly touched her upper arm, then she falsified bruises on her forearm. Shappy only backed her out of his blind, senseless, irrational hatred for Trump, and he used SJW arguments to do so, an act of rank hypocrisy
>>79230770
Not even going to watch. He was the first real indication to me that even the most innocent little Jew will always grow up to be a Jew.
>>79230770
Ben is so butthurt.
>>79230770
I feel like he's deliberately trying to provoke /pol/ with that jew hat.
Also, it's not like all /pol/ does is shout "cuck" at people. /pol/ also shouts "nigger" and "jew" a lot.
This dude clearly hasn't done his homework.
>>79230770
Alright I watched it despite not wanting to watch it, and I am impressed. The low tier trolls that run around calling people cucks after lurking on /pol/ for 5 minutes are a disgrace, and I'd side with this kike over them any day. Come on people, you should be out to convince, not necessarily provoke.
>g-guys let's just play into leftism paradigm
>>79230770
he just holohoaxed this entire board.
>>79231446
Disagree with this one. Zionism is a fucking cancer and lil ben is too retarded to understand that you can post on twitter anonymously if you aren't stupid.
Has ben started shaving yet?
>>79230770
His basic claim here is that "we" are provocateurs only for the sake of provocation, which is simply not true.
All the slurs being thrown around here have real meaning behind them and they are a provocation made to make people look into the problems the niggers, jews, fags, etc are on our societies.
So when he says that a generation of provocateurs is not useless only if they're standing for something worthwhile, I think /pol/ is far from useless seeing how it stands against the cancers of our society.
What he's talking about is closer to /b/.
>>79231446
Here his point is that he agrees that whites are under attack but somehow prefers to cure racism than for whites to defend themselves? And then says that Zionism, a foreign nationalist ideology is not a problem in America? Pretty silly.
Also, highlighting 'antisemites' will backfire, Benny. lmao what an idiot
>>79248214
Well he's a jew, what sort of fool would expect a jew to have loyalties toward a white american identity?
The size of this man's ego doesn't even come close to Ben's.
>>79248542
/pol/ a few months ago
Same will happen with Milo soon enough.
>>79230770
Meh.
>I think they smoke pot and masturbate in their mother's basement.
Well, facts don't care about your feelings, so where are those?
>I spent my whole career fighting political correctness.
Until you white knighted somebody who was gently grabbed, and equated it to spousal abuse, quitting your job to virtue signal against Trump.
>Just shouting cuck at people doesn't make the world a better place. It just means you're an asshole.
True, but it's equally entertaining, and accomplishes about as much as saying something else that gets you shut down by a principal. Don't act like you're better when the end result is the same (getting called an asshole).
>They mistake themselves as being principled by using the "n" word in chat rooms as if it's breaking some sort of societal taboo.
As opposed to calling poor children's parents stupid to the children's face, right? Yeah, that accomplished more.
>Well, it's not going to be so cool when it turns out your employer can search you.
But they can't. That's the beauty of anonymity.
>It's not going to be cool when it winds up on your facebook page.
I feel like you haven't researched anything that you are speaking out against, at this point.
>It's all fun and games until you have to live in a society where the left is willing to go after people.
We've been aware of their tactics for years, and have adapted accordingly. This is literally a moot point.
I could keep going at this point, but it is obvious that Ben Shapiro has completely dismissed a political movement that is beginning to become more relevant out of disdain for the fact that they follow Trump, and the fact that it holds Shapiro to the same standards he holds others to.
And he'll live well for another 20 years or so, until the Boomers die off. By that point, he'll be rich enough to where he likely won't need to be relevant.
>>79230770
How come every time OP says 'X is BTFO' it's not BTFO, and the opposite is actually true -- how did this weird tradition of fact-kabuki even begin?
>>79248738
Thats the influence of left wing thinking
>>79230770
This guy is the malt stereotypical Jew ever. His beady eyes, his mannerisms, and fuck me that voice. Ben, it's time to stop coming on here. No one likes you.
>>79231446
He said that that rand Paul wrote a book called problems with america A to Z and zionism was one of them. I googled it and couldnt find it. i then assumed he ment ron paul and so i googled it and couldnt find anything. then i tried ramsey paul. still couldnt find anything. and he talked about that for minutes and it wasnt true
nigger
>>79230770
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>>79230770
The manlet meme is killing his spirit. Hopefully he just gives up and stays out of public sight like most manlets.
>>79248738
Nah, I've learned my lesson with Shapiro. Milo is a useful tool in butt blasting feminists and the like, but he will likely just be a contrarian for the duration of his life. Sooner or later, he will turn on the movement that he considers himself a figure head of.
Doesn't make him any less useful in the moment.
>>79234030
Do you enjoy finger painting?
>>79249363
If it was the general sentiment that'd be great, but many people here express more faith in him, and furthermore, use him to legitimize homosexuality(even more) within /pol/. So I'd say that as a 'useful' tool, he's just not worth it.
>>79234030
>>79237081
Em you do know that in our religion we must marry only jewish people if we want to stay jewish ( unless you're a woman)
>>79230770
completely disregards what good it does.
the fun retarded culture we generate, exposes these people to legitimately well researched unpopular opinions.
We are why the youth might find the right. Look how far fucking lel and kek have spread into the internet.
Cuck is god damn everywhere.
>>79249363
>>79249661
how long has milo been at it?
i think he first latched onto the wider 4chan audience when he engaged in twitter shitflinging during gamergate in 2014. that skyrocketed his popularity, ever since that he basically just pandered to the 4chan crowd to grow his popularity and name recognition.
>>79249661
Personally, I don't care if he wants to take black cock. Makes the SJWs confused as fuck.
As for "legitimizing homosexuality," meh. The people using him to legitimize it would be like pedophiles using a pedophilic reporter to legitimize their fetish. It doesn't budge the people who aren't pedo an inch.
>>79230770
>denying there are 70 genders
>violating taboos by being le provocateur
checks out
>>79249921
He's been around as nobody for a while before gamergate, but he was more or less irrelevant up to that point.
I will give him credit where credit is due. He, like most of the news reporters, didn't hold any sort of an interest in video games, but he actually bothered to do some research instead of just going and asking one of the people attacked what it was about, and then just presuming that they were in the right.
Anyways, Milo is a useful butt blaster, but if he really wants to maintain his relevance, he needs to be the reporter that starts pointing out how Trump has changed the dialogue of politics in the upcoming election (and that Farage did it with Brexit). It's no longer left vs right. It's nationalist vs globalist.
>>79230770
If shouting cuck doesn't change the world then why is Trump the presidential nominee and Cruz is now irrelevant? Shapiro is just butthurt that he bet on the wrong horse and got completely destroyed by the community that helped elevate his career. Typical Jew.
>>79248760
Nice.
>>79249989
It's not about /pol/acks turning gay, it's about this place slowly transitions to agree that being a faggot is OK - just like will happen to pedophiles and the majority of the public, they won't turn pedo, but they'll tolerate the idea after a while.
Homosexuality is a danger to society and /pol/ is one of the only places discussing it, so it does worry me and I don't support him being associated with us, end of story. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
>>79230770
>I don't think the left should go after people for this sort of stuff (saying nigger on facebook)
Ben "We should go after them and ruin their careers" Shaprio.
>Takes money and runs like the kike he is
>Talks about "muh values"
fucking lol
>>79250544
Even without Milo, that sentiment has more or less been growing for a while.
And personally, I never much cared if someone was gay. I just ask gays to act like normal fucking people in public. I don't dry hump or fondle my wife in the street. Even making out in public is childish as fuck.
Great, you take a dick in your ass. And I like redheads. We can each have our own fetish without disgusting others and treating public spaces like they are private spaces.
>>79230770
"4chan started a political revolution online"
lol big call for a ukrainian crocheting forum
>>79234614
>pride is a bad thing
gay pride or white pride ?
>>79248760
He's already rich enough, back when he went on the Rubin Report (for the first time if he went back) he said he wouldn't go into details but he said he was earning >400k a year and his wife should've finished med school by now so she'll be earning at least 200k a year too.
He's by no means poor.
>>79230770
>lmao all four chane does is call people le c*cks!!!!!! xD
these pointless sweeping generalizations are no better than reddit going "4CHAN IS THE ASSHOLE OF THE INTERNET XDDDD"
he's desperately trying to discredit us so the tiny remainder of his fans don't jump ship like the alt-right did a few months ago
>>79251586
>rich enough
>Jewish
>>79251586
I'm pretty sure I said that he would continue to be rich for 20+ years, at which point he would have accumulated enough wealth that it wouldn't matter that his audience had died off and he became irrelevant.
>>79250960
>Even without Milo, that sentiment has more or less been growing for a while.
Well, it's growing faster with Milo. Can't see how it's relevant, it's like picking up smoking when you discover you have cancer instead of chemotherapy.
>I just ask gays to act like normal fucking people in public.
If it was possible we wouldn't be talking about it, no sane person actually cares about grown men shoving things into their rectum.
What we do care about, is them gaining and grabbing political power, while requesting more and more privileges(despite being a measly 1% of the population), shoving propaganda into the media(they are as nepotistic as the Jews if not more) and indoctrinating the minds of the (very) young in the academia and the public school system. They are drug addicts, disease ridden and ultra hedonistic, statistically, and no matter how you put it they are harmful as a group.
>>79251735
You said by that point. I said he's already rich enough.
>>79251657
We're referring to the point where he no longer needs to be relevant to live a comfortable life. Of course high achievers (which you'd need to be in order to make that kind of money) and jews aren't going to settle for "rich enough".
>>79237546
>>79237715
He's so fucking salty. Is Ben gay? Cos he is just getting baited so hard by Milo
>>79251755
I appreciate some of your sentiments, but I'm not concerned, and, as a Jew, I'm surprised you are.
There are a LOT of issues I have with Jews, but the investment that they put into their own children has never been one of them. If the public school is failing, you'll put them in private school. If private is failing, too, you aren't above homeschooling your kids, while investing in extracurricular in order to ensure that they are socialized with their peers.
The public school system has been failing long before the implementation of gay sex being taught. I have no interest in my children being taught there. As for the ones who do, that's their loss and their children's loss.
>>79251755
Based kike.
You know what the worst part is? The fact that a kike agrees with me is making me question myself more than ever.
Are my opinions part of your reverse psychology?
WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING!?
WHERE ARE THE CAMERAS!?
STOP WATCHING ME!
>>79251947
I wouldn't consider the money he has made to be enough to retire on at the moment. He's got kids, who he will want to send to private schools, for example. But 20 years from now, he will surely be able to retire without worry.
>>79230770
>>79231446
I'm not going to watch the jew video. But if he's shitting on people who yell 'KEK!' at everything they don't like, then I agree with him. It got old really fucking fast.
>>79252127
Lets be honest, the Jews are part of the reason public school are secular and shitty. The Jews use them to corrupt the population while keeping their children in relative safety in private schools.
>>79252153
There are millions of jews in the world, one of them's sure to agree with you on something.
>>79230770
>slash pol
>>79251609
Hes talking about reddit and that donald sub reddit more so than here.
>>79231446
>nefarious forces
>>79252313
GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THEM!
STOP FILLING ME WITH YOUR LIES!
r-r-re-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>79252287
I am aware. It's one of the things I don't like about Jews. That said, they obviously care greatly for their own children. If only the majority of white parents cared even half as much, public schools would be an acceptable place to teach children.
>>79231446
if I could tell Ben that all these people who are on the alt right are useless yet never mentions anyone other than twitter posters hes a fucking moron. Ben is a huge piece of shit that is biting the hand that feeds him and thats a HUGE fucking reason he left his original position. I'm pretty fucking sure hes losing his entire following while doing this trying to grasp onto the neocon curtails. Fuck him lying sack of shit.
>>79252127
So, what you are saying is that the fact that some have the common sense to not put their kids into the public school system nullifies the fact that the main educational system of your nation is extremely harmful to children?
You will not put your kids there, and I will not, and still the absolute majority of kids will be corrupted beyond repair, generations upon generations lost.
Anyway the point is not public schooling, I have a problem with the fact that sexual, racial and cultural minorities dictate for the rest of the nation what their taboos and values should be. It's fundamentally wrong and faggots do it since they got their first bit of recognition.
>>79252153
Israelis are really different from diaspora, I can't stress this enough. Don't lump me in with 'the Jews', I'm an Israeli before I am Jewish(which I am not, religiously, like a 46% of this country who define themselves secular).
>>79252806
>So, what you are saying is that the fact that some have the common sense to not put their kids into the public school system nullifies the fact that the main educational system of your nation is extremely harmful to children?
What I'm saying is that Milo is not contributing to that, and that even if gay sex was still being hated on and not taught, public schools would still be shit because the public just doesn't give a shit about their offspring. And so long as parents care more about themselves than they care about their children, the children will be corrupted beyond repair.
To worry about gay sex before you worry about selfish assholes putting their happiness before their children's welfare is to put the cart before the horse.
>>79252564
White people used to care about their kids tho...
It is true that kikes do put more emphasis on children, I will admit.
>>79252806
>Israelis are really different from diaspora
I believe you but I am too paranoid to accept it.
>>79253323
Yeah, they did. And until they start to care again, gay sex being taught in schools is the least of white people's problems.
>>79253256
I just demonstrated the reasons I think homosexuality is harmful to society, that's all, and I didn't even say much about public schools - my main problem is the grabbing of political power personally.
Milo as an individual is ok, I don't care for him, as I said I'm concerned with the implications of his acceptance here rather than with him as a person, those implications being the normalization of homosexuality on the only place that goes against all of those things.
I do agree with you of course that the whole thing is a symptom of deeper societal illnesses, but I don't think it's "the least of white people's problems". It is a process of degeneration that needs to be stopped, and then slowly reversed - that means that while you do need to look for the cause, you have to treat the symptoms or get sicker.
>tfw /pol/ is tsundere for a jew
Admit it. You wish you were as conservative as Shappy.
>>79253523
Gay sex being taught in schools makes people accepting of other illnesses and diseases. Also if a parent is encouraged to let their fag children just be fags then where does it stop? Where can the parent step in?
There are other very similar problems effecting parents. Like when a kid gets a fucking twelve foot ear spreader, the parent is told to just let him do it. When the child dies his hair black, the parent is told it's just a has. When the kid gets some edgy tattoo which essentially scars him for life, the parent is told to be understanding. When the child wants to cut his fucking dick off, he is told not to be a bigot.
The list goes on. My parents were just like this when I was a child. Only in my late teens did I teach myself work ethic and how to be a pleasant person. They were "Accepting" of my flaws because they were weak cunts that were told by the world that they should just let me be, and consequently I had a fucking awful childhood.
This homosexuality thing, while slightly less important, should be downplayed.
>>79253783
We know the cause. People don't care about their kids, because it doesn't matter to them. They care about themselves because their parents cared about themselves, and they know that even if their kids turn into fuck ups, they will still be taken care of when they are old due to government programs.
You want parents to give a shit whether their children are successful, then make to to where if their children aren't successful, the parents will literally work until they can't, at which point they will need to commit suicide. Want them to stop being selfish, regardless of their children's success? Make it to where the children will be your only hope of any sort of retirement when you get older, so that if you are a selfish asshole to them, they will act the same towards you later in life, particularly when you need them, but they no longer need you.
>>79253888
>implying I care about conservatism
What has conservatism ever done? It bent over backwards for every single fucking issue to get rammed in the ass by the left. It hasn't conserved anything.
>>79254070
You aren't attacking conservatism's flaws in that post, you are attacking the flaws of conservationists. Conservatism as an ideology isn't equipped to bend over for the left. If it has done that, then it is a consequence of people forsaking conservatism.
>>79230770
Who?
>>79251531
I meant pride in culture and heritage, although love is a better word than pride.
I'm not too sure about racial pride aside from the fact that everybody seems to be doing it except whites which gets on my fucking nerve. No pride is fine only in so far as nobody else does it otherwise it's just a prisoner's dilemma situation.
This guy is a joke.
Stereotypical long nose, sweaty, smelly, ugly, etc.
>>79254048
See, I don't think you can base a society solely on pragmatism rather than an ideology. What will happen if you stop welfare and so on is that while there will be an improvement, people will simply stop having children.
I think that people are hedonistic, and all that they do they do for pleasure, and indeed the carelessness for their own children stems out of their hedonistic impulses being above any other virtue, the fact that people don't care about their children(or no one but themselves for that matter) is just another symptom.
The true cause of ultra hedonism that is nihilism, which is in turn caused by relativism and a lack of ideology, religion or any set of written-in-stone values within the state and the society.
>>79254253
Here's the flaw of conservatism: It does nothing.
>You have 3 apples, you're conserving these apples, you want to keep them as they were found because the creator knows best
>Some jew places worms in one
>You have 2 apples and one wormy apple, you're conserving these apples
>Some nigger takes a bite out of one
>You have one apple, one wormy, one half eaten, you still want to conserve them
>Someone on your own side is paid to shove one up his ass
>You have one wormy apple, one half eaten apple and one shitty apple, but don't worry, you're going to conserve them all
As your values get ruined one by one you just sit back and "conserve".
I suppose a leaky boat analogy would be better, holes being poked in your boat until you can't scoop the water out fast enough and it sinks because you didn't plug the holes or stop the faggots poking holes in your boat.
>>79238736
Agreed, I like Ben but he needs to relax a little and get a sense of humor
>>79254782
>See, I don't think you can base a society solely on pragmatism rather than an ideology. What will happen if you stop welfare and so on is that while there will be an improvement, people will simply stop having children.
Well, intelligent whites are already doing that. And, looking at Germany, who has even more benefits, their birthrate is competing for the lowest in the world (at least until Muslims started showing up). So, pragmatically, it is to your benefit to have children. It's a retirement plan. And the more you have, the greater your odds of being taken care of.
And if you take out benefits, parents will discourage the gay lifestyle, as they know that without children, the gays will die alone without anyone to take care of them.
So I disagree with your assertion. It isn't logically sound.
>>79254782
Basically, you need god or state. Contemporary Westerners believe in neither.
>>79255233
Same, it's real shame watching Ben get trolled to death. It's quite surprising cause he's clearly an intelligent man. Dude's young, you'd think he'd know how to survive on the internet.
>>79254950
A conservative would replace the shitty apples with new apples of the same size and taste.
Unlike apples, the Jewish infiltration and the nigger menace can be cleaned from the places they infect.
Repair the bitten apple and stop niggers from biting it again. Get the worm out of the Jew one and keep an eye on kikes. Wipe the shit off of the anal apple and get rid of the sellout.
Of course, conservatism isn't equipped to do these things, and it certainly isn't equipped to keep them from happening again, so at this point I agree with you.
>>79238991
>who only chases after his own glorification is intellectually dishonest at best.
He is Miley Cyrus. What principles does he stick to?
>There is a reason almost no one here talks about Ben anymore
Because the Internet doesn't have an attention span, especially this place.
>Milo connects more with young people
~~memes~~
>Milo managed to forge alliances between right-wing and libertarian-minded conservatives and the gays
He is faking his homosexuality. It's all a popularity stunt.
>>79230770
>pretty much true
So it's still false.
>>79255431
>principles
Nice meme.
MUDDA'S BASEMENT!!!!!!
>>79255269
I just don't think that the welfare state is the absolute cause of the social apathy I described and I don't think the abolition of the welfare state will fix our society.
I support the abolition of the welfare state fullhearthetly, but we have an obvious problem with nihilism in our society, and it is what causing apathy and degeneration.
We need to either fight the cause of nihilism(relativism) or to find an ideology compelling enough for people to devote their life to(could be a constitution, a religion, a political ideology) although it also means the abolition of relativism. Smaller govt will simply not be enough.
>>79230770
KEK
not long before he's raising his wifes son
>>79255701
This dude is speaking some sense.
>>79255701
Good luck with all that. People aren't going to do that so long as there isn't a need to. Even then, many people won't join (which means they will simply die out eventually, but it will still be a slow process to get back to the norm).
Reminder that Ben "Shekels" Shapiro unironically called Trump a misogynistic, sexist bigot.
He's no different from the SJWs.
>>79255926
He's the Platonic 'conservative'.
He's a good springboard for young people proximal to our political movement getting into Fascism and rejecting conservative.
>>79230770
>>79231446
What if I call him a kike with a fake degree? Am I doing better at changing the world?
>>79255431
>Because the Internet doesn't have an attention span, especially this place.
I remember him quite well, I remember him turning into a massive hypocrite and acting like a SJW.
I do still kinda like him and I think he's right on a lot of issues but once your reputation's ruined you're fucked.
>>79234030
are you a girl?
>>79230770
He is 100% correct, calling people cucks like a child doesn't do anything to promote the cause. Ben is a based Kike.
>>79255885
There is already need. You cannot be a shell of a human for the entirety of your life, and at some point this generation of ghosts will rebel against nihilism.
But I guess we'll wait and see.
>>79230770
Cuck!
>>79256258
The people protesting against 'cuck' just want to divest their opposition of effective language.
It's the same reason the right protests 'racism' and other, similar words. They hold power, and it's a common political and social strategy to try to convince your opposition to behave ineffaciously.
>>79255701
For once, I believe this jew.
Go to California. Everyone's now worshiping Satan, being some degenerate hedonist, and just doesn't care. And then you have Antifa, and nihilism being an actual trend.
But here's the thing. We don't need free handouts, but we do need proper rewards for our labor. Nobody wants to work anymore. Nobody wants to put in effort, and people feel entitled, and to be honest, I don't blame them. However, instead of welfare, give people their labor's worth of payment. Everyone's getting fucked over in some aspect, because their employer took advantage of them.
Here's one thing I learned from my current job. Hard work doesn't get you ahead, only taken advantage of. We need to properly reward those who bust their balls.
>>79256290
Keep in mind how materialistic and empty the average person is, and realize half the population is more materialistic and empty than them.
>>79256258
No, he is a manipulative kike. Most of the time he makes sense, but there is an agenda there fore sure.
>>79256460
>We need to properly reward those who bust their balls.
Sure, but giving someone ridiculous levels of wealth relative to the rest of society is not a 'proper' reward.
The 1% DOES need to be divested of their vast fortunes. It's fucking disgusting. It's the one thing the Bern victims got right.
t. fascist
>>79256604
cunt
>>79230770
>>79231446
wtf i hate /pol/ now
>>79256083
No, that's Milo. He's more of a useless gatekeeper a la Glenn Beck.
>>79256697
Milo isn't an anything. He's just some degenerate faggot who popularizes the alt right.
He's the Neil Degrasse Tyson of our movement.
>>79256590
>>79256687
he's not wrong
>>79256590
Here's the thing. If I became insanely wealthy on my own efforts, be it physical labor or just being really smart at the right time, I'm entitled to keeping my said insane wealth. Wealthy people who are essentially like a government entity who control how you live, such as the healthcare industry, do not deserve most of their wealth, and should be distributed. Essentially, if you're wealthy and try playing god in the stock market.
This is also coming from someone who's NatSoc.
>>79256771
Milo is a springboard from conservatism/libertarianism to fascism. Shapiro is a useless as Glenn Beck, talking about 'true conservatism', 'values', etc. which is all garbage.
>>79256520
That is the meaning of rebelling. Specifically because we were moving towards extreme materialism for such a long time, I can see how an anti materialistic movement might rise from this generation - what do they have to rebel against but relativism, nihilism, hedonism, secularism and materialism?
It's not unthinkable.
>>79256892
You're 'entitled' to fucknothing. The only entitlements an individual deserves and should receive are what benefits his society.
Massive wealth in the hands of the few does not benefit society, and we have the means of simply taking it.
>>79237546
>>79237715
Oh god I read these in his voice now
>>79230770
He's right, you know.
>>79256915
The problem is that people are becoming materialistic because a lot of these luxuries are now essential. Take smart phones as an example. They're pretty much required at this point for even the simplest of jobs. Shit, even simple things like saving money on your groceries. Use some sort of ____ Mart application. Cheap phones cannot do that.
>>79230770
oh yeah?
well, my mom doesn't have a basement
checkmate benlet
>>79256083
>>79256771
I.E, you don't convert someone from conservatism to fascism by tripling down on 'true conservatism', you get someone who is more pragmatic and sympathetic to pro-european civilization explicitly (not pro-enlightenment ideals which are different), savage and milo represent the pro-european angle, and are the springboard. Beck and Shapiro are in the same category of worthless enlightenment liberal values, they fundamentally don't care whether western civilization lives or dies as long as they get their 'libertarianism', even if those libertarians are brown/black and speak other languages and have other cultural values.
>>79256986
So, if I started, let's say a sandwich company, and I made some damn good sandwiches, and the business took off and made millions, I have to share that? Fuck that shit. I didn't exploit anybody being an honest entrepreneur.
>They're just smoking pot masturbating in their moms' basements
He sounds really butthurt. What did you do to him /pol/?
>>79256590
I think that what we need is to cripple the means that allowed these people to be where they are (aka central banking, making profit off calimities, globalism, etc).
If someone gets filthy rich without the detriment of others and actually generates jobs then wonderful, have at it.
>>79257203
Your mentality is what we call poison, and it is symptomatic of the failed society in which we live.
If you are not happy with contributing to a great society, and want to live only to benefit yourself, we have the means of simply removing you from our society - or - possibly - removing you from Earth, via the express train to heaven that is an oven.
>>79256915
Anti-materialism is already growing - it's called minimalism. I'm one who partakes in it. Furthermore, when I do purchase something, I make sure it's quality. Real wood furniture, for example. I haven't had cable TV since moving out from my parents, and have gotten my entertainment either through pirating, or by bumming people's passwords for streaming services, but my TV is a Sony 45" 120htz 1080p LED, which was on sale for about $800. I've also minimized my book collection to truly loved books, getting the rest as pirated epubs for my Nook Simple Touch.
But in the end, I don't see it catching on. Too much "SWAG" heads out there.
Ben is a liar, I don't care what he has to say since he's never owned up to admitting that Fields wasn't brutally assaulted like they both claimed she was. Anything he says from here on out might as well be random noise.
Shitposters are driving Ben crazy
This wouldn't have happened to him if he didn't go full SJW over Trump and expose himself as an America-hating jew
>>79257080
I actually disagree with this. Most jobs don't require smart phones. I've never owned one, and haven't had a single issue getting/staying employed, and my bill is literally 15 bucks per month. Minimalism is easily achieved, at least to a great extent, but it is by no means sought after.
>>79257272
>If someone gets filthy rich without the detriment of others and actually generates jobs then wonderful, have at it.
Again, no.
Our society should not exist to maximize individual fortunes. It should exist to maximize the glory of the nation, which reflects on the individual in more profound ways than mere wealth.
A healthy nation is about the individual subverting himself.
A person doesn't need millions of dollars to be happy in this nation. He can still make plenty of money to live comfortably - but not billions of dollars.
>>79257080
>The problem is that people are becoming materialistic because a lot of these luxuries are now essential.
lmao that the point where I reccomend you Industrial Society And Its Future. Ted is always right.
But yeah, your right, materialism is essential for out current society to some degree, but I think that an anti materialistic rebellion will also mean abolishment of those needs. If many people were to refuse using phones they would quickly become less essential.
Also, even if an object is essential it does not mean that you worship it, you can sue a phone for work and still be indifferent towards it for the rest of the day.
Any excuse to post this webm I'm gonna take it
>>79257437
>Our society should not exist to maximize individual fortunes
opinion
>>79257282
No, that mentality is what I call wholesome. It led to the industrial revolution, which made life much easier and cheaper for all, with jobs outside of farming easy to find. It also encourages innovation, with the reward of great wealth.
Your mentality is poison. It calls for centralized planning to ensure that nobody exploits your "great society." And centralized planning REQUIRES that whomever is in charge of planning be uncorruptible.
>>79257297
I live a similar lifestyle too, although I try to consume as little media as possible.
Wait until this disaster of a generation will grow up and realize what excruciatingly boring, pointless hell we have built for them. They'll go insane and I predict they have a pretty good chance of burning the whole thing down out of spite.
>>79257592
I said I was a fascist you illiterate fuck.
>>79257607
Classical liberalism has already been debunked. It's an ideology of social and political fractionation. It creates propositional states where people feel constantly alienated and mass immigration is the rule.
It's a failed, poisonous ideology, and it's luckily on the way out as more and more people reject it.
>>79257637
Oh, I don't consume much media. I do enjoy Stefan's "The Truth About" series, in relation to historical figures, like Abe Lincoln and Gandhi. I also enjoy the random fiction story, like The Old Man and the Sea.
Most of my entertainment comes from me doing things with my hands, whether it be wood working, teaching myself to weld, or playing piano.
>>79234058
It should say
>I am against political correctness
>Untill it's against Israel/Jews
Don't be deceived by Ben, he's your typical Jew that would have you arrested for "hate speech" against God's chosen.
>>79230770
>pol gets rid of PC
>lol they're losers who smoke weed and masturbate
>but I fight against PC
good try kike
>>79257711
>Classical liberalism has already been debunked
Well, you said it on the internet, so it must be true!
>It's an ideology of social and political fractionation.
Citation needed
>It creates propositional states where people feel constantly alienated and mass immigration is the rule.
Citation needed.
>>79246902
This, what a fucking liar. I guess it was supposed to be a diss but it just made him look weak.
>>79257968
Please go back to basic bitch land. You're too new to this journey for me to waste my time.
>>79230770
>le mother's basement meme
And with that, he's lost my attention.
>>79257881
That sounds wonderful. I really don't consider youtube videos to be on the same plane of evil as mass media, it is made for indoctrination and escapism.
>>79258055
>Accept what I'm saying with blind faith, or I won't waste my time.
Allow me to respond in kind:
Why don't you crack open a history book?
>>79258184
You don't have to accept what I'm saying. The doctrine of fascism means that, at some point in the indeterminate future, words will become less useful than a baton to the face.
In any case, there's no onus on me to unpack your completely poisonous wordview. I held it a few years back, too. Read Rothbard, watched Molyjew (he's gotten more fascist, which is good), read Von Mises, Hayek etc.
Turns out they were all wrong, though my time wasn't wasted. Bringing you up to speed will be easier once you're marginalized.
>>79257968
>>79258055
Classical liberalism, the Founders' dream, was an aristocratic democratic-republican government, with strong national and capitalist undertones. I think everyone agrees that's fine. That society died with the Civil War and the 14th Amendment. Classical liberalism became an anarcho-democracy with Negroes eventually forcing the country to approve of indiscriminate immigration, spiraling the country into ruin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BofoAkwWA1c
Ben Shapiro On Trump's Great Response To The Orlando Attack
>>79257377
Actually I'm pretty sure he still supports her.
>>79258372
> I think everyone agrees that's fine
I do not.
Individualistic, enlightenment nations are at the root of the West's fall. The founding fathers were literal ground zero for contemporary decay. I don't look at that as arbitrary or harmless just because I'm reactionary. I'm reacting a bit further back than you are, is all.
>>79257437
>A person doesn't need millions of dollars to be happy in this nation
You don't need a computer.
You don't need clothes.
Why haven't you given them away, you filthy commie? Start with yourself then preach to others.
>>79258126
Youtube has the ability to become that, as google pretty much sets you up in an information ghetto based on your preferences. They actively try to hide videos that have opinions that differ from your own, which I find extremely disturbing, giving everyone a sense of mass consent/agreement that may not actually be there. Still, I enjoy finding out about the intricacies of history.
>>79258323
>The doctrine of fascism means that, at some point in the indeterminate future, words will become less useful than a baton to the face.
And the bullets chambered in the pistol that sits in my pocket means that if you attempt to abandon words in favor of the baton, you will not succeed.
>In any case, there's no onus on me to unpack your completely poisonous wordview. I held it a few years back, too. Read Rothbard, watched Molyjew (he's gotten more fascist, which is good), read Von Mises, Hayek etc.
Fine. And you, in return, can crack open history books to see what centralized power inevitably results in.
>Bringing you up to speed will be easier once you're marginalized.
Keep telling yourself that.
>>79258583
>bizarre slippery slope fallacy
>calls a fascist a commie
Contemporary political discourse, everybody.
The discourse in which that even makes sense is social capitalistic democracy, which was the literal tool of the Jew in WW2 and continues doing their bidding.
>>79258509
I don't see why enlightenment or individualism is a bad thing, so long as power is restricted to the superior upper class of the nation.
>>79258509
there are design blind spots which grow large after 2 centuries and crush empires
>>79258680
> so long as power is restricted to the superior upper class of the nation.
Because that is literally what pre-enlightenment society was like. It is an inherent contradiction.
>>79258680
Your aristocratic vision is completely contrary to the doctrine of fascism, which is a rejection of aristocracy (basically the supremacy of the individual) by subverting all of those impulses into the state. Thus, the individual is a conduit for the nation's glory, and experiences it as such.
Your critique feels a bit Evolean - which is basically a synonym for incorrect. Natural aristocracy isn't a superior blueprint for society, it's just a self-serving ideology. The merit of the individual is irrelevant to the founding doctrine of the state. Those states that exist to enrich the few on the backs of the many should realize that it is rational for the many to hold to the view that they can simply kill you and take all of your stuff if they band together, which they should.
>>79230770
>live in moms basement smoking pot and masturbating
I live alone but otherwise me to a t.
>>79258782
That's why I stressed the Founding Fathers wanted an aristocratic democracy, though their language in the Constitution IS contradictory, "all men are born equal."
>>79258928
Well I'm still of the belief that an aristocracy with some mobility (people above a certain income can vote) is a necessary enough barrier to Marxism, but seeing the future of this country I can definitely understand the appeal of fascism.
>>79258711
A nation that can't hold its shit together for two measly centuries is a complete dumpsterfire in terms of governance and world history.
>>79259130
That wasn't 'democracy', that was roman republicanism, and that died with the civil war.
If the founders hadn't gone off with their ideas about 'all white men being created equal', then no one would've ever had any pretensions of blacks being equal to whites, even even amongst whites there was inequality.
>>79259143
no, I said the roof starts to leak after 200 years. It was OK for 200 years.
>>79259130
I don't reject the concept of aristocracy, I reject its implementation.
Basically, the notion that the meritorious few are inherently deserving of supremacy over the fawning underclass.
In my vision, obviously, the natural aristocracy still exists and might even be a managerial class, but their material and social supremacy over the underclass has been eradicated, and their place in society is that of the patriarch whose only reward is the health and vibrancy of his family.
Again, giving that aristocracy special economic and social privileges - or allowing them the option of exploiting society (which includes the ability to one-sidedly accrue wealth) is the problem.
Think moderators and janitors. They do it for free. If you want to be an aristocracy, you'd better get used to the same.
>>79230770
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Fite me 1v1 Benjamin
>>79230770
(((Shapiro))) is still an idiot and buttmad about getting called out I see.
>shrimpy Jew sides with female journalist because "m'lady" and a vendetta against Trump (likely because Shapiro is very much in favor of American interventionis)
>turns out she's lying; through her fucking teeth
>Breitbart backs off and seems rightly embarrassed
>Shapiro resigns and commits career suicide from ass pain over his employers not believing a creature as precious and delicate as a female in the face of plain evidence.
>but yeah, anything the sniveling malcontent says will blow US the fuck out
>>79258673
>le slippery slope fallacy meme
You're the one talking about people not "needing" things, yet you go on with things you don't need. You don't practice what you preach.
>The discourse in which that even makes sense is social capitalistic democracy, which was the literal tool of the Jew in WW2 and continues doing their bidding.
So your answer is to go full communist and destroy all technological progress because you tagged the term with "muh jew"?
News flash: no one's going to bother with making a company to provide a product or service help people if they get nothing in return, humans don't work like that.
Besides, unless they're illegally obtaining the money (stealing, fraud, extortion, etc) it's a fair trade.
>person A has a product
>person B has money and wants product
>B wants to buy product from A
>you throw a hissy fit because "HE ISN'T ALLOWED THAT MONEY! HE'S MADE ENOUGH! NEEDS TO WORK FOR FREE!"
>A refuses to work for free because there is literally no reason to
>B doesn't get his product and maybe dies in a gutter somewhere
>>79259622
>jew denier
>le News flash: no one's going to bother with making a company to provide a product or service help people if they get nothing in return, humans don't work like that meme
Nope. This is Fox News/Breitbart comments section level discourse. I don't come here for that.
>>79230770
the moment he learns the power of humor and through it hed understand people are just taking piss out of him, he will be happier. then he could observe everything and determinate when someone is serious and when someone is there just to fuck with someone else
![tumblr_nn2fbeQPg11titub2o1_400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LIG1nOq.jpg "tumblr_nn2fbeQPg11titub2o1_400[1].jpg")
>>79230770
>slash pol
Was there literally a faggot asking about "slash pol"? wow.
>>79259731
>gets BTFO
>N-Not going to reply!!!
Hey, mow my lawn while you're doing shit for free. You want to better the country right, comrade?
>>79260077
>conflates country and nation
lmaoa
>>79237715
Race to the bottom retard olympics of bitchiness. Another proof that the alt right is cancer.
>>79230770
Stop giving these people attention.
>>79230770
>it's not going to be so cool when your employer finds out you said nigger on a chat room
Why are Americans this cuckolded hahahaha can you actually lose job opportunities because you said racist things online?
