will retract from the demand for uncontrolled migration to the UK, if they all unanimously decided on it.
Brits can either accept immigration without any limits from the EU, or be out of the single market.
This was the whole plan all along, by the way. Merkel wants a new Europe without the UK intervening, that only works if the UK is outside of the single market entirely.
Good guys lost ww2
Hopefully this is a good thing for Britain, because it makes coming out of the single market (which is what we should be doing no matter) far more likely.
>>79190793
Seems like she wants a new europe...Without indigenous europeans.
Of course they will say that.
It's a bargaining chip.
These worthless EU politicians are playing games with the lives of the people they supposedly represent (if they were ever elected for their positions). Merkel can't play this game and maintain what little reputation she has for very long - the UK is a major economic and cultural force in Europe and cannot be ignored. Surely Merkel would want the British exit to have as minimal a negative impact on other EU nations as possible to prevent her crumbling empire from unraveling completely?
The UK even has the commonwealth for backup trade and is probably one of the most likely European countries to remain economically secure from an EU exit, especially compared to Germany with the vast majority of its trade being within Europe.
They would throw away their exports to britain for free fucking movement?
Top kek, its called a passport
>>79191142
>Hopefully this is a good thing for Britain, because it makes coming out of the single market (which is what we should be doing no matter) far more likely.
It all depends on whether your politicians can accept uncontrolled migration or not. If they do not accept it, then you are OUT OUT OUT as Juncker has said.
>>79190793
So a trade war it is then.
Say goodbye to your largest single market for exports.
>>79191358
>Of course they will say that.
>It's a bargaining chip.
That is not how the EU functions. Have you not followed the Greek crisis? Germany doesn't bargain, it says what it wants and never yields, never. Not even kidding. This is the German way.
>implying Britain won't be better off with India, USA and Oz for trades
>>79191782
>They would throw away their exports to britain for free fucking movement?
There is nothign the UK can do to limit German goods exports to the UK under WTO rules. Nothing. That is not the issue.
>>79191820
You do realise this will only speed the demise if the EU if we tell them to whistle for their free movement of labour?
The majority of the EU economies are in stagnant growth and in massive debt. Do you really think they can survive a cut of some $250 billion a year to their collective economies?
>>79191821
>Say goodbye to your largest single market for exports.
Dude, the USA has not exited the EU.
>>79192002
Apart from imposing tariffs on them....
>>79192060
https://fullfact.org/europe/where-does-eu-export/
kek
>>79190793
>free movement in the constitution
>everyone has to accept
>its caused nothing but problems from the start
>they dont amend it and wont even consider looking into it
>even when states threaten to leave once anti EU parties gain popularity
EU will collapse unless it addresses key issues like this.
Free movement should be agreed per country
It is not a divine right
>>79192002
Then how are they supposed to keep britain away from their precious market?
>>79191895
Against weak nations on the brink collapse perhaps.
Not the UK.
>>79190793
Merkel is determined to turn Europe brown at any cost
UK:s biggest trade deficits
1.Germany: -US$46.1 billion
2.China: -$33.9 billion
3.Netherlands: -$20.3 billion
4.Norway: -$14.1 billion
5.Belgium: -$13.5 billion
6.Italy: -$11.2 billion
7.France: -$9.1 billion
8.Spain: -$8.2 billion
9.Canada: -$7.2 billion
10.Poland: -$6.9 billion
It's apparent then, that key EU members would lose even more money if they restricted trade with the UK. The EU is causing self-inflicted damage on itself, just like with the charade last year with Russia. -.-
>>79192031
>You do realise this will only speed the demise if the EU if we tell them to whistle for their free movement of labour?
Germany's plan is to only keep those countries in who want to be controlled by Germany's principles of a unified single market. If Sweden, Greece, Denmark, the Netherlands, Ireland etc. leave, fine. It will make Germany's position in the remaining EU stronger and stronger.
>The majority of the EU economies are in stagnant growth and in massive debt.
On average less than the UK... just so you know.
>Do you really think they can survive a cut of some $250 billion a year to their collective economies?
250 billion? Are you saying the UK would get out of the WTO, would shut it completely off from the outside world and that's it?
We are ONLY talking about services, goods trading cannot be impacted by the exit. And services from the EU to the UK is 50 billion or so, while the UK has much more to sell in services.
>>79192060
>german shitposting about the EU again
how about fuck off Hans?
>>79192098
>Apart from imposing tariffs on them....
But you cannot, unless you leave the WTO. And you will not leave the WTO.
>>79192323
That's all it is really but hopefully we don't agree to it
>>79192335
>The EU is causing self-inflicted damage
that's what the EU always dose
How do we help the EU to collapse entirely?
>>79190793
Once UK leaves, EU looks more Germany and its Outer Vassal States
>>79192098
We tried this trick once...
Illegally board their cargo vessels and pitch the shit into the sea.
>>79192152
>https://fullfact.org/europe/where-does-eu-export/
What is Germany?
>>79191358
>the last of the Norwegians/Sweden/Germans/Frenchmen/Britons/europeans
>it becomes a box office hit
>jews make billions telling a revised version of an event they caused
calling it right now
>>79190793
I thought immigrants was a good thing? It's almost like all of the big heads in the eu are treating immigrants like trash that they don't want to touch.
>>79192349
You are also assuming that people will buy German cars etc after you've thrown your toys out the pram.
>>79192417
>Can't impose tariffs
Errrr, yes we can sunshine.....
>>79192467
R A R E
>>79192158
>Free movement should be agreed per country
It cannot. You would need 30+ constitutional changes around the EU with various referendums to change it. And a single country could block the change. Poland, as an example, would never ever accept a change in freedom of movement. That already is it, even if every other state (and in some state's provinces) agree on limiting freedom of movement, the single Polish veto would still end the whole change.
>>79192540
You're not the only country in the euro...
>>79192417
we could do a tariff free deal with japan
pretty sure at least half the potential buyers of german cars will be brexiteers, will they continue to want to buy if germany fucks us over?
will having a german car be seen as being a traitor? will it be dangerous to own one? to park one without getting keyed?
play nice germany, or you'll piss off your buyers, and they'll stop being buyers
>>79192335
The leaders of the EU states are quite open to negotiation
The EU commission is out for blood thanks to our Nige waving his cock around the parliment
>>79192210
>Then how are they supposed to keep britain away from their precious market?
On goods trading the EU cannot do anything. But the single market is much more than goods trading, as you know there are 4 freedoms - freedom of goods, people, capital and services/establishment. Only goods trading is internationally governed by the WTO rules. The other 3 are governed by the single market rules.
>>79192417
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=russia+trade+war+with+ukraine
>>79192689
there shouldn't be free movement
>>79190793
shut the borders and begin mass deportations to Berlin
Merkel will take anyone!
>>79191820
>whether your politicians can accept uncontrolled migration or not
you seem to have mis-spelt "people"
>>79191142
If you won't take their shit you can't have any of their turds. Hehe
>>79192235
>Against weak nations on the brink collapse perhaps.
What is the Soviet Union, what is America, what is the British Empire, what is the French Empire, etc. Germany is stubborn, it never yields on fundamental principles, unless you completely and utterly destroy Germany so that all cities are flattened and people are starving and the Führer is dead.
>>79192854
I fucking challenge you, chav scum. Not every immigrant is a peaceful cuck, I'll fucking rip your head off.
>>79191673
> brexit
> europe goes to shit, EU army is born
> it was dem nasty brexiters wot ruined it all, get em
> Britain's new bros slap Germany's shit
> Everyone is happy
>>79192931
Im sorry what? You havent beaten America ever in its history and withiut America and NATO you would have had been no match for the Soviets
>>79193128
>I fucking challenge you
challenge me to what?
a jew-contest? you've already won!
>>79192600
>It's almost like all of the big heads in the eu are treating immigrants like trash that they don't want to touch.
That is the current notion in all of Europe except Germany. Everyone says immigrants are utter locust which is the worst thing ever.
Germany received 2 million immigrants last year for a net migration figure of 1.2 million - that is like if the US got 8 million immigrants in one year or 5 million net migration... a bit much and still Germans are pro-immigrant (but against Islam).
>>79192931
you've already allowed leftists and muslims to do that for anyone who has the will to finish the job. There are no principles in Germany anymore.
>>79192629
>You are also assuming that people will buy German cars etc after you've thrown your toys out the pram.
Greeks buy German cars, German machinery, German high tech products, even German military stuff.
>>79192349
>countries in who want to be controlled by Germany's principles of a unified single market
still pretending it's a common market hans?
I wonder how toxic it will become to own a german car?
wasn't there a report of an entire road where all german cars were keyed? I DO hope that doesn't happen allover the country
>>79192641
>Errrr, yes we can sunshine.....
Will you exit the WTO as well?
>>79192931
>unless you completely and utterly destroy Germany so that all cities are flattened and people are starving and the Führer is dead.
I'm ok with this
>>79193388
The Greeks are not British.
>>79193128
plenty of lamp posts m8
>>79193388
are you confused? we are talking aboutthe UK, not grece
Great British Voters want gollywogs out ,sand niggers out ,mudslimes , an Europoors .. we TELL EU WHAT WE WANT BITCH HAHAHA
>>79191005
fpbp
>>79192798
>pretty sure at least half the potential buyers of german cars will be brexiteers,
Actually, German cars are generally premium brands, bought principally by higher income people with higher education. By a big margin, they voted for Bremain.
>>79193388
With what money
>>79193543
>neglecting to mention the King Semites themselves
>>79192931
It sounds like you want us to kill Merkle? Is that right Muhammad?
>>79193619
Brill Motors hans Well Done like your Tiger tanks oh ..
>>79192833
>there shouldn't be free movement
But you cannot change it.
It's like you cannot change the 2nd amendment or the "natural born citizen" clause in the constitution or the anchor baby constitutional problem etc. And your constitutional "only" requires 3/4th of the states ratifying the constitutional change!
>>79193650
thats a givin innit .. the kikes are swarming around corbyn now hoping for a watered down EU ..
Corbyn was strong today demanding EU monies
>>79193796
No you probably can change a lot of those if you get the right justices on the scotus who have a tendency to legislatively rule
>>79193223
>You havent beaten America ever in its history and withiut America and NATO you would have had been no match for the Soviets
I did not say we won. I said we opposed people until we were completely destroyed.
This is how Germany negotiates. There will be no compromise on fundamental principles with the UK.
>>79193966
This is why is EU is finished.
>>79193796
We have changed our constitution many times
>>79193319
>There are no principles in Germany anymore.
If you knew anything about Germany, you would know that the whole migrant mess is caused by German leaders sticking at the letter of the law without thinking (the GEneva convention and Dublin III rules and asylum laws and Schengen)
>>79190793
I am sure UK "our trade is at a 70 billion deficit with Europe and they represent an ever decreasing part of our trade and services" lads are trembling at fear of Germany blowing away it's trade surplus.
>>79193796
seriously You Have been Cucked very Much if we say we want point systems we getting them .. an China who Produces everything in your living room now Loves us an wants a special trade deals ..
>>79193619
VW? Audi?
I notice you don't reply to any of my other points, are you conceding them?
>>79193796
>But you cannot change it.
when we said we wanted to leave the EU, 17 years ago, they all laughed, well, they're not laughing anymore
if free movement is not banned under the deal, there will be more attacks by brillopad madmen, I expect, perhaps even a full scale civil war
>>79194100
What? Dublin III says refugees have to stay in the first safe country they enter.
>>79193525
>are you confused? we are talking aboutthe UK, not grece
We don't discriminate against brown people, regardless whether it is Greeks or Brits - we all treat them the same.
>>79193911
>>79193966
you gotta finess germany. Give it a little tappy, talk nice to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-br7JKuaZHQ
>>79193318
You will be a muslim nation in a few decades. The eternal anglo-cucks.
>>79190793
lol, we will not declare article 50 until January, then we will string out talks, agreeing to nothing, for 2 years while your currency and companies bleed to death.
Germoney sells us twice what we sell them, so if you want to damage that trade you damage yourself at a rate of 2:1.
We will offer an amazing trade deal to the 1st country to exit the EU after us during our 2-year talking period.
We will also have a free trade area for the Anglosphere starting with Aus/NZ and then USA/Canada.
Deutsche Bank shall collapse and you will be a nation of boatniggers.
Its already happening.
Screencap this.
>>79193626
>With what money
They got a shitload of money. They just don't pay taxes. It is the Greek way. We have tried for 6 years to change this.
>>79194100
If China builds BMWs they stole from you at a fraction of cost you are going to be begging in the strassess
>>79192417
Why are high and low both red?
>>79194317
Dont pick on my Dad you dickhead ..Kek
>>79194438
Now you pay them, and if you stop, your banks go bust. Good plan Fritz. They want to Grexit anyway.
>>79194297
well, you'd better start making exceptions, or the market will turn against your products, even those who like the products will be afraid to show support for an unfriendly regime, lest yobbos and hooligans knife their tyres or scratch up their lovely paintwork
if you don't want to be our friends, why would we want to buy your stuff?
>>79191142
This.
>>79194456
China can't into Spaltmaß. It's not as easy as you think to copy German products because it requires a healthy dose of autism. Only ones who could pull it off are the Swiss or the Japanese.
>>79194078
>We have changed our constitution many times
The last time you changed it in 1992... an amendment that was submitted to Congress in 1789... after 202 years.
At least in Europe we have since 1992 changed the constitution 5 times, and the longest ratification took 3 years...
>>79193796
the eu is the only reason you have an economy, because it's not like your consortiums know any fucking thing about business. it's the reason why all your manufacturing can farm production outside of germany and into the cheaper east and south, and actually stay competitive against overseas companies. because your socialist business model is so uncompetitive that without spain and greece deflating the euro no one in the world could afford your products. if you went back to the dm your economy would collapse; it was already faltering by the 90s. you succeeded not because you were any good, but because britain spent the postwar period destroying itself (nationalisation of industry) and america was distracted paying for everyone else's defence. you can only survive by keeping the periphial nations in the eu down. you're a fucking vampire and the rest of europe is getting sick of your shit. you owe those idealogues in brussels everything, and the irony is that that deal with the devil will reduce germans completely to the level of mixed race automatons in a strange sort of continental export sweatshop. so who fucking cares what you think.
and still no one will ever forget world war 2.
>>79194438
>It is the Greek way. We have tried for 6 years to change this.
there you go again, thinking you have the right to tell others what to do
>>79194347
Very True an Well Posted Senpai ..Respect
most here dont see we are the Bosses now
an if we want to deport we do .. an only let in Proper folk like Oz
Excuse me. But I may have a plan to tip the scale over to Germany against the British....for a price.
You see, through the centuries...I have been an abused housewife, all cleaning and only receiving beating for my acomplishments.
What do I have?
Well, I am acquainted with a country with one of the largest reserves of "Thorium"
If you think Hydrogen is dangerous....Germany should try Thorium.
>>79194100
>If you knew anything about Germany, you'd know the whole migrant mess was because of our shit-loving self-loathing jew-gold hoarding leadership wanting to replace the expensive national population with cheaper migrant labour and keep our prices down so we can still survive internationally
>>79194740
It one thing to have free trade and meetings, it's another thing to bully sovereign states into some bullshit.
>>79194271
>What? Dublin III says refugees have to stay in the first safe country they enter.
It is more complicated than that.
I suggest you actually read the Dublin III regulation.
It says, yes, the application should be logged where a refugee is first registered. But Greece didn't register anyone for many months, so we could not send them back. Plus there are loopholes for people below the age of 18, for people with families in Germany and for people registered in Greece or Hungary where courts said they would not get a fair asylum treatment.
>>79194297
You mean you lube up and bend over
>>79194646
an You think the Chinese wont import Nips to steal an reproduce you First class Motors Washers an Top Tier Goods an sells them cheap as chips to Our New Vibrant nation ..
>>79194456
both bmw and mercedes have already outsourced to the us. long ago actually.
>>79194321
>You will be a muslim nation in a few decades. The eternal anglo-cucks.
We might be a Muslim nation, but you are already a black-Hispanic nation.
Both futures aren't good. But at least we are still 95% fully white and our Turkish numbers are going down lately, because many go back to Turkey (not kidding).
>>79194297
>We don't discriminate against brown people,
Thank you Germany. We best buds now.
>>79194646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_U.S._International
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_US_Manufacturing_Company
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Benz
>As of 2009, Beijing Benz assembles and manufactures the Mercedes-Benz E-Class (long wheelbase), C-Class, and GLK-Class in China.[3]
lol
We will join the single market and have unchecked immigration again
>>79192805
Just proves how childish they are. This is a man that they all snickered at, held as a punchline to their jokes, and refused to even consider the grievances of, legitimate fundamental problems with the EU he was identifying, for 17 years. Now when he suddenly makes them eat their words from all of those years of condescension, do they take it like adults? Hell no, they're proving him more and more right with every bitter snip and ridiculous demand they make.
>>79194500
>Why are high and low both red?
Red means "this is bad". "High" in risk of disruption is red, beause that is bad, "Low" in "access likelihood to EU single market" is bad too.
>>79194607
>They want to Grexit anyway.
Why did they vote against Grexit then, twice? GErmany was the only country that proposed a Grexit to them and have them leave and get their own currency and a debt restructuring.
>>79195020
>bully sovereign states into some bullshit.
which is what you do
because you can't compete
the entire eu is in order to keep german manufacturing afloat. without the cheap labour of the east and the depressed euro, you're entire economy would collapse
because your business and social model is far too expensive and inefficient
>>79194849
Grow up porto maddie peado lad ok
talk again an we trident your shit nation ..now
>>79194618
>if you don't want to be our friends, why would we want to buy your stuff?
Nobody would think Germany is not UK's friend. We would arrange it so that e.g. Slovenia or Slovakia or Austria turns out the bad guy, not us.
>>79192349
Enjoy laying off 20% of your automotive workforce. Oh, and Merkel's going to expect you to find jobs for 2 million refugees at the same time. No skin of our backs, we'll just buy elsewhere or build them ourselves.
>>79191005
the fact that /pol/ can regularly call someone who had literally the same politics as Stalin outside of the whole übermensch thing, the "good guys", truly makes me rage.
you fucking pinko commie parasites, I hope you all die asap
>>79190793
Further proof, were it needed, that the EU was never about "European unity" or even economics, as was sold to the respective European nations, it was always about concentrating the most power with the fewest people. What else explains the slavish adherence to the "principles" in the EU, clearly the Eurocrats don't have the best interests of business in mind, since businesses on the continent want a free trade deal to happen as quickly as possible. Clearly it's not about pragmatic politics, facilitating agreements between European nations, else there would be some leeway in the treaties or some notion of "states rights", yet both seem absent at this stage. So the people of Europe should be asking themselves "just what is the EU for?"
>>79193444
We can impose the same level of tariffs you can. Either way, it's cheaper than paying into the EU.
>>79194758
>thinking you have the right to tell others what to do
Of course we have the right to tell Greece what to do. They took 100 billion of our money. They have the option to get OUT OUT OUT or do what we say.
>>79195524
Ok, this is just stupid now.
>>79195099
The Chinese will sell CMW like the BMW Kek'd
Invoke article 50 from the Lisbon Treaty. Refusal to do so will result in the forceful annexation of northern Ireland and Scottish uprisal from the south.
You cannot win Britain. Not this time. It's over.
>>79192931
Sounds good to us, Hans. Where do you want the first nuke. Berln? Hanover? Munich?
>>79195552
The plus sign gets it.
>>79194438
And they need another bailout by the end of summer or they're broke again.
So will Italy for that matter.
You should have let them pull out and reinstate the Drachma.
Why accept movement of people, though?
The EU are salty fucks and we'll never get equivalent trade deals to match the cost of migration, we didn't before and we certainly won't know.
Just do business with everyone that isn't the EU, watch as they squirm under the dawning realisation they're alone and their member states are getting restless.
>>79195489
Stop drinking and leaving your kids alone!! Who the fuck does that?!
>>79193796
Yes we can change it.
>>79195020
YOU'RE LITERALLY TRYING TO BULLY BRITAIN INTO AGREEING TO THE FREE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE, YOU STUPID JERRY.
>>79193966
This is why we voted to leave, sunshine.
>>79195691
You do know Portugal is our historic ally and still has an old law allowing free movement between us
>>79195540
>Enjoy laying off 20% of your automotive workforce.
WTF? There is nothing the UK can do to block our cars. Why should we lay off our workforce? What we will actually do is stop producing in the UK and rather produce even more in Germany and Romania to export to the UK.
>>79195813
>who does that
Human garbage.
>>79191005
>>79193615
>>79195596
>So the people of Europe should be asking themselves "just what is the EU for?"
It has been about the 4 freedoms forever. It will always be about the 4 freedoms. Defending them is not weakness or corruption, it is what the EU stands for.
>>79196037
amazing
>>79195691
3 .....2 ...1 Missiles away .. 10 mins to NUKE detonation paedo porto land
You were warned maddie raper
>>79195942
Again. You assume people will want to buy anything from Germany.
I wouldn't condone such behaviour but there wouldn't be a German car in the land without a smashed window or three.
>>79195942
>Nothing the UK can do to block your cars.
Er, yes there is. It's called not buying them, especially if you try to start a trade war.
>>79195883
That iz the intention ya.
Ich bin lernen die Zunge meiner neuen Meister
Did I wrote it right?
>>79195601
>We can impose the same level of tariffs you can.
No, you cannot. You can only impose tariffs to a maximum set by the WTO, for instance a maximum of 10% for cars... and that would be imposed vice versa and will never ever ever happen, because nobody wants that.
Tariffs have nothing to do with the question of single market access, absolutely nothing.
>white people fighting each other over globalists mind games while all of them are being outbred in their home countries
the white race is done
>>79196102
pretty sure poortugal is under french protectorate and the french have nuclear weapons...
and many more than you lads
>>79196212
Sounds about right.
>>79190793
>Brits can either accept immigration without any limits from the EU, or be out of the single market.
nice coercive action germany. This is why other countries should get out of the EU.
>>79190793
the uk and usa need to fucking fire bomb you fucking assholes again very soon.
>>79195937
You didn't gave a shit about that during the pink map and when we lost Goa and Damão.
I think Germany respects us more than the english did through the centuries.
>>79195788
Totally agree they are taking the piss they like Ireland got huge EU loans an bankrupted small nations ..then hoping You Germanic Hans work over time in the car factory to pay for it .. shocking
>>79195443
Greece wants to Grexit now because they hate what Germoney have imposed on them, they thought the monnies was all free gibs.
"Bloomberg Poll: 71% of Economists Believe Grexit Will Happen by the End of 2016 - "
They have taken all your money and are going to just leave.
>>79195524
>Nobody would think Germany is not UK's friend.
kek, nice delusion you have there
if the EU fucks us, our people will be much less inclined to buy ANY EU products, and Germany is the largest exporter to us, and everyone knows merkel wears the pants in the EU
>>79195644
>Of course we have the right to tell Greece what to do. They took 100 billion of our money.
well, their politicians did, but no parliament may bind its successor
>>79195942
to a country whose people you just upset? my dad's company has 400 or so sales reps, and the lease is up next year. will he go for audis or renaults? or maybe nissans or toyotas?
how will you help him to decide? maybe he even pays the sunset fee to get out of the leases early
>>79195711
Trident FTW
>>79195644
ahhh germans. eu solidarity eh?
>lets not look into their accounts too much, we want them in the eu to keep our prices down
>oh look they've exploded because the currency we have made compulsory is too highly valued for their economy
>now they will do what we tell them too, and they will fall into the ever closer union we've talked about and advanced since the beginning
>ooh poor germany, we are the victims, we didnt want to invade europe twice and institutionalise the brutal oppression of the conquered, we were forced to by the eternal anglo
you need to understand that if you start another war there will be no germans left at the end of it.
>>79195821
>Yes we can change it.
How can we change freedom of movement of the EU single market? You need every state to agree in the EU, as well as Iceland, Switzerland and Norway. That is virtually impossible.
>>79196226
We wouldn't be the ones to impose it though. You'd be the ones to impose a tariff on Britain trading with the common market. And we'd respond in kind.
It's quite simple Fritz; we're being kind here. We want to help Germany and keep buying your goods and keeping your people in employment.
But if you start a trade war or block us from the free market because we don't want free movement of people, we'll respond in kind and Vorsprung Durch Technik will become 'Vere iz se dole office?'
ok but this is germanys Christmas card this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY1WX2uS34I
>>79194646
Whats Spaltmaß? Does this have some colloquial meaning I'm mising- or is this der famous Germanic bantz?
>>79195942
Bullshit. I owned one of your shitty VW's once.
It was such shit Hyundai was the best I could do in trade. And yes, that tin box from Korea beats your shit all day, any day.
>>79196061
>it is what the EU stands for
you seem to have forgotten that we've voted to leave, your 4 principles are fine for you, but they will no longer apply to us
>>79196408
>if the EU fucks us, our people will be much less inclined to buy ANY EU products, and Germany is the largest exporter to us, and everyone knows merkel wears the pants in the EU
This.
True or not, Germany will get the blame because everything thinks Merkel is the puppet-master.
Perception is reality.
>>79190793
>or be out of the single market
We're out thanks.
>>79196061
>It has been about the 4 freedoms forever.
So this is about raising the project above any and all good sense? That's a bizarre stance to take given the increasing Eurosceptic sentiment across Europe. When so many people have grown tired of the overbearing EU, adding more EU is not the answer.
You might win the battle against Britain, but with this attitude you will loose the war.
>>79195813
Your dirty sand niggers did her... the whole EU Know you a nation of inbred paedos like Belguim
>>79196462
It's not impossible; you signed tariff free trade agreements with Columbia and Mexico for God's sake. They can access the common market just fine without needing a free movement of people clause. Why can't Britain?
You know what? I'm even fine with there being a light tariff. Why? Because it's cheaper than EU payment and it'll only hurt you.
>>79196446
Except this time it isn't Germany versus Europe, is britain versus Europe.
To be honestn too many Mehmet entered their country to rape and pillage, BUT STILL that is not reason to leave, and if leaving the eu, you don't demand rights.
>>79196061
syria is not a member state
nice try
>>79195883
its points makes Prizes ..lol
You couldn't have had your superstate with England in the EU. It all makes sense.
>>79196169
>Again. You assume people will want to buy anything from Germany.
The average Brit doesn't even know that e.g. the Mini is a German car or that Vauxhall is a German car or that Arriva buses are German or that British railways use German engines etc. etc.
And if they cannot even be bothered to check what they buy, why should German cars be not bought any more? Do you think rich Brits won't by Lamborghinis any more (which are basically Audis) or Seats or Skodas (both are Volkswagens) etc.?
>>79196476
>But if you start a trade war or block us from the free market
The last time someone tried to fuck over our free market was the Chinese and it didn't end well for them.
Bring it on please Germany.
>>79196061
you know the funny thing about the four freedoms?
they're all capitalist business principles
an entire political entity founded on the blending of corporate and political prerogative
which is actually one of the principles of facism
in the anglosphere, 'freedom' is all about individual rights. in the german eu it's all about corporatised privileges.
and you don't see the issue with that.
fucking germans. this is why everyone hates you.
>>79191005
As an American for saying that I should cut your balls off and mail them to Merkel to stomp on them traitor.
>>79196226
how is deutche bank these days?
>>79196698
It hurts you more than it hurts us, you know. Only 6% of British firms trade with the EU, most of them are vital for EU businesses to keep operating (Airbus, MBDA, etc).
>>79196277
>nice coercive action germany. This is why other countries should get out of the EU.
So I assume that if Texas said "we don't want Yanks to come to Texas any more but we want full access to the US market" that would be a-ok for you?
>>79195942
You getting your arse whipped tonight Hans eh ..Top God Tier Kek Here
I like the fact that the EU was based on the principle to monitor europe and Germany for no more wars, with England being part of it.
Now, it's getting kicked out by the very countries it was supposed to monitor.
C'mon, it's a bit ironic. It's like kicking out the jailor from the prison.
>>79196925
To give him some credit at least he is not retreating from the fight.... as for the Italians....
>>79196698
>Except this time it isn't Germany versus Europe, is britain versus Europe.
no, it won't be
the german position is based on everyone seeing no alternative, like every abusive relationship ever.
>>79190793
Just ship the goods through Norway. Problem solved.
>>79196898
maybe. what to see in texas. oh god kids we can't visit the alamo.
>Brits thought they could be free by leaving the EU
>>79196381
>"Bloomberg Poll: 71% of Economists Believe Grexit Will Happen by the End of 2016 - "
Nice link you got there. I assume all Greeks are economists?
>>79196408
>our people will be much less inclined to buy ANY EU products
Why do people buy Chinese products or Jap products or German products or buy Saudi oil or Russian oil and gas?
>>79196408
>will he go for audis or renaults? or maybe nissans or toyotas?
They will have to take the best offer. That is how companies have to operate to make a profit.
>>79196500
I had a VW golf, I loved it until it started fucking up. firstly the alarm started going off at random intervals in the night, then the rear windscreen wiper would start randomly turning itself on. felt pretty silly driving down the motorway with teh rear windscreen wiper going, people must have thought I was a right tard! Then the tape player started randomly chewing up tapes. It was brand new when I got it too
>>79196037
How is this an argument? I mean seriously, do you think /pol/ all looks like that? Do you think Neo-nazi thugs are representative of all people who would rather have a Europe of strong and healthy nation states than what we have now, with the races of Europe and the West in decline for the better half of the last century and the first sixteen of this century?
>>79197023
Britain wasn't part of the EEC until the 1970s.
>>79197035
They have the common wealth, they'll be fine.
>>79197035
Britain should offer to setup a free trade zone of its own, and seduce EU countries away and into it. All of the stuff they like...and none of the stuff they dont like.
>>79196882
It's been fucked since 2008. What of it?
>>79196354
>Germany respects us more than the english
Too fucking right m8
>>79196898
Change yanks to Commiefornians and I'm in full support of this.
>>79197135
It needs to underwrite Italy and Greece by the end of this year.
>>79196898
>So I assume that if Texas said "we've got too many people and not enough jobs, particularly for the less skilled, so we'd rather less skilled Yanks no longer seek employment in Texas any more but we want full access to the US market" that would be a-ok for you?
I'd guess that would be okay, it's certainly okay to me, hell it's completely sensible for a nation to set out what kind of people it wants coming into to it's labour force.
>>79196818
>Britannia rules the waves
>>79196446
>>oh look they've exploded because the currency we have made compulsory is too highly valued for their economy
They collapsed because they were (and still are) corrupt and don't pay taxes and had (and still have) a bloated government with every 5th person being a state employee shill.
>>79190793
>>79197184
k e k
ITT: giant retards.
Nobody ever denied that accepting freedom of movement will continue in order for us to access the eu single market. it's non-negotiable. We're aware of that.
>>79190793
If they won't give concessions when the rest of the world is offering trade with us, they're inviting their own doom, not ours.
We can trade with the rest of the world, and the EU can't.
>>79196242
Froggies Darent turn on us ..they leaving next EU .. whole of French media news is Banned today as French Govt shittying it they want Mudslimes out
Brexit is "a slap in the face to the European system, which was increasingly based on fear, blackmail and lies."
President of the far right Front National, Marine Le Pen, delivers strong words in favour of Britain leaving the EU.
They are Bros next Lads ..they revolting in the cities an Police have joined them see RT News
>>79197071
>thought
No, we will be free and that is final.
Also Boris has been called out for wanting to keep the EU market, we will most likely leave it, we don't need it considering we have a large list of nations that want an FTA that makes up in total 3x the population of Europe.
lel.
>>79190793
they've made a law?
No.
Just hot air.
>implying China wont trade
>implying USA wont trade
>implying Russia wont trade
>implying Latin America wont trade
>implying European countries outside the EU wont trade
Stop with the empty threats and the propaganda, the EU will come back begging asking for trade deals as soon as the UK is officially out, all they are doing now is scare tactics to prevent others from exiting.
>>79191005
>ywn be in the English division of the Waffen SS securing a beautiful future for your woman and kids
>>79190793
Why is massive, unrestricted immigration so important to them? Is the white genocide meme real? Or is there some logical reason behind this craziness?
>>79196560
Without the 4 freedoms the EU is dead and can be dissolved.
Similarly if the UK would stop its freedom of movement among the 4 nations that make up the UK, it could just dissolve.
ALSO. No one is going to war!
Because if we war, I have a feeling I'll get fucked.
So, England will not have it.
>>79196813
>The average Brit doesn't even know that e.g. the Mini is a German car or that Vauxhall is a German car
the average german doesn't realise that germany doesn't even make an increasing percentage of the worlds german cars. i notice you ignored my previous post.
you're too expensive and your own companies and government are outsourcing you. that's hilarious. you're still standing here and talking about your master race.
your cars aren't particularly good or special. even the chinese can make them. and do.
>>79197128
>They have the common wealth, they'll be fine.
they really fucking don't.
They should leave the single market concession or no. It will damage the EU more than the other way and they have essentially been threating a trade war since this happened.
>>79196658
>hey can access the common market just fine without needing a free movement of people clause. Why can't Britain?
You don't know what the access to the single market is, right?
Tariffs have little to do with full access to the single markets. It is 90% non-tariff access, especially for capital, services and workers.
>>79193128
Where you from, lad?
>>79195789
>Just do business with everyone that isn't the EU, watch as they squirm under the dawning realisation they're alone and their member states are getting restless.
For illustrative purpose: here is a picture of a union that is alone.
>>79197135
only brexit has pushed it closer to the edge.
you realise the brexit is probably going to damage the eu economy as much as the british one? all of that finance...
>>79197522
>It will damage the EU more than the other way
Some validation seems to be in order.
>>79197031
the wops are a fucking EU National Disgrace=historically Kek ..I Never see a real wop here
>>79197437
freedom of movement is fine when the population is ethnically the same and have similar living standards
>>79197521
What you mean, they don't? It's the fucking common wealth. United States is not a dick and the worst europe will do will be a tax or two, so I don't see why Britain wants prized treatement. Taking the bullshit aside.
>>79196830
>they're all capitalist business principles
>an entire political entity founded on the blending of corporate and political prerogative
There is very little about the EU which is political. People just make the "political EU" shit up. The EU is 95% about economics and capitalism.
>>79197357
I would not have believed it, had you told me six months ago, that I would admire, and unreservedly admire, British defenses of freedom.
>>79197602
That map need scottland blue and northern ireland.
>>79196381
"Grexit" isn't going to save Greace from shit. If anything, it's going to make their situation 10,000x worse.
Imagine a Really Pissed Off Germany ... NOT being restrained by being in the same coalition as the debtor country trying to welsh out on its denbts.
Fucking Greesefags ... you stupid bitches better figure out, _BEFORE_ you pull that trigger, that staying in the EU with Germany is your best and only protection from getting severely, anally rekt while the EU stands by and says "Meh. No sense pissing Germany off. Fucking Greace owes, Germany gets to collect ... and it provides a nice distraction for Germany in the meanwhile."
I can assure you, there won't be any American cavalry running to be your savior. Not only do we fucking hate you almost as much as Turkroaches, it's just plain fucking funny. Be even more hilarious when Germany shows up and decides you can get the fuck off your clay, run into Turkey or Russia, or just fucking die.
Make a great vacation spot for Germanbros.
Oh. Wait. Wat? You say? Your back-up plan is to invite Putin over so you can suck on his cock?
Comedy gold, you greasy faggots. Fucking comedy gold.
>>79197224
they collapsed because you sucked them into your union, forced a currency on them that they can't devalue and used them as a mechanism to keep the euro down and your exports affordable.
>>79192060
German education, everyone.
>>79197422
Countries must have growth in population to feed welfare state and borrowing.
The alternative is growth in productivity but that is hitting a wall (UK productivity flat for 9 years).
Future productivity gains are likely to be at the expense of other jobs (robotics, AI, etc).
The answer is to focus on quality of life, increase productivity, and reduce welfare spending back to manageable levels. Personally I would also use western nation GDPs to purchase large masses of land in Africa where they are sparsely populated.
>>79197521
Really?
http://pulse.com.gh/business/after-brexit-ghana-britain-trade-talks-begin-immediately-hannah-tetteh-id5188747.html
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-27/turnbull-orders-orders-urgent-review-of-brexit-implications/7546890
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-eu-referendum-latest-iceland-norway-greenland-faroe-islands-a7105641.html
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/brexit-could-make-it-easier-for-australians-to-live-and-work-in-the-uk/news-story/57498d1e37421b48679c7157ccc2f531
http://colombiareports.com/colombia-proposes-include-uk-pacific-alliance-trade-pact/
http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/politics_and_society/2016/06/25/brexit_is_good_news_says_president_of_iceland/
http://dailysignal.com/2016/06/28/after-brexit-paul-ryan-calls-for-special-trade-deal-with-britain/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/brexit-ceta-canada-eu-trade-deal-1.3650708
https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-may-seek-bilateral-fta-uk-brexit-023405513--business.html
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/06/27/uk-consulate-offers-post-brexit-reassurances-on-hong-kong-trade-relations/
http://en.tempo.co/read/news/2016/06/25/055783021/Indonesia-Believes-Brexit-will-Not-Affect-Bilateral-Relations
http://www.cityam.com/241014/back-of-the-queue-no-britains-commonwealth-friends-and-allies-would-welcome-brexit
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-canada-mexico-idUSKCN0ZF0BV
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1358907/britain-set-to-open-immediate-trade-talks-with-australia-and-south-korea/
http://heatst.com/uk/11-countries-gearing-up-to-strike-trade-deals-with-britain/
http://icelandreview.com/news/2016/06/27/efta-plans-cooperation-uk
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11664164
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/business/388355/time-push-nzs-cause-farm-lobby
Potentially Mexico too;
http://www.ukip.org/mexico_confirms_it_wants_a_trade_deal_with_a_post_brexit_britain
>>79197602
What are the white dots in italy?
>>79197437
>Without the 4 freedoms the EU is dead and can be dissolved.
Free movement of people only happened in 1997, hardly written in stone.
>it could just dissolve.
No it wouldn't, there's a lot more to a union than just the ability of people to move between countries. Also:
>38 posts by this ID
How can you be so triggered by this? Are you that autistic?
>>79193128
faggot detected .. Hans is glad from being Battered lets oust this fucktard
>>79197437
>equating the EU to the UK
really mohammad? our union was not shit out of the soviet era in a few decade.
>>79197901
>ghana
stopped reading there. enjoy ghana
>>79197727
>The EU is 95% about economics and capitalism.
when that forms the basis of your government at the institutional level then yeah, it's about politics.
>>79197692
>freedom of movement is fine when the population is ethnically the same and have similar living standards
The UK has the highest unequalness between different areas and London is mopping up all the people from the poor areas.
So WTF?
>>79197847
Why? Scotland has already been told they aren't getting into the EU.
Want me to post a long list of links that you'll most likely ignore to back up my claim?
>>79197771
lel
>>79197901
>ghana
pls stop
>>79197640
See UK trade deficit, 80 billion in export's your country sells to them
What a fucking load of shite that's been written here. Just goes to show how goddamn clueless people are.
The UK will enter the EEA and Germany and the rest of the EU will proactively engage in negotiations to make sure that the overall loss to both sides will remain as small as possible.
All this shittalk about 'ah, we will just sell to the Chinese' just goes to show that you all have absolutely no fucking clue about international trade. There's a very good reason why the UK/EU trade relations have been so tight even prior to the UK's admission to the EU, and it's not geographical vicinity.
>>79197640
The EU can't trade outside its own bloc. It's failed in any attempt to secure any large trading partners.
The same partners are lining up to trade with us because we're a massive Economy and the EU is totally failing to negotiate.
That "won't back down" thing isn't working for you guys.
>>79197700
We just want mutual trade with the EU, without accepting their laws and without accepting free movement.
Since our trade deficit leans in their favour, it's beneficial for them to accept this.
That along with the fact that we're a major economy with NO trading partners, every country under the sun wants to snap us up with trade offers, we can now pick and choose. Europe can't. It can choose to have our trade or not.
>>79197952
I bet you did, we won't be taking the people from Ghana like the EU does though.
http://eeas.europa.eu/ghana/index_en.htm
>>79197861
>they collapsed because you sucked them into your union, forced a currency on them that they can't devalue and used them as a mechanism to keep the euro down and your exports affordable.
BS, read up on the Greek collapse. They overspent, were corrupt, didn't pay taxes, had 20% government employees who didn't do shit, had politicians embezzeling money and spent it on F-16s and submarines etc.
Greece would have collapsed no matter what currency it had or if it had been part of a Turkish union or Saudi arabia union etc.
>>79196698
>and if leaving the eu, you don't demand rights
you've got it backwards. it's BECAUSE we demand our rights that we are leaving
>>79196813
>The average Brit doesn't even know that e.g. the Mini is a German car or that Vauxhall is a German car or that Arriva buses are German or that British railways use German engines etc. etc.
kek "Ishould not have said that, oh no, I should not have said that!"
might want to keep such facts under your hat if you don't want us boycotting them
>Do you think rich Brits won't by Lamborghinis any more (which are basically Audis) or Seats or Skodas (both are Volkswagens) etc.?
rich brits buy skodas?
>>79196898
the EU and trhe USA are not comparable situations, as they actually do have representation
>>79197110
>Why do people buy Chinese products or Jap products or German products or buy Saudi oil or Russian oil and gas?
because they want them? what are you trying to say? that we'll just continue buying because we like the products and prices? well you missed out the fact that screwing us over would make non-EU products MUCH more desirable
>They will have to take the best offer. That is how companies have to operate to make a profit.
yet the nissan offer is 12% cheaper than the audi one, although most of the reps say they prefer the audi one as it helps the brand image, therefore helping to drive sales
>>79198051
That's only 7% of our exports. 50% of their exports go to the EU.
Are you implying that 7% > 50%?
man my german "brethren" are such cucks
what do you have 180 nukes for great britain ?
...use them before it is too late...you created this monster known as fed. rep. of germany now kill it
the german reunification was a mistake...
>>79197905
San Marino
Vatican City
>>79198044
Why? Trade is trade. The EU trades with Ghana and a hell of a lot of other nations.
Gold and cocoa not your thing I take it?
>>79197857
>"Grexit" isn't going to save Greace from shit.
Yes you are right, but Greece could Grexit, default on everything, go back to Drachma, and become a low cost, low tax, low wage economy where they might have a chance of doing some business.
Yes they would have nothing to eat but fish and olives, and no more foreign cars, but they would have been able to rebuild. Hell if Greece had exited initially they would be on the road to recovery now.
As it stands they are still fucked AND still have vast denbts which they can no more pay now than ever.
This is why Varoufakis was fired, he pointed out to them the only way Greece could recover is if someone forgave its debts.
>>79197700
what the fuck are you even talking about darkie? germany doesn't have any 'common wealth'. it has a bunch of states that are only kept in union because their leaders refuse to counter any alternative, and their economies have been stagnant for decades. there is no common wealth there.
>>79197901
you fucking muppet. that's the commonwealth. i was telling that fucking nigger that no one likes germany and he responded by saying nah-ah, there is common wealth in europe and they'll stick together.
>>79198084
>ah, we will just sell to the Chinese'
I have experience with Chinese. They hate those Mongolians and Japanese. PLus they make shitty toys and shitty weapons.
Don't buy shitty weapons from china.
>>79191005
Proof Sylvester Stallone is a time traveling reptilian.
>>79192060
Damn. Even I as a stupid America know what you said was dumb.
>>79196354
what does portugal produce anyway? apart from soccer and tourism?
>>79197880
>German education, everyone.
Are you saying the US has exited the EU? I am not aware of such an event, considering the US has never been part of the EU.
>>79198373
Sex Tourism.
>>79191005
>20 good men
>>79191895
"German way" oh please ahmed, its really not.
we account for around 15% of your exports, if we dont get the single market your economy goes down with ours. Merkels said it herself, she wants to work with us and help us gain free trade status as it benefits both countries.
>>79197905
Vatican city and, I shit you not, "the Most Serene Republic of San Marino"
>>79197909
>Free movement of people only happened in 1997, hardly written in stone.
You are talking about Schengen, which has nothing to do with the four freedoms.
The four freedoms existed when the EU was established in 1992 in the Maastricht treaty.
>>79197905
surrender flag Factories
Stand strong UK.
When Trump wins, be buddy-buddy with him and the USA and the UK can collectively tell the world to eat a bag full of dicks when it comes to accepting shitskins.
>>79198548
15% sure will hurt us. 50% would destroy us. Luckily you're the one with the 50% exports into the EU. The EU is in a position of strength because you've much more to lose (50% of your economy) than we do (15% of ours.)
