When will Romania and Hungary form Romgary?
>>79168648
Gay flag for a gay name
>>79168648
hungary is pretty based, they wouldn't want to join gypsy country
>>79169622
Gay people too.
You mean Great Hungary? Oh dont worry, we're building the tanks already
>>79170427
>Building tanks
Nigga we are going to send gypsies on the front lines and they'll just mass disassamble your tanks.
>>79170427
kek
>>79170427
Will you fuck your tanks like you fuck your horses?
>>79170543
> you will never see two gypsie armies fight with swords and aluminium poles
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>>79170427
Can't wait for round 3.
>>79170543
What will you do when Hungary sends this?
>>79170427
This.
First Székelys get autonomy, then conquer
>>79170640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiTE3tfe7qM
MAGYAR PLS
>>79170640
Why even live?
>>79170790
oh god my sides
>>79170706
DELETE THIS
>>79170760
1. That's clearly got Iron in it, so it stands no chance.
2. If the regular Adeptus Gipysius Mechanicus do not do their jobs we'll send these guys >>79170790
>>79171016
atleast he does not have an inbred sloopy negroid forehead, beady eyes and weakling frame
Got another one for you guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeU4X58QSs4
Remember that one time the gypsies stole a nigger's stolen bike for Xmas?
Ate kurtos kolaczs in Unirii where mcdonalds is, so good man
>>79171016
amerikek pls
>>79171428
GET OUT ROACHES
>>79171590
iohanis is a kraut, to be fair
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>>79171631
sit, boy
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>>79172521
is this map's colors based on skin tone?
>>79170543
underrated even for all the attention it got
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>>79172521
I see Romanians are classified as niggers.
>>79173480
Trianon was perfectly fair. Bozgors are just assblasted because of muh empire
>>79170427
cringe
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>>79173632
>can't read a map
I bet you idiots get lost alot!
Sure why not.
>>79171044
>Adeptus Gipysius Mechanicus
Kek
>>79173675
to be honest, Mr. Woodrow "rotten teeth" Wilson said all countries should have right to determine what country they want to be in. But this were just empty words, since this right didnt apply for citizens of defeated countries. Not that I complain, if Germs could decide in 1918, we would have post Munich treaty borders by now. But its just one of the first Yank hypocricies of their self righteousness
>>79168648
When will Spain and Portugal form Spaintugal?
>>79174568
>Spaintugal
no. Iberia
>>79168648
>Romgary
>Not Hungmania
>>79174568
When France stops being a black country.
i.e. never
>>79174493
exactly, and Transylvania choosed to be romanian.
>>79168648
Why not make something bigger? Something better.
>>79170760
Steal it
>>79175220
Yes, absolutely dont even think about the slight possibility that in 1918 the hungarians outnumbered romanians at every point in northern erdély you fucking lying faggot, and ofcourse there were like 500.000 hungarians in southern erdély too.
>Transylvania choosed to be romanian.
>>79171296
0:42
>the Hofficer
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>>79175220
Bro, Transylvania WAS Romanian!
>>79175982
Muhammad... please!
>>79175746
See this:
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>>79174083
Romanians were a majority in all of Transylvania!
>>79175746
>Magyars still believe the "we outnumbered romanians!" meme
KYS
>>79176018
i was talking about 1919 when we forced a democratic regime just before Trianon, and we would have got it democratically without war anyway.
>>79175746
hungarians were almost a small minority in Transylvania, they rose in number with imported szeklers(who made more than half of hungarians in Transylvania) and after 1848 with magyarization.
>>79176448
This map is wrong though
>>79176684
how is it wrong
>>79174658
>educated eagle
>>79176347
romanian fuckboy believes the state made lies about a fabricated history. k
>>79176448
Hungarians in 1940 outnumbered romanians by a margin of 54.6%.
Hungarian population in Northern Erdély 2.460.000. Romanian 1.344.000... So shut the fuck up about minority. You have no right for this land, and never had nor will be. You haven't done shit against its invaders. Very good example is the wars against turkroaches. Your people just caved in and became a protectorate so yeah... sorry to break your glorious romanian propaganda.
>>79177529
>Hungarian population in Northern Erdély 2.460.000. Romanian 1.344.000.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhah
Show me an OFFICIAL census for this.Every census ever done in Transylvania showed romanians BY FAR majority.
>You have no right for this land, and never had nor will be. You haven't done shit against its invaders. Very good example is the wars against turkroaches. Your people just caved in and became a protectorate so yeah... sorry to break your glorious romanian propaganda.
We are the aboriginals not only of Transylvania but of South-Eastern Europe, romanised thraco-getae-dacian tribes, while you are magyarised slavo-germano-romanians-gypsies and everything else, by the bashkir madjar on-ogur tribe.
>>79177529
Dis anon is right the butthurt Romanian ITT is probably a dirty southerner mixed with turks
>>79177529
>muh romanian propaganda
>muh romanian lies
Go an look at the records about the population of Transylvania mongol boy. Don't talk about 1940 when Romanians were forced to leave!
>>79177910
its funnythat hungarians NEVER ever post official statistics/writtings, they only post hungarian ones.
1930 north transylvania census(this was before the 1940-1944 genocides done to romanians in north transylvania)
total:2,395,153
romanians:1,176,433
hungarians:911,556
germans:68,694
jews:138,885
other:99,585
>>79177853
fuck off bozgor
>>79177841
Wikipedia you fucking twat.
Why do you cling so so much to something so abrupt and nonsensical like that? Are your views of history that deeply twisted? Then I must feel sorry for if this is the so called truth romania teaches it's up and coming younglings then there is truly no hope for your country.
>>79178339
HAHAHAAHAHAH GYPSY DARE TO PROCLAIM ANYTHING CLOSELY RELATED TO STATISTICS
>>79178355
ahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahaahhaahh
so basically you have no census.Pathetic dirty liar.
C'mon bro im waiting here.Show me the official census from 1919 to 1940 because as far as it exists, the only census from taht span is the 1930 one showing 49% romanians, 38% hungarians in Northern Transylvania.
But look, even a bigger challenge.Show me a OFFICIAL CONTEMPORANY study throught Transylvania's history, that shows hungarians as majority.
>>79178571
why do you imitate me like a parrot?Are you this insecure?
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>>79178705
For the sake of Christ, can you PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP? Both of you are butthurting at each other since times of Tepes. It fucking over guys you will do shit. Of course Székelys can have some autonomy. Of course Transylvania is rightfully Romanian. And of course you are both acting like a fucking tsundares. Get over it m8s
>>79168648
Gay flag
Hungmania
>>79178588
Already showed you a map look back.
>>79178705
sorry didnt want to upset the official romanian standing, go on with your day.
>>79178820
Szekelrs cannot get any autonomy TERRITORIAL autonomy and never will.They can howevere get CULTURAL autonomy which they already have as the romanian constitution allows.
>>79178833
Having the asian "Hun" in a European country's name!
>>79178850
Your map is not a census and does not represent a census.Its a map drawn by a hungarian Teleki who does not represent an authority.
I am here and waiting for a census.You have 5 more minutes.
>>79179210
it is a census lol
>>79179141
Europe is a name given to a land mass that is its OWN tectonic plate. How do you think pre understanding shifting continents we all became one talking of some elitism. As far as Im concerned Im British, living in a shithole full of muslims and gypos. I have nothing in common with you lot. I dont sit down outside shops when hungry, I dont beat women if the dont want sex, I dont have kids when I have no safe place to bring them up, I dont take a car engine out of my 70s peugeot and strap a pony to it just to avoid MOT emissions failures. Whats your point?
>>79179141
Having a gypsy ROMANI in an "European" country's name
>>79179651
its a map drawn by Pal Teleki you fucking shithead.
Your time is up, you could not post an official census,insteas as the usual bozgor, you always come with hungarian made statistics.
>>79168648
Flag looks like scotland went full LGBTQIA+
Romania is 20+ years behind the rest of the world.
>>79179829
You forgot the fact that the people who made those maps have hard facts behind them. The romanian statistics on the other hand do not. It is just a way to strengthen your claim to the the clay you never owned.No matter what kind of "statistics" or censuses which have no meaning to them you might bring to a discussion. It won't give you the free pass to be sastisfied with yourself as a shitty romanian however deluded you may be.
>>79179818
Iliterate mongol, watch this!
>>79180364
and bulgaria is 50 years behind the world
>>79180435
This map is made by the British:
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>>79177529
>>>79176347 (You)
>romanian fuckboy believes the state made lies about a fabricated history. k
Kek
>calls me a fuckboy about believing state made lies about fabricated history while believing his modern revisionist state-made lies while our "lies" are backed up by their own data
KYS
>>79180464
kek you just contradicted yourself.
>nor with Romans, also unrelated
gypsies lol
>>79180435
>You forgot the fact that the people who made those maps have hard facts behind them.
there is no fact behind your map.The only fact that counts in a population map is the census behind it.There was no census behind yours.
> The romanian statistics on the other hand do not
The romanian statistics use the officially organised census datasheet.
Note:There is not one official census that shows hungarians as majority, from 1075 -1250 transylvanian censuses to those in 1945.You were always a foreign intruder here.
>t is just a way to strengthen your claim to the the clay you never owned
We have always owned this lands, for thousands of years and we will continue to have them for another thousands of years.
>>79180692
its funny how all the maps I posted ITT are made by non-romanians and are based on the actuall censuses while he never posted any official census.
Gotta be HungMania famalam
>>79180464
they all fled to other countries m8
>total population of gyppos: ~20 millions
>total population of Nig... I mean Romanians: ~24 millions
That means 4 millions of you identify as other national groups like Moldavian or Bulgarian.
Really makes ya think, isnt it?
>>79180915
Hahahaha, you truly are iliterate!
Read the sentence carefully, you know English don't you?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>79181137
he's trolling
>>79180862
Yes my deluded friend we back up that you were here before all of the ancient peoples of europe and even better mixed with them and created the famous legacy of the roman empire.
Thats why every castle in erdély is romanian made and every improvement within the last century were made by the romanians pertaining to erdély. fuckboy
>>79180935
You see my friend there IS a census behind that map.And it still doesn't matter how "official" is your census. It doesn't matter how your people rewrite your own made up history. You got overpopulated because we allowed it as a state. Because you didn't shed your blood for this land, and because in the wars that went on throughout history we that means HUNGARIANS died and not sheepfucking romanians hiding within their cuckblocks in erdély. And you never owned this land. We were the first official rulers of this land and not your made up romano-dacian "ancestors". After your migration from albania we allowed you to settle thats all.
>>79170427
Oh Hungary,the only nation so pathetic to have Romania as their archnemesis.
>>79180690
what about Moldova then?
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>>79181192
To all you gypsy piece of shit: I don't care about those parts of Erdély that are infected with you "people" but there are still territories with Hungarian majority and you fuckers should give them back.
Magyars and Gypsies in an """"""empire""""""
This will go about as well for you as it did in 1914-1918
>>79181883
>You see my friend there IS a census behind that map
W.H.E.R.E I.S I.T?
There isnt one.The only census done in Northern Transylvania in 1930 and found 2,395,153 total population,49% romanians, 38% hungarians.
> It doesn't matter how your people rewrite your own made up history.
yet you are the only one here posting only hugnarian made propaganda.
>Because you didn't shed your blood for this land, and because in the wars that went on throughout history we that means HUNGARIANS died and not sheepfucking romanians hiding within their cuckblocks in erdély.
Actually the working class was always made from romanians.Even your national King Matei CORVIN was half romanian.
>After your migration from albania we allowed you to settle thats all.
there is no recorded migration nor there exist any archaelogical,genetic,linguistical,written proofs.A pathetic attempt from 19th century to de-nationalize romanians ,by hungarians.
>>79182116
Never!
What are you going to do about it?
>>79182116
we will pack them up and send them to Buda.
>>79182315
Where is your proof about dacian-roman continuity? please refrain from using romanian sources.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vienna_Award
learn to google
This is like watching two street dogs lying at the side of the road and in competition who can sleep the longest. Someone just shovel them up into the roadkill truck so we can get on with civilisation please.
>>79182364
>Viteazul
>Vitéz
>having a Romani national hero with a Magyar word as a name
top cuck famalam
>>79182549
>dacian-roman continuity
A few tens of contemporany writtings, A few hundred daco-roman archaelogicalsites with continuous inhabitation from III to XII century,the attested fact that romanians are the highest in I2a2 proto-european haplogroup and sit exactly where it was formed, the main anthropological element of romanians being exactly the pontid-cromagnon recorded in Dacia Traiana,10% of our common lexicon being of thraco-dacian origin, hundreds of roman collonization words etc etc
But more importantly is the fact that hungarians have no sources.This is why all the encyclopedias today teach the daco-roman continuity which is a fact as clear as germans origin.
you roman bois are really likeable, does the rest of the world likes you as well as we do?
>>79182707
sweden would come by to suck them dry
>>79182747
thats his nickname, viteazul, means "brave".And the word comes from proto-slavic vitezĭ „hero” (Miklosich, Slaw. Elem., 17; Cihac, II, 459) .
>>79182943
Add the cultural fact that romanians popular clothes are almost identical to the dacian ones.
>>79182947
Hungarian girls from Transylvania like us!
I think we are good senpai
>>79182981
yeah right whatever that means. Sit outside a supermarket and be the pointless dosser you are. 20+ years of the internet and your culture is still like an 1800 jewish ghetto minus the skill of craftsman. lazy born bone idle.
>>79182943
>calling theories facts. Just google it you cuck the first word you will see is THEORY.The language doesnt matter as you stole your own vocabulary as well. And what was my first point
as to the qualifying evidences. YOU CANNOT USE ROMANIAN LIES.
>>79170640
>aluminium poles
>immediately envisioned Polish soldiers wrapped head to toe in tin foil
>>79183388
>The language doesnt matter as you stole your own vocabulary as well.
Proofless accusation.
>Just google it you cuck the first word you will see is THEORY
The german origin is also a theory.The basque origin too is a theory.The catalan one too is a theory.Gravity too is a theory.
Theories become facts when they are unanimously accepted by everyone.In our cause everyone except a few hungarian nationalists.
>>79183388
Oh and lexicons don't mean anything as our own people as well are recorded as a relative to the finnish stem in many well known lexicons and if you might not know we have nothing to do with the finnish language nor with their culture.
>>79183736
>Oh and lexicons don't mean anything as our own people as well are recorded as a relative to the finnish stem
lexicon = words from a language
so how can someone be "recorded" as a relative to someone?
madjars were bashkirs originally from central asia, read HUNGARIAN ACADEMY , and you are slavo-romanian-germans who were magyarised.This is why 99.5% of you are europeans in look and genetics.
>>79183583
>Proofless accusation
What is the origin of your word of yes again?
Except for the fact that it isn't. Seriously have you ever talked with a professor of higher education and not romanian? To wake you up NOBODY that means no one believes that outside of romania.Hell even the american professor at the university which I've attended said that it was bollocks lol.
>>79183360
what is ur problem, Jamal isn't home to cuck u?
>>79184055
>What is the origin of your word of yes again?
In romanian is "Da".So out of the tens of thousands words we have, 1 is slavic.We have 15.5% slavic words in our lexicon.
>Seriously have you ever talked with a professor of higher education and not romanian?
Yes.
>Hell even the american professor at the university which I've attended said that it was bollocks lol.
I do not care.Daco-roman is a fact.But its not only a fact because it is attested by a few hundreds facts, but its also a fact because there is no counter-argument against it.
>>79182707
Hi there Sven, did your wife's son teach you how to use a computer?
>>79184023
And no my clueless romanian friend we are far more ancient and far away in culture than any of the ones you have mentioned. If you would be open to the truth, to which you certainly aren't I could initiate you to the real origin of our people. But we are just going around in circles here so have a good day.
>>79184023
>and you are slavo-romanian-germans who were magyarised
Being hungarian is about the language and culture and not about genetics.
>>79184363
oh really, my slanty eyed yellow skined turanic non-european friend?The Hungarian Academy concluded that you were magyarised by the on-ogur magyars same as bulgarians were bulgarianised by the bulgar on-ogur tribe.
>>79184579
top kek
keep in mind that Romania is the center of I2, where the highest diversity of it occurs.I2 was the main genetic marker of Cucuteni-Tryptillian culture, a culture which let deep markings in romanian culture,which can be seen in ceramics and costume symbols.
"The high concentration of I2a1b-L621 in north-east Romania, Moldova and central Ukraine reminds of the maximum spread of the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture (4800-3000 BCE) before it was swallowed by the Indo-European Corded Ware culture. "
"The presence of I2a-L621 in Romania and Bulgaria could be attributed to the migration of the ancient Dacians and Thracians, who emerged as a mixture of of indigenous peoples and Indo-Europeans (in this case, essentially R1a-Z280) sometime between 3300 and 1500 BCE."
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savage bantz
>>79168648
Better yet, when will Romania annex Moldova?
>>79168648
wtf is that flag?
>>79181883
>>>79180862 (You)
>Yes my deluded friend we back up that you were here before all of the ancient peoples of europe and even better mixed with them and created the famous legacy of the roman empire.
>Thats why every castle in erdély is romanian made and every improvement within the last century were made by the romanians pertaining to erdély. fuckboy
Except that's not what we're claiming. On the other hand, you're claiming that Transylvania was empty, which is patently untrue, and that romanians emigrated en masse to Transylvania after you, which is not backed by sources.
All that is left for you is to scream "NOOOOOOOOO! TRIANON WAS THEFT! ROMANIAN LIES HUNGARIANS WERE 9999999% OF TRANSYLVaNIA! WHAT Do YOU MEAN WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 6 GORRILION MAGYARS? OBVIOUSLY GENOCIDE/IMMIGRATION/EMIGRATION"
When romania stops being the shittiest country in Europe
>>79185378
Portugal u dumfukk
>>79184579
What's going on with Armenia, are they true europeans or something?
>>79185453
probably when the German Caliphate will be declared
REMIMDER
""""romanians""" are from Albania originally
read this. http://www.imninalu.net/myths-Vlach.htm
>There is also not any toponym in Transylvania having Romanian etymology before the 13th century c.e., nor any originally Romanian name for that region is recorded ‒ actually, the present and historic denomination (Ardeal/Transylvania) has been taken after Hungarian (Erdély). Indeed, the Romanian term ʹArdealʹ has no meaning, but is an adaptation of the Old Magyar name Erdő-elve, that means "land beyond the forest", translated into Latin as "Transylvania".
>>79187131
reminder*
Touchscreen ruined the modern world
>Romgary
>>79187131
hahahaah
the same proofless website that has absolutely no source on any of its claims
that website was already owned by me in twcenter,historum and the apricity
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?430451-The-migration-of-vlachs-romanians
But lets take what you said again
1.Romania has 98 national costume,each differ by zone.The costume you posted is not even romanian or attested in Romania.Pic related are the romanian costumes from Olt.
2.>There is also not any toponym in Transylvania having Romanian etymology before the 13th century c.e., nor any originally Romanian name for that region is recorded
This is not an argument.Hungarians after the creation of Hungarian Kingdom, had full control over Transylvania administration and thus only they created toponyms in Transylvania.Same as arabs did in portugal,egypt(over 80%),, moors in Spain,, anglo-saxons on usa,spaniards in mexic etc
Also
>The Roman occupation of Dacia was bloody and relatively short-lasted if compared with other areas where Latin language did not prevail ‒ like Britain or Pannonia, lands where Romans ruled for more than three and half centuries, or like Judea, from which Romans even deported almost the whole of the original population.
The Roman presence in Dacia (106-271 c.e.) was characterized by frequent revolts of the local inhabitants, and the occupation did never achieve a complete control of the region since different Dacian tribes kept their independence in earthen fortifications that they built on mountain peaks, and others moved outside the imperial borders. Roman historians attest that the pugnacious Dacian people were hard to surrender and even women and children fought the Roman legions. In such a background it is honestly very difficult to imagine a process of assimilation of any kind. Far from adopting the invaders' language, the Dacian groups that were not subjected by them would have reverted any process of Romanization (in case that there was any) as soon as the Romans fled away from the country.
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>The Romanian word for city is oraş, whose Magyar origin (város) suggests that they began to dwell in urban centres only when they got in touch with the Hungarian realm ‒ namely, when the mediaeval Romanians, then known as Vlach, were offered asylum in Transylvania by the Hungarian monarchs when the Turks seized Walachia.
>>79187131
Reminder, Hungarians are from Mongolia! Pic related!
>>79187889
in determining th etnogenesis of a population the only toponyms that count are those of rivers.In Romania and Transylvania implicit, ALL hydronims toponyms are of dacian origin, inherited from vuglar-latin in romanian and in hungarian from romanian or through slavic intermediar from romanian.
>the present and historic denomination (Ardeal/Transylvania) has been taken after Hungarian (Erdély).
when the khazars invaded Transylvania they only heard the romanian form,
A letter from around 960 from the Khazar king Joseph to Chasdai ibn Shaprut, the Rabbi of Córdoba, mentions the Ardil country (Eretz Ardil), rich in gold and silver.[7][8][9] Today, in Hebrew, Ardeal is written identically: ארדיל. This theory therefore suggests that Ardi(a)l was the primary form of the name and thus "Ardeal" is an original Romanian toponym
Also The -eal in the romanian Ardeal shows that it wasnt taken from magyar language -ely since -ely becomes ei in romanian.
>>79187889
Nice damage control. Read it first you lazy gypsynigger, it's full of proofs
>>79187131
nobody cares
>romanians
>bulgarians
>hungarians
literally all the same in the eyes of any countries that matter
>>79188039
The Roman occupation officially enfed in 271 but they kept garrisons and still controlled these lands. Evidence: the capital Sarmizegetusa Regia was inhabitted till the 9th century, numerous roman archeological items found etc. !
You can't make this shit up!
Hungarians are alright.
>>79188299
I have already read and owned that copy pasta on multiple forums.Do not start crying.
Proofless words.You dont have 1 fact there.You might as well post Snow fairy tale.
You are using a proofless debunked outdated politically made pseudo-theory based on "argumentum ex silentio" logical fallacy of Robert Roesler from "Romänische Studien. Untersuchungen zur alteren Geschichte Rümäniens".Not only this book not exists anymore(1871 in Leipzig was the first and last published) and is not supported by anyone today, except hungarian nationalists,but it was already thoroughly debunked even on that time 1888 by A.D.Xenopol "Teoria lui Röesler. Studiu asupra staruin?ei românilor din Dacia Traiana" 1884.
-There is no archaelogical evidence that former rural population shifted to the countryside to abandon the cities.
-There are no writtings or archaelogical evidence of sudden increase of population in Balkans after Aurelian retreat.
-There is no recorded writting or archaelogical proof of any migration.
-The documentation of colonization of Vlachs In Transylvania is non-existent,especially for such a large populace. Of the 217 documents pertaining to Transylvania during the reign of Ladislaus IV, none of them mention this colonization.Comparatively, we have 19 documents referring to the 25 year long colonization in Transylvania of the Teutonic Knights, an event which happened 50 years before the “Vlach colonization.” In the 13th century there is only one mention of Vlachs being settled on the domains of nobles in Transylvania, but the source does not mention whether the Vlachs came from outside of Transylvania or if they were taken from the Transylvanian foothills.At the supposed site of relocation of these colonists, that being Moesia, of which only a small upper part was renamed as Dacia.
>>79188084
Thats a kun - or Cuman - we invited them to settle in the 13. Century.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumans
>>79188659
In this region, there is no recording of any drastic increase of population, something which would definitely have resulted from such an influx of refugees. When the Goths sought refuge in the Eastern Roman Empire to escape the Huns, their presence is clearly attestable in cesspits, cemeteries, and archaeological relics. The relocated Dacian colonists however, did not leave any impression at all. There is no sudden growth in cemeteries, nor in cremation urns discovered. There is no expansion of cities and towns in the 3rd century, and no new towns are created. This leads to one of two conclusions: Either the newly relocated colonists made sure to only cremate themselves and simply throw away their ashes into the wind, consume as little as possible, smash every pot they had, and be homeless for the rest of their existence; or, such a massive relocation never happened. [22]
>>79188039
Romans conquered the Dacians, Dacians died out before the Romans did. Dacian is dead as a language. There's hardly anything on the language. You're fucking retarded Hungary.
>>79188659
>pseudo
>Another interesting fact concerns the very name of the capital city of Romania: Bucureşti, a word that is similar to the Albanian term "bukurisht", having the same meaning.
Nice try crypto-albanian.
>>79188039
>The Roman occupation of Dacia was bloody and relatively short-lasted if compared with other areas where Latin language did not prevail ‒ like Britain or Pannonia, lands where Romans ruled for more than three and half centuries, or like Judea, from which Romans even deported almost the whole of the original population.
Allthough the roman occupation lasted just around 300 years, Dacia was the only Roman province to have a state-sponsored colonization program. [51] Even more, latin was lingua franca there already for a few hundred years before and after.But archaelogical proofs already proved this without a shadow of doubt.
But first lets own the other statements
>The Roman presence in Dacia (106-271 c.e.) was characterized by frequent revolts of the local inhabitants, and the occupation did never achieve a complete control of the region since different Dacian tribes kept their independence in earthen fortifications that they built on mountain peaks, and others moved outside the imperial borders. Roman historians attest that the pugnacious Dacian people were hard to surrender and even women and children fought the Roman legions. In such a background it is honestly very difficult to imagine a process of assimilation of any kind. Far from adopting the invaders' language, the Dacian groups that were not subjected by them would have reverted any process of Romanization (in case that there was any) as soon as the Romans fled away from the country.
>The Romanian word for city is oraş, whose Magyar origin (város) suggests that they began to dwell in urban centres only when they got in touch with the Hungarian realm
fantasy tier.How does the etymology of the word suggest anything like this?
>then known as Vlach, were offered asylum in Transylvania by the Hungarian monarchs when the Turks seized Walachia.
Yet no recordings from either hungarians or turks show this migration.Yet Wlalchia was under house of peace with ottomans while Hungary was pashalak
>>79188834
Read it again
>>79188957
The albanian geographic connection is a 19th century myth.It was already linguistically debunked by world linguists.
And Bucuresti comes from the founder of it,son of Gebel-ul Himme from tribe Beni-Kureis.
>>79189153
I did, but Romanians are the third most genetically related to Romans , and is the third closest language to Latin just behind Italian and Sardinian. The Dacians died out relatively earlier so you had Roman influence in that region after they were gone for centuries and centuries after. I'd say the daco-Roman mix is like 20 daco/80roman
>>79169751
>almost the same gypsy population
>one is regarded gypsy, the other based
>memes
/pol/ in a nutshell
>>79189487
The dacians did not die out, a 19th century myth.In fact how could romans, even if they wanted, exterminate a population numbering a few milions total?And why would they do it when never a genocide like this happened?Dacians were the most respected by romans, they ahve the biggest statues in Rome.But I will soon enough genetic and archaelogical facts to close this hungarian charade.Brb 1minute.
>>79189655
while im searching in 1-2minutes for the archaelgic facts, see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58lYKGCfKxc
in 19th century, hugnarians tried to remove from books every refference of dacians, and where books called vlachs dacians they replaced with hungarian and added fake refferences.
>>79178820
>poland
>white
118 recorded archaelogical sites of dacians After Aurelia Retreat to XII century:
http://cronica.cimec.ro/ -> Select Epoca "Dacii Liberi" (http://cronica.cimec.ro/epoca.asp?nr=1&epoca=6&strEpoca=Dacii%20liberi)
Even more, archaelogical findings that latin continued to be speaken continuosly from III to XI in Romania
Text is to long I pasted it here:
http://pastebin.com/QyyzwBj9
>>79190113
Writtings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Dacians
The Free Dacians, together with the Roman-Dacians later developed into the Romanian people of nowadays.
-Eusebius of Caesarea Historia Ecclesiae (ca. 320)
-Constantine I the Great (336) assumed the victory title of Dacicus Maximus("Grand Dacian").Since such victory-titles always indicated peoples defeated, not geographical regions, the repeated use of Dacicus Maximus implies the existence of ethnic Dacians outside the Roman province in sufficient numbers to warrant major military operations into the early 4th century.
-Ammianus Marcellinus Res Gestae (ca. 395)
-Eutropius Historiae Romanae Breviarium (ca. 360)
-Sextus Aurelius Victor De Caesaribus (361)
-Anonymous Historia Augusta (ca. 400)
- For the year 381, the Byzantine chronicler Zosimus records an invasion over the Danube by a barbarian coalition of Huns, Scirii and what he terms Karpodakai, or Carpo-Dacians.(Zosimus Historia Nova (ca. 500)
-Jordanes Getica (ca. 550)
-Alfred the Great's translation of the Historiae Adversus Paganos—a fifth-century work by Orosius "referred to "the Dacians, who were formerly Goths" and lived "east of the Moravians and the "Vistula country".
-An ancient letter from one Emmerich of Elwangen to Grimaldus, abbot of St. Gall, written about 860 mention Vlachs, under the name of Dacians, living north of Danube together with Germans, Sarmatians, and Alans.
-An entry in the so-called Suidas lexicon drawnup at some point during the second half of the tenth century, claims that Dacians were now called Pechenegs.This can only mean that the Pechenegs were ruling over the local population,dacians.
5minutes brb while I find the proof of the romanised dacians from III to XII
>>79189648
>send their worst to other countries
>mock other countries with their romani gypsy problem
On http://cronica.cimec.ro/ there are recorded more than 100 daco-roman sites just in sec. VII - XI(migration epoque), all described en-detail and most in english and highly detailed pictures and measurements.
Lets open some
Suceagu (Cluj) Early Roman (1st - 3rd cent.); Early Migrations Period (3rd - 6th cent.)
http://cronica.cimec.ro/detail.asp?k=635
Rural unfortified settlement; Cercetari sistematice si de salvare; 1989, 1991-1992. Dwelling were dug both from surface and deep.Archaelogically, no discontinuation of population was found.A workshop for bone processing was found from IV century.The archaelogical amterial was extremly rich:ceramics,lamps,fibulae,iron objects,grinders,tuff,terra sigillata, an inscription fragment from the Roman era,gray polished ceramic(many intact plates),iron objects,bone artefacts ornamnted,spindles,sandstone,an iron fibula,pottery worked by hand of dacian origin from IV-V,rough paste ceramics.2 ovens for ceramic burning,dated based on ceramics on III-IV.
Vladiceasca (Ilfov) (end of V - start of VI)Late Migrations Period (VII - XIth cent.)
http://cronica.cimec.ro/detail.asp?k=301
Ill just quote the V-VI period
The typology of the ceramics makes us to frame, for the moment, this complexes at the end of V and the first half of VI.Excavations from Vladiceasca releaved yet again another settlement of the romanised population in an area of Vlasiei Plain, less explored so far.
>>79190788
Berghin (Alba) Late Migrations Period (7th - 11th cent.)
http://cronica.cimec.ro/detail.asp?k=59
In conclusion, this years excavations have revealed new testimonies regarding the romanisation process of the autochtonous dacians in the Roman rule in Dacia and in the process of the romanian population formation(VII-VIII)
And a very interesting and important archaelogical site :
Sighisoara Late Medieval; Prehistory;
ttp://cronica.cimec.ro/detail.asp?k=7
This city area is inahbited, with minor intrerruptions, for about 4000 years, being archaelogical certified a settlement from bronze age, 2 dacian settlements from iron age,a roman fort for road guarding, a daco-roman settlement and their descendents.
>>79190826
The following locations show continuous Daco-Roman habitation from the 3rd to the 5th century [75]
Mines: Baia de Cris, Tincova, Ruda, Alun, Hunedoara, Baita Cib, Fizes, Cabesti, Videim, Albac, Bistrita de Sus, Vidra, Cimpeni Lupsa, Salciua, Podeni, Potaissa, Baisoara, Valea Ierii.
Monetary thesauri: Bicasi, Pilu, Carei, Copalnic, Soimuseni, Doba Mica, Simieu Silvaniei, Porolissum, Babiu, Gurani, Sintna, Arad, Pecica, Cenad, Horia, Biled, Carani, Jimbova, Checea, Unip, Faget, Debra, Deva, Huedoara, Sepes, Ungureni, Apulum, Seica Mica, Seica Mare, Sura Mare, Sibiu, Ocna Sibiului Soars, Lasiea
Daco-Roman and Roman settlements: Taga, Soporu, Band, Lechinta, Ludus, Cipau, Brateiu, Seica Mica, Biertan, Sighisoara, Sinpaul, Morada, Ineu, Pilu, Biharia, Berca, Mediesu Aurit, Apa, Dej, Rascruci, Napoca, Baciu, Sebes, Hatg, Deva, Debra, Apulum, Gura Vaii, Cazanesti, Hateg, Faroia.
Major Cities and forts: Deva, Haţeg, Hunedoara, Sighişoara, Ulpia Traiana Sarmisegetuza, Bistriţa, Bicasi.
Bridges: Apulum
The cultural elements and styles of archaeological artefacts discovered over the period of the 3rd-5th centuries show a clear material and stylistic continuity, indicating continuous habitation by the same people. The cultural character of the findings remains the same until the 6th century, with the arrival of the Slavs. [76]
>>79190893
Ceramic manufacturing traditions continue from the pre-Roman to the Roman era continue both in Roman Dacia and unoccupied Dacia, and these traditions continue well into the fourth and fifth centuries. [77]
Cemeteries in Roman Dacia show cremation consistently across every necropolis, a pre-Roman Dacian tradition. Materials buried with cremated people are comparable both in Roman and in Free Dacia suggesting the native population did not suffer materially due to Roman occupation. [78]
Though there is a change from cremation to inhumation in the post-Roman period inhumation was an increasingly popular concept in the 3rd century. The rich ceramic remains in these necropoli are identical in technology to pre-Roman and Roman era tombs, including the presence of Roman amphorae and wheel-made, gravel-tempered, or hand-made pots. [79]
A noteworthy aspect of third to fifth century graves is the widespread distribution (from Transylvania to the Ukrainian border) and substantial number of objects of Roman manufacture, in excellent condition, which must be indicative of an active system of exchange. [80]
Archaeological surveys of the Banat region record numerous settlements, storage pits, pottery kilns, glass furnaces, metallurgical production sites, and coins (both as hoards and found on sites) [81] which indicate a continuation of both sedentary population and maintenance of Roman military and economic interests. [82]
During the 5th-7th centuries houses all over Romania are noted as having "vatra" ovens, being ovens made of clay and surrounded by stones. These ovens could not have belonged to the Slavs who had a different style of construction, and is noticeable in Dacian-occupied areas in Romania during the 1st-3rd century. Traditional Roman ovens were also discovered in the same area as these "vatra ovens." [87]
>>79190961
Archaeological surveys of the Banat region record numerous settlements, storage pits, pottery kilns, glass furnaces, metallurgical production sites, and coins (both as hoards and found on sites) [81] which indicate a continuation of both sedentary population and maintenance of Roman military and economic interests. [82]
Circulation of Roman coins grew both in Roman and Free Dacia in the 1st and 2nd centuries, declining in the third but then rising again since the 4th century [83] The extent and increase in coin circulation even after the Roman withdrawal from Dacia and as far north as Transcarpathia is argued by some prominent archaeologists to have no other analogy in neighboring provinces, nor in any other barbarian territory [84]
Some cities show the absence of Dacian names completely from inscriptions but which show Dacian burial rituals, indicating that Dacians near urban centers were rapidly Romanized, adopting Roman names but maintaining their old traditions. [85]
Archaeological digs throughout Transylvania and Romania have discovered many clay pots dating from the IV, V, VI, and VII centuries. What makes these pots particularly interesting is that they were made using the potter's wheel, an invention which no migratory people had when the came through Romania. The only population which could have produced these pots is one which had sufficient contact with the Roman and Hellenic world to adopt this style of making pots. We know the Slavs did not adopt this style until much later because pots made without the use of the potter's wheel are also found throughout Romania during this time. [22]
You tried hungary
>>79191056
The thousands of old Roman coins dating from the IV, V and VI centuries found on Romania are peculiar because they are a) made of bronze and b) show the portrait of contemporary emperors on them. The first part affirms that these coins were not valuable, meaning that they were common currency. There is no way such coins could have found their way into Romania through tribute or trade between the Romans and barbarians because the Goths, Avars, Huns, and others would only accept gold coins and items as tribute, as bronze coins had little value or use to them. The material indicates that these coins were used as a common bartering currency for low-value items (like food or iron) by a poor populace. Their number, and the diverse locations that they've been found in, indicates that this populace was large, and spread all over the country. The second aspect reflects the historical fact that there was significant communication between this proto-Romanian populace and the Roman Empire, enough to allow for the accurate re-minting of coins. Even if the coins were imported by the proto-Romanians from the Romans, it still is evidence of significant contact between the Romans and the Romanians North of the Danube. [22]
A Daco-Roman necropolis was discovered in Sibiu belonging to the local population, which had, among the objects buried with the deceased, ceramic objects of Roman cultural origin, coins from the time of Antonius Pius (138-161) and Septimius Sever (193-211) and vases made in the Dacian style. [22] [86]
Dear bozgor are you still here?So i do not waste my time.
>>79187131
>Aredeal
>No romanian meaning
>Not literally Has-hill
>>79188957
Yeah, we're Albanians alright!
Wow I didn't expect you idiots to bite the bait as hard as you did
>>79194175
My pleasure is to put hungarians in their place.
>>79194175
>>79194308
You're alright Romania, you're alright.
The origin of the holy Romanians:
As the legend says, there were two brothers: Romulus and Remus. But through the history, people have forgotten the third brother Romanius.
Romulus and Remus got fed by the female wolf, but they didn't left space for Romanius. Romanius was hungry, so he found a male wolf and started to suck on it's cock. There comes the name dako-roman (dako means cue, which refers to penis). After Romulus killed Remus, to avoid death he went to Wallachia, where he met a wagon of gypsyes. He joined their family and became their leader.
Source: Gesta Romanium
>pic related, ancient warrior of the army of The Romanian Empire
>>79170790
j-j-jews did this
gypies dindu nuffin
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians
Explain this without lies.
>>79168648
right after Sportugal is formed
>>79196073
1.Your map is proofless map straight from hungarian propaganda books.Even now, today we know that romance langauges cannot appear below Jirecek line.
2.Romanian language is distinct from aromanian.
3.Romanian/Aromanian used to develop in the same group, pic related, untill slavs came and split them each side of the Danube.
4.Even more all the writtings from evul medium call aromanians dacian migrators from North of Danube.
That aromanians are the archaic romanians is an old roesler myth.
>it's a "hungary and romania are at each others' throats" thread
>>79196643
pic related
>>79168648
>>79174726
>Romgary
>Hungmania
>Not Hungarnia
>>79196832
Banat is the center of romanization, where the roman legions of Trajan were settled.Here are found most archaelogical sites.
German historian Leopold von Ranke: “Dacia was organized into a Roman province. The indigenous Romanians give the name, even today, of “The path of Trajan” to the road which leads into Transylvania, and call Turnu Rosu “The Roman gate”. They are what remains of Trajan’s colonists brought into Dacia.” [53]
>>79196073
>>79196643
*grabs kurtos kalac*
fuck off back to the kazakh steppes you fucking pseudo-asians
>>79168648
gary röms it!
>>79194890
lol I wrote it on my phone
good to see it again :^)
i wanted to look it up to copy because i deleted my own
>>79183147
>Oil painting by Miklos Barabas
You own people can't paint?
:^)
>>79170543
well fuck, back to the drawing board
>>79201432
make a tank from job listings
>>79174658
>>79174568
>>79177368
It'd just be called Portugal.
>>79201432
>>79201701
Are you sure?
