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Okay /pol/, it's ww2 time, Hitlers giving you full power to choose the course of the third reich, what do you do to not fail like he did?
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Don't trust Italy.
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>>79165442
hahaha
they broke our pact and started the war early before we could prepare
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>>79165511
I don't think Italy could have ever prepared senpai
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>>79165377
>Do not declare war on America
>Try to persuade the Japanese to push into Siberia
>Start mass-production of the Sturmgewehr earlier
>Give anti-tank weaponry and send military advisers to the Romanians and Hungarians so that they stand a chance against the Russians
>Forget the battle of Britain and instead use those planes against Russian cities
>Avoid Stalingrad and push straight to Moscow
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>>79165511
Mussolini was in power from 1922, you invaded Abyssinia in 1935. You had years longer to prepare than Greece, and outnumbered them 6:1. You still needed the Germans to bail you out.
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>>79166174
Interesting, Depending how early in the war maybe you won't have to worry about lots of pesky t34s eh :^]
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Dont't do Battle of Britain, Invade Russia as soon as July 1940
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>>79165377
I would of told the Austrian hick to learn some fucking english and not declare war on anyone without the agreement from Britain.

If Britain and Germany were allied they would of destroyed the communists easily.
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>>79167100
would Britain have even been ok with attacking Russia tho?
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>>79167100
The Germans attempted to make peace with the Brits multiple times.

>>79167256
Churchill himself was the mastermind behind Operation Unthinkable
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>>79167256
>>79167293
Yeah I know they did but then they invaded poland. They should of built a tight knit relationship with Britain while encouraging military spending.

If he waited for Russia to start invading eastern Europe there would of been a chance of Britain siding with Germany.

Who knows though by that time Russia could of been to strong. I think one of the reasons Germany started their war campaign first was because of Russia's extensive military build up.
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>>79166174
this anon is correct

based Italian
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>>79167473
>if everyone helped him things would have worked out in the end

Nigger.
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>>79167473
now it hitler was still the Jew killer, do you think Britain still woulda helped them fight the Bolsheviks, the whole "racism and anti Semite good goy my six million" was part of he Nazi regime
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>>79167823
Jesus Christ I apologize for my horrendous spelling
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>>79166174
Why would Japan push toward siberia when they have a crying hunger for oil?
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>>79168028
There's oil in Siberia
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>>79168184
You couldn't get oil from Siberia back then.
Texas was the oil capital of the world.
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>>79165377

>broker some kind of deal with Britain and the USA
>guarantee the passage of Jews to Palestine, thus negating the whole 6 bajillions
>use the whole post-1932 period to frame communism as the true enemy of the West
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>>79165377
Don't assume the russians are defeated because you meet no resistance in the summer of 42 and don't split the forces to the caucus and stalingrad.
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>>79165377
DO NOT FUCKING HALT AT DUNKIRK AND DO NOT FUCKING HELP THE ITALOTARDS ON THE BALKAN.

gg wp easy
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>>79165377
The Axis' powers main failing was in communication and cooperation.

Assuming the invasion of Poland and the war are inevitable:
>The Wehrmacht is going to carry this shit. >Mussolini, your army being dogshit is Europe's worst kept secret; Move with the Wehrmacht and support them, don't strike out on your own.
>Keep the Liftwaffe and Kriegsmarine back in a defensive role to prevent foreign intervention- if you try to invade England, they will literally never recover.
>Germany has the best soldiers, armor, and military minds in the world right now; supply Axis-friendly countries with arms and officers to act as buffer states against the soviets
>Japan, get your shit together; your naval doctrine is fucked and you're not playing with the team
>Getting your land invasion fucked by the soviets doesn't mean pull back and abandon your land strategy, it means build better tanks
>Pearl Harbor is literally the worst plan possible; consolidate your hold of Manchuria and any islands you can take without aggroing the US, and prepare to flank the Soviets; if you can split the Russian army, they're going to collapse within weeks
>get your fucking winter boots ready germany for the love of god
>people can't survive on rice alone japan for the love of god
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>>79165377
Keep all the smart Jews, build nuclear weapons.
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Don't help mussolini with greece and attack russia earlier so they can't mount up a defense, which would defeat russia.

Then just fortify the coast and try a peace treaty with the allies if one last attack fails
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>>79168792
best I've heard so far
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Kick out the Jews from Germany and that's it.

What they do in other countries is not my problem.
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>>79165377

Delay operation Barbarossa, ask for Japan to invade Siberia and start the operation into Russia after that invasion is underway.

Also don't execute the native Poles and Ukranians when moving into the region, the partisans only started forming when they realised the Nazis were the same as the soviets.
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The suez canal
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>>79165377
Ally with soviets and remove kebab
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>>79169357
>Nazi
>Ally with Bolshevik
look m8 be realistic
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>>79165377
Easy.
>Don't attack URSS
>Send a message to the nips telling them to ABSOLUTELY NOT ATTACK USA IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

That's it.
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>>79169357
retard
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Adopt streamlined, simple, production. Go into full war mode economy early. Keep the UK, and by that the USA and the Empire, out of the war. Make excellent use of locals with grievances against the Soviets, instead of putting them in camps.

Production was the biggest thing, however. Equipment should have been simplified, standardised and put into service at a steady rate. There was simply no use for heavy tanks. The Germans used eight different tank destroyers throughout the war. They had something like 120 different models of aircraft. Instead of producing more of the already effective field guns, they produced larger, more complex ones at a lower rate.

Germany was stuffed regardless, but it shows you how stupid they were that they thought pursuing things like the Maus was a good use of their time as their armies froze.
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The Germans couldn't do anything to win the war, the United Kingdom held a massive strategical advantage over them and even had the Americans and Soviets not gotten involved it would have ended in the slow painful death of Germany as the Brits bombed them into poverty and destitution.
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What would be the conditions of the peace treaty after The Axis won?
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>>79169700
I agree, while they did make some amazing machinery, they went too far into it way too late
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>>79166174

Potato-boy has the plan.
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>>79169643
Shitskin
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>>79165377
I would form the EU and win through political maneuvers and unify through economic strength enforced by our military might

Then take over middle east and establish the petro-euro dollar
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>>79165377
I would use photoshop instead of ms. paint. Hitler would get the message.
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>>79170773
how you gonna get France and England to join you while you call for the extermination of Jews, goy?
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>>79171275
Send the merchants to France and England
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>>79171371
oy vey! we can help you with our banks and loans! are you so quick to shun us you anti Semite? bad goy!
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>>79165377
Don't start the war. Let USSR jump the gun and become the main antagonist.
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>>79165377

Completely destroy russian oilfields.
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>>79171371
>what's left of my sides this morning are now gone
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>>79166174
>Do not declare war on America
But America would have jumped in anyway
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>>79165377
>Hitler gives you full power
>implying you wouldn't just use that power to party and fuck frauleins
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>>79172932
This
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>>79172148
This, finish Wunderwaffen and annihilate their cities from afar
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>Wait for Czech to capitulate politically, no show of force
>This maintains English trust, greatest ally
>Give Japan most of the planes, send Luftwaffe generals and experts/Goreing over there
>They invade and occupy Komchatka, air raid and destabilize eastern Russia so it splits their troops
>Occupy Danzig and other important straits/ports, as show of restraint I pull all troops out except defensive
>Send Ribbentrop to leage of nations, make the case for abused Germans in Poland, need for Danzig
>Peace from Brits
>Proceed to invade Russia
>Split from East fighting Japan, Tank campaign to Ural, take out patroleum and tank production, convert to Nazi interests
>Turn my tank army and to Moscow, spearhead into Belarus with Italian tanks and soldiers as a mission to "prevent soviet agression and save the budding countries of Eastern Europe to stabilize all of Europe)
>England appreciates this moderate move, helps us fight Russia
>Take half of Russia, Japan takes some of the East
>After a few years, go to war with Japan and convince US to join
>Take all of Russia
>Occupy Eastern Europe, Soviet bloc 2.0 now becomes Nazi bloc

What do you guys think?
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>stop all plans for the mass killing of the jews
>place all jews at the front lines
>send them to a soon to be bombed location
even if I loose the war, I cant be charged with genocide :^)
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>>79166698
> said no history book ever

Jesus, you Anglophones have literally everything to read, why are you so historically illiterate?
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>>79173283
To clarify when I said Occupy Danzig of course I'm referring to the original intent of Poland
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>>79165377
Don't let the British escape when they were cornered. Keep your treaty with Russia until you have all of Europe (including GB). Keep the Japs from attacking the US, and use jets on bombers instead of fighters.
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>>79173283
I like it, especially the backstabbing the chinks part, good play lad
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>>79165377
Don't fuck over our ally China. Rail against Japan for invading China earning international brownie points. Not overheat our economy. Keep working with Poland and other eastern European countries as a buffer against Soviet Union. Not invade Poland.
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>>79172902
Which is why you dont break your alliance with China for Japan in the first place.
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>>79168792
Japan couldn't go for Indonesia without taking the Philippines and it couldn't attack the Philippines without declaring war on the US, so they either went full war without Pearl Harbor (i.e. no desire for revenge but the whole fleet intact) or they did as they historically did.
Said this, Japan had no real chance to win the war, they could prolonge it perhaps.
As for Hitler:
> scrap that shitty Plan Z and produce as many Uboat as you can
> invest more into sub tech (Schnorckel and other stuff) and apply it much before
> full submarine war against the UK
> take Leningrad as soon as possible since it allows to supply the whole Army Group North
>better winter clothes
> was it ever possible to take Moscow in 1941? I doubt so
> don't divide Fall Blau into two separate operations and generally avoid Stalingrad
> don't fucking try to exterminate all Slavs and implement a cooperation policy
> implement a fucking war economy in 1941 not 1944 and rationalise production programs (Germans were far from being efficient actually)

By doing this, Germany could at least hope to prolonge the war by a year or more perhaps
As for "winning", the only way was by defeating Russia, good luck.
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>>79165377
>stop research on super heavy tank and focus on upgrading the panthers
>found more into the jet plane project
>found money into long range bombers
>dont found the meme v1 and v2 project , v2 project must be developped only as anti-air missile and for nuclear delivery later
>help italy reform its millitary
>when all this is done delcare war in 1942
>win battle of britain thanks to jet technology
>long range bombing Moscow escorted with jet planes or nuke it
>tell japan to not do pearl harbor and push into siberia with panthers and jets we send them
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>>79174127
The V2 anti-air you imply wasn't the Wasserfall?
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>>79174263
yes thats what i meant , bassicly push research toward anti-air missiles and icbm
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>>79165377
Gas the kikes
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>>79174127
Y E S
E
S

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the whole super heavy and heavy tanks was stupid as fuck
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>>79174590
the phanters could have been easly upgraded to have the 88's and would have been horrible for allies to face , the tigers while fearsone didnt have the angled armor that the panther offered
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is it true or just a meme hitler refused to use the nuke?
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>>79165377
actually fucking listen to mussolini and focus my attention on the mediterranean and avoid retarded campaigns in the cold freezing tundra

pursuit migrational and economic ties with israel and try to flood them with as many jews as I can, making both moderat and extremist nazis happy. a mutual cooperation, the jewish question can be taken care of later

impeach hitler and his borguieoise praetorians, gather what's left of the strasserists and shift the natsoc movement to the left by turning back to it's core origins, absorb the SS and himmler's fuckfest into a state militia who's taking orders from the fuhrer and is not autonomous (like mussolini did when blackshirts were treatening his rule)

again, listen to fucking italy's suggestions more carefully

don't treat italy like a second class partner since it could backlash, let them know when I'm about to invade another country and avoid keeping too much secrets with them in order to not piss them off and led them into retarded balkan campaigns since they're overemotional individualistic fuckers

connect more politically with the soviet union, japan can fuck off since it's worthless

enslave the whole world and actually build a corporativist fascist federal one world government or die trying to pursuit victory this way
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>>79174906
they were making it but then lost to norwegian resistance the only heavy water factory they had
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>>79165377
Stop doing ANYTHING expansionist following the annexation of Czechoslovakia

Sponsor Nationalist movements across the globe!
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>>79175046
So norway ruined our chance at the greater german reich forever?

fucking crypto swedes
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>>79175444
thanks to you mostly they were sended equipement by the british SAS
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>>79175020
>Strasserists
>Ant-capitalist
>Class warfare
>Wanted to increase ties with Soviets

Commie Bolsheviks, all of them. Good thing those brothers were killed, their aims were anti-German. Even if Hitler was a "socialist" one of his best moves was flirting with the capitalists and industrialists who were responsible for transforming his country into a powerhouse, as well as not diffusing classes like the commies wanted.
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>>79175539
don't tell the UK police but I'm a pole :^)
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>>79175769
hitler wasn't anything other than and angry and pure man who tried to deal with buisnesses bigger than his mind. he wasn't born to be a statist.
the capitalists and industrialists, together with his "loyal" party friends were also responsible to bring their praised powerhouse to the ground when they felt threathened, leaving hitler to die alone in a cold bunker.
capitalists and industrialists has to be never trusted unless the're put down to the same leash the proletariat still wears.
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>>79175893
kek
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>don't sign Molotov-Ribbentrop
>wait for Soviet push into Poland and Finland
>rally rest of Europe against ruskies
>monsterdunk Stalin
>enjoy Lebensraum
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>>79176947
problem is that if you waited for stalin to push into europe the red army would probably have been like the 1945 ones and that wouldnt be easy to defeat at all
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>dont declare war on Poland immediately, it'll provide a nice buffer state against the soviets
>surprise the french (more than they already were) and purge their officer corps upon victory
>destroy the british forces at dunkirk
>focus luftwaffe efforts on military/RAF targets only, no civilian targets
>send an invasion fleet to take scotland via norway, create a two front situation.
>send a uboat wolfpack to the irish sea and cripple the belfast docks
>tell italy not to engage in major conflicts, instead use it troops to stomp out french resistance in south east france
>ask spain to do the same in west/south west france, they owe germany for guernica
>properly arm eastern european buffer states and focus on a defensive line while perfecting v2 and jet technology
>try to play on stalin's paranoia, incite another red army purge or even just straight up assassinate him
>when the time comes focus our efforts on ukraine and the caucasus, starve them of oil and grain.
>not get bogged down in stalingrad
>persuade japan not to attack pearl harbour, but siberia.
>maintain neutrality with usa
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>>79177100
dont forget also to attack the caucasus factories , those things are what made the russian able to make a shitton of t-34
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>>79177043
It would also have meant no lend-lease for Soviets. Also fighting on a single front with powerful allies would have given even 1945 Russia a pretty tough nut to crack.
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Delegate all military responsibilities to Von Manstien, then just sit back and try to learn as much from him as humanly possible.
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>>79177274
so bassicly operation unthinkable but with germany at full power ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable
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>>79174906
German nuclear scientists sabotaged some of the research, especially Heisenberg. It's one factor among several why we didn't get the nuke. But it was obvious, with all of the industrial and ressource capabilities which the USA had, the Reich could never win the war literally against all of the empires on the planet.

How to win the war? Ally with the USA, redpill them on the kikes and share the hegemonity of the planet.
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>>79165377
Put off the war for as long as possible, to build ships, tanks, planes, etc. 1945 would be ideal. Assuming it was impossible to wait, carry on the exact same way as history until Dunkirk, then crush the BEF and what's left of the French there with overwhelming air power and an armored drive into the Channel. With any luck, England is demoralized greatly. Commence bombing early warning radar stations and RAF airfields to prepare for Sea Lion. If it goes like history's Battle of Britain, it might be best not to invade England. Conduct an airborne invasion of Malta to control shipping in the Mediterranean and supply Afrika Korps. Meanwhile, in North Africa, devote more resources and men to Afrika Korps in the hopes that Rommel will drive the British out of Egypt and encourage dune coons to rise up against the British occupiers of Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Palestine, etc. Knowing Rommel, he can take the oil fields. Now, Stalin is surrounded by a big pincer, one in Europe and one in South West Asia. With success in North Africa and the Middle East, it might be possible to entice the Turks into joining, or at least allow uses of ports in the Black Sea, if only to flex muscle and keep Stalin from doing anything stupid. If and when Pearl Harbor happens, do not declare war on America. Do not declare war on the Soviet Union.
>>79173353
>had to use poison gas on barefoot Ethiopians
>invade Greece, get pushed back into Albania
>invade France
>5,000 men held up by 9 men in Casemate Pont du St. Louis
lol
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>>79165377

I wouldn't kill 6 million of our Jewish brothers and sisters in concentration camps, but instead they would serve in the war.
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>>79178202
this
put them infront line in all jewish units
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>>79165377
Invade iraq
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>>79165377
Stop the tizard mission, if america doesn't get the designs for compact british radar germany keeps its deathgrip on the Atlantic, cutting off american aid to europe.
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>>79172932
Lel this
>earn cushty officer rank by fighting in a few skirmishes in France or helping invade Norway or something easy
>welcomed back to the Reichland a hero
>Aryan bitches all over that dick
>final solution comes round, get a job in a "holiday" camp
>fuck frauleins by day, gas kikes by night
>the Reich starting to destabilise
>fucking abandon that shit before the Ruskies take Berlin
>flee to South America, fuck Latina booty and swerve the Nazi hunters
>fast forward to age 90, drift peacefully into the abyss of death before degenerate culture fully engulfs the West
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Don't invade Russia so early, wait until the end of winter so the entirety of the campaign will be during warm months.
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>>79166174
Hitler approves
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>>79178202
yes, the Jewish question. Maybe all Jew units would be ok, I was thinking of deporting them all to Palestine.
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>>79168758
This.

Depending on what year we take control, obliterate the British at Dunkirk. Also don't waste bombs on cities, stick to the airfields and factories.
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> get jewish overlords to sponsor you
> get jewish overlords to install communism in russia to weaken it
> attack russia
> get ass kicked
> get ass kicked by jewish overlords trying to prevent russia take whole europe

this plan works the best
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>>79177100
I like this one
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>>79165377
>Grand Campaign, /pol/ edition
What would I do?
>March south instead of west and east.
>Enslave Arabs and Dindus.
>Mine Africa
>Let African slaves loose into western Europe to rape and pillage.
>Have Arabs push towards Pakistan and India
>Consolidate Europe, take England and kill Dindus.
>Comsolidate Arabs and unite with Japan and flank the living fuck out of Russia.
>Make treaty with America, they get the Americas and Australia, we get the rest.
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