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Explain to me how the U.S. "lost" the War of 1812.
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Explain to me how the U.S. "lost" the War of 1812.

All they did was burn the White House. That doesn't count as a win. Even then they had the British do it. I mean sure their goal was to stop us from invading Canada, but our goal was to stop them from giving more land to Indians in the north. It was a stalemate at best.
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>>79139704
You invaded Canada

You were driven back and humiliated

You lost
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>>79139704
It was a clusterfuck. Only good thing we did was kill several British generals at the battle of New Orleans. But you burned our capital you won. But it gave us a popular Andrew Jackson in the end.
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>>79140649
Meant to reply to the leaf
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>>79139910
We burned your capital too. By your logic you lost.
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>>79139704
US started a war to get what it wanted. You didn't get it. You lost.

Same as every war you've been involved in post WW2
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>>79140989
Desert Storm was fucking perfect.
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>>79140649
On the plus side, we've been bros for 200 years since then

>>79140942
When did I mention burning your capital? Your invasion failed, it's really not about who burned what
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>>79140989
Ironically, we had gotten what we wanted before the declaration of war reached the UK. The war itself was basically caused by a series of fuck ups based on the shoddy logistics of the time. I'm sure your teachers gave you false information in school so that you Canadians can have something to be proud of other than being Britain's doormat, bug even the victories of the British in 1812 were won solely by British soldiers, not Canucks.
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>>79141293
Actually my history teacher just treated it as one theater of the Napoleonic Wars, guess it's the British perspective
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>>79140649
Andrew fucking Jackson.
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>>79141293
Everyone gets false information in school so they can feel good about their country though.

We had almost no lessons on 1812. You basically had to look it up yourself if you wanted to know what it was about.
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>>79141124
You're god damn right it was
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>>79141545
We barely covered it too.
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>>79141862
>>79141545
We don't care about you two morons, so our history books doesn't contain a single page about you except the burger bombing Japan or making profits by selling weapons in both world wars like crooked jews or how Columbus sucked at navigating the sea. We cover more about Mayans and Incas than you two.
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>>79142341
POO
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>>79139704
>canada burned te white house 200 years ago
>now they let their own country burn
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>>79141545
in my school they never taught it because history class was all ww2 stuff and even then it wasn't in depth
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>>79142341
who invite Pajeet?
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>>79142395
We didn't cover a lesson on that one either

>>79142592
You don't need to invite us, we are everywhere. There is no clay on Earth where you wouldn't find us.
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>>79142703
Find your shit maybe
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>>79142341
oi stop being mean
they are related to you
yeah they beat you up when you were small but you were being a faggot
be nice to your commonwealth family
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>>79142536
My history class was 50% Revolutionary War and 50% Holocaust, we didn't learn much about the actual war beyond D-Day.
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>>79139704
Can't really call it a loss or a win. It started with Americans wanting to take more from the Brits, Brits then saw it as an opportunity to possibly take back what was once theirs. Brits were repelled and shit on, Jackson defeated the only general to defeat Napoleon.

It was kind of a stalemate famalam. Point remains that we got to continue being a country, and eventually pushed all English and French influence out of the US. Andrew Jackson helped end a lot of issues with the Indians. He also took an orphaned Indian as his own son...
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>>79142703
>no lessons on poo
no wonder you can't shit right
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The Canadian perspective is pretty simple to understand. In the War of 1812, an American army invaded Canada and failed. It was therefore an unequivocal Canadian win. The fate of Michigan and controversies over impressment and so on and so forth are utterly irrelevant to the Canadian perspective for the simple reason that they don't involve Canada.

When country A invades country B and the result of the war is status quo ante bellum, country B is the winner.
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Canada/Britain got scared of a tornado and ran away.
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>>79142824
aren't you just a poo off of india's coast?

>>79142779
oh christ the holocaust and internment camp shit never ended
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>>79139704

I always thought the war was started over Britain cucking our sailors and after the war they stopped doing that. Not an American loss, especially considering our tactical victories at New Orleans and Baltimore, and newfound international recognition.
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>>79141174
What lol no we havn't don't pretend the US is our friend.
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>>79143283
>other white people aren't your friends, goyim.
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>>79143129
nope we poo in the loo
even the poorest Lankan poos in the loo
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>>79142744
>>79142824
US is not a commonwealth nation, you would have known that if you were not busy taking a refuge to Australia instead of going to a school.
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>>79143382
Considering how jewish dominated the US is and was not really appropriate m8.
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>>79143431
You need to live in your country to poo in loo, all you do is take refuge to other countries.
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>>79142744
Holy shitnickels rare
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>>79143514

>Jewish lobbies control the American legislature therefore Americans are the enemy of Britons who are also controlled by Jewish lobbies

No one's falling for your divide and conquer tactics, Chaim.
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>>79139704
America won because all 3 fronts by the British and her allies failed to achieve their objectives.

-Washington D.C?
Routed, but only after they burn the city. They attempted to destroy the military garrisons, but are repelled with ease.

-Ohio Valley region?
Routed, never having made any serious gains or objectives. Literal stalemate.

-New Orleans?
Motherfucking Andrew Jackson repels a force that is greater and better equipped than his by using pirates, Indians, and his own personal army to royally slaughter the British ala 1914-style.

So, while Leafs may gloat about burning some buildings or Brits may not care about a petty slap fight during the Napoleonic Wars, we won international prestige and opened ourselves up to becoming the superpower we are.
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>>79142824
SRI
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Canadians still try to pretend it was them, not British soldiers, that did anything. They cling to it because they know they exist at America's whim here in 2016.

Also, Britain completely humiliated itself in the final battle: The Battle of New Orleans.
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>if you burn your enemies White House down, they win

What do you have to say about that Canacucks?
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>>79142703
>There is no clay on Earth where you wouldn't find us.

Yes there is. The clay by a toilet.
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>>79143701
>declare an offensive war
>fight it entirely in your own territory
>successfully defend against foreign army... in an offensive war... that you started
>""""""america won"""""""
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>>79139704
The war of 1812 didn't mean shit. We had a little tiff wiith our British neighbors, and then we shook hands and made up. Nobody really gained shit from it. But whatever, if Canadians want to brag about how they burned down the White House (even though it was the British, but whatever) then so be it. It doesn't fucking matter.
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>>79143869

The War of 1812 was about as much of an offensive war as World War II.
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>>79142989
>It was therefore an unequivocal Canadian win.
That's funny considering Canada didn't even exist.
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>>79143834
Indians consider the whole world as a part of India, toilets are considered foreign soils or the embassy of witches.

>>79143954
Every was is like a world war for US, you have never fought someone of your own size alone, all you do is pick up fights with small nations. No wonder Vietnam beat the shit out of "Muh burger superpower"
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>>79142824
Pretty rare desu
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>>79143748
We were in the middle of fighting the Napoleonic wars, remember.
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>>79144123
>Every was is like a world war for US, you have never fought someone of your own size

Wrong. We tangled with the premier world superpower, Great Britain, twice. After 1945, no country matched our size and no country ever will. We can't fight a country that doesn't exist.

Meanwhile, the majority of your country's population doesn't have access to toilets and you have zero (0) aircraft carriers while bullying your weak neighbor Pakistan, the very crime you accused America of.

Kill yourself
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>>79143954
>be angry about some boundary disputes
>wait until britain is embroiled in a huge european war against napoleon
>"now's our chance!"
>get driven back almost immediately
>manage to successfully defend against a few scattered british colonial regiments that happened to be in the theatre at the time after your offensive war goes sour
>ends in status quo ante bellum
>""""""""american victory!"""""""""
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>>79139704

It was a 19th Century version of Capture the Flag gone wrong.
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>>79143431

Have you ever thought about how at the beach you are basically just swimming in indian shit?
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>>79142780
>Objective was to annex the Canadas
>Failed to achieve that objective
>calls that a stalemate

Yes, you were able to drive out foreign influence in your country but you didn't achieve your goals.
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>>79143869
>we didn't lose any territory in Vietnam
>we totally won guise
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>>79142533
10/10
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>>79144033
>Canada didn't even exist
>Despite the area being known as Upper and Lower Canada

Nice try but the people of Canada had considered themselves Canadians for a long time. They didn't consider themselves British or French anymore.
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>>79144564
Says the territory.
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>>79144356
>Britain impresses our sailors to fill their ships in the European war
>meanwhile they also fund a native american rebellion on our western border
>America sallies forth and destroys the British armed, equipped, and supplied indian confederation with minimal losses while repelling countless British invasions and inflicting humiliation and humilition
>British agree to stop impressing our sailors and we agree to return all the territory we captured
>Status quo ante bellum, IE American victory, ensues

>>79144564
>Canadian people existing = Canada exists

wrong.
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>>79143748
Considering your armies were beaten back by Canadian militiamen you lost to Canadians.
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>>79139704
All you need to know about the war of 1812 is this song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVC677-YmfM
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>>79144411
>Implying the war had one cause
>Implying it didn't have numerous causes, most of which were British aggression which stopped after the war
Overall we won even if we didn't take all our objectives
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>>79144732

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0

:^)
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>>79144644
This seems hard for you to understand so I'm going to try to spell it out in a way even you can grasp.

If you declare a war with the goal of acquiring territory, and that war ends without having acquired any territory, you lost that war.
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>>79144748
>that shifting of the goal posts
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>>79139704
no one claims that the USA lost except bongs and leaves trying to fuck with burgers. It was a stalemate
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>>79144350
>First we have 2 aircraft carriers, and are building 2 aircraft carrier of our own.
>Second Pakistan went on war with us, we never initiated any war after Independence.
>Third, Vietnam war wasn't even your war, it was between French and Veitnam but nah, you dragged yourself in and lost.
>Iraq never had WMDs but nah, you barged in to bring freedom and democracy there and look that got the world ISIS now.
>You funded terrorism in Pak and it blew your own buildings in 9/11
>You supported the Bangladeshi genocide committed by the Pakis and even tried to barge yourself to support Pakistan in 1971 war and you were chased back to Pacific by Nuclear armed USSR vessels.
Your whole nation is like a kid with a gun, no matter what model gun that is, the chances of you hurting yourself or someone else are the same.
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http://thewire.in/24099/open-defecation-ends-in-bangladesh-almost/

>bangladesh up to 99% poo in loo
>sri lanka all poo in loo
>india still have 536 million who won't poo in loo
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>>79144791
Jokes on you that's blocked in my country.
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>>79144613
Being a territory doesn't mean you're British

>>79144644
>The area is known as the Canadas
>The people consider themselves Canadians
>Canada and Canadians didn't exist!

American education
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>>79144835

Our goal wasn't the acquisition of enemy territory; our goal was to force the British to cease impressment of American sailors.

>>79144880
>America is one person
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>>79144835
We declared war to stop the British from violating our sovereignty, and the canadian territories were a threat to be neutralized, nothing more.
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>>79144944
hate speech is illegal in the British emprie so doesn't surprise
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>>79142341
Oh wow, you guys have books?

When are you getting toilets?
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>>79144748
France lost to the British too, so that makes you a loser living in a loser country
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>>79145024
Nah just shitty SME copyright stuff coming out of your country.
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>>79144973
Even if it's a British territory?
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>>79144857
Americans will do as much mental gymnastics as are necessary to turn any failure of theirs into a victory.

>>79145022
>>79144998
Just look at these retards.
>we never wanted territory anyways guys we were just pretending
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>>79145102
Yes, citizens of the Empire sure but not British.
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>>79139704
>british kidnap americans and make them serve on their ships
>british stop with that shit afterwards
sounds like a win
we got too ambitious when we thought we could take canada though
in the end, the canadians lost though. They could've been part of the union and gained all the benefits of american industry during the past two centuries
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>>79139704
>Explain to me how the U.S. "lost" the War of 1812.
Have you ever lost your car keys? Well, that's how it happens anon. That's how we lost that war.
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>>79144998
By "you" I am implying "your nation" if you are too dumb to understand it yourself

>>79145043
Somewhere near "When you cankucks will be able to put down a fire without importing Niggers from Africa"
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>>79144973

Canada is an independent nationstate that did not come into being until the next century following the war. Sorry lad but you can't take credit for the based Anglo's heroism.

>>79145158

President Madison didn't once mention your irrelevant wasteland when asking Congress to declare war on the British Empire.
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>>79144857
Its widely know that we went to war for more than just land. There are no goal posts to be moved.
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>>79145272
>he thinks even the majority of the American nation agrees with the actions of our government
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>>79145279
>The American invasions were beaten by troops raised and trained in the Canadas
>People that considered themselves Canadians
>In the Canadian territories
>But Canada and Canadians didn't exist
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>>79145281
Widely known by American historical revisionists you mean?
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>>79145332
I don't but you guys never accept the wrong doings committed by your own government (which you chose in the first place) either.
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>>79145407
>Sorbian people exist therefore Sorbia exists

Try again

>>79145469
>Americans never accept the wrongdoings committed by your own government

That's why America's most popular political figure is campaigning on a platform that includes "The Iraq War was a mistake". idiot
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>>79145423
>I, a fucking leaf living in the 21st century, know know more about the true intentions of the US than its leaders did at the time
http://edsitement.neh.gov/curriculum-unit/president-madisons-1812-war-message
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This is how it went down
>Be America, 1812
>Britfags kept on turning our sailors to British navy
>Britfags would routinely blockade us
>Britfags would have Native Americans attack us
>US had enough of this shit, declares war
>War goes on
>US wins some battles, Britain wins some battles
>Britain burns down capital. We still don't surrender
>Continue fighting.
>US thinks that a Canadian invasion would work.
>Fails
>Continue fighting
>Realize neither side is winning
>Call peace
>Britfags stop annoying US


That sums up the war. A conquest of Canada was NOT a main goal of the US. Compare it to a battle that the US failed to win, just like how Britain lost the battle of Lake Erie. The goal of the war was mainly to make Britain to stop bothering us like we weren't a country, and it worked, despite it being a tie. We ended up showing the world that we weren't willing to go submit to others will.
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>>79145554
What's point of doing that almost a decade after the actual war idiot?
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>>79139704
The white house got burned down bien for you to back diwn?
AT LEAST YOU DIDNT GET NUKED TWICE
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>>79145708

It doesn't fucking matter why we disagree with the past actions of our government, all that matters in this case is that we do because you contended that we don't.

fucking dravidians literally shitting up my board
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>delusional yanks itt think they won after they get their shit kicked in by militiamen and have their capital raised to the ground

haha nice war there burgers, couldnt even beat an empire fighting napoleon, and even then your only victories were against indians and a naval assault against entrenched positions. no wonder your country is so fucked if this is where your national anthem comes from... kek
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>>79145857
>his country lost a war to flightless birds
>thinks he can lecture other countries on their records
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>>79145691
And at the time, Canada wasn't even a fucking country. It was still considered British land. Also, a goal of Britain was to take control of part of the US, which also failed, so you can't really bring up the argument that since the US failed to invade Canada since Britain failed to invade the US.
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>>79145857
Its truly pathetic. They manage to negotiate a draw with a bunch of third stringers in a war that they themselves started, while the big boys were fighting the real fight in Europe.
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>>79145956
>while the big boys were fighting the real fight in Europe.

Reminder that America singlehandedly won both European world wars while Canada contributed like 2 artillery regiments
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>>79145956
>Leaf talking shit about war of 1812 to Amerifats
>Wasn't even a country in 1812, but just a British Colony that's only defense was British soldiers.
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>>79145956
Americans are completely deluded when it comes to their history. They have lost several wars but they convince themselves that they won everything. Its quite embarrassing really.
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>>79146124
>County was one of the most powerful in WW1
>Gets shit on by a bunch of Balkan fags
>Still talks shit
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>>79145800
Then at least elect people with some fucking sense in your parliament and government.
Your senate worries more about the people getting killed due to religious violence in India (Your congress is mad at us for denying its authorities to inspect communal violence, so it won't be able to interfere with the internal business of a "Sovereign" nation) than it is on people actually getting shot in America because of their color and sexual orientation.
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>>79146193
lmao what
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>>79145956
just ignore them leafbro. id be jealous of your nation too if i was a burgerblob whose national myths are based on backstabbing a nation at war only to get absolutely B T F O by the royal navy and canadian militiamen
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>>79142341
Your books are probably so old and shitty ww2 was a recent event when they were published
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>>79146206
>Then at least elect people with some fucking sense in your parliament and government.
>In your parliament
>Parliament

Sorry, but after that statement, your opinion in this thread no longer matters.
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>>79146044
>Joins late to both wars
>mops up the tired enemy combatants
>proceeds to strut around like they own the place.
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>>79146259
>Hungary
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>>79146339
again,

>lmao what
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>>79146316
Without US backing Britain, it would've fallen.
Canada didn't even try to help their home country during that time. And please tell me some great battles during those wars that Canada single handedly fought the enemy back in without help?
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>>79146373
>Austria-Hungary
Oh, i'm sorry. Forgot the other power too.
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>>79146298
Just because you don't follow the metric system and call your parliament a congress doesn't mean the rest of the world is obliged to do that too.

>>79146284
Unlike you, we actually care about our education system.
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>>79146481
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach
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>>79146316
You would get fucking squashed by us if we got into a modern war. And so what? Let the Europeans cut their throats. More money and power for us. Except France. We like the French.
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>>79146524
>a glorified subject state of austria is somehow "one of the most powerful countries of WW1"
try to pretend like you've read a book before
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>>79146570
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach
>Canada. Great Britain

Sorry. No other country involved.

Here's a better example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima
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>>79146541
A Parliament isn't the same thing as the Congress, Pajeet. You don't call a tuna a trout
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>>79146661
This country was still a powerful state compared to the shitskinned balkans. And they still lost. Maybe you need to read that history book?
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>>79146541
Then why are your universities universally shit?
You cheat almost as much as the chinks and yet still perform badly
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>>79139704
There's no one on this entire planet who gives a fuck about american "history" besides you fat shit
yanks. Keep that in mind.
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>>79146541
>We actually care about our education system
>Indians flee their country to go and study in USA and Europe.
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>>79146666
One commander being british, plus one unit of british marines, mean Canada did nothing in the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Scheldt Does that one suit you better?
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>>79146632
>we like the french

audibly gasped irl. for shame
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>>79146661
>A wealthy, large nation in Europe with a bigger population than Canada
>"irrelevant backwater"
>mfw leaves haven't been banned
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>>79146819
The rest of the world outside America doesn't exist, hypothetical frog-man
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>>79139910
We can go again, faggot. Bring your guns to . . . . oh, that's right; you CAN'T because you're a pussy and let your GOVERNMENT TAKE THEM FROM YOU.
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>>79146819
That's true my Frankish friend I'm actually a history major and I hate American history. I know it well but I prefer to study European history (aka) the only people who did anything interesting.
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>>79146859
Still doesn't count. Outside help. The British commander was probably the one doing all the work.
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>>79139704
Be grateful they burned it down. Otherwise you would have been stuck with a Pink House.
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>>79146855
Wtf is that?
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>>79147009
>Heh you're totally right Mr. Cool European! We yanks are fat and dumb haha! Please let me suck you off!

You disgusting cuck
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>>79147068
War is God
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>>79147009
>europe, p-please n-notice me!
haha
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>>79146481
The Commonwealth together secured Britain's safety after the battle of Britain, well before America joined the war
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>>79146193
Not Hungarian. Nice try denialfag.
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>>79146541
I'm sure, this girl probably feels pretty cared about! you can care all you want but it doesn't mean shit unless you actually do something.
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>>79139704
it was a white peace, europoors have hundreds of them in their histories.
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>>79147173
Wew lad
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>>79139704
it was more of a stalemate really. both sides for the most part accomplished their goals
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>>79146910
Shame on you for supporting an abusive Britain. You were enslaved and imprisioned by them, yet, you defend them. Just join us and we can punish them (again) together.
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>>79147210
I know wikipedia isn't 100% best source, but it holds a logical statement:
> constitutional union of the Austrian Empire and the Kingdom of Hungary
>Kingdom of Hungary
>Someone doesn't know their country's history
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>>79147169
Lol still. What is that?
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So... my ancestors were British and American in 1812. Then everyone moved to Canada in the 1840s and now I'm supposed to have an opinion on this British operation against the USA? I mean, okay the descendants of lots of the British troops settled in Canada, but really I think it's just embarrassing to bring it up like it's actually a big part of Canadian history other than in some kind of tangential, mark-it-with-an-asterisk kind of way.
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>>79141293
The pretenses for war the Britain acquiesced to were a pretense for a war that was really about the conquest of territory. The US wanted British Canadian lands, especially around the great lakes.
At first it seemed to all go well and then everything turned sour. And then rather hilariously much like the start, peace was declared before the battle of New Orleans. So everyone who died there did so in vain.

It's the last time in history the US would be antagonistic towards Britain. After that you became best of buds.
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>>79147508
HOLY SHIT! RARE!
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>>79139704
According to America, winning a war is creating a clusterfuck, getting out of the mess alive and saving face.
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it is kind of funny that the empire could fight a massive war against France AND still defend their colonies. i know the US wasn't much back then and fucked up a lot during the war but still would have expected more success
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>>79147178
>Give literally billions of dollars in material aid to Britain fully expecting to not be payed back soon or maybe even at all
>"lol dum yank New Zealand saved Britain!"
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>>79147460
Our spirit
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>>79147696
>"fight" massive war
>not just sit on their island and let the Germans and Russians die for them

It's like you don't understand British strategy
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>>79139910
>You invaded Canada
Canada was a part of the British Empire at the time. The same British Empire had been using impressment to force American sailors into service. The British were also instigating conflict in other ways as well. I think it's obvious who is to blame for America attack British territory.
>You were driven back and humiliated
As a territorial matter, the result was neutral. Impressment ended as did other British interference in US activities.
>You lost
It's not an outright win, but it was a net positive outcome for the US.
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>>79146206
>2012 sales of skin lightening creams in India alone totaled 258 tons[3] and the global market for skin lighteners is projected to reach US $19.8 billion by 2018 based on sales growth primarily in Asia, Africa and the Middle East
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Why is Everyone on /pol/ such a cuck for Britain?

The worst are the American users who call Britain dad like this cuck >>79140649
when Britain is literally Americas oldest adversary,

NEVER TRUST THE REDCOATS
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>>79143514
>hue hue UK don't like you XD

You're literally our little lapdog bitch, you dumb fuck. Everyone of those nukes you have are loaned to you by us.

http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/

Get cucked.
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>>79147850
We could, if the UK continues to anger their superiors, conquer them. We could carve out a nice ten states out of the bigger island.
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>>79147953
We already have conquered them. They lost all of their colonies because we TOLD THEM TO. What a pathetic floating turd of an island they are.
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>>79147953
Yeah cause we really need ten more states voting Democrat
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I love war of 1812 threads since nobody knows shit about them. America pretends it won. Canada pretends it was involved in any other way than a battleground for the American and British. If a British person remembers it happening they pretend they won too.

Nobody won.

Natives lost fucking hard though.
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>>79143283
Your country is literally number 2 from Canada for positive diplomatic relations with our country
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>>79147953
We're going to leave them alone, faggot. No globalism.
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>>79147722
About a quarter of their munitions and the material didn't just teleport to Britain. Americans think if not for their aid Germans would have walked on water
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>>79148169
>He doesn't want Oceania
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>>79147068

It's propaganda to make atheists feel good and make those who are unsure about atheism and evolution feel more secure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKYPqYMrec
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>>79148003
We have a very strong influence over them, yes. But influence is not true power.

All that matter is the World Map. When British children are taught basic geography in their grammar schools, the need to see the British isles as American.
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The war ended in a state of Status Quo Ante Bellum.

Nobody lost or won,I know it can be hard to understand but not all conflicts are win-lose sign treaty give up clay deals mane.
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>>79147007
We have lots of guns up here. I'm not sure why you think our government has taken them
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>>79148311
>But influence is not true power.

See: >>79147926


>All of their nukes are loaned to them by us
>We didn't even disclose to them how they are made
>They government doesn't even know how in the fuck they are manufactured in 2016
>We take them away
>We threaten to invade
>They do whatever in the fuck we want since they are no longer within the EU
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Moral victory, your precious White House was burnt down, it was just telling you to not fuck with us again which you duly did
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>>79148652
>British antagonism starts the war, British offensives ultimately repelled and Britain stops harassing us
>"heh mate yeh got fookin wrecked"
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>>79148527
True power is controlling the future generation of Britains by making it clear and known their identities---American. The best way to accomplish that is to brainwash them at an early age, so that it remains in their spirit, which is then passed down to future generations. In other words, we need them as states.
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>>79139704
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>>79148806
Eww
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>>79148775
They are an overcrowded island filled with miserable leftists and chavs. They have little manufacturing base and even less natural resources. Why in the fuck do we need them as a state outside of taxation in order for Obama to throw a few more cocaine parties?
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>>79147850
because they still want to believe anon

millions still believe in the empire and long for its return

you have kept our throne warm for far too long
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I think you're probably right, it would be a draw. But that's all we needed, it was fucking crunch time on the continent, we were invading france on land for the first time since the very start of that 26 year war and we were basically funding the whole of germany, austria and russia while they pushed in the east.
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>>79147953
>can't conquer vietnam
>can't conquer iraq
>can't conquer afgan
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>>79139704
You attacked Canada. You lost. That is it. Now go cry in a corner, you pathetic loser.
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>>79140942
>We burned your capital too. By your logic you lost.
We burned down the WH, just before the end of the war. By your logic we won.
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>>79148944

Keep waving, t̶r̶a̶n̶n̶y̶ cutie!
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>>79148480
>B-Bu, I ask Daddy for permission for my 2 shot hunting rifle every few years and . . .

***slap!!!***

AR-15. Shut up, maplebitch and make me a hat and some pancakes or there will be trouble. And bacon. Real bacon, too; not your faggoty ham.
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>>79148311
Hahaha, what the fuck are you going to do about that then burger? Sue me?

>>79148527
>He thinks he can take away trident missiles.
>He thinks we don't know how it's made.
>He thinks he can invade us.

Keep on dreaming yankee. We were the main scientists behind the Manhattan Project, so of course we know how to make it. It's just cheaper for you to manufacture it for us.

>>79148775
I'd like to see you try that one too. Wow, you Americans are extremely retarded.

>>79148973
Nah, we won mate. No need to pander some fat slobs
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>>79144123
>Every was is like a world war for US, you have never fought someone of your own size alone, all you do is pick up fights with small nations.

Even though this is historically wrong (we've fought several nations with larger populations, armies, and navies than us, like Great Britain), let's look at the facts here in the now--what countries our size or larger can we fight?

Russia, China, that's about it. India has a huge population, but they'd just get run over by the U.S. with military power, so I'm assuming you're not including them.
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>>79148941
I never said outside taxation. Of course they will be taxed. And unlike us, they do not have the means (I.e. Weapons) to fight a revolution with us. We will profit off them.

Also, do you not like games? What a disgrace it would be for the British people to become one of us. The humiliation they would feel would be sufficient reason to take their land.
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>>79149072
Those last two are puppet governments of ours. How are they not conquered? I mean, they're in a perpetual state of war, but if it isn't ISIS, it's kurds or other assorted uprisings in the shithole known as the Middle East. And last I checked, you guys were the ones that ran like bitches because you were defeated.
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>>79149302
>Keep on dreaming yankee. We were the main scientists behind the Manhattan Project, so of course we know how to make it. It's just cheaper for you to manufacture it for us.


All this delusion. Top cuck.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/defence-and-security-blog/2014/jul/01/trident-nuclear-weapons-uk

cuck cuck cuck BAKEK
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>>79147926
>MUH DIK
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>>79149437
That's been debunked.

Also
>Guardian
>Reliable

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-america-doesnt-control-britains-nuclear-weapons/

The truth is you just manufacture our nukes. That's all. It's that simple. You don't control them, and you know some information about them, just the info you know from manufacturing.

You yanks really are desperate to try and prove your worth to the worlds' only superpower, Britain.
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>>79149302
Look, I know your balls feel real big right now from asstraping the globalists. Hey, I enjoyed watching you assrape the golobalists. Good freedom Pr0n. Seriously, Canadas off to you and all, but you're still bitches because you don't have your guns and we will simply beat you down if you don't start to check that lip. Now go outside and tell that Paki to stop fucking your wife in the gutter in front of your "flat" and go get your guns back. No breakfast for you.
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>>79144717
Correct me if I'm wrong and they just don't teach history in Canadian schools, but wasn't the war fought because of the impressment of American Sailors by the British (who then controlled Canada), as well as the attempt to treat with the Northwestern Indians to halt U.S. expansion?

The United States halted the treaty attempts, put a stop to the impressment of sailors, and lifted the trade restrictions with France that was being imposed by the British.

In other words, we went back to "status quo," and this was a win.

Certainly, one of our goals was the procurement of more territory, but this was also a goal of the British.
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>>79149197
So glad to see an American that likes real bacon, and not the meagre half-fat strips Americans call "bacon".
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>>79149632
That entire article desperately reeks of Ukuckolds trying to save face. Jewoogle lists dozens of links claiming the UK is eternally cucked by the US. Here, have some more:

http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/trident-nuclear-deterrent-independent/9293

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmselect/cmdfence/986/986we13.htm
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>>79144835
>If you declare a war with the goal of acquiring territory, and that war ends without having acquired any territory, you lost that war.

Britain also had the goal of acquiring territory.

And the gaining of territory was not the reason for the incitement of the war, you moron, it was the impressment of sailors, trade restrictions with France, and the need to stop Britain from treating with Northwestern tribes to block U.S. expansion.

Do they not teach history in Canada?

Since all three of the primary objectives I mentioned were met (impressment ended, trade restrictions lifted, treaties failed), the U.S. is a clear winner.
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>>79144862
>no one claims that the USA lost except bongs and leaves trying to fuck with burgers.
Well, the majority of your countrymen ITT seem to disagree, heh.
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>>79149087
>By your logic we won.
I think you got your logic and is logic screwed up there, buddy.
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>>79149639
Even an Englishman with just his fists is worth more than 10 americans with ar-15s.

>>79149833
In theory it's dependent. In reality it's independent. The reason people claim it's dependent is because no one would want to invoke the autistic wrath of the US - or even Russia - who would inevitably use nuclear weapons back.

Technically speaking, in that sense America is not independent with their nukes, since they need to have approval (implied or explicit) with other nuclear powers, lest they be nuked and punished back.
It's the MAD doctrine: how all nuclear powers have to be responsible for one another, lest they cause a nuclear war.

That, and like I said, America manufactures our nukes; if you stopped we would manufacture our own - it would be harder and more expensive, but if we had to we would.

That being said, it's not like we don't have to have approval from the President to launch nukes, it's just implied that you should have approval from other nuclear powers or an allied nuclear power.


>>79150034
No, I think you have your logic screwed up. Unless you don't, and thus I don't.
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>>79149632
Yeah, we're completely above putting software backdoors into electronic devices like weapons of war. Sure. Completely trustworthy. That Indian didn't say anything about that blanket other than it was warm. You're hearing things.
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>>79149833
> The UK does not own its Trident missiles—they are leased from the USA. UK Trident submarines must regularly visit the US base at King's Bay, Georgia to return their missiles to the US stockpile for maintenance and replace them with others.

>he high accuracy of the Trident D5 missile depends on the submarine's position being precisely determined. This is achieved using two systems: GPS, which relies on satellites, and the Electrostatically Supported Giro Navigation System (ESGN), which uses gyroscopes. In both cases UK Trident submarines uses the same US system as the US Navy submarines. The USA has the ability to deny access to GPS at any time, rendering that form of navigation and targeting useless if the UK were to launch without US approval.

From UKuck's own parliament
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>>79150186
>>79150220

> British nuclear warheads are designed and made at Aldermaston near Reading. Aldermaston is part managed by the US corporation Lockheed Martin. Repairs to Britian's Trident submarine are carried out at Devonport, which is part managed by another US corporation, Halliburton.
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>>79150186
>No, I think you have your logic screwed up. Unless you don't, and thus I don't.
No, I'm quite certain that you have your logic screwed up in thinking that I have my logic screwed up with the claim your logic is screwed up. Therefore, if you don't, I do, and I don't, so you do.

It's all quite plain as day, chap.
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>>79149769
Your "bacon" is faggoty ham, too. I was talking about real bacon.
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>>79150734
It seems that the UKuckolds have all fled from this thread in shame after being BTFO--just like they were when they FLED from the Middle East. Git KEKED, faggots.
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>>79150220
>Servicing
Part of the cycle of manufacturing.

>On lease
Not exactly. We have them, and you can't take them away unless we allow you to, but you do service them and the project does have set times until it can be renewed.

>The USA has the ability to deny access to GPS at any time
Not exactly true either. I'm sure at launch they have that technology in there, but they have changed the technology to fit UK GPS systems. Again, we have the technology and understanding to do this. We know how to build nukes too; it's just cheaper for you build them.
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>>79141174
Thats how Canadians work. Some of my best friends are guys that used to piss me off until we fought.
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>>79150186
You're a nation of manlets and you're pure pink pussy because you let Pakis rape your wives in the gutter AFTER you let your government take your guns like the faggots you are. You're moving in the right direction, but you're still too light in the ass to step.
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>>79150858
>Americans calling anyone cucks

That's funny.
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>>79150877
>Not exactly true either.

Top fucking kek

>but they have changed the technology to fit UK GPS systems

Top fucking cuck. You mean the GPS guidance system contingent on UK satellites launched by NASA (owned by the UK, of course)? Oh, wait...
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>>79145066
France lost to the Russian winter
Brits were merely an irrelevant secondary front (which makes OP pic hilarous cause Brits were to the French what the Americans are to Brits on that pic)
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>>79150982
Dude, I'm sorry, but that gang of Pakis beheaded your wife after they gangraped her while you were on the internet. They said that they're coming in if you don't come outside and get what's coming to you. The mayor of London is with them.
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You know, this is why America is so easy to beat in wars. This is why other countries always beat you. It's because yo so god damn arrogant and ignorant you always assume the truth is what you like.

The fact remains that the UK has cucking you into giving us nuclear weapons and fooling you into thinking you control our nuclear weapons. Do you really think there's any point in having a dependent nuclear facility? Really?

>>79151003
Yes, that's what I mean. Not all of them are launched by NASA too. And the satellites are owned by the UK.

>>79151129
I'm sorry Jamal fucked your gf and now you're all salty.
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>>79141771
I truly hope that the Main Battle Tank that finally replaces the Abrams is named Schwarzkopf.
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>>79139910
No one cares but your irrelevant ass. In 20 years time it won't even be taught in Canada because you'll all be chinks or sikhs. Enjoy.
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>>79151163
>Yes, that's what I mean. Not all of them are launched by NASA too. And the satellites are owned by the UK.


You're a retard. Europe's GPS system is totally reliant on our satellites. I mean, they're trying to launch their own, but you guys are a good 15+ years away from that at least.
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>>79140989
Actually the USA got what it wanted and the british had to give those concessions. Such as withdrawing troops and they stopped kidnapping US sailors. We gave nothing since we won.
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>>79151163
Yeah; we were so easy to beat that we 1776ed your ass. Go get your guns or put that Paki dick back in your mouth. Either way, do it quietly or we'll hack "your" missiles that we made and blow them up on the stand.
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>>79151163
Yeah because Spain, Mexico, Panama, Granada and the British all really won those wars, despite losing. Get a grip, bong. Your saltiness doesn't change reality? And a Brit calling us arrogant? What a fucking laugh
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>>79139704
Reminder that they only set our white house on fire (it wasn't burned down) because we burned down their parliament buildings.
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>>79139704
i've read somewhere that (((British))) bankers have been owning the USA since
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>>79151461
>we 1776ed your ass
with France's help
and brits were also busy with india
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>>79139704
>1812
>try to take over Canada
>fail
>it was a tie because the British didn't conquer America!

>Vietnam
>Try to take over North Vietnam
>fail
>North Vietnam takes over South Vietnam
>it was a tie because we had already withdrawn our troops when they took over South Vietnam!
burger please stop

it's ok to lose wars sometimes

nobody's saying you're bad at war
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>>79151638
>and brits were also busy with india

These are excuses though
Brits focused on North America, tried their outmost, and lost
But in their defense, I must they that they were far from as powerful as most Americans believe in the late 18th century (pic related, in orange on the map)
The real British Empire started in the mid 19th century
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>>79151638
You got your ass kicked; go cry a little.

>Y-You only won because you cheated.

It's called "war", faggot and you've gone and let yourself get invaded again. Don't call me for help like you did when Hitler blew you up. This time it's your own fault. Go get your guns or get back to that Paki dick before you get beheaded.
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>>79151588
>(((Jewish)))

FTFY
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>>79151638
What, no more bantz? I don't hear any Paki dick sliding in and out of your mouth . . . You had better be going after your guns or I'm kicking your ass for because.
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>>79140989
Will Canada ever go to war to preserve the right to blow dogs?
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