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By realizing that Trump vs. Clinton is not a left vs. right
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By realizing that Trump vs. Clinton is not a left vs. right issue, but a reality vs. unreality and sane vs. unsane issue and educated vs. uneducated issue. Trump supporters are analogous to Brexiters, white nationalists and regressive idiots the world over. I'll repeat my earlier suggestion that if they were to be arrested, killed and ground into hamburger, that this would increase their overall utility to actual the thinking people of this world. It's sad that these people are so ignorant, so stupid and so myopic that basic concepts like math, science and logic have become the realm of "the elite." If not just knowing, but insisting that 2+2=4 makes one elitist, then so be it: the elitists must win this fight.
"The Brexit forces won because cynical leaders were prepared to cater to voters’ paranoia, lying to them about the dangers of immigration and the costs of membership in the EU. Some of those leaders have already begun to admit that they were lying. Donald Trump has, of course, set a new standard for disingenuousness and catering to voters’ fears, whether over immigration or foreign trade or anything else he can think of. The Republican Party, already rife with science-deniers and economic reality-deniers, has thrown itself into the embrace of a man who fabricates realities that ignorant people like to inhabit.

Did I say “ignorant”? Yes, I did. It is necessary to say that people are deluded and that the task of leadership is to un-delude them. Is that “elitist”? Maybe it is; maybe we have become so inclined to celebrate the authenticity of all personal conviction that it is now elitist to believe in reason, expertise, and the lessons of history. If so, the party of accepting reality must be prepared to take on the party of denying reality, and its enablers among those who know better. If that is the coming realignment, we should embrace it."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses-trump-2016-brexit/
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>>79126235
Too fucking long
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>>79126681

Furthermore, just because something is not illegal nor unconstitutional, does not mean that it's a good idea. A national policy of discriminating against muslims for entry to the US would be an enormous affront to the muslim nations of the world, and would damage US relations for many years to come. Such a strategy would need to have a very compelling reason to be enacted. Trump, however, has provided no such compelling reason. In fact, the *only* reason he has provided is the ambiguous "until we can figure out what is going on." In other words, he has no reason to ban muslims from entering the US except to provide his xenophobic supporters fuel for their ignorant hatred.

And, furthermore, waiting until Trump figures out what most learned people already know would take several lifetimes.
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Please tell me this is satire, I dont want to live in a wold where this isnt
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FUCK YEAH. REVOLUTION!!!
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>>79126235
this post is rambling and unreadable tl;dr

>>79126681
this is how ya meme, son! yaaaaaa!!!
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>>79126995
Revolutionize the potato.
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>>79126235
FOAD
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>>79127126
The Klan is a Christian religious organization.

Most muslims don't believe the literal interpretation of the Koran. Those who choose to come to America certainly don't.

The foreign born muslims who hate America already don't live in America - it's that simple.

As far as people who conspire to commit crimes - we have law enforcement in place to root them out, whether they be mafia, mexican drug lords, or people of middle-eastern extraction. Law enforcement generally does an excellent job at this.

Random acts of violence that are not coordinated and have nothing to do with larger cells of organized crime will always be incredibly difficult to stop, whether they be supermarket shooters, or people like Omar Mateen, who are mentally unstable and self-loathing homosexuals.
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>>79127358
>Most muslims don't believe the literal interpretation of the Koran
This is wrong.
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>>79127457
Our muslim allies like us very much.

White male Trump supporters are a far greater threat to the preservation of our nation and our values than any muslims.

I can't wait until the president gives the orders and you and your family are slaughtered in the street or brought to internment camps.
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>>79127358
Are you using this post as your application to be a writer for the john oliver show? Because it's like complete liberal memes and myths.
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ur fuckin cancer dude.

"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon"

This single sentence tells me everything I need to know about the left side.
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>>79127637
>Our muslim allies like us very much.
No they don't. Nobody likes a sycophant.

>I can't wait until the president gives the orders and you and your family are slaughtered in the street or brought to internment camps.
But the military is overwhelmingly made up of White males, many of them Trump supporters (few would support a man-hating feminist). Who would be doing the slaughtering? lol.
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muhh rational clinton voter
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>people like Omar Mateen, who are mentally unstable and self-loathing homosexuals
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>>79127921
A list of Trump supporters is being kept and I hope the the next president arrests and kills all who voted for him.
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>>79127358
>"As far as people who conspire to commit crimes - we have law enforcement in place to root them out, whether they be mafia, mexican drug lords, or people of middle-eastern extraction. Law enforcement generally does an excellent job at this."

^ this nigger here's been hitting the crack pipe
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>>79126235
beer,too many flags, one fat girl and a meth head.

these people are going to do what again ?
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>>79128098
>trump is fascist racist hitler
>we should have the government round up all these voters and kill them.
really makes u think
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It is impossible to make the statement that banning guns won't lower violent crime.


All we have to do is look at the violent crime rates of other western nations to know this.

Merely banning handguns would dramatically lower gun deaths and injuries.

Once the criminal-on-criminal and family-on-family and friend-on-friend and accidental gunshots at home are factored out, only a tiny, miniscule fraction of handgun discharges are a law abiding citizen defending himself or his home.
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>>79126235
lol butthurt
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Okay. America is 65% white and you are saying that only white supremacists vote for him, if he wins does that mean that more than 50 in every 65 white ppl are white supremacists? That shit doesn't add up, stupid nigger. Now go back to wherever you came from.
Nignog.
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>>79126235

> if they were to be arrested, killed and ground into hamburger,

Fucking socialism, eh?
Let's legalize killing people that don't agree with us. I see it everywhere.
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>>79126235
Take your commie rhetoric back to the sand box kiddo. This is where the adults play.
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And just again today, yet another tragedy that could have been prevented by gun restrictions.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/ex-colts-rb-zurlon-tipton-dead-from-own-accidental-gun-shot-201836763.html
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>>79127236
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/2000-illegal-weapons-cross-us-mexico-border-every-day

It's fairly clear that the US is the problem, not Mexico

If the US were to ban guns, not only would violence slow to a trickle the US, it would decrease in Mexico as well.
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>>79126781
7/10 bait, you actually put some effort into this and it shows, so good for you I guess. But I'll play the Devil's advocate here in the case that you might be serious and pick this shit apart a little bit. Right off the bat you say
> If not just knowing, but insisting that 2+2=4 makes one elitist, then so be it: the elitists must win this fight.
So you've already convinced yourself that you are entirely on the side of logic, along with these so called elites. whilst simultaneously ignoring the reality that what led to Trump and Brexit in the first place was said elites implementing policies which benefit nobody but themselves while throwing the people under the bus. This is the root of such movements and their ascendency, and the fact that the political class can push such policies and not see that what is happening now is, in fact, a very reasonable reaction is actually extremely illogical of them.

Further, you claim superiority without any sort of backing. Simply, you just present your case without stating any facts all while getting seemingly riled up and calling for the extermination of everybody you disagree with while you spout generic Globalist statements about Trump's "hateful" and "Ignorant" rhetoric towards Muslims. Ironically, we're dealing with a religion that reacts much the same toward all that which is not itself, something that someone as enlightened and well-versed in reality like yourself should already know.
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>>79129348
You have way too much free time. Either get a hobby or start killing people already and shut the fuck up.

>>79126681
Now I can get behind THIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs
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>>79129348

When Trump wins, I'm moving to Mexico

Said no one, ever.
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>>79130010
Illegals will move there. Not by choice though.
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>>79129674
My main point is that nothing you say is held up under any real scrutiny if reality is the measure you're supposedly dealing in. You cite no actual sources beyond flavor-of-the-day clickbait and you come across like the average talking head on television spewing self-congratulatory talking points that they have minimal-to-no real understanding of, acting as if you know everything without proof and shitting on the intelligence of the common man and those genuinely more intelligent than you alike, two things which need not be mutually exclusive.
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>>79126235
Regressive is a term that does not belong to your kind. You call us "reactionaries", which is a term I support. We are reacting to the idiocy the left spews out. You are the regressives, you want totalitarianism. Fuck off (and yes I know this is bait)
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>>79126235
They could use an interior decorator. The white pride flags get a little repetitive.
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>>79126235

Schizo go home.
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>>79129674
Trump supporters are ignorant garbage. There isn't a single reason to vote for Trump. He's a mediocre businessman and he demonstrates his profound ignorance of both world affairs and governmental process virtually every time he speaks on the subjects.

And in the very unlikely event that he is on the precipice of winning this election, he will certainly be killed by the CIA or some other shadow group anyway. So what's the point? Hillary is an immeasurably better candidate than Trump. Trump is a joke punchline; a national disgrace.
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>>79128249
I've never professed to be a "tolerant liberal," whatever that means.

But in any event, a refusal to tolerate intolerance does not impute intolerance upon that person. It's a distinction that tends to make conservatives' heads hurt, but that's not my problem. Have someone else explain it to you.
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>>79130699
what are you gonna cry?
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>>79130699
+10 ClintonCoins have been deposited into your account
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>>79130827

>I proclaim that the whole world must know of my peaceful and tolerant ways
>BY FORCE!

0/10 bait it's been degrading in quality this entire thread but it's kind of entertaining to read so I'll stick around.
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>>79131139
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>>79130329

I'm more intelligent and learned than 99% of the population. I fully understand the issues, and have come to the appropriate conclusions. You, however, prove that you cannot grasp even the simplest of matters. Your post betrays that you've continually fall prey to the same logical fallacies and missteps in thinking. Which is not surprising: you are the supporter of a candidate who becomes more popular the more unintelligent, unschooled and xenophobic the audience is.

I almost wish Trump could get popular enough to win, so I could watch oh TV as his head explodes into a gooey red blast from a CIA sniper's rifle. The tantrums, back-biting and accusations of fraud when he loses by over 100 electoral votes will have to suffice.
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>>79127358
>Most muslims don't believe the literal interpretation of the Koran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T48hLiBy-zk

>Those who choose to come to America certainly don't.
then why don't the families of these terrorists turn them in before bad shit happens? Look into Mateens father and get back to us.
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>>79130699
You still haven't professed any knowledge or points of value and thus have no ground to stand on. You are either a complete retard or a shill at this point, I'm guessing the latter. I'm responding mostly because I'm bored and don't really expect anything out of it. Continue to humor me with your self-professed wisdom.
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>>79127236

>that tweet

NK knows its shit
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>>79131664
I've been on this earth too long to abide stupidity and ignorance on a grand scale. I'm not running for president, Trump is. So yes, I can use whatever vile language I desire to characterize him and his followers and it's not even remotely hypocritical. If I *was* running for president, I wouldn't be able to. But - like I said - I'm not.

"People you disagree with." People insisting that 2+2=5 are not "people I disagree with." Not every issue has two equally legitimate perspectives. Quite often there is what is right, and then there are a bunch of fools who believe what is wrong. I no longer have the energy to suffer the fools gladly.

People like "Trips" (who himself is probably just a troll who doesn't believe half of what he's writing) are not deserving of being legitimized as "people I disagree with." They are simply wrong - dangerously wrong - and there is no place in an enlightened society for them. As I said in another post - they would serve a greater utility as rotting carcasses fertilizing our fields than they do as living independent agents.
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>>79131373
> You, however, prove that you cannot grasp even the simplest of matters. Your post betrays that you've continually fall prey to the same logical fallacies and missteps in thinking.

Then present them in an analytical way so I have an easier time believing you're legitimate in your beliefs and are as you say, because it's not as fun if you can't at least maintain the illusion that you believe everything you say.
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>>79131373

>Argues that we all use logical fallacies

>At least three in that post alone.

Nice appeal to Widespread Belief, Appeal to false Authority, and strawmanning by stating opinions that no rational person on this board sincerely holds for the sole purpose of riling us up which coincidentally is an appeal to emotion not to rational thought.
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>>79132014

>this degree of autism
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>>79132014


Everything is most certainly NOT a matter of opinion.

I'm knowledgeable and intelligent and therefore I can prove things.

/pol/ only parrots the sound-bytes you're fed, and then get salty when the facts show that you are wrong and then insist that the facts were generated by a vast liberal conspiracy.

None of you have shown no interest in any kind of actual debate, so I'm just going to ridicule and humiliate you, because that is the treatment of which you are most deserving and because I rather enjoy it.
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>>79132242

meant to quote >>79132129
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>>79126235
Hey look, another liberal who thinks that the left are "intellectuals" and have a monopoly on intelligence.

Nothing worse than an idiot who thinks he's smart.

Kill yourself as soon as possible OP.
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>>79132242
Yes, continue to show everyone how you have no actual points at all to argue so you can continue ballyhooing about how intellectually superior you are. We get it. You've done exactly zilch to prove you know anything because in all likelihood you don't. I'm interested in an actual debate, so prove me wrong using actual evidence and convince me you aren't just wasting your energy.
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>>79126235
I want you to take a look at the title of that article that you linked.

>It's time for the elites to rise up against the ignorant masses

You somehow are under the impression that the global elite have our best interests in mind. nothing could be further from the truth, they are only interested in bleeding us dry for as long as we still bleed, and culling us when we become to cumbersome.
Hillary is a whore, a woman who has sold all dignity, all integrity just for vast wealth. She is not even a crafty political mastermind, she is simply a blatant liar.
When she is called out on her many lies, she stumbles over herself like a child caught playing hooky from school.
With a woman as stupid and incompetent as Hillary, you know the only reason she is being backed by the elite is because she follows orders to a tee.
If hillary is elected you know exactly what you are getting, more oppression and actual, tangible tyranny.
If Trump wins the future is uncertain, whether this will be good or bad, we have no way of knowing, but at least he gives us the chance to break this endless cycle of being drained by the globalists.
thank you and gob bless
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>>79133033
Supporting Hillary in this election does not mean that a person agrees with, likes or even wants to tolerate any of her worst aspects.

It means that the person is rational enough to understand that Donald Trump is so horrible of a candidate that literally mainstream politician with a decent resume, from either party, is immeasurably preferable.

I'll repeat: you are supporting a candidate so toxic that his own party hates him and won't support him, and whom the CIA will murder to prevent from ever taking office.
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White nationalists hurt nobody. Anarchists and communists are as cancerous as Sunni islamists.
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>>79126235
>its-time-for-the-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses
That someone can think that by writing this their point of view will be well accepted is just baffling to me. They are their own worst enemies.
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>>79133122
Frankly, I think the only reason Trump is running is to 'guarantee' a Hillary presidency. The GOP lined up a bunch of really substandard candidates this election. Ben Carson? C'mon! The powers-that-be behind the scenes couldn't have orchestrated it more blatantly. I don't know what Hillary has promised them, but it's pretty obvious they've chosen her well before this election cycle. And yes, if Trump gets any delusions about actually taking office, he will be assassinated. I mean, all the venom spewed at Obama the last 8 years, and you're telling me no one got even close to assassinating him? It's because he's playing ball with the real masters behind the scenes, and it's only those who don't play ball who get assassinated.
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>>79126235
You need this thread anon
>>79130126
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>>79126681
People like you miss out on important information due to laziness and nigger tier illiteracy.
See my above post for the thread you very much need
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>>79133250
>MentallyShill kills americans, lets rapists go free, friends with kkk members, helps the global jew, and cares about the cash more than the citizens
>The Don said something that hurt some illegals feefees

Seriously, Mc fucking Kill yourself.
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>>79133828
Most of the people who hate Hillary have nothing at all to back up the hatred with. They're mostly just upset that a woman has accomplished so many things. She's been a Senator and Secretary of State. Short of being a governor that's about as accomplished as most presidential candidates of note typically are.
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>>79126235
Tl;dr let's just fucking light this candle already
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>>79133250
>Supporting Hillary in this election does not mean that a person agrees with, likes or even wants to tolerate any of her worst aspects.
Consider for a second that the same could apply to Trump in many cases, including my own.
>It means that the person is rational enough to understand that Donald Trump is so horrible of a candidate that literally mainstream politician with a decent resume, from either party, is immeasurably preferable.
Elaborate on why he is somehow worse than Hillary, because from what I can see, his policies actually carry far more long-term benefits than Hilllary's do.
>I'll repeat: you are supporting a candidate so toxic that his own party hates him and won't support him, and whom the CIA will murder to prevent from ever taking office.
Both parties are controlled by globalist bureaucrats and to differentiate between them at this point is worthless. He's backed them into a corner where they're forced to nominate him lest they face actual, visceral consequences from an alienated and pissed-off populace. This is the same reason why the CIA wouldn't go to the trouble of murdering him. The backlash could very easily destabilize the country and make it infinitely harder to govern.
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>>79133995
Nothing he said is untrue, though.
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>>79133995
>Only hate her because she is a strong and accomplished woman!
>Not because she is a serial liar and literal whore of Wall Street

Come the fuck on OP
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>>79134216
Donald Trump has thus far earned the voting support of about 4% of voting-aged Americans.

Uneducated racist white voting aged men - while admittedly making up more than 4% of the country, could not possibly comprise more than somewhere between 15 and 20% of it.

Believe me, I'm insulting a pretty small subset of the country, and it's a subset that, for the most part, deserves it.
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>>79134439

The possibility of you being amenable to evidence is almost precisely zero, but just the same: Some less bullshit assessments of the relevant issues.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/apr/07/politifacts-guide-2016-candidates-tax-plans/

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/02/gop-economist-bush-tax-cuts-worked-brilliantly.html
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>>79134742
>4% of voting-aged Americans
Source?
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>>79132014
Still hanging on, huh? You will never get those NEET bux you piece of shit, never. Trump 2016
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>>79128448
That's completely wrong though. The last I checked, criminals didn't have too much regard for the law. Yet here you are saying that imposing more laws will stop these acts. You don't care about crime or saving lives, you care about control, just as the left a,ways has. People like you are so scared of their own shadow that they want to outsource their feeling of safety to the state. Let's never mind that some of the most egregious attrocities have been committed by states. Where people are unarmed, they are subjected to the will of the state without any accountability for said state. however,I imagine you'll just keep riding your moral high horse demanding that we unilaterally disarm ourselves while advocating women get abortions at the drop of a hat.
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>>79135030
You aren't getting this. There is nothing - and I truly mean nothing - than can be said about or unearthed about Hillary Clinton that would change the fact that she is an immeasurably superior candidate than Donald Trump. The world won't end if Hillary Clinton is elected. Things will continue along more or less as they had.

Donald Trump is so monumentally unfit for the presidency that the CIA is actually going to assassinate him if he appears headed for victory. If you are being serious about supporting him, then you are one of the greatest fools I've ever encountered.
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>>79126235
I read that garbage article and if I had the author in front of me right now I'd put a bullet through his head.

It like to address one thing. The guy claims that the evil nativists are ignorant science deniers. Well on some things maybe but on RACE and IQ/behavior it is HE that is the science denier and that's why we are in this mess.
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>>79126235
this is why I hope USA elects Trump as president. Oh boy will it be fun to watch it all implode.
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>>79135418
How will Trump end the world if he wins? Please elaborate because right now you sound eerily similar to the homeless guy with a foil hate trying to spread conspiracy theories

How will one man so alienated from his own party get anything done in a Republican controlled house and senate?
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>>79135418
You have obviously never met a woman if you think one is able to be president of the USA. If you bothered to read any of the posts above, which you clearly did not, you would see how inept she is. Her mentality is "BOMB THEM ALL, LOOK AT HOW BIG MY GIRL-DICK IS!", where as Trump is saying "We can work something out if we sit down and talk about it."
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>>79135612
George W. Bush was the first US president I ever hated. I spent the self-aware portion of my life with four presidents before him - two from each party - and I never hated any of them. Before 09/11, I had never considered myself particularly political in any way. The gross stupidity and lemming mentality of the contemporary US right wing (which, in retrospect, had been born during the Clinton administration and first flexed its muscles by trying to impeach him for the "high crime" of lying about getting an unauthorized blow job) didn't really make itself apparent to me until that time. So yes - I had some (justifiably) pretty harsh words for that administration and the people who supported it. But I'm reviving the sentiment against Trump, because he's such an atrocity.

I was really harsh on GWB and his supporters and now I'm being really harsh on Trump and his. Not because of a "difference of opinions," but because of objectively real matters.
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>>79135418
As a foreigner I support Trump because it'd be fucking hilarious (Hillary-ous?) to see him win and destroy the place, and to see Hillary BTFO again
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>>79135920
>letting emotions inform your politics

Tits or gtfo
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>>79135920
>I asked how Trump would destroy the world
>OP instead rants about why he hates Bush

How many points did you put into your dexterity because you dodged my original question like a fucking champ
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>>79135920
Oh you're full of crap. You're just an angry little bugger coming on here to rag on people you don't like. You think you know everything there is to know and that because a group of people have a different set of ideas than you, then automatically they're complete idiots. People like you are the reason we're in this position today.
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>>79136331
"Everybody's opinion is equally valid" is PC garbage.
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>>79136316
I have not even met a single Trump supporter who is capable of even actually describing to me why they voted for him. They dance around the topic of race, but in the end it always comes down to an irrational fear of Mexicans, Chinese, and Muslims. Always. It always comes back to that rhetoric. They are 100% ignorant human garbage.
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>>79126235

>Here let me "un-delude" you by vastly lowering your standard of living

Yeah, that's going to work out well.

Also;

>Time for the elites to "rise up" against the unwashed masses

I kek'd hard.
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>>79136564
Good argument. How is summer vacation, slugger? Having fun pretending to be an adult?
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>>79136438
Actually on an anonymous image board that is true. Status and identity means nothing here. Your thoughts are no more valid than those of other posters. In fact it may be less valid because you continue to appeal to emotion, masturbate your own ego, and never back up the shit you say.
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>>79136438
See, that's funny because I don't recall saying every opinion is valid.
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>>79136564
Again you ignore my question. How will Trump destroy the world if elected with a Republican majority in both the house and senate? A party you yourself said has alienated the fuck out of him.

>I have never met
And I have never met a black person that wasn't ghetto trash, does that mean they all are?
Your personal experiences are irrelevant to the facts. Now answer my original question
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>>79136938
Trump isn't an altruist, he's a bully motivated purely by self-interest. He does not possess exceptional political skills: while there are certain aspects of being a candidate that he is undoubtedly gifted at, there are many others in which his deficiencies are painfully glaring. He does not have the backing of a host of Washington insiders and policy-makers who would theoretically comprise his administration. In fact, hardly anybody with any credibility in Washington is supporting him, and he is loathed by the majority of the lawmakers within his own political party.

"promising to bring back jobs they might have lost and keep out people from taking them for a lower price. Is he going to do all these things? Most probably not. But since when do people believe that anyone running for the highest office of country is going to do everything they promise? Personally, I find that's more ignorant than the possibly false hope brought on by Trump's campaign."

Did you notice something here? I detailed why Trump is a bad candidate and would make a historically terrible president WITHOUT EVEN GETTING TO HIS LUDICROUS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. Yes, you are right - everybody makes campaign promises that they can't keep. But that doesn't make every candidate equally undesirable. Trump can't do any more of the things he wants to do than Bernie Sanders could. But whereas Bernie Sanders (or Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio, to use Republican examples) are legitimate public servants who know how to keep things working even when they don't work entirely in your favor. Trump has demonstrated zero ability to do this. The manner in which he has run his campaign so far should provide more than enough of an example of his woefully unfit he is for the office.
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>>79137173
I'll reiterate that Trump supporters are ignorant garbage. I'll also reiterate that I'm not joking one bit when I say that, in the very unlikely event that Trump is on the precipice of being elected (a Trump win is currently trading at a mere 26% on the prediction markets, and this is factoring in an indictment against Hillary Clinton that would render her unable to run for the office, so his actual odds in an actual election are even lower), Trump will be assassinated.

In short, there is virtually no possibility that he will ever be allowed to hold the office of POTUS.
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>>79126235
>Calls trump supporters dumb and states people like them should be killed/arrested
>expects doing so will get them to vote Hillary
This is literally how remain lost, if you where smart and genuinely had our best interests in mind you wouldn't need to be a faggot about it and alienating us in the process. Fuck off cunt I look forward to destroying you in the next race war.
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White Pride people always are really ugly with bad genes.
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>One post by this...

Oh hey they're learning. Better to keep it in one thread that seems "genuine". Good call.

Also a word of advice the second you turn it into "us vs them" you're instantly out-numbered. Most people just aren't pretentious enough to consider themselves "elite" so it serves to rally people who would otherwise be on the fence to fight against "the man" (you). People love counter-cultures and this ones the biggest the world's ever seen.
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I'll be more impressed when shills actually convince us to vote for Clinton, instead of just trying to convince us not to vote for Trump.

Which isn't the same fucking thing, shut up.
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>I'll win people over to my side by insulting them and breeding resentment

When has this EVER worked? You remind me of that autistic kid /brit/ makes fun of
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>>79126781

FURTHERMORE, your are
FURTHERMORE most likely to
FURTHERMORE have come from REDDIT.
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>>79135550
Obama likes Hillary just fine, and he's going to bring in millions of extra votes for her.

Trump supporters are ignorant garbage. There isn't a single reason to vote for Trump. He's a mediocre businessman and he demonstrates his profound ignorance of both world affairs and governmental process virtually every time he speaks on the subjects.
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>>79137173
>Purely self interest
And Hillary isn't? That power hungry bitch gives zero fucks about the people. She panders for votes then moves on

>Does not possess exceptional political skills
His sweeping victories imply otherwise. Also Obama lacked a lot of those skills yet he didn't do abysmal at the job. I will grant you that success in the private sector does not necessarily translate to success in politics but only time can tell that

>Nobody in Washington likes him
And that is bad how? Washington is corrupt as fuck, anyone they hate merits some benefit of the doubt, not a lot but some

>Is he going to do all these things?
With a republican controlled house and senate it is unlikely therefore you have nothing to fear.

>Jeb, Rubio, Sanders
Jeb is also a legacy like Hillary. Gives zero fucks about us and is in it for personal gain and like Rubio is a puppet of the Republican establishment and will do zero good for us. Sanders was never a candidate in the first place. The Democratic Party wanted to get Hillary the youth vote but she has zero youth appeal, therefore they dangle Sanders in front of the unwitting masses to gather donations and support. Sanders is an incompetent moron who has only sponsored what? 3 bill during his entire tenure? Even the Democrats see him for the cancer he is

So far your only reasons to hate Trump are because he is inexperienced in politics, despised by Washington, and will not be able to deliver on all his promises. The way he has run his campaign has been brilliant whether you like the man or not, he has spent the least and gained the most out of all his competitors. Honestly the way you are trying to fear monger against the man I would think he spends his weekends throwing babies off his tower in NYC. But he doesn't and your reasons for hating him can easily be applied to literally any candidate of the last 50 years
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>>79137864
This is honestly type A autism, they're seriously losing it at this point. They just don't know what to do. It's beautiful to see them squirm.
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>>79126235
Anon, have you ever looked up at the sky and thought "maybe it doesn't matter what I think"
Of course you haven't.
It doesnt matter if you think your smart
it doesn't matter if your holier them us
It doesn't matter if hillary wins
It doesn't matter if trump wins
Global politics is past the tipping point, what we are seeing is it slowly loose it's balance before falling into the void. There is no going back and correcting our mistakes now.
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>>79126235
Yeah, your post is riddled with grammatical errors, personal prejudices, and broken analogies, smart guy, but keep telling yourself how educated you are. Oh, also
>OP is a faggot
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>>79137864
Never works
OP is not winning any victories, he is creating more hatred for his own "superior" ideologies
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>>79137644

Trump hired a Goldman Sachs guy as his campaign's Finance Director. Also has big donors like Sheldon Adelson and Super PACs behind him now. He's begging for money since he's nowhere near wealthy enough to actually fund his own campaign.
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>>79126781
You know, if you people put this much effort into fixing your own party's shit, then I doubt half of us would be here.
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>>79138708
And? Hillary is funded by all of Wall Street
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>>79138083
White male Trump supporters are a far greater threat to the preservation of our nation and our values than any muslims.
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>>79127637
Dude, you are fucking retarded.
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>>79126235
>unsane

stopped reading there. OP you are retarded and whatever youre trying to get me to do, im not going to do it
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>>79138895
>Time now to play identity politics! A game for everyone ages 5 to 18!
Ok ignoring that this is the cancer killing our political stage I will humor you

How are white men more dangerous than the majority of a religion that has declared war on us? Is it their patriarchy powers? Their means words?
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>>79130699
I didn't know you paid shill were allowed to go at it like this. No wonder you're bottom of the barrel
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>>79126235
>bringing down trump's poll numbers and credibility
Fuck these retarded white nationalists. They are like the violent leftist protestors. We don't need that shit, and everyone just thinks they are the KKK.
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>>79131373
>I'm more inte-

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>>79126235
Tldr
Op is a faggot
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>>79138895
>implying sharia law embraces western values
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>>79138999
Sounds like you might be a little non-antisane
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Looked him up, the author is a Jew.
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>>79139472
i am pretty anti unsane you not not not not a retard ;^)
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>>79139624
:)
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>>79126235
Doubt you believe this.

Britain left Angela's Fourth Reich. The EU was becoming more powerful each year and trying to grab more and more power over its member nations. The EU can make up random new laws and cuck member nations with them. Why the fuck do we want to let other countries regulate us? Especially countries with people like Merkel at the helm.

It took decades for the EU to secure all of its trade deals. In just a few days, England has been flooded with trade deals, free movement deals (NZ, Aus, Canada) and we haven't even activated Article 50 yet.

Donald Trump is the best choice in the US election. It's either "racist" Donald Trump, or mass murderer Hillary Clinton. Who will be the next political opponent to die under mysterious circumstances?
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>>79139160
Trump supporters are very arguably unAmerican. Trump, however, has provided no such compelling reason. In fact, the *only* reason he has provided is the ambiguous "until we can figure out what is going on." In other words, he has no reason to ban muslims from entering the US except to provide his xenophobic supporters fuel for their ignorant hatred.
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>>79126235
>White nationalists are uneducated

Are you implying that the muslim/ african invaders to europe are not in some way nationalistit?

That Indian people going to the west for high-paying jobs aren't sending money back to India? That's nationalism.

That Mexicans aren't as we speak protesting and complaining that they own texas? That this isn't in some way nationalistic?

So what do we find, that all groups are nationalistic. But you somehow have this issue with whites being nationalist, which is funny, because from a civility point of view white people ended slavery. They improved technological advancement to the point that it is possible for us to circumnavigate the globe in days.

So given that when whites have national pride, stuff gets done, and when non-whites have it, nothing gets done, why would you advocate against whites and for non-whites??
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>>79136316

He dodged the question because literally every post of his is copypasta.

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/George%20W.%20Bush%20was%20the%20first%20US%20president%20I%20ever%20hated./
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>>79138708
>Begging for money
>Private jet with gold-plated everything inside

This is the core of why you people are getting btfo: Not a single one of you can rationalize your beliefs without doublethink, lying, altering current definitions of words/making up words to fit your narratives, or all of those, combined. Nobody's fooled by any of that shit. You all just kidded yourselves into believing we are. And you got so comfortable with the boot of political correctness stamping out any dissent you encountered, you weren't prepared for Trump. You didn't have a Plan B. So you resort to dishonest tactics like shilling, bussing in and paying protesters, literally voting for the most corrupt bitch to ever run for office, physically attacking Trump supporters in large gangs, and alienating people with conservative values. You believe you, and you, alone, have the fucking right to exist, because you think you're right, and that, alone, is wrong. You believe we're just going to go along quietly in the night, because otherwise we'll be called an -ist or a -phobe, thus ruining our lives; well, you're fucking wrong. There is no peace in a country where the majority is too afraid to speak their minds. You've been suffocating too many people for too long. Why don't you go find a high rafter, a rope, and a stool, and go do the right thing?
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>>79139808
>They are unamerican
How so?
>No reason to ban Muslims
His specific words were prevent Muslim immigration from territories under radical Islamic control. Muslim citizens that are abroad will be allowed back into the country and legal immigration from more stable areas will not be blocked
Also Islam, at its core, is incompatible with the United States and the western world in general.
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>>79126235
by saying these things about your political opponents it shows you don't understand the underlying failures of your own ideology that are causing this rebellion.
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>>79126235
>sane and unsane
>unsane
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>>79139976
That is brilliant pasta and absolutely hilarious. I had figured early on he was trolling but damn he did it well. Good thing I've been saging every one of my posts just in case
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>>79129348
> Violent crime would trickle

Except that's not what happens. See: Australia.
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>>79139466
LOL. The gun flow is from the US to Mexico, not the other way around, Einstein.

No guns = very low gun crime.

Armed citizens prevent virtually no crimes, so tha whole "gun free zone" argument is completely irrelevant. Virtually all large public spaces where people work, travel or consume alcohol are gun free zones. If they weren't, there would be gun violence on a regular basis.
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>>79126781
>A national policy of discriminating against muslims for entry to the US would be an enormous affront to the muslim nations of the world, and would damage US relations for many years to come.
No, Muslims who want to enter the country for legitimate reasons, and don't hate the US, would understand why the temporary ban was necessary, and shouldn't be offended by it. I'm not offended by Japan's strict immigration system. I don't sit here and think about how hard it would be to get into Japan, and sit here planning attacks against Japan because I'm upset about it.
>Such a strategy would need to have a very compelling reason to be enacted. Trump, however, has provided no such compelling reason.
Hm, what about all the attacks Muslims do, such as what we saw in Paris, and what we saw in Orlando, and all across Europe for that matter? These people are literally inbred animals, who are taught from a very young age to hate Christians because they're infidels and Allah wants you to kill them. If someone is really stupid and is part of a cult that wants me dead, excuse me but I don't want them near me. Common sense.
>And, furthermore, waiting until Trump figures out what most learned people already know would take several lifetimes.
Do you know that his IQ is estimated at 156? He is way smarter than you'll ever be.
>>79127637
>I can't wait until the president gives the orders and you and your family are slaughtered in the street or brought to internment camps.
Oh, look, he thinks he's joining the elite. He thinks this won't happen to him because he's on 4chan saying he'll go along with the plan.

I really, really hope you're trolling, and not just an absolute god damn retard. I really hope someone this stupid doesn't actually exist.
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>>79127358
>>79127637
>>79126235
I voted for Obama twice and would vote for him again, I also supported Bernie Sanders. I live in CA and am also black.

Guess who I am voting for? Trump. Why? Because Hillary a lying, corrupt bitch who cannot be trusted. You Hillary supporters who blindly shit on Trump while utterly disregarding Hillary's corruption while tauting her as the Second Coming are why I am voting Trump, and the reason Trump is going to win.

Go fuck yourself you hypocrite.
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>>79138811


The big lie. There is no cabal of "elites" conspiring to throw the white working man under the bus. Has there been a rise of corporatism in the western world over the last few decades that has concentrated wealth among the upper few percents? Sure - and people like Donald Trump participated in it. The stupidity of Trump's followers are that they are so easily fooled by the sleight of hand; that they are so easily convinced that it is the fault of minorities, political correctness, lax immigration, military softening, "bad trade deals" and a failure to "tell it like it is" that things these conditions occurred - and furthermore that their spittle-sputtering lunatic of a leader isn't also one of people who have been squeezing them.

In short, these are uneducated, unintelligent people duped by retread xenophobia and hate by the exact same groups of people who have never had their interests at hand. It would be funnier if this hadn't been going on for a really long time now - Nixon called it "the southern strategy." How does it feel to fall for the political equivalent of a snipe hunt?

For you, the turnip truck might still be in sight as it rolls off into the distance.
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>>79131373
So is this what shilling is going to be like now. Just paragraph long posts with zero substance. essentially a really long muh dick paragraph.
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>>79131373
>More intelligent than 99% of the population
>Up past midnight spouting pseudo-intellectual, narcissistic sweet nothings on 4Chan, as an alternative to explaining why voting for someone who kisses Klansmen, gets off rapists and laughs about it, and has an actual body count updated just this month, is better than voting for a billionaire real-estate tycoon with a squeaky-clean public record.
>Not currently using superhuman intelligence to accumulate wealth or create scientific breakthroughs.

Okie-dokes.
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>>79140650
see
>>79140800
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>>79140800
>It would be funnier if this hadn't been going on for a really long time now - Nixon called it "the southern strategy." How does it feel to fall for the political equivalent of a snipe hunt?
You mean like how LBJ said he'd "have niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years"?
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>>79141156
Yeah I read your shitty post, only one thing stood out to me: >>79141164
And you didn't address anything I just said and will now ignore it. Anyway, Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person to ever run for President of the United States. Hope you understand why we can't let low IQ emotional reacting idiots with absolutely no good arguments whatsoever determine the fate of the nation.
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>>79140800
Just a coincidence right goys.
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this was some really good bait
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Most people who choose to own guns are bad people.

When they are all made illegal and the are forced to turn them over, the subsequent cleansing will be a great thing for America. If all members of the NRA wire lined up and executed tomorrow (crossing my fingers) our country would be a much better, much more intelligent and much safer place.
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>>79140800
You sound like just the sort of scumbag who would try to stick up for "elites".
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>>79140490
I wasn't talking about guns, faggot. I was talking about islam as a whole.
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>>79126235
I would say its a nationalist vs a globalist issue.
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>>79141688
>leftist "tolerance"
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>>79141688

>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Most%20people%20who%20choose%20to%20own%20guns%20are%20bad%20people./
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>>79140765

The gun issue is an important one. How can you as a black man betray your own race? Your race gets gunned down in cold blood statistically the most, not even just from police but overall gang violence. How can you support Trump, who is pro-gun?

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/2000-illegal-weapons-cross-us-mexico-border-every-day

If the US were to ban guns, not only would violence slow to a trickle the US, it would decrease in Mexico as well.
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>>79126235
>sane vs. unsane
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is sane now?
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>>79142269
Oh, look, a leftist who doesn't believe in personal responsibility, and is also a globalist. Who would have guessed?
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>>79142269
what if he wants to kill other niggas?
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heh nice paywall kid

would be a shame if something were to happen to it
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>>79143243
NoScript did a fine job of blocking that screen for me.
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>>79126781
You're the sort of person to think that telling someone to stop pounding you in the head "damages relations".
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>>79126235
>>79126781
It's this sort of prejudiced name-calling that will earn the elites their inevitable comeuppance. They seem willfully ignorant of the fact that large segments of society do not share their values.
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>>79144326
They are aware. They just think they should be reeducated or eliminated.
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>>79144124
what is wrong with people
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Itt: :^)
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>>79131373
Thanks for the autism.
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>>79146843

You'd be very disappointed to know what I really look like


First of all, Fedoras with stripes on them are pretty gay. It's trying too hard. I have four different fedoras, but they're all solid. You want the stylish trad look, but don't want to draw excessive attention to the fedora. Ideally, one's persona and look will result in the fedora melding with the head in the eyes of the audience, such that it becomes as permanent (yet, as unassuming) as one's hair (provided the hair is styled in a traditional manner). Stripes make the audience say "there's that guy with the fedora again," whereas something less flashy allows the fedora and all its subtext to seamlessly merge with the wearer. Of course even the perfect vessel for the fedora will ultimately fail if he is in possession of equal parts huge doses of awesomeness, self-conscious quirkiness and sensitivity, and I have cultivated vast store of all of these traits.

Secondly, if one is to have a soul patch, it must be fuller and more robust than the wispy tuft in the photo. Mine is larger and denser, and I've found that a light application of wax or even hair gel can allow for the stylish manipulation of it, such that it appears masculine, but not *too* masculine.

Also: one should carry an acoustic guitar with him everywhere that it is feasible. Women like nothing more than a trendy but sensitive man strumming trendy but sensitive songs on park bench, or street corner.
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>>79143243
nice delusion kiddo
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>>79127358
The Klan hasn't even killed 2000 people in its history. Just one Islamist killed 53 in a day.
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>>79126235

>unsane

lol stopped reading you liberal trash

get fucking lost.
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>>79126235
not reading your blog
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>>79126235
>it's another ''antifa redditard thinks his non-arguments are going to save the world from nazis'' thread
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>>79149392
All people affiliated with a fundamentalist Christian church should be deported.

Or killed - I don't care which. Fundamentalist christianity is much less compatible with the ideals of American than Islam.
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>>79149626
>undamentalist christianity is much less compatible with the ideals of American than Islam.
No.
You need to read the bible and the Quran.
Both have bad parts, and the bible has more worse shit in it pretty much because it's a longer book.

You are talking way out of your ass.
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>>79142269
See this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tMs9tknsN8&feature=youtu.be&t=6m39s
Question at 6:39
Tell me how that is wrong in any way. I'm interested to know.
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