What's the counter to this?
>>79125698
We left
Your turn
>>79125698
Tell someone who gives a fuck
If you didn't like it done to you then don't do it to others. Cupcake :)
>>79125698
>bring literacy, technology, and wealth
>immigrants bring rape, brutality, and poverty
gee whiz
>>79125698
"so you admit our current immigration is actually an invasion?"
>>79125698
Who would know better than us?
>>79125698
We make the rules.
>>79125698
These dubs
>>79125698
Our people didn't stay.
>>79125820
n-no anon, I...
We deserve it!
There is no counter to it. Its a non-sequitur. Its Invading countries is not the same as mass immigrating to them. The US does not have a history of colonizing other countries.
Two wrongs don't make a right regardless.
But its pointless to argue against this meme because its just that- a shitty meme. It plays on emotional values and attempts to discredit nationalism by suggesting its hypocritical (it isn't). Nobody will understand this point who already agrees with this meme on some level though, so don't argue against it. Its too vague to argue against; just change the topic.
>>79125698
"Fuck you. You don't like it, we'll invade you next. Then, you'll wish we had done it sooner."
because I had absolutely no influence on the invasion of said countries
>>79125698
"Hey /pol/ I can't reason or argue for myself, someone tell me what to say back to this arguement that has stumped me"
Also: the counter is "yes it's all very ironic, now pack your bags"
>>79125698
What does invasion have to do with immigration?
No one debates the fact that the world's countries had a right to defend themselves. Why do we not?
And if this is an invasion, then it should be fought -- violently if necessary -- like all invasions.
![Colonialism+tycoon+source+imgur_fb5045_4886284[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tMTHduK.jpg "Colonialism+tycoon+source+imgur_fb5045_4886284[1].jpg")
>>79125698
>What's the counter to this
They are responsible for 98% of the world's inventions
and receive no thanks
"Our culture is better than theirs, we're right to invade them."
>people now are responsible for the actions of people hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years ago
>>79125698
Yes, so what?
Invading countries was good, immigrants are bad. What's wrong with that?
They are trying to catch me on something I admit willingly.
>>79125698
The US and UK brought prosperity
Islam brings higher crime rates, lower education standards and a leech on the government
>>79125698
Europe didn't do anything unique historically by forming huge empires across the world. It just had the biggest sticks.
And most countries didn't get any better after decolonization. We brought them civilization while they're coming merely to leech off our extensive welfare systems, which is backed up by unemployment rates and welfare usage rates.
>>79125698
We didn't immigrate, we conquered.
>>79125698
So, you still condone invasions and genocides?
>>79125698
If the immigrants built diamond mines, cities, universities and improved wages, HDI and life expectancy then maybe people wouldn't complain as much.
>>79125698
There's so much mental gymnastics with these people there's no point in countering. You could ask if the migration of whites benefited the countries or not.
If they say it was harmful then you can tell them you agree that immigration is bad and we should take our past actions as warnings not to let hoards of shitskins in.
If they say it was beneficial (protip: they wont) then you can ask them what the problem is lol
>>79125959
>the US does not have a history of colonizing other countries.
ay lmao
What is: South Korea, Japan, and control of national and global policy on almost every nation of the world.
Newsflash: The modern colonization is a financial and political policy based one, idiot.
But yes I hate leftist as well, but lets not be idiots ourself.
>>79125698
*pretends to cry*
That was wrong.
Those who do not know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them, and we not gonna immigration happen here.
>>79125698
Where do I start? There is literally nothing remotely correct about that assertion, it's the kind of thing only a cretin would believe.
And yet it seems to be considered a valid point by some. So by now I think the counter-argument is fuck you you waste of space.
Nobody alive today had any involvement to this.
>>79125698
>1 post
>by this ID
is this meme supposed to include the dutch, french, spanish, germans, danish, norwegians and portuguese as well?
The only counter is to drive them out and prove that might makes right. Next time we won't try to spread civilisation.
>>79125698
bullets
False equivalency.
Also, it's a lot higher than 98%. Don't sell us short.
>>79125757
only took you guys hundreds of years, give us some time then.
>>79125757
FPBP
I've invaded zero countries. Haven't even left the states.
>>79126418
>Ay bruhhh dis like a new colonialism!
>>79125757
FPBP. Keep coming to the west at your own peril.
Establishing civilization and trade in remote and uncivilized backwaters isn't invasion, it's the only right thing to do.
>>79125698
The weak should fear the strong.
>>79126514
This meme is supposed to die already.
>>79126597
No...Clock is clearly ticking
>>79125820
Goddamn that is perfect, but really, colonization was really that terrible?
>Take technology to people who lived on a meal to meal basis
>"Exploit" them by giving them access to wealth they never knew possible before
Meanwhile
>Socially backwards people come to civilized places
>Attempt to change the country to match where they came from, from within
>People do nothing and the natives are now bad because they are white
Yeah, colinization was the worst.
>>79126418
>he doesnt know the difference between a colonial empire and a political hegemony
>>79125698
Third worlders wouldn't have felt compelled to emigrate out of their shit countries if they accepted the White Man is fantastic at running a colony
>>79125698
THEY MURDER MILLIONS OF CHINESE PEOPLE
then complain about being murdered by a chinese person
Wherever britain went they left the country prosperous
Why do you think Qatar isn't a shithole? Because britain was there.
>>79125698
>invade other countries
>spot your country being invaded
>try to stop it
>"B-BUT YOU INVADED US! IT'S OUR TURN NOW!"
That's not how it works, you fucking Somalian niggers.
>>79125698
We went to less-prosperous countries, Pedro. We were basically Klaatu offering wonders beyond their imagining in exchange for shit they didn't use as an alternative to destruction, instead of that hippie shit Bates was trying to push.
The weak should fear the strong
invent modern technology, medicine, civilization
shit skins invent peanut butter
????
>>79125812
>wealth
More like exploitation and wealth extraction
>>79125698
They didnt invade countries, they colonized land. They left that land and made the countries in the process
>>79125757
>What is operation Ajax?
>1 post by this ID
>Complaining about my county getting invaded in the past.
> Go and invade their country.
They are hypocrites.
>>79127433
>peanut butter
But at least it was Aztecs and not Africans.
>>79127604
Found the abo
Its okay my brown mutant friend, maybe a thousand more years of playing with sticks wouldve netted you complex engineering equipment.
>>79127604
right cause native american buffalo bones vs guns, penicillin, and modern science is total wealth extraction
>>79125698
They have the power to invade you and the power to tell you to go fuck yourself if you want to invade them.
stop being a pussy.
>>79127642
>Date 15–19 August 1953
>>79127604
It was us or the chinks. They switched to the chinks and are regretting it, because the chinks do exactly what you are describing without the bringing the things described by the person to responded to.
We are not complaining to the immigrants
We are warning our people
>>79125698
The natives fought back and lost. We're being discouraged from fighting back.
Tell them you do not care. Politics is a power activity and your only concern is to maintain control of your own polity, while they cynically mouth moral platitudes to cover up their desire to accrue power for their own social groups or special interests.
>Complain about colonization and people being removed from their countries
>"We should let refugees and shitskins in!"
>>79127729
shitty meme
>>79125698
-Invade most of the world
-and do a bad job of it
-don't evem take immigrants
-barely even tolerate emigrants
>>79126907
>he thinks the two are mutually exclusive
laughingwhores.jpg.exe
They hate us cuz they ain't us. We have the power to take other countries and the power to take our own country. We are the lion.
>>79127927
They kept him in power until 79 and then sold Iraqis and Iranians weapons, along with the Taliban. What do you think happened to those weapons?
I wouldn't mind the simple "we left" but it's so void of truth. I can't believe people are surprised Iraq is in the state it's in. They supported a mass murderer and turned on him just like they switch sides in 1984.
And then they wonder why people flee from their country. It's wrong to say that our forces just left.
>>79125698
So do they want borders protected or not?
>>79125698
Do people not open history books? Every country invaded every country and almost every country has had slaves of other countries people or their own people.
>>79125698
hehe i am actively colonizing a country and still voted leave as a registered overseas voter
>>79126418
>US colonizing Japan
You can't be this fucking stupid.
>>79125698
>>79125698
>People hundreds of years ago who are not alive and therefore irrelevant invaded 98% of the world's countries
>Entirely different and actually relevant because they are alive right now people complain about immigration today
98% of the worlds countries would have taken a german/jap cock up the ass if not for them
>>79125757
What is america, australia, canada, new zealand, a bunch of tropical islands?
>>79127604
Perfect.
You're arguing that wealth extraction is a bad thing. Imagine this though: One uncolonized land is mostly a desert. Nomadic bands kill each other over small ponds of water without ever realizing there's a huge water reservoir underneath the soil. In come the colonizers who take over the land, unite the nomads under their banner, dig up wells and build aqueducts, and by using the locals as cheap labor teach them how to do all of this themselves. Then, after 40 years, the colonizers go back home with 70 percent of the water while leaving them with 30 percent of something they never had access to before in addition to valuable infrastructure.
That's what the UK and US did.
>>79125698
What counter?
>Should they apologize for winning?
no
>Should they give their country away?
no
Now fuck off back to /b/ with your reddit - tier shit posting. We prefer conversation with substance.
>>79125698
The right word is CIVILIZED
>>79125698
When arrived we found a nation of savages. Literally fucking cavemen. Without written word or more than the most basic of tools. When we left they were utilizing a network of roads and radio towers, of railroads and shipping lines, there people went to the local hospital instead of the local Wiseman. They went to school instead of toil in the hot sun. They were given a purpose instead of carrying on as aimless proto humans.
Now they stand on the shoulders of Imperial giants. Modeling their economies on their so called oppressors. If they really are so persecuted by the ghosts of imperialism, why don't they tear down their civilised society and return to the mud and the grasslands and the stone age savagery that we find their ancestors stumbling through? Because they know how much better life is since we modernized them of course.
>>79126597
>give us some time then.
>US
Canadiancucks think they are Americans.
>>79125698
>invasion and conquering is the same as immigration
the left always keeps surprising me
>>79130583
we do? shit, im doing it wrong
>>79125698
I NEVER INVADED ANY COUNTRY
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>>79125698
Pray we don't do it again.
>>79125698
>What's the counter to this?
We ride together. We die together. Bad boys for life.
>>79125757
Fucking nice
>>79125698
There isn't a counter to it. We're a fucked up country with many mistakes
>>79125698
yeah we "invaded" and it was so terrible under our rule they decided to come live with us.
>>79125820
So you admit the current immigration programs are colonialism?
>>79125698
2 wrongs don't make a right
people have been invading each other for as long as people have existed; now we're better than that.
>>79125698
that was the establishment
we are against those guys you silly cuck
>>79130489
Ours :)
>>79127604
Don't be rama rama m8. It's messin' with your brains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0NcaxmGHo
>>79131902
>2 wrongs don't make a right
Bullshit. But even so, if you were in the wrong, doesn't mean you should lay down and let the enemy fuck you in the ass. Just don't repeat the mistake.
As for Britain, many of the countries colonised by the British were much fucking better off because of us.
>>79125698
most of the "countries" they invaded were actually just continents that didn't have anything remotely resembling actual countries
>>79125698
>98%
that is the biggest faggot lie in the world
>>79125698
>colonialism is bad
>letting immigrants colonize is good
Pick one, liberal scum.
>>79125698
My country has invaded other countries and wrecked shit.
Why should my family and I suffer for this? I have three kids. Should they answer for the history of our country?
UK has brought more good than harm. My country has given the world a language, Common Law and culture.
>>79125698
And I'm sure there was resentment from the indians/aboriginals/etc. So why are leftists surprised when a lot of native brits don't like mass immigration?
>>79134394
Why don;t they understand?
>>79126597
We left while we were dominant. You are not dominant.
You will leave or you will be forcibly removed.
White people make places better.
Brown people make places worse
>>79125698
We aren't trying to tell them how to live. We either kill them or ignore them when we get there.
>>79135144
This. Portugal and England helped Asia so much. I am grateful for what the Portuguese and British Empire did to us; they helped us become first-world.
Surely the US counter to this is that actually no we didn't.
Sure the British empire spread far and wide covering much of the world. But the US only invades shitskin countries for resources.
>>79135144
I know this may sound a little weird...
But the reason why Asian women lust over white men like you is that you guys literally shaped our nations...
>>79125698
Its wrong when they do it so it's okay for me to do it. They should punish thrmselves or else theyre racist. Whites need to destroy themselves or else theyre racist bigots.
>>79126418
By that logic they owe us a thank you. If we didnt go to south korea it would look like north korea. If it werent for the hippy idiots we might have been able to save even more from the horrible dictatorship in the north.
>>79135578
rare flag you got there friend
>>79126216
>We brought them civilization
Mandatory:
glorious nation of zimbabwe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJFRTJgPbU
>>79125698
>bring culture to 98% of the world's countries
>they all demand you leave and then beg to move to your country
UK LEADERS ARE NOW HESITATING.
LET'S GIVE THEM A REASONABLE PUSH:
>>79136412
>>79136412
>>79136412
>>79125698
Haha I don't need a counter to this when I live in the greatest country on earth and don't care what shitskins think of me.
>Make everywhere you colonise have higher living standards and advance their technology by centuries
>Realize the colonies are fucking idiots and will fight you at every step
>Surprised they want nothing to do with other countries
>>79125698
Britain and USA bring civilization to subhumans and foreigners degrade British and American civilization.
>>79130489
There was absolutely nothing in Australia before the British showed up. Aboriginals had nothing, have never had anything and never would have had anything if the British hadn't given to them. Maori's had something, which is why they signed a treaty with the British.
>>79126597
Their countries are better off because of us. They are coming in here now because we feel falsely guilty. Their cultures are more barbaric and less advanced. This will lead to regression, not progression. As a result, these people entering the countries will not get to enjoy the prosperity we do, because they will forego our culture and customs for their own. Adopting our culture, customs, and leadership is what made these colonized countries so much damn better then they were before. So it stands to reason that mass immigration from cultures that are, and this may be difficult to admit, worse than our own will make our countries more like their own. Those who remain in their own countries will still be just as bad off, and those who come here will make their new homes like their own, worsening them for millions of people who never did a single thing to these foreign cultures, yet seem to deserve punishment for the sins of their governments by being bred out and for some, terrorized by criminals that unfortunately flood into the countries. Why do you think Sweden and Germany have no go zones? Why has Germany recently gotten gender segregated train cars and pools? Why are migrants banned from some swimming pools? Why do government officials tell women to cover up, so a not to "provoke" them? Wouldn't want someone to have a "sexual emergency", would we?
>>79125698
wut
the US is one of the few countries that has never colonized any country after invasion and genocided the natives
which is literally what muzzies are doing now
>>79125698
If you think you didn't like getting invaded just wait until we take back our own country.
>>79125698
The counterargument is "So you're saying uninvited immigration is bad?"
>>79125698
Gave India a governing structure and united the country. Yeah we were snobs, but at least we stopped all the in-fighting.
>>79125698
So is immigration good or bad?
>>79125698
Explain them how the European colonies in Africa wanted all the whites out do to oppression. Now all of these countries want us back as it was better being ruled by whites compared to the utter chaos which black leadership brought to Africa.
Ask the average Zimbabwean or Congolese.
So when we come to your place to offer it we are no good, when we leave as a consequence of violence and hatred toward us things turn to shit and you want us back?
That is exactly why we don't need backs around. With the muzzies is more of an ideological thing, we like to be more or less free, I don't need a shit book to tell me what to do. Asian immigration is not a problem in most cases.
![Tyranny_king-washington-assassins-creed-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uJStRQZ.jpg "Tyranny_king-washington-assassins-creed-3[1].jpg")
>>79125698
I do not know about United Kingdom but we have dropped trillions of dollars on the third world over the past century only to have browns still starving, overpopulating, spreading aids ebola zika, alongside blowing us and themselves up.
How long is it going to take "developing nations" to develop? (Hint: Never)
>>79127604
>1 post by this ID
>>79127981
Nah the chinks are only doing it now becuase you whies did it already.
The chinks were actually ahead in the 1500s and they decided they didnt want to colonise the world
>>79126029
If you voted to either of the main parties in any election then you are part of the problem
>>79133102
based dad
>>79125959
>Two wrongs don't make a right regardless.
Don't use this argument because you'd probably be against this statement if it was applied to other situations. This is a hippy belief which they use to justify letting sick fucks get away with murder.
>>79125698
> We won
There will always be winners and losers. Look at history. We won. Losers don't get to make demands or decisions. They are just lucky the white man left them alone.
>>79125698
Easy.
1200 years of the muslim slave trade.
Regardless. Most countries were better under colonial rule, eg, the brits tried to educate the native population rather than wipe it out. The problem with whites, really, is that they didn't utterly crush the natives. Spaniards most certainly did, as do Islamists, and heck, even native americans took slaves.
The immigrants can't seem to liberate themselves...from themselves.
They only used our guns and technology to oppress one another, while we fought fire with fire and liberated ourselves from the redcoats.
Only one thing is good about being a Slav, no immigration. Deus Vult
>>79125698
Wait, who do we still need to get? Fucking 2 percent.
>>79141479
Japan and some Buddhist country, they were white enough that they didn't need our help
>>79140217
>lucky
haha, you talk about history but dont know it
white civilisation imploded by swinging from ultranationalism to ultraliberlism in less than a century and killed its own identity
>>79141630
Even though we technically didn't invade Japan, for all intents and purposes we achieved an invasion after they surrendered in WW2.
the same counter to whites today being blamed for slavery 150 years ago
>>79125698
>Emigrate to mostly white countries
>complain about white people
>>79141630
thailand
although your pedos already invaded it
My response is they are bad at math.
>>79125698
the weak should fear the strong.jpg
>>79141912
Ahhh Thailand
>produced inventor of redbull
>GOAT-Tier martial art Mui Thai
Japan
>awesome innovations and inventions
>badass samurai and karate
Proof God exists and gave us whites some buddies to chill with
>>79125698
it is our culture please respect it.
>>79125698
Fuck off, we're full
>>79127604
>he thinks bringing jobs to a third world shithole is bad
>>79142894
WORK?!!!
SHEEEIT DATS JUSS DA WHITE MAN OPPRESSING US
>but your boss is black
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGA BE AN UNCLE TOM N' SHEIT
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>>79125698
>1 post by this ID
>>79131503
shut the fuck up
>>79125698
This actually isn't hypocritical in any way. If you invade other countries, it's not like you'd be ok with your own country being invaded.
On top of that, it's just not true. How does the US invade "98% of the world's countries"? 98%. Complete horseshit.
>>79126597nigger nations had the best technology of the time imported by the colonizers and they did nothing to advance, and they had plenty of time to establish into a proper nation instead they destroyed what was left.
![2013-9-17-perry[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BGmkxuH.jpg "2013-9-17-perry[1].jpg")
>>79141630
Japan was under our control since the 1850's when Commodore Perry suggest to the it would be a good idea to sign our treaties "or else".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_of_Kanagawa
Somewhere along the line the Krauts turned our waifu against us.
people are oxymorons
>>79125698
I don't give a fuck. If other countries wish to invade us, then they will be served a slap.
There is none it's true. And only the many indigenous peoples they've ruined will understand so don't give me the you've made their lives better crap.
>>79126418
based purely on statistics, im going to guess this is one of those non-white swedes
>>79125757
Excellent
>>79125698
> The people that weren't alive to have a say then shouldn't have a say now because of what happened then
>>79125757
Noice
>>79125698
no counter, the complaining is justified
The immigration comes from the very same people that kicked Britain out of their countries - true irony.
>>79143428
So the only reason Japs are so smart and innovative is because Whites mixed with them?
I guess we are just fallen Angels capable of other-worldy thought after all....
>>79125698
>Theyre invasion brought civilization, culture, and advancement
>Immigrant(illegal) invasion brings backwards and incompatible views from their third world countries.
gee i wonder why they would complain about immigrants
land without any kind of legislation or control can't be considered country
>>79133102
Yours forever, based britbong.
>>79144838
>>79139809
Top lads.
>>79126108
wow still playing civ2...
with an xp emulator no doubt
>>79126418
Japan declared war on the US, not the other way around Svenborg
obligatory
>>79125698
Truth, the new terrorism.
>>79126418
You are retarded as fuck.
