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So basically, the 1% have pulled off slavery?
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So basically, the 1% have pulled off slavery?
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>>79096884
it's called capitalism.

Anyone who thinks everyone should have the same amount of money is a communist.
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>>79097041
FIRST POST FUCKING BEST POST HIT THAT SLAM PIG WOOOOOOOOO
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>>79096884
>no distribution of education among these populations
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>>79096884
Not yet. Just wait until full scale globalization kicks off. Soon not even lawyers will be making six figures.
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>>79096884
>forgets that the 1% pays most of the taxes
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>>79096884
So basically, the left have pulled off complete faggotry
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>>79097442
WOW LIKE I KNOW RIGHT

THEY PAY THE MOST

HELL I JUST HAD A GREAT IDEA

ILL JUST GIVE THEM MORE OF MY MONEY SO THAT I PAY LESS TAXES AND THEY PAY MORE

SEE NOW THATS USIN' YOUR NOGGIN RIGHT THERE
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>>79096884

Most of wealth is in things like financial instruments which the poor shouldn't touch. What you want is income, which is more evenly distributed.
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>>79097442
The 1% make most of their yearly income (usually something around 700k year or more) through capital gains which are taxed at a flat rate in the US.
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>>79096884

And the that 1% is 50% of the Jewish Community goy, and if you are insulting them you are being anti-Semitic goyim.

Oy vey.
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>>79096884
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>>79097977
>>>/Reddit/
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>>79096884
The top 20% pays 70% of the taxes in this country. I'd say they're pulling their weight.
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>>79098179

there is nothing wrong with that

making money on trading is hard, and high taxes on investments just make it even less worth risking your money

in needs to be taxed when you spend it not when you earn it
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>>79096884

DELETE THIS
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>>79097442
>forgets that the 1% makes the heaviest use of tax havens
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>>79096884

>Slavery = having less stuff than other people
>this is what millennials actually believe

This country is so fucked.
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>>79098602
WOW BUD IS IT YOUR 6TH MONTH 4CHAN ANNIVERSARY? SAY HELLO TO THE DONALD FOR ME OVER ON REDDIT BRO
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>>79097041
hope you display the same attitude when waiteresses ask for a tip, faggot.
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>>79098701

"Top 20%" is a trick used by the 1% to take the credit of the other 19%.
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>>79098131
or forget income go by actual consumption
The rich mainly just invest and bid up the cost of luxury goods
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>>79098701
source
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>>79099026
I KNOW RIGHT BRO

I MEAN LOOK, IM TOTALLY FINE WITH 1% HAVING HALF THE WEALTH

AS LONG AS IVE GOT A ROOF AND FOOD IM SATISFIED
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>>79099227
lol? not him but what are you even talking about
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>>79099342
http://www.wsj.com/articles/top-20-of-earners-pay-84-of-income-tax-1428674384
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>>79099021
>still pay the most while using tax havens
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>>79099442
LMFAO BROOOOOOOO
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>>79099227

Go to bed, you're drunk.
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>>79096884
Solution: kill the bottom 80%
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>>79099442
>hi the bill is $xx, tip included
>"lol wat tip this is capitalism i wont pay you this isnt socialism fuck off get a different job this isss capitalism"

alright I went overboard, fuck you.
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>>79096884
The 1%y deserves every penny
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>>79099227
>tipping
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>>79096884
1% drives almost every technological innovation in the last 100 years.
>hurr durr dey de emenies
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>>79097041
FPBP
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>>79096884

Can we get charts like this for other countries? Surely they are all the same. And why shouldn't they be?

Brazil has 54 billionaires and millions of people living in slums.
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>>79100028
>YES YESSSSSSS THE WEALTHY ARE THE VICTIMS HAHAHAHAYYYEEEESSSSSSESSSSSSAAAGGGHHHHHH
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>>79096884
This.

The college liberal bourgeoisie have been tremendous in advancing the corporatist state agenda in putting the proletariat back in their cages. Liberals will never see how unhindered immigration is and will always destroy jobs, the economy, equality, and opportunity.
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1% needs to be publicly slaughtered and their wealth to be used by the government to fund new projects to grow and benefit the country. There is no excuse for such a humongous waste of resources.
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>>79101007
I would say nice b8 but then I remember that this is now a mainstream belief

I'm scared
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>>79096884
Don't they understand that the US has a thing called capitalism, and that this capitalism implies a thing called social mobility.
If you are an intelligent person you can start in the bottom of the barrel needing to resort to food stamps and shit like that to being, at least, part of the top 40%, that is the magic of capitalism, you are not stuck in your social standing.
Do these people that worked all their lives deserve to be taxed to oblivion just because stupid commie SJW's are too dumb or too lazy to work hard?
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>>79099227
I dont tip. I dont believe in it. Learn to fucking type.
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>>79097041
This
It's easy enough to git gud
Put some effort into your life, if your white it should come naturally
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>>79101627
I am not baiting. The 1% is cancer, hardly anyone ever will rise to that status from society because it's reserved for elitist families that made their wealth long ago exploiting common folk to the very end, and will continue to keep this wealth within their elitist families. These are the same globalist 'kikes' if you will that fund shit like the refugee crisis in Europe now.

They are a fucking tumor, they purposely poison everything and make wealth of the blood of millions. Yet you seem to defend them, fucking cuck.

I'm not talking about slaughtering the upper class or rich people here, I;m talking about slaughtering the Rothschild et al.
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>>79097041
>having a more appropriate distribution =/= everyone has the same

It's because of crony capitalism that the 0.1% got that rich in the first place (it's actually the 0.1% that's inflating the 1%).

Man, I dislike communism, but anti-communists are the dumbest people in existence.
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>>79096884
Funny how as one of the 99% I'm able to
>work
>eat
>go to college
>have access to health care
>have a car
>have time off to enjoy the things I like doing

I don't get the hate for people who have a shit load of money. Them being rich doesn't impact anyone else in any meaningful way.

Unless you just want free money because you're a pathetic piece of shit.
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Proud to be in the 4%. Poor people are retarded shit for brains, instant gratification, materialistic, status signalling, money-pissing-away tards and deserve to be serfs. It's the natural order that these worthless, skill-less pigs toil in the mud and serve the rest of us. You should see the shit poor people do. You give them a dollar, they buy a song off itunes. They're worthless idiotic fuckwits. I hope the wealth gap gets even wider. I hope we institute a flat tax rather than "progressive." Poor people are lazy, ignorant gibsapes. The wealthy are so because they work hard, save, invest, and learn how to handle money to make it work for them.

God bless capitalism.
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>>79102069
Ok buddy answer me this. If a communist society does rise up what will stop it from being Soviet Union 2.0, with everyone starving and shit
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>>79102997
You don't have to be a communist to hate house rothschild m8.
Jews with money or power is never good.
Also, it's fundamentally impossible for a communist nation to sustain itself for a long period of time.
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>>79097041
>Anyone who thinks everyone should have the same amount of money is a communist.

Nobody except trolls are saying we should have the same amount of money. But you can't seriously believe that growing wealth and income inequality isn't a problem.

The American post-war (and post-Great Depression) golden age, when fear of Communists was at its height in America, was a time when income disparity between social classes was at its lowest over the past century. The rich still controlled most of the wealth, but everyone in America saw their income grow.

Then something happened after 1980, in every chart of every metric of income or wealth. The gap has been widening ever since.
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>>79102253
>anti-communists are the dumbest people in existence
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>>79102253
>but anti-communists are the dumbest people in existence.
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>>79096884
I'm sure that if you ban the sale of everything you enjoy, but don't need, smartphones, internet services, gourmet foods, etc, that wealth disparity gets much more even.
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So many kikes in here defending jewish economics. Amazing, they've even got the majority of /pol/ convinced they're that their kikery is just and normal.
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>>79102746
same here, i work in a small facility, and watching all the rejects and dumb asses makes me really wonder what the fuck is wrong with these elementary school dropouts.

i thought i was dumb for only getting passing grades all throughout school and college. but these people are straight up retarded in comparison. no life skills, no ambition, no foresight.
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>>79103799
>PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS.

SO U SAYIN IF I BUY LESS FOOD ILL BE A BILLIONAIRE OR A MILLIONAIRE.
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>>79097393
We're already there; most lawyers don't. In law school, they told us that expectations beyond $60K/year (for all but perhaps the top 5 students in the class of 150) were absolutely unrealistic.
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Pretty much. Most billionaires get rich off of government-enforced monopolies.
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>>79096884
Currently trying to make my way from the 15% to the 4% bracket.

Obviously 0.1%er is my ultimate goal :^)
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>>79102253
> more appropriate distribution

progressives are so self deluded that they think they know a more appropriate distribution or they think a committee can decide what is more appropriate
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>>79104208
Lmao the average EE graduate salary from my old school where I got my degree from is like $67k straight out of school
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>>79103465
what anime is this
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That bottom %80 has over 100x more wealth than was achievable throughout human history.

And wealth does not equal direct power over someone. I have land and live a relatively free life. The fact that someone has billions more than me does not affect this. Fuckoff to Venezuala, commie
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>>79104031
Nah, even if you eliminate the CEO's salary from McDonald's and distributed it to all the employees, it would result in something like a $0.14/hr raise.

However, if someone making minimum wage did things like primarily eat lentils, beans, eggs, and other super-basic foods, they'd be much better off without forking over ridiculous profits to Yum! Brands Inc every time they visit a Taco Bell and buy a $2.78 burrito that costs $0.31 to make.

Sorry not sorry that the US has so much nice stuff available to buy and poor people choose to do dumb things with their money. Eliminating welfare would be a first step in helping them wise up.
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>>79097041
>>79097214
>>79100107
>>79101920
eww
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>>79098552
this
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>>79104713
Malcom in the Middle
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>>79104759
WOW YOU HAVE A POINT BRO

I MEAN LIKE YEARS AGO PEOPLE DIED ALL THE TIME FROM THE COMMON COLD

BUT LIKE NOW BRO TODAY WE DONT

I SHOULD GIVE ALL MY MONEY AWAY BECAUSE IM LUCKY SIMPLY TO BE ALIVE

AND IT DOESNT EFFECT ME THAT THE 1% PUSH FOR IMMIGRATION AND LOWER WAGES

I MEAN BRO, WHEN DID IMMIGRATION EVER EFFECT ANYBODY
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>>79096884
Essentially, yes. But naturally in a subtler form.

Wage slavery is an underrated, underappreciated term - The global markets, the politics and the lobbying in-between all act to drive up profits at the expense of the working man - the wage slave. It's an unparalleled level of genius at work - disguising inflation as an increase on wages because the wage slave doesn't know the difference between "wages" and "Real-term wages (inflation adjustment)". Those with intellectual abilities are rewarded more, naturally, but they are still caught in the trap.

The true wealth in this world is just as it has ever been - people. The control of people, the shifting of work output onto "lesser peoples".
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>>79099227
If any waiter ASKED me for a tip, I sure as hell wouldn't. Never heard of something like this in my life.
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anyone saying that it's just capitalism doesn't understand capitalism.

With a perfect capitalistic society the middle class should hold the majority of the wealth and should represent the majority of the population.

Unfortunately we live in a system that is set up in such a way that when supply doesn't equal demand for goods and services that belong to the poor/middle class we allow capitalism to take its course and those businesses fail
But if the market is fucked for a wealth/upper 5% market we have fail safes that prevent those institutions from going under and being the victims of capitalism.

So when the rich fail they get pulled back up and the middle class and poor pay for it, but when the poor or middle class fail they are left to die as the market deemed.
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>>79096884
mo money mo problems
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>>79099291
I can't tell who's jewing who
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It's more like feudalism 2.0, only difference is you don't have legal claim to any land.
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>>79105020
>EFFECT
>EFFECT
Guess you don't have a job that requires proper grammar.
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>>79105100
>perfect
>should
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>>79097041
>mfw opponents of extreme inequality thinks everyone else wants complete equality
No one can be this retarded. No one should be this retarded
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>Be me
>CEO of multi national corporation
>Have to own leading share to avoid buyout
>company does well
>pop magazine extrapolates my wealth by multiplying my share value and company worth
>say I own 43% of America's wealth

I just wanna be normal guys :(
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>>79098733
>making money on trading is hard

clearly, based on the stat in the OP
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>>79101733
American dream is just a dream.
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>>79096884
>"distribution"
it's not handed out you fucking idiots
the people at the top earned it

not everyone can be the ceo you fucking retards
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>>79105347
Would/will if it makes you feel better. Should as in "based on these calculations the economic model prediction should look like this"
Not "the middle class should be the best because I said so".

Though I have found that only Sith deal in absolutes
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>>79105911
That's 2/3rds correct. By creating the business you have begun the journey, but wealth creation comes through wealth generating assets - employees. By that logic although you would have created the business, allocated jobs, it is your employees that -on paper- generate the wealth. You just have the legal means to pick up the cash off the table.
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>tfw wealth as a zero sum game is so ingrained in people's psyche that when they see anyone winning they assume that they must be losing
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>>79105911
>the people at the top earned it
How are there people this dumb?
Hard work alone can get you into the top 10%.
To be in the top 0.1% you need to be born in the right family, have great connections or some other crazy luck most people won't even get close too.
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>>79106180
>Economic and social inequality has no drawbacks at all
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Note how the rich have found out how to dramatically increase production without increasing wages.

And people on here will worship them and give them more when they already have the largest share of this country's wealth in the history of this nation.

Oh, but, uh it's the Jews who are the problem, right? That's not a red herring to deflect from the elite parasitically bleeding this nation dry no matter their religion.
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>>79099708
no? it's more like
"you have provided a good service to me, i was so happy with it with it will give you money

or

"your service was shit, you dont deserve money"
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>>79106517
Patently false. The majority (2/3rds) of the 400 richest people in the USA are self made billionaires.
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>>79097041
Neoliberalism, actually.
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>>79106835
The majority of the richest people don't appear on the official figures because they hide their assets.
They're also jewish.
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>>79097041

This. The important thing is not wealth equality but upward mobility.

Trying to forcefully stop wealth inequality is just going to make everyone poor. That's why despite all of Britain's socialist attitudes the poor here are no richer than the poor in the more capitalist America.
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>>79103154
>Something happened
What happened?
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>>79107063
Merger of investment and commercial banking
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Let's explain this in terms that a Marxist can understand:

>wealth
Wealth for the lumpenproletariat means food and housing.

Wealth for the proletariat means conspicuous consumption, generally of mass-produced items.

Wealth for the bourgeois means conspicuous consumption, generally of "ethical" or "artisanal" products.

Wealth for the capitalist rich means influence, generally via economic means such as starting a company, becoming an activist investor, funding lobbyist groups, and so on.

>where the wealth goes
If you take away wealth from the rich, then either it must go to one of the other groups, or it must go to the state.

If it goes to the state, the state will be inefficient in managing it, because the state is a centralised organ that doesn't understand the individual needs of its citizens.

If it goes to the bourgeois, like it is doing right now, it will be pissed away on "peacekeeping" wars, amnesties for illegal immigrants, endless new programs that don't do much good but do ensure constant employment for the bourgeois, and similar things.

If it goes to the proletariat, everyone will want a TV, but nobody will run a TV factory. The economy will start to collapse, the state will step back in, and shit will be sorted out.

If it goes to the lumpenproletariat, I have no fucking idea what will happen, but it will probably involve crack or meth and will result in a country looking like Africa.

>what do
1. convince the bourgeois that it's better to spend money on things that are actually helpful, then give them money
2. give the proletariat small amounts of money, but not enough to completely fuck up everything
3. either elevate the lumpenproletariat to proletariat or put them somewhere where they can't fuck everything up, like a mental ward
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>>79099227
I'd give them a tip alright. THE TIP OF MY DICK
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>>79107141
Explain

>>79107062
Good luck having upward mobility without some wealth equality
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>>79107243
Great analysis, I like it. Speaking their language, very concise.
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>>79096884
I always wonder with these charts, what they are counting as "wealth"?

Are they talking about all assets owned? Are they including the money they pay out to employees as "their wealth"?
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>>79107243
based kangaroonigger knows what's up
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>>79096884
the bottom ~25% have negative net worth. Are they subtracting the negative net worth form the next 25%?

b) for many of those households, social security and entitlements may be the single most valuable asset owned, but is completely and totally ignored by any of these studies. The net value of a Social Security account, if valued like an annuity is often $500,000+. Why not count that??

If that is counted, the wealthiest 10% (not 1%) have something like 40% of all assets and rest of distribution is much more equal.

Your figures rely on ignoring reality. Is this ignorance or intentional misleading on your part?
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>>79104947
That's my favorite anime.
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>>79106739
>s-stop being so successful you evil capitalists!
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>>79107141
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>>79107062
This. For some time now both cobtent directed at the ghetto and serious intellectual focus has been saying outright that the middle class is immoral, that the only wealth is super-wealth, that it is a moral good that we have a third world style society with economy-controlling patrons distributing favors to the bottom-dwellers who kiss arse best.
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>>79107337
>An investment bank is a financial institution that assists individuals, corporations, and governments in raising financial capital by underwriting or acting as the client's agent in the issuance of securities.

>A commercial bank is a financial institution that provides services, such as accepting deposits, giving business loans and auto loans, mortgage lending, and basic investment products like savings accounts and certificates of deposit.

The two industries, which were once kept separate, were allowed to merge in the 1980s, with the repeal of Glass-Steagull, creating the financial services industry.
This is the only reason why the 2008 crash happened.
This is how (((investors))) make so much money these days.
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Show me the breakdown for blacks in America. You are the top 10% of the world
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>>79103154
>quality of life afforded to all Americans has only increased
>people with free air-conditioned, gas-heated apartments larger than the world's average house and a food stamp credit affording $167/person/month
>and cell-phones
>being protected by the largest military power in the world
>who are given free money to attend vocational school or college
>complain that they don't have as much as another guy while spitting in the face of people in their same city even 30 years ago

decent meme
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Are you kidding? Consumerist debt is so far more efficient than slavery. Why waste resources forcing people to begrudgingly and spitefully work for you when they throw themselves at you feet to apply all of their faculties work for you so that they can have a fancy car and iPhone and a house bigger than they need?
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>>79106835
6: Hired or hands-off investor who didn’t create the business: Meg Whitman

7: Self-made who got a head start from wealthy parents and moneyed background: Rupert Murdoch
Both included in the "self-made" category.

And the ones that did had a ton of luck. You can only have a few Oprah's.
Tons of similar ideas to Zuckerberg's failed, he got lucky.
Winner takes all might be alright with you, but it's hardly desirable for society as a whole.
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Not a zero sum game.

Also, how the fuck did you get slavery out of voluntary capitalism?
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>>79098131
What I'm curious about is lifetime income. Surely it's more important to be concerned about that, but I can't find any relevant data for the life of me.
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>>79098701
We aren't making enough revenue off the rich. We're in debt and the rich benefit from being is this country way more than a poor or middle class person does. Could we at least raise the tax on the rich to around 50 percent?
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>>79107890
The problem is the amount of capital available for savings and investment. The minimum standard of living has increased, but the portion of income that has to be put towards maintaining the minimum standard of living has also increased.
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>>79096884
I guess you never learned about exponentials in school anon
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>>79096884
There's a very simple solution to this shit that retards seem to be staunchly against

How much your job is worth is defined by how much your boss is willing to pay you, there's an upper limit set by the boss, and the lower limit where you will refuse to work (ideally these are the same) as you believe what you get isn't worth the work

However as an owner there's no upper limit. The simple fix is the government needs to tax them higher amounts. The key is it has to be a tax set case by case, a contact made between the business and the government, not a blanket one for all owners. Keep increasing the tax until you reach just before owners are wanting to sell, and there's your sweet spot

Basically capitalism with soft socialist policies (like any sane system) to prevent the gap from becoming too big, and a system to regulate how much an owner/stockholder is worth to his company. Flat taxes is what cause massive disparity.

And Scrap welfare
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>>79096884
Yeah they pulled it off again with their chink/spic slaves.
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>>79108722
>Kill financial services industry
>publicly torture then execute them all
>take money
>use it to automate banking so no one needs to be paid
>use rest to fix economy
I don't see the problem with this
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The wealth of the 1% goes into employing the 99%. If you want power over the economy then prove that you're good at growing the economy by becoming a 1%.
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>>79096884
That proportion is identical the world over and throughout history
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>>79108124
>voluntary capitalism
This lists GPS as a big benefit of capitalism.

GPS was funded by, created by and is run by the US government. It is 100% a government project and has nothing to do with capitalism.
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>>79105154
Jews jewing Jews that didn't know Jews were jewing jews
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>>79109286
It's not referring to GPS satellites, it's referring to the market making GPS receivers into a commodity and lowing the price.

That commoditisation is in and of itself a good process.
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>>79108873
...wat
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>>79103154
Income inequality is a meme until it shows actual detriment.

If the poor/middle class can have a roof, food, and an education, while the richest are the RICHEST in the world with a higher income inequality, it's not the same as everyone starving homeless.and the rich guy has an upper middle class home, with smaller income inequality.
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>>79110761
The financial services industry is where most of the wealth in the US is located.
They perform no function that cannot be automated.
They are unnecessary.
They are also the people behind cultural corruption, such as Soros.
So kill them, take their money, and fix the economy.
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>>79109286
>It is 100% a government project and has nothing to do with capitalism

Oh, you are naturally able to orient yourself based on orbiting satellites, no hardware needed?

the basic structure of the internet was also government funded, but the applications that have changed the way we live were almost all developed privately.
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>>79108124
>Not a zero sum game.
>farmable land is unlimited
>natural resources are unlimited
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>>79108672
>the lowest 7% are afforded the greatest minimum standard of living in the world
>but they can't invest!!
>therefore existing investors are evil

Joshua Sheats actually has a financial plan to retire before age 40 on a Wal-Mart wage. It's pretty extreme, but the fact that it's possible at the actual lowest-common-denominator job means anyone can afford it.

People trade investment opportunity for materialism.

Learn to cook. Stop buying cars where the payments are 20% of your income. Stop buying new cell-phones until you need a new one. Stop renting a house with 3x the square footage you need. Don't buy brand new clothes. Don't buy groceries at Whole Foods. Don't smoke cigarettes. Don't drink a case of beer a week. Don't go on exorbitant vacations every year. Don't buy Starbucks every day (or ever). Don't fill your house with useless junk. Don't waste money on "collectibles" to be part of a "fandom."

You're not oppressed. You're just stupid.
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>>79103154
The US was building the majority of its modern day infrastructure pre Mexican immigration. Of course people saw a boom in their income. Alsor social programs didn't exists.
What do you know anyways you leaf??
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>>79111043
I should also add that they have crashed the global economy several times.
Basically, if you want to solve the wealth problem, don't look at taxes or the 1%.
Look at the financial services industry.

>>79111354
>George Soros is an existing investor
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>>79097041
>tfw there's still people that understand
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>>79096884
Economic inequality exists because human inequality exists.
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>>79098733
>making money on trading is hard

No it isn't. It's actually quite easy to make money if you already have money. Not all "trading" is speculative.
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It's hard to get rich but it's easy not to be poor.

There's nothing wrong with being lower middle class. You can have all your needs met and still have enough to have fun weekends or give yourself an occasional treat. With the internet you really have enough to keep yourself entertained for free for all eternity. The problem with liberals is that they're jealous and hate the thought of people living large because they were either born into it or are just plain smarter and harder working than them. Both insinuate that they're superior than them, and that makes them envious.
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>>79108124
>pricing = value
Yeah m8, you could give me a fucking famous painting that was once worth a ton of money.
But you can't eat it or live in it.
Smartphones are nice, doesn't mean that they're better than a decent wage.
I don't even own one because even now I don't think they're worth the price.
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>1 post by this ID
>130 replies

This is sad.
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>>79106180
People think they are losing because THEY ARE losing. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
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>>79111890
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>>79111481
>an investor is evil
>therefore all investors are evil

there are members lower class that want to murder all white people that exist right now

I guess they're all evil

>>79111890
or maybe the turning point happened when we essentially automated the necessities of life and we switched entirely to a materialism-based economy
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>>79112114
>or maybe the turning point happened when we essentially automated the necessities of life and we switched entirely to a materialism-based economy
>1980 was the repeal of glass steagull
>also accompanied by more mass deregulation of finance
>no one connects the dots
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>>79111890
The person who made this chart is fucking retarded. We've only had more government regulations and interventions since the 50s. How can you say more regulations represent free market capitalism? How can you even say Monetarism represents free market capitalism when monetarism wanted the Federal Reserve to control interest rates? This fucking strawman is ridiculous.
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>>79112747
In a Keynesian economy which has a fiat based currency, government regulation that is independent of business, so no lobbying, is good.

In an Austrian economy, which has some sort of standard based currency, regulation is universally bad, even if it comes from independent sources.
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>>79112081
>le keynesian economics is still around meme
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>>79112954
Friedman wasn't even an Austrian. And Mises wasn't even an anarchist. You have no idea what you are even talking about.

>In a Keynesian economy which has a fiat based currency, government regulation that is independent of business, so no lobbying, is good.
We've been using Keynesianism for the better part of a century. Keynesianism does not work. How is government regulation a good thing?
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>>79113582
>Keynesianism does not work.
In a non-facistic country.
Facism and Keynesian economies go hand in hand. You really need to control EVERY aspect of the people to make Keynesian theory work well.

>How is government regulation a good thing?
Because a Keynesian economy literally depends on crushing the freedom of the people to keep the numbers in check.
An Austrian economy controls the numbers to keep the people in check.
Their mechanics are completely different and work in different governments and situations.

Also, I wasn't defending the picture, just clarifying why regulation is necessary in a Keynesian economy.
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>>79098733
the capital markets exist so that the excess profit will be reinvested into the consumer markets and allow them to grow

the problem right now is that most of that money doesn't make it into the consumer level, it gets repackaged and rethrown in the financial markets
TIME had a good article on it
http://time.com/4327419/american-capitalisms-great-crisis/
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>>79096884

yes, the ((((((((((((((((((((1%))))))))))))))))))))
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>>79099406
I am, because my ancestors didn't
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>>79113920
>In a non-facistic country.
That makes it a moot point to defend it with that argument in the context of the US.
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>>79114227
>That makes it a moot point to defend it with that argument in the context of the US.
I just like clarifying things.
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>>79113920
>Because a Keynesian economy literally depends on crushing the freedom of the people to keep the numbers in check.
An Austrian economy controls the numbers to keep the people in check.

explain plz. Also which is better in your opinion?
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>>79107243
wtf this aint a shitpost i want my money back
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>>79096884
> people willingly trading things is bad
While you try to get people down to your level, how about we try to get the bottom 1% up to their level. Hell, it's been done before. Would you really want to live like a king in the past? I won't even have access to half the things that will be offered in a minimum wage job
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>>79105694
prooooooooofs
: ^ >
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>>79097041

I don't think everybody should have the same amount of money, but there should absolutely be an upper limit.

Because

1. It is simply unethical for one person (or small groups of persons) to accumulate so much wealth far beyond their needs for living.

2. It is destabilizing when so few have that much wealth, because wealth empowers, and so much power 10:1 will corrupt somebody to seek even more power by depriving it from others.

Point #2 is absolute fact, as it has occurred within every form of government and state within every country of the world.
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>>79099227
>Here's a tip. Get a real job!
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>>79114449
>explain plz
It's not exactly complex.
Because currency is variable in a Keynesian economy, and it depends on business cycles, you have to make sure no one abuses the system, like the banks did in 2008, where they cause the housing boom, which also massively increased the resultant downturn.

Whereas an Austrian economy ideally has a completely flat currency, and works on continual expansion, rather than cycles, so that no one can "cheat the system".
This makes regulation unnecessary.

> Also which is better in your opinion?
Depends on what you want to do, and how your country's economy is going to operate.
A biznocentric economy like the one we have now is much better in a Keynesian economy, but this causes stagnation in industry, the sciences, and other productive fields. Not to mention the psychological problems that come with a biznocentric culture.

An Austrian economy, or at least one similiar to it, is best suited for a nation on an exponential path of continued industrial and scientific development.
Personally, I like the Austrian one, as setting up a proper Platonistic fascist government to spearhead research is quite difficult, and an Austrian economy is much more capable of keeping itself afloat in the mean time.
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>>79107243

That's a good post. Today an aussie didn't shitpost.
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>>79096884
more like top 10-15% are fucking over the bottom 80-85%.

It needs to be a entire upper class genocide event.

Lawyers, post-doc social science, GS-10 and above gov officials, etc.
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>>79107243
I didn't subscribe to ozzie posting for this.

Normal shitposting resume now.
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>>79107243
Capitalism destroys the bourgeoisie/middle class though.
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>>79111354

My nigger. I plan to retire by 45 at latest. I've already done the math and factored in both inflation and taxes, with generous misc allowances and travel/luxuries budgets. On the most conservative earnings estimates.

Normies piss money away, and instead of taking responsibility for being morons they blame "da man" for keeping them down. Poor people are just niggers, which is probably why they breed with and act like them. If you live in the US and are poor, you're simply wasteful and stupid.
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>>79111354
Well. Fucking. Said.
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>>79113920
>Facism and Keynesian economies go hand in hand. You really need to control EVERY aspect of the people to make Keynesian theory work well.

Do you even know what Keynesian economics is? Seriously I don't think that you do.
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>>79116331
Probably not to a full extent.
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>>79115913

>kill all the doctors, engineers, and professionals
>left with a bunch of welfare gibsapes and burger flippers

Great recipe for nigeria.
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muh 1%

no one cares faggot. federal reserve and kike banks can literally type zeros into their accounts at will. has nothing to do with muh rich. has to do with government power.
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>>79099002
>https://www.tumblr.com/search/diversity
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>>79103154

Actually looks to me quite like the diverging began around the mid 1970s; it simply became overly apparent by the 80s.
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>>79096884

>free trade made those 1%ers richer by giving them the ability to move labour to shitholes

>feminism flooded the labor market with needed lower quality workers

>common core and leftist education create less quality workers

>over regulation, especially environmental makes companies less competitive with places like china where they don't give 2 fucks about pollution

>open boarders bring in cheap illegal labour

>corrupt banking cartels have brought inventing interest rates to all time lows while borrowings at all time highs (not to mention all the fees that didn't even exist back int he day when you actually banked with a person and not a machine)

>etc etc


global Marxists created this situation, not capitalism
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>>79099227
I only tip if my waitress is nice and good looking. As long as my food gets to me relatively quickly I'm good.
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>>79117310
>marxists have been in charge of the global CAPITALIST economy for over 70 years

What the fuck am I reading?
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>>79096884
That's nice OP. Now show us the spending power graph.
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>>79114902
1.) why?

2.) Wealth has nothing to do with it. Power needs not wealth to exist, just ask Mao.
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>>79117533

I'm being polite but yes

maybe you'll be more comfortable if I just call them Jews... frankfort school mothercukers

But marxism has never been about true "equality" its about a select elite hyper capiltists
making mad bank by rendering the rest of society literally unable to compete with brainwashing
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>>79096884

Its not slavery when the 80% are mostly mal-formed, incapable trash that should have died in infancy and instead are living on borrowed time from the producers who actually operate society.
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>everything in this trivial little shit-flinging festival is based on the expectation that our comfy civilization will forever be the way it currently is
>when the power grid dies, all the millions of dollars "hard-working" citizens have built up is digitally stored in banks and is now worthless
>everyone in cities starve to death

In the end "making money" is yet another hobby like weightlifting or playing an instrument: some people live for it, others don't give a shit as long as they have something else to care about. Anyone defending it to this extent is defending kike greed, but none of it matters anyway because nobody wants to step back and see the big picture.
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>>79117310

Capitalism and Marxism are both materialistic at their core. Why else would Jews be attracted to both of these ideologies?

Notice how in both Capitalistic and Marxist societies Jews try to stamp out spirituality. That's because they don't want people to be happy through their own ends, they want people to be dependent on them for their happiness. It is a matter of control
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>>79119369

That's assuming that the world of matter and spirit aren't one and the same.
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