>Marijuana
who doesn't love to smoke a bowl?
>who doesn't love to smoke a bowl?
I don't.
And I will never use this kinds of argument to promote the decriminalization of Marihuana.
>women right to choose
Not even a month after the Death of Michael Brown, 700+ black babies were aborted.
>>78981356
Can I buy some off you then Pablo
>>78981073
I don't use any illicit substances but I don't think they should be illegal to posses or use personally.
Right to voluntary euthanasia. It's a better way to go being sent off with a proper goodbye to the ones who know you than doing it alone in secret.
Agreed
It's my only liberal belief
>>78981073
Universal Healthcare
>Legal weed
>Protecting the environment
>Pro-choice
Other than that, I'm pretty conservative
> implying prohibition is anything other than typical leftist knee-jerk authoritarian idiocy
I think it should be legal with age limit like liquor
>>78981073
I think weed is the biggest meme for edgy kids out there.
It doesn't do shit and I've tried a lot times, cigarettes are much better
>>78981073
I don't. I smoked it a few times a week, usually weekends, for about 8 months. Every time I smoked it I got extremely paranoid, hated myself, and became morbidly depressed. My mind would race a million thoughts a minute and I hated everything about myself and my life.
I'll stick with LSD and mushrooms.
>>78983529
It's not knee-jerk. The pharmaceutical industry, among others, are paying large sums of money to prevent the legalization process from taking off at the federal level. It has nothing to do with feels, at least not anymore.
>>78983800
Stop smoking bunko then, banana monkey.
>>78981073
>pro decriminalizing drugs and funding rehab clinics instead of the for profit prison systems
>environmental conservation
>pro choice
>pro science
>>78981073
Gay marriage.
My best mate is a queer and wants to get married to his bf. I have no problem with this.
They're both top lads.
I'm socially conservative and am married with kids. But if my benderbros want to marry, then good luck to them.
>>78983997
Marijuana has no medicinal benefits. Temporary alleviation of symptoms does not make marijuana a medicine. Heroin is a potent painkiller and can be used as such, yet few people will advocate for heroin to be legalized because of its 'medicinal benefits'.
Marijuana is simply another tool in facilitating a complacent and ignorant nation.
>>78984341
*yawn*
Here's your (You)
>>78981073
>born degenerate
>raised by single mother with appearances made by alcoholic father
>in trouble my whole youth
>in and out of foster care
>pic up many bad habits
>one is weed
>eventually realize this life is not for me
>I want to walk with Christ and make something of myself
>drop most of my bad habits but one
>can't quit smoking weed
>not physically addicted but day sucks without it
I hate myself so much for still smoking
I'm wasting so much money on this stupid drug
It doesn't even get me high anymore it's just makes me sleepy
>>78984341
>Comparing Marijuana to Heroin
Heroin is substantially more addictive. On top of that, you don't have a detox process like you do with Heroin. Coming off of Marijuana is no different than caffeine, and less worse than alcohol addiction.
Just becauae im against the legalization of weed and people who smoke it doesnt mean ill stop smoking it to myself
>>78981073
stewardship of the earth and animals
localism and sustainability
anti-materialism and anti-capitalism (though i'm also anti-socialism)
>>78983421
Yep
>>78981073
>who doesn't love to smoke a bowl?
I actually don't care for pot and I find it annoying the way potheads are always aggressively trying to get me to smoke with them. I legitimately don't enjoy the sensation of being stoned and don't get why people spend money to feel like that. However, whatever you want to do for recreation is your own business as far as I'm concerned, so I guess I'm more or less on the same side as the liberals on the legalization issue.
I also support:
>abortion
If anything, more people should be encouraged to have abortions, particularly low income single women with drug problems.
>fag marriage
I don't think it's a constitutional issue that the Federal government should get a say in one way or the other, let the states sort it out for themselves. If Vermont wants to let their fags marry each other and Texas doesn't that's up to them. As far as the issue itself goes, I don't really have a problem with it anyway.
>>78984341
>Netherlands
>against Marijuana
Marijuana is a right to people, it's no more harmful than alcohol and it's not addictive. Anyone who says they've gotten addicted to weed a fucking liar
>>78985180
Also Birth control. Conservatives don't want abortions but they also don't want birth control, I've never understood that
>>78981073
>Recreational drug legalisation
I'd never use any of them myself, but the war on drugs is a massive fucking failure in nearly every respect
>Abortion rights
Though people who use abortion as their primary method of birth control should be forcibly sterilised, and anything after a certain amount of gestation (end of first trimester at the very latest) should only be done if there's a reasonable risk to the mother's life
>Prison reform
Prisons should be focused on rehabilitation, not punishment. This is especially true for the USA. That said, we do need some prisons that are purely for punishment - shove the people who have no chance of rehabilitation or repeated recidivists in there.
>Gay marriage
If two dudes want to get hitched, fuck it, let them.
But don't force churches or private business to cater to them. I don't know why you'd want to give your business to people who don't want you there anyway.
>Subsidised healthcare
I say "subsidised" because "universal" is too broad. If you've been smoking a pack a day of ciggies since you were 12 and you get lung cancer at 70, the taxpayer should not be paying that bill. However, if you're an average 30 year old who's never smoked or been working mines or anything like that and you get lung cancer, you shouldn't have to go bankrupt to live. This is easily one of the trickiest things to balance properly.
>>78985950
The religious crowd simply doesn't want too much pre-marital sex. Preventative and reactive measures to the consequences of sex (in their eyes) seem like a good means of control on devious behavior.
>>78985950
Conservatives generally aren't against birth control, they're against subsidised birth control
In some cases the birth control pill can have other medical uses, but generally speaking it's used for stopping pregnancy from occurring - and if that's your fucking goal, the taxpayer should not have to pay for that. Shit, the pill isn't even very expensive anyway. If you want birth control, condoms are cheap as fuck, and you can even get them for free in a lot of places anyway
>>78981073
Not everyone wants to.
But anyone who is sane recognizes drugs aren't a criminal justice issue. They're a public health/education issue.
>>78986309
But is that just based on their "deeply" held religious beliefs? Because if so that's not a good enough reason
>>78986466
It's a lot less expensive than caring for a human on welfare, so pick your poison
>>78981519
Fuck man. That like a whole prison block in 30 years those boons saved us.
How can you not be pro abortion?
>>78986898
The idea is that you don't give them welfare just for plopping out a kid either
Environmental regulation
Workplace safety laws
Consumer protection laws
>>78987012
>darwinian concepts in a coddled world
noooope
>>78981356
I agree that "i love me sum weed mayne lol" is a fucking stupid argument for decriminalizing marijuana, but decriminalizing marijuana would do a lot to shut down the cartels and reduce government spending, while opening up a new industry.
If it's treated like alcohol I have no issue with it being legal.
>>78987012
The welfare state unfortunately is here to stay, so to look at it that way the government spending not even one percent of one percent to give some slut birth control is a much better alternative
I smoke on the way to work, on both 15's, and at lunch. (well I have a weed vape. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH TOBACCO JUICER BULLSHIT)
I am literally the fucking superstar of my workplace. Don't believe the memes. It really is the miracle drug for some people, just how I can walk into a casino and have zero urge to gamble, for me the cannabis is different.
I'm never chasing a high, it's like nicotine, either I've had it or I haven't. Unlike say... alcohol, where I feel the need (once I've had that first drink) to consume allllll alcohol that has ever been produced by man, on earth; ever, and then show off my dance moves.
>>78985813
Anyone who gets addicted to weed would just as easily get addicted to video games, porn, stamp collecting, or any other fucking thing. To get addicted to weed is a failure of the individual, it's not caused by anything in the plant itself.
I think weed should be legal, let the fucking useless be useless.
>>78987012
Without welfare, the unwanted children of poor parents will probably just end up becoming criminals. There's a cost to society no matter what you do.
>>78987756
>stamp collecting
Fucking kek
>>78985813
You can get addicted to anything. If someone can get addicted to playing video games or eating a certain type of food, then I'm pretty sure someone can get addicted to fucking weed. All of the people I know who smoke marijuana live the most lazy, degenerate lives I have seen because they love smoking it and keep coming back to it EVERY. DAY.
>>78983421
Came to say this, I love the national parks but business and the environment can be a tricky subject.
>>78984075
>pro science
Nice meme
>>78981073
>abortion
Less blacks and single mothers soaking up my tax dollars
>>78987997
just start executing criminals again
>>78984722
Learn to grow; get a job in a state where you can. Growing is not nearly as expensive.
Socialized public services
>>78984135
Fuck your Bros, sorry but letting gays marry does more damage than good to a conservative society. Don't be selfish, just let the gays get similar tax benefits.
>>78988982
Looking at what the coal industry has done to regions of WV, that's an example of egregious behavior.
But too much regulation and you can stifle economies...
>>78988897
I have a job, attend college with a 4.0 GPA, and workout daily, and if I want to smoke up when I get home, that's my business. Most weed smokers I know are just normal everyday people
>>78985813
>it's not addictive
And yet all the people who smoked heavily in from my high school are jobless mid-20 somethings living off the dole.
>>78981073
Public Healthcare
Not policing what people can or cannot do in the privacy of their own home
Legalizing [some] drugs
>Everyone should have access to healthcare
>Some form of safety net
>Marijuana legalization, other drugs still banned but instead of incarcerating the users send them to rehab and execute drug dealers and manufacturers
>Women deserve equal opportunities if they can do the job as good or better than a man
>Gays are ok as long as they aren't fags about it
>There should be some form of gun reform (project exile so I guess that's a right wing)
>Separation between church and state
Weed keeps the plebs calm but at this point I don't want them to be calm, I want them to be mad.
>>78989445
Oh yeah and
>Neoconservative are the absolute worst
>>78989445
>execute drug dealers and manufacturers
maximum over bait
I'd rather drink to get fucked up than smoke weed, but I completely disagree with the war on drugs. It hurts more than it helps. On the other hand, mandate drugs and you're going to have a hell of a lot more violent robberies on your hands.
>>78981073
Against cap and trade policies.
regulation of business ethics (someone has to tell them they cant hurt people)
>>78989174
Initial setup is the biggest cost. Few hundred bucks at most, depending on how you want to set up, or how big.
Buddy did an 8 plant grow for a few hundred. Had everything to make the greatest weed I've ever smoked.
Running costs, assuming you're using the proper light, and the ballast to operate said light, will be about the same as running a computer for the same amount of time.
Not a lot, but it is something that is noticeable on your power bill. As that's one of the ways the catch larger scale home growers.
And that's the end of my cost analysis.
Have a good day, stay classy.
Weed shouldn't be legal for recreational use, but should be as easy to get through a pharmacy as extra strength pain killers.
Just my two cents worth of sense.
>>78989633
How is that bait
>>78981073
OP degenerate af
>>78987583
>shut down the cartels
Their crimes goes beyond just selling weed, and they gained an army. Do you think they are going to cuck themselves like that?
>>78981073
Indeed weed > alcohol.
Weed just like alcohol should be legal for recreation purpose - it helps stump the criminal underground market which will exist regardless - because it's in human nature to desire drugs.
And weed is one drug which if you have access too - won't make you desire anything else.
>>78989445
>>Separation between church and state
kys
>>78989370
>tries to disprove that a substance isn't addictive by citing people who smoked a lot, wasting their money and time, and who consequently couldn't get jobs
I mean, I see your flag, but at least put some effort into your shitposting m8
Have given up the herbal jew.
2 weeks clean.
Mind is clearer. Feel like less of a degenerate. Getting high should be treated the same as getting drunk.
Who gets drunk every day? Alcoholics.
Who gets high every day? Cannabis addicts.
It may have its medical purposes however.
>>78983421
>>Protecting the environment
Also this, just not in the way my country is doing it (taxing co2 emissions in an already green country with million people)
>>78989370
> implying weed doesn't redpill people about being a wagecuck
fuck jobs nigga
>>78981073
Me.
Fuck weed.
I only do speed and only listen to trucker metal.
>>78983800
sorry, do you need it dipped in gasoline like the rest of your drugs? go get some from columbia retard
>>78989445
Sorry friend, this thread is for conservatives only.
>>78989767
I believe that we should be a secular state as the founding fathers intended. Although I also think it's a part of our history and culture and references to god should be kept on money, buildings and other things. I just don't think we should pass legislation based on Christian, Jewish, muslim, etc teachings.
>>78983992
Dude it's another level what you describe and it's surely not for ordinary people - so don't give you opinion as if it comes from a normal person minding the greater good for society.
Psychedelics will always be part of the underground world, there got to be a group of people which mix it up in their culture... world wide - it's impossible to be otherwise, there's a drug at least in every forest around the world.
>>78989370
They smoke weed all day because their lives are fucked up, not the other way around
This is the case with most drug abuse btw, just that a lot of them make it way harder to get shit back on track once you're down at the bottom, and in that sense marijuana is probably one of the least dangerous ones
>>78989695
>Drugs are fine yo
>but kill the people who make/sell them lawl
>>78989770
Im not trying to disprove anything, its just a stunning coincidence that all the spuds that smoked heavily and now worthless sacks of shit that mooch off my tax money.
>>78989915
Ok thanks for the heads up
>>78989801
No rational weed smoker - does it everyday. Wasn't that obvious that you should not do it?
>universal basic wage for everyone, instead of only paying women who have children
>social housing, the free market should not be applied to property as it is a) necessary for survival and therefore coducive to slavery, and b) finite and therefore much harder to satisfy supply leading to even more unmerited unequality
>healthcare for all
>right to take drugs coupled with extensive education in high school regarding risks
>right to kill yourself
>right to generally do what you want as long as it does not destabilize the foundations of society
>>78981073
I like women
anywhere else on the internet and that would be ok to say but here on /pol/ it feels like shitting the bed
>>78990007
Yeah marijuana and everything around it is fine, make it like cigarettes, keep the other drugs like crack and heroin illegal but instead of incarcerating the users send them to mandatory rehabilitation while the drug producers and sellers should be executed.
>>78990007
>Drugs are fine yo
>except he said they would still be banned
>>78990076
tl;dr hes a socialist
>>78981073
I knew a farmer in humboldt who sold 50 pounds of weed to snoop dogg.
>>78981073
Snoop is on the trump train tho.
A cool idea I have is to pay whites to have kids and pay minorities to get sterilizations
>>78981073
Animal Welfare
>>78981073
I don't smoke and I think its a waste of time (usually makes me unproductive for an entire day unlike causal drinking). But if someone else wants to I don't give a shit.
Also Gay Marriage, I'd prefer it be called Civil Unions just so marriage could remain "religious" and no church should be forced to do the ceremonies (if they want to that's fine but they shouldn't have to).
>>78990153
This
And the preservation of wildlife and the environment. Though I do feel like preservationists do try to play God sometimes, getting in the way of the natural progression of things.
>>78987093
this
>>78990311
What? Since when?
>>78989122
>having abortion be illegal in a country with a substantial black/hispanic population
It's pretty much a necessity at that point, conservatives fail the pragmatism test
>>78987707
I've lived a few years of my life constantly high. They were great moments, and less great ones, but I'll say that I was totally fonctional. That said, I hit a wall at some point and using just caused me to have panick attacks. Now I'm sober all the time except the time have a few beers on occasions, and I must say I don't feel compulsion to get drunk when I drink, though I also felt that way about pot, so maybe that's just who I am.
>>78990341
Give poor people 7k to get sterilized. Imagine all that crime prevented after a couple decades?
>>78986961
>>78981519
honestly there's nothing that messes with me more than abortion
its probably done more good for the world than anything else, but it just seems so evil when i think about literally anyone I know getting an abortion.
>>78981073
>Abortion
>Lgbt should be able to do whatever, idc. Though i am against shitheads who chop off their 6 year old son's dick and turn him into a girl before he can even think for himself
>I generally don't care about the whole "christians baking gay cakes" ordeal, even though i think business should be able to do what they want. Its a non-problem and there's a million bones we can pick that aren't part of the civil rights act
Universal healthcare is good
War is bad
Pro choice
Gay marriage is fine
Decriminalization of drugs (it makes no sense that you can do xanax and drink alcohol, but you can't take mushrooms or smoke weed)
I'm not really a conservative anyway. Both parties are hypocritical. I want smaller government = ban gay marriage, ban abortions, ban drugs, throw a ton of people in prison, create a police state
>>78990393
Ill find a link or something. Gimme a min.
>>78983992
>My mind would race a million thoughts a minute
>ill stick with LSD
does not compute
>>78990508
It's one of those things I have to turn a blind eye to. It does a great service to our society but it's so evil and vile to me. I choose to ignore it
>>78990515
He aged like milk
>>78990359
I'm okay with marriage, but I don't see the point of it. Almost every marriage i've ever seen failed, so if the gays want to join that misery go ahead
>>78990567
Can confirm. Weed makes me incredibly uncomfortable and paranoid/anxious. Acid just makes me really happy (had a few bad trips though and they were way worse than weed)
>>78988982
I'm sort of a Rooseveltian; protecting the consume market is crucial, keep things competitive by trust busting, no subsidies, no bailouts. And yes the national parks/state parks are a great asset for cultural reasons.
Roosevelt recognized early on that the US had no great cathedrals,castles, etc. due its recency on the world stage but it did have a culture which should be protected. That culture was a culture of individualism with an appreciation of the frontier; whether that frontier be the old west, a new business venture, technological advancement, or space it didn't matter so long as men had the space needed to explore and feel in touch with wild things.
So yes I agree; if I had to define a political alignment I'd say I was a Nationalist Capitalist, willing to take the fruits of capitalism as far as they can go until they infringe upon the needs of the nation. But the needs of the nation are much much fewer than any modern "progressive" would suggest, but also far more sacred.
>>78981073
-Pro-choice before the 3rd trimester.
-Space travel and colonization. (Even though Conservatives indirectly are the ones that fund it.)
-Environmental protection and preservation of US National Parks. (Sort of bipartisan.)
-Protection of non-public sector unions.
-Better pay for teachers.
-Better infrastructure and power grids. (Bipartisan but only Trump talks about it.)
>>78983421
My nigga
>>78990660
still crushes more puss than you
>>78990393
Ehh.. if you want more look up snoop dogg trump on jewgle
>>78983421
>Legal weed
>Protecting the environment
>Pro-choice
> is conservative
Ok...
>>78990954
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/snoop-dogg-on-donald-trump-he-says-a-lot-of-sht-that-makes-no-sense/
Here's an actual story I don't know if that quote is real or not. He seems on the fence about Trump, I bet he will vote for Trump in private but refuse to endorse.
>>78990954
>Make America Dank Again
Why hasn't this been meme'd all over worldstar and twitter to get the young black vote
>>78989260
how is settling down and getting married a bad thing. you would rather have promiscuous gays?
>>78990173
How would you seperate the junkies who deal(usually too friends that are already junkies) to support their habit?
Death? Or do you give them drug tests/psychoanalysis to see if they're addicted and offer drug test?
Lets say for smaller quanties just to be safe they aren't kingpin addicts(rare but it happens).
>>78991244
let's get this shit trending boiz
>>78991239
You're probably right. I'm sure he isn't a fan of Clinton. And Bernie's weed policy, he probably doesn't care. It's not like that guy has any problems getting pot. Plus, he has money. So supporting democrats is unlikely. I'm sure a lot of people are closet trump supporters.
>>78989741
up until prohibition the mob did small time rackets and crimes with the occasional big time bank robbery. It was until prohibition that the mob started making big money to the point that they could corrupt local judges and cops. Prohibition literally turned parts of the US into what Mexico looks like today.
>>78981073
I support the encouragement of boys to turn into qt traps
>>78990173
Death penalties are insanely expensive and are not particularly effective for deterring crime. In Malaysia they have the death penalty for drug trafficking and manufacturing and yet they are still hotbeds for illegal drug production and export. Furthermore how would this method be addressed when under arrest ?
Would someone who enjoys lsd/MDMA be sentenced to death for buying in bulk instead of single doses, would someone middle-manning a few pills for a friend still get the death sentence, could someone be arrested for simply owning the constituents required to produce drugs even if they are common household goods, why should someone who produces high quality "clean" drugs and provides information on the dose quantity and warnings about purity/strength be sentenced to death in the same way as johnny jerk-off who sells i-25 as cocaine ?
Why not employ a regulation system where dealers can manufacture for industrial or recreational purposes to maintain a high quality level and gain the rewards of taxation ?
>>78990174
>users go to rehab with no criminal charges or jail time
>Dealers and producers get death penalty
k
>>78990947
Who doesn't ?
>>78991748
I don't have the link but there is something like 20-30% of celebrities are closeted Trump supporters. I know Ice Cube sort of gave the same half endorsement of Trump that Snoop just gave. They have problems with their tone and some things, but at the end of the day they like them more than Clinton or Sanders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=367psk5ZdpU
Also didn't Trump say he wanted to federally decriminalize pot and make it a state to state issue?
>>78992267
Also the vid makes it look like Ice Cube gave a full endorsement, but they cut him off. He says he understands why he appeals to people, but that he doesn't fully support him.
A great divide and conquer tactic Trump supporters could continually meme would be Clinton's "super predators" line, I think if that line got spread far and wide enough (hell make it a hashtag) her reputation with blacks would start to wane.
>drugs
>abortion
>national parks/forests
I doubt there's anything else. Also I'm not above voting against my interests just to make liberals cry.
>>78992161
>death penalty for intent to sell
It would work just as it does now, having X amount of drug (more than one could plan to recreationally use) would be considered holding with intent to sell, ie traffic. Which iirc is already a felony in the states, while a normal possession charge is a misdemeanor.
Or we could go Edge mode, and say the possession of all illegal substances is punishable by fireing squad, I mean, cant they just not break the law? Bullets are actually pretty cheap for non civilians. :^)
>>78993682
If you are making no changes to the application of law, why bother to change the punishment ?
Most traffic-able quantities will get you 5-40 years on the first offence, that is already an incredibly lengthy amount of time.
And why the fixation on a death penalty, in most places in america straight up murdering a motherfucker in public wont get you death (besides maybe suicide by cop). Do you believe that selling or manufacturing drugs is a crime worse than murder ?
Do you not think there will be issues when dealers know they will be sentenced to death in court and would be more likely to try and kill the arresting officer as they have nothing to lose.
I know that if i was going to be arrested for something with the death penalty, i'd be doing pretty-much anything to escape it.
