https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYl845GORmM
>/pol/ is always right
>>78966479
I wrote my dissertation on this a couple of months ago and I put so many references in and researched it so well that they had to admit it was good and give me a 1st. Took hundreds and hundreds of hours of research but it was worth it. The feedback was about 10 times longer than anyone else in my class though, all negative apart from the very last line but was forced to give me a great mark. Felt good man.
>/pol/ won't rejoice in this
>>78967226
What exactly did you mention in your doc?
>>78966479
I can only understand every third word.
>>78967619
Yes, she's Polish, Jewish and a chef of word salad.
>>78967226
I need to read it. Too lazy to do the research on this stuff.
>>78968032
This one too.
>>78967226
Well it was a seriously long piece of writing but a lot, basically:
Started with Frankfurt School. Western Marxism etc.
Moved into Marcuse transferring it to the US.
Equality riots using ideas based on Critical Theory transferred by Marcuse.
Also talked about victim culture, The Fabian Society being evolutionary socialists, the splitting of socialism into evolutionary and revolutionary and a bunch of other stuff.
It's actually easy to prove once you do the research.
>>78967492
Like a doughnut I accidentally replied to my own post, check above this for actual reply.
>>78967229
What is there to rejoice about exactly?
>>78968279
>Equality riots using ideas based on Critical Theory transferred by Marcuse.
You were able to find indisputable proof Marcuse and the FS were behind the 60s movements in America?
>>78968279
Mind to share it? That would be great.
>>78967226
So if they had to admit it was basically flawless work, what did their feedback say?
>>78968279
>The Fabian Society being evolutionary socialists, the splitting of socialism into evolutionary and revolutionary and a bunch of other stuff.
While this is true of the Fabians, it's not necessarily the position of Gramsci, Lukács, or certain Frankfurt School members.
>>78968553
Actually there's a youtube interview from British TV where the interviewer states that his ideas were at the heart of the students rhetoric and that particular resurgence/model of socialism. Marcuse denies that he had anything to do with it in the same interview. Forget the name but I can look it up.
>>78968589
I don't want to actually share it because it represents a shit load of research that people can just use as there own but I can answer some questions and put you onto books/references etc if you want.
>>78969430
>Marcuse denies that he had anything to do with it in the same interview.
Should we be surprised?
>>78969567
Could you at least give us your bibliography so we can look up this info on our own?
http://endingthefed.com/un-official-found-dead-was-set-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton-same-day-barbell-fell-on-his.html
>>78968836
The feedback basically argued every point I made, I studied at the no1 arts university in the country (yeah, I know pol will hate on that but I'm a creative type). So all the tutors are seriously liberal, I knew it would be a challenge but also knew it would end up being a shit piece of writing if I didn't do something I cared about. But yeah: they pointed out counter arguments to everything I said and then used the last line to say it was admirable for choosing a dangerous subject.
If it was marked by a single person they probably would have shit on it but it has to be viewed and marked by several people, so I knew they couldn't give me a shit mark if it was well referenced/researched.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/frankfur/
TL;DR Marxists that don't like Soviet Union.
>>78970029
>frankfurt didn't like the ussr
>is proof cultural marxism is fake
>>78970259
If you think it's a conspiracy go take a fucking philosophy class and argue it with your tutor.
>>78970498
I shouldn't have to. Critical Theory is 100% Jewish and 100% behind the current SJW problem today.
>>78968861
No, they are absolutely evolutionary socialists; with an overt hatred of capitalism and Freudian psychoanalysis mixed in due to Horkheimer taking over and creating critical theory, then Marcuse transferred it to the west from Columbia University, at the same time Horkheimer moved to Hollywood. The difference is they use critical theory to destroy western culture in an attempt to replace it with socialism and The Fabian Society use more traditional evolutionary socialist tactics by creeping into government by vote. They're both attempting to usurp capitalism and turn the west socialist just with different methods but they're certainly more evolutionary than revolutionary. They're not using force, they're using subversion.
>>78970688
My point is no one in the real world gives a fuck about 'cultural Marxism' or 'Critical Theory'. When was the last time a politician quoted Benjamin?
>>78969625
Haha, no. That was my point.
Just tried posting my references but they're 12,000 words. Maybe I can do a quick best of, hold on:
>>78971239
Upload it m8, would like to read it
>>78970730
I said SOME members of the Frankfurt School were, others weren't. Benjamin was anti-evolutionist as his "Marxism" was entirely inspired by Jewish lurianic kabbalah which hates progress and seeks to return humanity to a harmonious primordial state (Garden of Eden basically) when messiah comes.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/benjamin/1940/history.htm
>>78970866
>My point is no one in the real world gives a fuck about 'cultural Marxism' or 'Critical Theory'.
They do. Every uni in the west teaches Critical Theory and it's the basis of the SJW phenomenon.
>When was the last time a politician quoted Benjamin?
A politician won't but an academic in the humanities would.
Also managed to get this in there too, which is now mirrored in the BREXIT result, thought it was a pretty cool chapter heading:
Chapter 3: Hitler the Humanitarian: The Modern Left Facilitating the Rise of the Modern Right
In the time of docudramas and simulations ... the difference between TV and real events is more and more blurred...
(Hughes, 1993, p.5).
>>78971556
Yeah but my whole thing is focusing on Marcuse, Horkheimer and Marcuse being directly responsible for modern PC and the transference of critical theory to the west. Half The Frankfurt School hated Horkheimer and didn't like the blending of Marxism and Freud but that's not relevant to the topic of modern PC and how it got started/it's like to Frankfurt due to it's basis in critical theory.
>>78971556
>They do. Every uni in the west teaches Critical Theory and it's the basis of the SJW phenomenon.
And who in the real world gives a fuck about SJWs?
>A politician won't but an academic in the humanities would.
And these academics are running the illuminati I suppose? All these art students and SWJs are plotting terror attacks and staging coups?
>>78971538
Would like to but can't Ausbro. If you're interested in something in particular I can help you out though.
>>78971868
Benjamin's language theory (which was also inspired by Lurianism, surprise surprise) is the basis of Deconstructionism, which is the basis of SJW identity politics and language policing. Kabbalah says Yahweh used language to create the world and everything in creation is merely a product of Yahweh's language. Deconstructionism says the EXACT SAME THING. So, SJWs take this idea and use it to prove nothing is real, that everything is just a "social construct" created by language, so the way to change society is to language police. But Deconstruction - and Benjamin - say all existing language is inherently fragmented and broken, and ultimately fails, so we can be sure of nothing. This is how SJWs attempt to uproot truth.
>>78972293
You know way more about it than SJWs do.
>>78972939
SJWs don't need to be scholars to put these techniques into use. They merely parrot the words of their professors who are well-versed in this stuff.
>>78969929
But did their arguments hold merit? If you did your job and they were forced to give you a top grade, what is left to argue?
>>78972293
what you say may be true, but let's not forget that deconstructionism was actually a reaction against the language games of the structuralists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structuralism
>>78973295
They couldn't just say: yes you're right. The reason it was so long is they're tutors at a liberal arts university and so they have to protect their backs but at the same time they're most likely giving me a pat on the back with the great grade as a message that they agree that PC has made their jobs 1000 times harder.
In some of the private meetings I had with them to "help" me through writing it I could tell that a couple of them agreed with what I was saying. A couple of others were trying to put me onto different sources of information to dilute the message. When they give you feedback at uni they don't just say "this is perfect", it's their job to critique your arguments.
>>78973950
But how could they criticize every point if you did your job right?
>>78973898
I know who Saussure was.
I know about Heidegger, and how Adorno remarked how similar his language theory was to Benjamin's.
>>78974125
Because everything is subjective and just because I point out one level of an argument with one source doesn't mean they can't then point out a differing point of view. With a subject as complex as it was I couldn't point out every conceivable point of light/point of view within the word count. If I'd done something easy there would probably be less room for counter arguments but it is what it is.
Like I said before: they HAVE to do this. It's their job. They're paid to make you question your theories/points. Doesn't mean I'm wrong, doesn't mean they're right. This is how university marking works.
>>78974814
I get what you're saying, but not everything is subjective. If you were able to prove the core of the origins and existence of cultural marxism, those cores cannot be both "subjective" and argued and be correct at the same time. Subsequently, if you failed to prove the core your dissertation wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed on.
They can spin, twist, color and avoid. But they cannot deny. Did they deny or not?
>>78974814
That's how cultural studies works. There is no right or wrong answer, you just quote other academics to back up an argument that's extrapolated from reality.
You take the culture first, and formulate the theory around it. Such is that it is more accurately the study of revolutions than the cause of them. Political, historical social, cultural circumstances are more important than these incomprehensible philosophers.
>>78975439
One cannot 'prove' cultural marxism. Critical theory, Frankfurt school are all philosophical ideas.
>>78975976
Why are you denying the reality of cultural marxism?
>>78975439
I can be subjective because it's such a huge subject, so I can prove that Marcuse's ideas were used to fuel the socialist backbone of the equality riots in the US but that doesn't stop a tutor saying "have you considered that x may also have had an influence" etc. These subjects are multi-layered. Just because I point out the key influence doesn't mean there isn't any other contributing factors to a movement, event or societal change.
They didn't deny anything, just a lot of spin to save their skins from anyone that might read their feedback down the line.
Again: they have to do this. I got the highest mark in my class for my dissertation, it was an excellent piece of writing that took months of research to write. You don't do a three year degree and at the end they give you a gold star and say well done, they're paid to try and give you different angles on subjects and ideas, even if they're completely wrong.
Anyway, we're going in circles here. I get your point but that's just how they operate. You're using rationality to try and understand something that's not rational.
>>78976106
Just because philosophies have influenced a few protesters does not mean there's a conspiracy. If you hadn't noticed the world is not run by humanities professors and protesters.
>>78976677
The conspiracy is blatantly obvious. WHY was the Institute for Social Researched formed in the first place? To study how Western culture didn't accept Marxism, and to tweak it to weed out all those cultural elements so that it does in the future.
And if there's any doubt, both Adorno and Benjamin expressed extreme negative feelings towards Western civilization, Benjamin even going so far as to call all of civilization "barbaric."
>>78975976
That's stupid. Regardless of the content of an idea, it's existence, origins and propagation can still be traced to it's inventor. That part is entirely objective.
>>78976363
>"have you considered that x may also have had an influence"
That's not negative feedback. You gave the impression they were actually denying you, trying to subvert, twist or deny your work. You explicitly stated you received nothing but negative feedback on every single point. This is just what regular teachers do.
>>78978069
It is blatantly obvious in that you are taking one thing and renaming it another and building a conspiracy theory around it. You could call any philosophy a conspiracy theory as it changes the way people think about things, and in turn could affect their actions. If you believe you have better philosophies to argue, you can go right out and do that. Where is the conspiracy against you? Where is the power in this conspiracy? Right wing philosophies are not banned, and people tend to prefer them.
>>78978339
>It is blatantly obvious in that you are taking one thing and renaming it another and building a conspiracy theory around it.
Such as?
>>78966479
Gramsci wasn't jew
Anyway, now it is with Wikipedia
>>78978635
Gramsci was only one part of it. Lukács, Horkheimer, Benjamin, Adorno, Reich, Fromm, and Marcuse were all Jews.
>>78978617
Critical Theory / Frankfurt School, a subject mostly only fringe lefties and philosophy / humanities students bother to study, and calling it "Cultural Marxism", creating a conspiracy theory that this irrelevant group of people are actually in control of everything.
>>78978905
Doesn't matter. The point is Frankfurt School set the stage for SJWs.
>>78979105
As I have already tried to point out, very few SJWs are familiar with these theories. I will direct you to probably the most famous work of the school, The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction by Walter Benjamin.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
You believe SJWs understand these kind of texts?!
>>78976363
The irony of the Cultural Marxism meme is that you have to use Critical Theory to 'prove' it.
>>78979446
>You believe SJWs understand these kind of texts?!
No but that doesn't mean they aren't getting the dumbed down versions from their profs.
Benjamin is also heavily loved by academia. Why would that be the case if he's so hard to understand?
>>78979842
Because Professors like that smug feeling of spending 20 years trying to comprehend outdated philosophies.
>>78980060
Benjamin's contexts may be outdated but his message is still repeated loud and clear in the humanities today. I've been to a few American universities and yes in every Comparative Literature 101 course the first text you read is The Task of the Translator (entirely kabbalistic and huge basis for SJW).
>>78980256
So what? You're just describing a philosophy influencing people. This doesn't prove any of 'Cultural Marxism' conspiracy theory claims any more than cultural analysis' proves critical theorists arguments.
>>78981650
The Frankfurt School was specifically set up to analyze Western culture for the purposes of infiltrating it. This is a known fact.
