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Is there a problem with dating and relationships today? I feel there's a very disproportionate number of single men to women because women now think they all deserve the alpha male.

Was it always like this?

At least they're put in their place in poorer countries.
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>>78948660
You have no game. Its natural that you feel bitter.
Yes, losers always rationalized why they lose, that it must be some grand scheme and not their personal failure.
Just enjoy the ride, I hear that bitter cynical jaded broken cunts can have very deep and enjoyable conversation about grand politics and existentialism and such while I fuck your crush.
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>>78948797
FPBP

Threads over boys
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>>78949075
Fuck off leaf
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>>78948797
>game

this board is for adults only, kid
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>>78948660
>be me
>autistic virgin
>get game and find good relationships
>realize women aren't great and are mostly leftist shills.
>want to leave the dating game

If there's a relationship problem its that there's not good potential on either side and I think society damages people beyond repair. I don't like it and I think I want to be alone. What's the point? Its all very depressing.
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>>78948660

No, you just feel that way because you can't get laid.
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>>78948660
Dude you don't have to be an "alpha" to get girls. Just be a human being and eventually the odds are you'll find at least one that'll like you.

I've seen fat ugly fucks pull 10/10 qt's simply because they were non chalant about being fat and didn't give a fuck what the bitch thought.

Just be confident, you don't need to be chad.
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>>78948660
Just be yourself ;)
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>>78948660
All women have always thought this. It's not news to anyone who pays attention, and you're not special for figuring it out. Learn to live around the parasitic sex, and you'll be happier for it.
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>>78951996
I can go hire any backpages escort right now if all I cared about was sex
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OP is right in a sense.

To think of it like this, women used to have access to the village and the surrounds, but now they seem to think they've got access to the entire town and so become not only much more selective, but it seems, sluttier.

I hover around the middle on the desirability scale, can get laid if I try....but I have to try.
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>>78951545
>Inb4 Muh bozgors!
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>>78948660
Very attractive men are literally taking anything with boobs.
I've seen really ugly/fat chicks getting messaged from what I would call 8/10 guys or higher who just want to get their dick wet fast and practice on something.
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>>78948660
dont worry about that, just low your standards and fuck as much as you can.
You are welcome.
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>game
holy shit this is what women want? i have fucking tons. do they like nintendo games? PC? playstation? i have plenty and it's all paying off now
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>>78948660
t b h alfa males deserve an alpha female
99% of females are not that sexy so they should just fuck whatever is local and available
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I was wondering. I am man who has lost his virginity when he was 15 and has had ocassional sex ever since. However, whenever these threads popup there is always immense hate to the obvious virgin making them. I never had this urge to hate like the shills above me, but rather to help.
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>>78953778
It's because coddling virgins their entire life got them to the boat they're in. At some point, you have to stop trying the same thing over and over when it hasn't worked for the last two decades.
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>>78953778
I think the virgin hating is from guys who's lives are complete shit and the only thing they have going for them is the fact they fuck coked out sluts at parties and clubs while working minimum wage jobs

Meanwhile autist virgins get engineering degrees
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>>78952498
This is true

The real redpill is being aware that possessing certain metaphysical qualities is more than anything with women. Looks help, but think about it. Men who put in all their time in sculpting themselves, being fashionable, and getting into the newest "trendy" stuff are going to pull women with least desirable traits metaphysically who will only see looks as attractive. Just settle for a 5-7/10 and stop complaining about how women aren't loyal; those females have more to them because they may be a bit deeper. Just act like a man and assume your role. There is such a thing as too much effort.
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>>78948660
>I feel there's a very disproportionate number of single men to women because women now think they all deserve the alpha male.

how does that even make sense mathimatically? chad has 10 girlfriends?

american gender relations is fucked because you have a 50% divorce rate so literally half the country has no idea what an adult relationship is meant to be like and equates commitment with misery
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>>78953991
I agree with you, however, sometimes these threads raise interesting points about the dating scene.
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>>78954074
I don't think you know what metaphysical means
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>>78951383
>dr doesnt get laid detected

How are the cheetos and 7-up today chief?
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>>78952498

but how to get pussy if you are kind of scientists learning and working all the time. no friends,no parties,no relationships. in work i dont meet any woman.
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>>78953991
>>78954021
Kinda, it's also a matter of competition.

It's why chads hate those pickup artistry books.
Suddenly, any sperg who had a real go of it had a fighting chance.
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>>78948660
>Is there a problem with dating and relationships today?
yes.
people like to be so casual at everything

casual sex
casual dating (dating 3 guys at once or more)

people are so noncommittal and they think its the way forward. to be "chill" at everything.
but its the exact same reason why no one ever lasts together.

i could be wrong but thats how i see it.
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>>78948797

fpbp

Most men are pathetic numales that no woman wants anyway. It's why they're all for importing brown ones who don't buy into the liberal numale bullshit.
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>>78954369
I have a theory that a lot of the SJW feminism shit we're seeing today is a direct result of a lot of dudes incorrectly applying pickup artistry and just coming off as complete dicks instead of leaving the women better than you found them like you're supposed to.
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Even if you browse 4chan regularly and have mild autism, you can still get girls to slut it up, stop whining
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>>78952892
That is one high test pepe my friend.
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>>78953991
>>78953778

>coddling virgins

this isn't the norm anywhere in this day and age. Everywhere men are basically told that sex defines them and that premarital sex is a rite of initiation. Porn and media remind them that being a man requires fornicating. And men using virginity as an identity to get pity is just a symptom of the same problem

Reality is any dude can fuck a prostitute if they wanted just sex, but many actually want relationships and families.

Even guys who wait for marriage are ridiculed for being backwards, or that they're just making excuses. And Male celibacy is possibly the most forbidden lifestyle in liberalized sexualized modern West.
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>>78954511
You get it.

sadly it always takes someone from the "third world" to provide wisdom that Westerners used to see as normal 100 years ago
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>>78954138
>american gender relations is fucked because you have a 50% divorce rate so literally half the country has no idea what an adult relationship is meant to be like and equates commitment with misery

>>78954511

Too true, anons.
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>>78954597
I don't want to fug a slut I want a at 3.14 gf to potentially marry

I've resigned myself to the fact I'll just need to pick up a shy 20 yo virgin after I graduate college and start working
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Someone tell me what's wrong with casual sex besides angering virgins?

In good parts of America there's an extremely low risk of STDs and pregnancy, and you can mitigate this further by using condoms (i don't)
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>>78954251
Go out? Being a scientist doesn't mean you can't go out to bars. Workout, get some nice clothes, get a nice haircut, and be confident. All there is to it really.

Butthurt virgins need to realize that girls will mostly reject you regardless how you look, it's all about a game of averages. Chad thundercock might have a higher batting average than you, but you'd be surprised how little it matters when you actually get into the game.

Looks are kind of like talent in a field, sure it helps, but if you don't have the skill and discipline you wont succeed well. I've seen many good looking guys bomb when approaching girls.
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>>78948660
>women now think they all deserve the alpha male.

This shit again.

What is more alpha - that I shoot the guy in the picture between the eyes then fuck over his girlfriend(S), or that he looks "handsome and unthreatening"?
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>>78955413
Why waste time dicking sluts w/ herpes, hpv, and dad issues when you can spend time boosting GPA or looking for a girl to marry?

Answer this with resorting to ad him please
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>>78955413
>and you can mitigate this further by using condoms (i don't)
Nice, you answer you own question.
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>>78948660
The problem here is the perpetuation of this "friend zone" myth; The absurd notion that once a woman sees you as a friend she cannot possibly see you as anything else.

This is patently false, if you find a woman who is within your league and genuinely befriend her, you are effectively 'courting', as it was once called. She feels safe with you, you can take her on dates and you're able to communicate with her as another human being rather than some bitch you want to stick it in.

The reason so many people believe this is a dead end is that those reporting in are generally weak/ugly/fat/etc., addicted to porn and unable to process the idea of a healthy longterm relationship, and first and foremost: they're shooting far out of their league.

Find a girl who likes you enough to hang around you. Have some fun with her like she was anyone else, after a couple months, if you still like her, set up a small proposal for a relationship. Nothing too fancy, but something more than "w-want to be my g-girlfriend?"

You're not going to build a solid relationship on 3 dates and some mediocre sex

If you don't have enough personality to develop a friendship with a woman, shoot for somebody equally repulsive and you'll do fine.
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>be 26
>meet 19yo
>she's hot to trot
>we hit it off, sex is great, she's not too demanding and not an idiot
>about 2 months in, find out she's had thirty partners

It's fucking depressing, but you really have to let that go....the signs were already there if I was paranoid to really look for them.

If it's *that* many at such an age all I can think is "one day I'll go to a work party and there's a good chance one or two guys there have fucked her".

I even said that to her and she said I was better than the others...but that is so entirely besides the point, there's nothing special. If I want just sex, I can see a prostitute. It doesn't feel intimate because you think "you give this feeling up for anybody".
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>>78955413
Casual sex is pointless, I'd rather start a family and build something for the future.
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>>78948660
thanks to online dating a social media the dating market is overflowed
grills get more attention than ever before. Just be skinny with nice tits and average face and you can whore yourself on instagram like a minor celebrity
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>>78955434
>the game.

I can confirm this is bs. I have been sleeping with women since 15 and the whole game thing is a meme. It is a combination of looks (mostly looks) and virtue signaling, which I can only do under the severe influence of alcohol or being really horny. Otherwise I have the nagging tendency to an hero when talk to a female. Especially western females form the angelic world.
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>>78948660

>Is there a problem with dating and relationships today?

Yes. Women are whores, moral foundations are crumbling and we're seeing more defeatist /r9k/ types of men.

This is nothing new, our current situation was birthed back in the 1960s
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>>78955955
This is just mind blowing.

Women can literally fuck themselves insane.
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>>78955751
>30 partners at 19
m8....
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>>78955714
It has been proven both scientifically and with field experience that women sort men who are not dismissed out of hand into two categories: fun, irresponsible bad boys, and dependable, genderless sponsors.
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>>78948660
grab a bitch by her throat and show her who's the man you fucking beta cuck
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>>78956088
I know...

Actually I think it was 29, I was 30.

But it'd be higher now so whatever.
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>>78954658
>And Male celibacy is possibly the most forbidden lifestyle in liberalized sexualized modern West

It' not forbidden, just ridiculed by some. You can die a virgin if you want, the community wont force you to marry or have sex with somebody like other cultures.
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>>78955434

b-but i can talk to women when i am completely drunk like 5-7 beers and i dont have time for gym, because of programming and shieet. is there any chance for me or i should obtain prostitutes? serious question
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>>78956171
Then get charged with rape.
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>>78948660
Statistically relationships aren't worth it because the fail rate is so high. Marriage is a joke because of the risk being so much higher then the reward.

Logically it isn't worth searching for a relationship.
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>>78948660

No they are literally milions of women out there that would date average and even underaverage men. I look bad but i can still get women to date and have sex with me. But there's 2 type of games with are 2 different games. If you want sex you play the sex game if you want relationship you play the relationship game.

So what do you really want ?

>sex
>relationship
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>>78955905
The game is not bs, practice makes perfect. Ugly guys can get pussy they just have to be confident and dress like they're wealthy. Women like confidence, because it signals that this is a high value male who she can use to increase her social status. If you're not autistic you can get pussy, even as an ugly fuck. Women's brains work differently from ours, they don't care so much about looks they care about what the looks represent. Social status. If you can better her status by being seen with her, she will fuck you.
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Finding a common interest or partaking in group hobbies is usually a good way to find pussy. Obviously being over weight, lacking in testosterone and being in a japanese cartoon club doesn't help, if this is the case you perhaps weren't meant to breed. But some girls are into some weird shit so given time you never know.

But if you are not the scum of all males all you have to find is a common interest and not be a pussy about it. Obviously this involves actually talking to people.

And if you can't find pussy, oh fucking well. Draw your attention to other issues, buy a fleshlight and avoid killing yourself.
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>>78956571

thanks for advice bro, it is really helpful. changed my life.
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>>78956557
Still retarded. Not to mention vapid as fuck. I prefer the 1800's in that sense.
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>>78948797
>le game
fuck off back to return of kings you faggot
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>>78956963
I agree that it's vapid. The "player" thing is a jewish meme designed to break down their enemy's moral virtue and fuck up society. That being said having sex once every other 2 weeks is natural and normal. We can't all date, nor do we all have the time to.
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>>78953647
Have a You
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>>78956212
ridiculed by almost all
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>>78954597
My dick twitched
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>>78957196
Right on. I could not date with the job I do now. However, one cannot deny my generation is absolute shite when it comes to commitment and loyalty. Which pisses me off to no end.
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>>78954597
Fuck me, that's so pathetic.

I mean, by all means you can talk to your wife/girlfriend like this, you can say the rankest shit you like.

Though for strangers to give this up.

ACTUAL PROSTITUTES can get creeped out and say no at demands that fast and heavy (semi decent hookers anyway).
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>>78955578

Sex is not a waste of time. I have time for sex, so I do it. I choose sex over playing guitar or video games or smoking weed, although I try to do all of them if possible

"Looking for a girl to marry" is a waste of time unless you're older (imo 30+ years old).

I'm enjoying my twenties improving myself and having sex because my dick is hard and I like tits
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>>78957196

So you want to pull the "Jewish meme card," while excusing promiscuity as natural?

The acceptance and tolerance of sexual promiscuity, hookup culture & "free love," along with the demonization of commitment, the undermining of the value of virginity, and the legitimizing of female sexuality is the biggest Jewish meme of them all.
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>>78948797
FPBP.
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there's a growing number of men who do not get married because the internet is waking up a lot of men to the fact that women are sluts, divorce rates are at an all time high and the courts ALWAYS side with women in divorce proceedings and so the possibility to lose all your shit is very high, relatively speaking, to how it once was.

Better to avoid that whole hassle but do yourself a favor and don't live with your girlfriend in a state that has "common-law" laws on the books. That is basically the same as being married.
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Man this thread hurts to read. So much 2nd hand embarrassment. Its glaringly obvious when 22 year olds post their opinions and advice, thinking all of real life is like dating in high school or their community college, thinking they're special because they pull slutty coeds.

Anyway, to all the autists in the struggle, no matter how aspie you are, if you have a stem degree and a job where you wear a tie, you will never have a problem finding a gf. Ever. It helps to lift too.
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>>78948797
THIS.
Stop being a huge fucking introvert faggot and maybe they'll start to like you.
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>>78956243
If you don't have 30 minutes a day to do a bit of running, than get the best escort possible. Just don't try to go for "the best price" offer.
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>>78958340
>suit

Yes, a well fitting suit can add digits to your look.

Emphasis on the "well fitting".

I have a very expensive suit that was gifted to me which fits excellently and whenever I wear it people just assume you're smarter, funnier, better looking and certainly richer.

It's not a golden ticket, but it's a foot in the door.
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>>78948660
hi baby
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>>78958709

Where do you wear a suit? I work in a professional environment and I never even wear a tie, I just wear nice fitting shirts
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>>78958340

Spotted the STEM autist. How ugly are the girls you shag?
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>>78960161
Not that often, if I go out somewhere with my boss and he's in a suit, I wear one too to match (though his is much nicer than mine).

Also wore it to a dating event - every girl there asks (ie: assumes) you're loaded.

Have also worn it out occasionally and shopkeepers always assume you're there to buy and not fuck about.

Might get worn once every month or three.
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Just look at the cover of every Romance novel when you walk through a book store.

Every single one.

The truth points to itself.
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>>78957968
#notalljews
Just some marxist autists
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>>78953647
They like rare games like Earthbound and stuff like Neo Geo and SNK. I hope you have more than just standard N64 stuff.
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>>78955955
it really makes you think.
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>>78956987
>calling people who actually get laid a faggot
>being this much of a beta loser

I'd be pissed off too if the last time I got laid was over 2 weeks ago
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>>78957968
You act like people didn't regularly fuck 50 years ago. It got shitty around the 60's when the jew took it too far and formed modern liberal movements. Men naturally want to have sex, and so do women. I see nothing wrong in satisfying these desires in a very moderate manner. It's the "yo lets go find bitches" guys that are degenerate.

After you hit 25 though you need a girlfriend, but I think people should enjoy their youth a bit.
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>>78956201
Did she ever participate in a gangbang or something? That's a huge amount of people for being so young
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>>78952892
>buying sex

Is /pol/ full of repulsive uggos?
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>>78961992
Daddy issues, abusive ex, would have gone and fucked a different guy each weekend for a while I'd say.

It's sad really as she was very cute. Would be wife material if she wasn't so fucking promiscuous.
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>>78956212
it's not that it's literally forbidden, but it's not actively encouraged and given an exclusive role like monastic communities had in the past. You realize that it used to be that it was not only encouraged but EXPECTED to be celibate to be a great intellectual
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>>78961945

50 years ago was the 1960s, anon. Of course they were fucking regularly during the cultural Marxist revolution.

Quit being a naturalistic fallacy faggot. Sex, even when done moderately, has consequences, see:

>>78955955

There's a very good reason that successful civilizations have regulated sexuality.

When you ignore that sexual promiscuity creates problems (higher divorce rates, infidelity rates, lower marital happiness, reduction of ones ability to pair-bond, etc.), you concede a vital foundation to the left. When you surrender on that front, you let them take the ball and run; after all, if "Sex in moderation is fine," where's the breaking point? Who defines moderation? What data can you provide to suggest moderation is fine but excess isn't?

It's the equivalent of ignoring genetic differences between the races and pinning problems ENTIRELY on culture. Once you cede genetics, and accept the premise of the left, they WILL beat you.
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>Was it always like this?
I think the internet has changed things. Chad and Jamal get like 20+ GFs while 80% of the male population has to masturbate, sometimes getting fat sluts to fuck with.

>>78957832
Yes, waste your time and money by irrelevant and non-committal and non-productive clubbing and the casual sex it sometimes (rarely) leads to. Avoid finding a committed wife (which would mean regular, STD-free and healthy sex).

>no matter how aspie you are, if you have a stem degree and a job where you wear a tie, you will never have a problem finding a gf
Some evidence would help, desu I don't believe you. I'm currently in my mid-20s and studying, and it doesn't look good.

>It's the "yo lets go find bitches" guys that are degenerate.
If women wouldn't be stupid bitches, I wouldn't act the way I do. I need sex sometimes, you can't realistically expect me to be virgin until I'm like 30 while all the women are choking on Abdul and Jamal's dick.

I was a "no-sex-until-marriage" kid years ago. It still doesn't sound like a bad idea desu. What makes it impossible is that girls are huge sluts all around me from age 14 onwards. It's all BS, "sperm is cheap but eggs are expensive" so naturally girls should be the chaste ones and guys should look for sex whenever they get it.

Any good ideas what I should do to find a committed and loyal wife? I think a lot of young men are dealing with this problem these days so I think my personal question is relevant to the thread.
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>>78962319
This is what fucks over so many young men. They'd rather chase after the 9/10 bombshell who's a mega slut than look for the shy 7/10 who would be the perfect wife/mother

>inb4 b-but dude... I-I would totally give my left but for the shy 7/10 wife material

Yeah? Then why the fuck are these stories always involving 10s and 9s? Because you're being led by your dick in your prime years while guys smarter than you are picking up the keepers
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I went out clubbing with friends this weekend because it was one of their birthdays. Never have I seen so much degeneracy from females, they literally don't care that they are sluts and the way they act. It really depresses me and makes me lose faith in relationships and dating. We got girls to show us their tits, take their panties off, and make out with each other with such little effort. Where are all the good girls left?
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>>78948797
Why are there more single people now than any point in western modern history? Is it all men's fault?
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>>78963706
I think you're conceding a vital point here; I would argue that young people had a LOT more sex when the average marriage age was 20 instead of 30 it is now.

Marriage means stable and free sex whenever you and your partner want it. Being single means "clubbing", "game", annoying PUA horseshit and all the other shit... and you only sometimes get sex, which is something you often later regret because of STD and pregnancy risks.
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>>78964567
She was certainly not a 9. I don't use a word "cute" to describe 9 and higher, I use "fucking hot" or "gorgeous".

A 7 when she does herself up, she was about as fatty as a girl can get while still being attractive.

I didn't know she was slutty until after we'd begun our fling, though as I said if I had the radar on the warning signs were there, looking back.

She also wanted to constantly go clubbing and other stupid shit when I'd rather chill out together with a small group. All that can be looked past though - the one thing nobody ever accepts is dishonesty.
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>>78948660
This on Pol .. Mods Ban him ..ok
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>>78964495
>a committed wife(which would mean regular, STD-free and healthy sex
You obviously have never been married if you think sex will be regular
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Almost all the girls I know are single. It's a culture thing.
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>>78965150
>You obviously have never been married
Why, you are correct.

Does the modern wife extort a lot of favors these days in return of sex? Both men and women need sex, you know... so if you're both under 40 and sex isn't something you're getting AT LEAST every week, I'd suspect that your wife is cheating on you or some stuff like that. But I don't have a lot of life experience in these matters.

I dunno, is marriage broken too these days?
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>>78962786
Catholic priests are supposed to be celibate.
I don't see why an intellectual should be more respectable (or less) for being celibate.
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>>78948660
>feel there's a very disproportionate number of single men to women

This is the golden age of dating and relationships. Literally everyone I know has a girlfriend. How fucking hard is this shit you litteral autists? Go to a club with your friends and pick someone up. Or use Tinder. Not hard.
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>>78965150
>I've gotten lazy and fat after marriage and now my wife won't fuck me
god, marriage SUCKS
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>>78948660

1 alpha can fuck 1000 females against 1000 betas fucking 0 females.

That is the sad truth of the world made sadder by modern anti-prostitution laws meaning the number of men over 30 who are not getting regular sex has increased exponentially.

The suicide rate among men has increased 10 fold over previous generations. Not a coincidence.
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>>78965960

> 1 alpha can fuck 1000 females against

this is what idiots actually believe.

Most Alphas (normal well adjusted men who look good and are physically fit) are in LTR's and get married by their mid to late 20's.
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>>78964808
Lyfestile, overpopulation
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>>78956243
>5-7 beers
>completely drunk
women don't like twinks
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>>78953222
>become more selective and more promiscuous

What an enigma
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>>78965960
>the number of men over 30 who are not getting regular sex

>all wmen are whores
>men can't get laid

Pick one, you virginal shut-in faggot. Or, failing that, get fit, get a job and get laid. Make your dad proud.
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>>78965737

Why are you so angry? Socially incompetent men just means you get more ladies for yourself
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>>78948797
and OP was never heard from again.
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>>78955383
>falling for le virgin meme
I bet greatest ally is really proud of you
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I stayed in this weekend because I'm going on holiday next week and surfed some /pol/ instead.

There were like three threads going at once on Saturday night about how women are whores or how we shouldn't have given women the vote or how they gravitate towards violent blacks etc.

Do you not think that maybe - just perhaps - the reason you fucking weirdos can't get laid is because you're sitting on here bitterly stewing on a Saturday night instead of out socialising like the rest of your peers?

Just a thought.

Also, fuck off back to /r9k/.
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>>78961355
>tfw just yesterday I went to Kmart and browsed the book section
>romance novel titles
>basically all themes of women being bought, or given/taken away
>all authored by women
>tfw women actually love being objectified, it turns them on
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>>78955751
Most 19yo prostitutes haven't even had time to fuck 30 people
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>>78966141
This is true, but they get plenty of pussy before they settle down
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We're all too lame and beta. That's pretty much it. Everyone has autism, now.
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>>78958340
>job where you wear a tie
>being forced to wear a work uniform
wear a suit if you like, but the fact that your boss orders you to dress a certain way isn't gonna impress anyone
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>>78967347

>meme
>Not something backed up by data

Kill yourself, Serbcuck.
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>>78966597

fuck of polish subhuman alhocolic fucking animal
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>>78956987
return of wi waz koongs
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>>78955383
>20 yo virgin
>3.14 gf

OH MAN
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>>78972593
Isn't your country like collapsing?
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>>78948797
>lel the game iz real
Pol is an 18+ board
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> the game

top kek mates

that landwhale you managed to pull after "gaming" probably would have let a dog fuck her, never mind some pua-cuck

people either find you hot/interesting or they don't
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>>78948660
> put in their place

You only want women to be put in their place because it would be the only way you can get laid without trying to be interesting or attractive.
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>>78952498
This. You have to like yourself before anyone can like you. Whether romantically or general friendship.

Being a bitter cynical redpiller will only turn people away more.
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>>78948660
And men all think they deserve a woman.

Surprise surprise - in the prehistoric days, alpha males got all of the women. It's nature reverting back to its natural course now.
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>>78953585
This. There are probably women willing to fuck you. They just may not be the women you want.
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>>78966322
White countries are not overpopulated, and the overpopulated countries continue to reproduce at fantastic rates.

The actual cause of this is that we're at war but instead of guns and swords cultural subversion is the weapon of choice. Women have been manipulated into being whores or frigid spinsters focusing on their 'careers'. To think that being a 'beta' is the cause of your average man's singleness is just another physiological assault, under normal circumstances a majority of men would have partners, only the bottom trash would be left wanting.

Though in one way it's our fault for letting it get this bad, in another it's women's fault for being so weak minded.
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Men get dragged down from the start. A relationship is like a 2nd job that steals everything from your life. You lose time, friends, and money. Your gf only needs to keep an appearance of grace to hide all of the destruction she consciously and sub consciously causes. All for some boring pussy you get sick of after you realize your gf is monitoring the sex life as some kind of measurement of her influence. It's living hell.
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>>78954138
I remember someone once told me, best kind of relationship is finding a best friend that you enjoy having sex with. If you can find a partner like that, you shouldn't be afraid of commitment.
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>>78948660

Don't worry, by the age of 30 it will be other way around. Tons of women flocking to get the few passable betas, that's how they get to pass their genes.
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>>78975052

>Implying that makes it okay.
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>>78974854
Think again. A best friend doesn't count how many beers you're drinking so they can use it against your will. They don't infiltrate you're hobbies to be able to spend more time with you. They fuck off when you're pissed at them instead of turning your whole night into 1 long circular argument til you can't remember what exactly you were pissed off about other than now you're the bad person for getting pissed in the first place. Your best friend won't linger around you trying to feel you out so they can move in for a power play on your friendship. Just give that meme a break.
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>>78975412

It's how the dating game works. The same way girls don't look at you now, it's the same way you will look at them in the future, after they gained 100lbs and had 3 children.
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>>78956171
This.
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>>78976565
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Mostly it's better to forsake women.

They cause more problems than they're worth.
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>>78976692
Isn't that the guy who shot up the Orland gay nightclub?
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>>78977224
u wot m8
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