Redpill me on Brexit /pol/
How is it a good thing? All I know is immigration and £350 million, both of which have been downplayed
It's not,
We're reaping the rewards of trifling with meme magic. We can only hope our golden son isn't about to do the same thing.
A big part of it was immigration but also taking sovereignty back from the EU.
I think in the coming months, more remain people will change their tune.
>>>78948514
>>78947781
It isn't. Your economy will suffer. Stirling vs the dollar is on its lowest since the early 80s. Your credit rating has just been downgraded by S&P. To keep on trading with the common EU market you will have to accept high fees and free movement. You win nothing and lose a lot.
Being able to control your own country is a good thing.
The globalists want to 'equalize' you with Ghana.
>>78948701
nah. The EU is going to collapse before two years are up. Nice try tho
>>78947781
Whenever we appeal to the lowest form of life (communism/socialism) we will always end up shooting ourselves in the foot.
That is weakness and conformity.
>>78948701
It's been 4 days, the market is down due to speculation, as of yet, britains economy is exactly the same as it was last week, at the moment there's a fight for power of who's going to be the next prime minister, after that we'll be fine, we are one of the richest countries on earth
>>78948701
Wew lad
>>78947781
It isn't. The only good thing about it is that people that were manipulated into thinking this somehow grants you "FREEDOOMMMMMMM" like the hosehead >>78948771
will be shrieking a little less loudly. I suppose it's good if you're a xenophobe.
>>78948701
also lol
Credit agencies can't objectively rate credit, and they certainly can't for nationstates such as Britain.
thx for posting 'this week in finance' though
>>78949071
They just did. No matter what you think, other credit agencies and economies DO pay attention to credit ratings. As time goes on, fewer countries are gonna want to do trade with Britain.
>>78948987
>being able to vote for your own leaders is racist
stop using 'xenophobe' as a word. racist fit perfectly fine, we're dealing with races, not xenos/aliens
basically read more
>>78948891
Lel
>France and Holland fascist parties say they will leave
>France will be one of the eu reformers in the next months
>Holland would be destroyed of leaving
>every other nation populist party already changed his mind about leaving
>Germany has no opposition
>Italy has no will of their own
>Spain has no government
Yeah Brussels is the weak link here
>>78949295
>Xenophobe
>prejudiced against foreigners
>racist
>Prejudiced against races
>Most white leavers have been targeting caucasians from foreign countries.
Hmmmmm
enjoy the niggers you so desire, cucks
>>78949271
>>78949323
>>78948987
you'll learn what Islam and low social capital does to advanced economies; Britain will be better off without you
>>78949478
>>Most white leavers have been targeting caucasians from foreign countries.
And yet, there are no proofs whatsoever. In a country more violent than a violent racially mixed shithole like America, violence against Poles is randomly described as British and implied to be due to Brexiters with no evidence at all.
>>78948510
>>78949615
Yeah, right as if in 5 years the next leftist populist brit politician will not build his campaign on a new referendum to join and will succed because he will say that this will give them what they had before.
I know five German engineers that immigrated to Alberta in the past year just to get away from Islamization and their liberal cohorts
your economies *will not function* when your workers are blue-haired LGBTQWTF shitlibs and indolent, angry third generation jihadists
you're fucked, Europe. It won't show up in the demographics, or the numbers, or the popular consciousness yet, but you are fucked
>>78949779
Oh my god goy it was like 200 years ago let it go
>>78949869
nobody wants to join the EU except shitholes like Albania and Turkey, have you missed the past ten years?
the EU is over and you guys are slow to not realize this. Low IQ remainers in my opinion
>Americans saying how terrible brexit is and how racist the UK is for doing it.
Tell you what America, how about you enter a union with mexico, canada, brazil, argentina etc. Where you get one vote, they all get one vote and they all get to decide which laws and regulations you have to obey. Oh, and uncontrolled, legal immigration from those countries that you have no ability to do anything about.
I bet the US would overwhelmingly vote that it!
>>78950055
>it was like 200 years ago
what was?
>Stronger in the EU
>One nation starts to fuck around and wants to leave
>Entire EU collapses overnight
So, how exactly are we stronger in the EU if shit like this can happen? If we were stronger in the EU, the other nations wouldn't give a fuck and carry on as normal.
>>78948701
>>78950222
N-nothing nevermind
>>78949869
>EU collapse is now 'practically IRREVERSIBLE' after Brexit, says George Soros
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683518/EU-collapse-Brexit-EU-referendum-European-Union-George-Soros-investors
Only leech/poor countries want to join the EU now, as evidenced by Brexit, the wealthier countries are considering exiting the union.
There won't be an EU to join in five years, try and keep up
>>78948987
You should be shot by a firing squad behind your cuckshed.
>>78948701
>implying money is worth more than freedom
also, here's your (you) now go back to your coffeshop ya stoned kike
>>78950632
No they are not considering, go back and read my first post.
There is no government that stated that they are even considering to leave.
And UK has his currency, how do you think Spain would do about creating his own?
>>78949639
You have to be retarded to seriously think this. Considering it rose considerably after the Brexit result came out, and considering the massive amount of English-born citizens that are being told to "go back where they came from," that they'll "never be true British," and the numberous photos on FB of people of Polish descent being harassed by nameless individuals, and no "true British" citizens have been harassed, there is at least SOME indication that there is xenophobia on the rise due to Leavers acting like massive cunts.
>>78951120
How would Spain issue currency? The same way shithole countries like Nicaragua and Mexico manage to do it... sovereignty is not difficult, and you don't need to pay foreign bureaucrats premiums to have a modern country.
There's now no incentive for wealthy nation's to remain in the EU. Britain took that a first-mover disadvantage, but now the way out is open for everyone, economically speaking.
Terrorist attacks *will happen* in Europe.
Banks (DeutscheBank) *will* implode.
>>78947781
>2,706,066 Muslims
You mean you want MORE on that tiny island?
>>78951594
Racism is on the rise because this generation got fucked over by liberalism and open-borders. The nation state remains the foundation for happiness, sovereignty, and social capital.
This is going to be the century of race, and we're going to see globalism resoundingly destroyed in the next forty years. This was a Franz Ferdinand level event.
>>78951594
>Considering it rose considerably after the Brexit result came out
Citation please. A link to "Polish people got beat up" is dogshit tier, the media has been smearing poles for years.
If poles are unduly attacked, it is not new, and largely stems from the media tricking people into thinking they're the main migrant threat.
>>78951594
also you're not British just by being born in Britain, that's idiotic. British soil isn't magical, and doesn't magically make people British.
Blood and ancestry make a person British.
How much more freedom will we actually get? What's the EU been enforcing on us, other than the aforementioned things in the OP
>>78951744
> How would Spain issue currency? The same way shithole countries like Nicaragua and Mexico manage to do it...
Oh, sorry I did not noticed that you were trolling.
Yeah and then Mexico start his space project and reaches Venus firts and North Korea turns in to a repubblic overnight.
If you can't see that the whole Europe lives and dies with Brussels you have not been paying attention. Germany and maybe France are the only 2 countries that could maybe leave the union without going bankrupt. And they are not planning to leave. The rest of Europe does what Germany says.
Yes it's not ideal but that is the reality
See the picture? He's not British, and never will be. He's an American Indian. American Indian bureaucrats don't have to declare him to be anything, he is what he is, an Indian. He's not Indian because of where he was born, but to whom he was born.
Liberals believe a load of bullshit that they can not sustain... the global order needs to be thrown out for being based on such obvious lies.
Accepting the 'magical soil' basis for citizenship proves that one reasons in poor faith
>>78952238
You will be able set your own regulations over product. Like own much lead to insert in kid toys. You will still use European regulation when selling to Europe.
You will get worts trade agreement with Europe than before. If your are lucky you maybe will find better one with China and USA, but it's likely that European regulation will be kept, because it's just too much work to rewrite then. That is all pretty much
>>78948891
The UK was the handbrake on the EU. We didn't adopt the Euro, and blocked legislation that would have made it stronger and more resistant to financial instability. Now we are gone it can actually get all that shit passed.
Instead of weakening the EU by leaving it will make it even stronger.
>>78952526
Look, Ireland. Your countries existed for thousands of years before the EU, it's sophistry to pretend that nothing can survive outside of a gigantic Germanic bureaucracy.
Britain can survive outside of the EU, as can every other member.
You do realize what the EU is, right? Members pay a premium to a central authority in Brussels, and receive back less money than they put in... that money gets used to pay salaries, etc. It's unnecessary overhead. Freedom of trade will be negotiated between sovereign nations, as it was for millennia before the EU, and everything will be fine.
>>78948701
Please do not torture infantile /pol/tards with economic realities.
>>78947781
Ignore the claim about the £350 million. It was always bullshit, but the leave campaign has legitimate points:
>UK can now take back its naval economic area
>UK can now decide for itself for subsidies of ANY industry instead of the EU setting harmful "common policies" (could save British steel and fishing)
>UK can now regulate its banks without EU interference
>UK can now repeal or pass regulation as they wish, without EU interference
>the Supreme Court is again the Supreme Court, and not subservient to the European Court of Justice
>UK can now negotiate their own trade deals independently, without being shot down by competing interest in the EU (US and Canada already declared openness for trade, and EU is forced to from economic dependence)
>UK now has full democratic mandate to pass or repeal non-regulative legislation
>UK can reform immigration (still a democracy, if the Tories don't do it this term someone else will)
>UK can now independently set targets for tariffs, possibly lower than the EU
>UK can now have its own independent voice in the WTO
The only "downside" is temporary turmoil on the markets, which the Bank of England has already set in contingency plans for. The government is dealing with handling the turmoil and making a serious consideration for what would be the best strategy to leave.
cont (1/2)
>>78947781
Of course it was a good thing. Do you want to be part of the EU superstate dictatorship?
>>78952952
>Britain can survive
So can Zimbabwe, lel
>and receive back less money than they put in
Except that is not true.
>>78952999
Good luck with your economy based on white cucks who want to write about diversity and handouts to your New Germans, but I think I see an issue, here
>>78953139
The future of Zimbabwe is better than that of Germany
hint: they'll be around in 100 years
>>78947781
Its the results of many years of PC.
>>78952952
UK is indeed the only country that can survive alone.
Regarding everything else
Well yes, 100 years after the end of Europe maybe it will be all like before. But the day Europe ends, there will be piles of bodies outside of trade centers because people started jumping from windows.
And Italy gains much more that what sends to Brussels. As do most of the poor countries. I will not give up half of my moneys because I cannot vote to repel kid toys regulations
It comes down to political interest. there is no wrong choice. only consiquences. pros and cons. UK in the EU is in my interests
>>78947781
>>78953082
Compare it to the remain camp, which also lied and pulled things out of their ass:
>UK will not gain any trade relations with the EU
>Obama said the UK would be at "the back of the queue"
>We can control immigration by cutting benefits
>We can reform the EU to be more democratic
>There will be an economic recession if we leave
>There would be an emergency austerity budget if the UK voted to leave
Reality is:
>EU already declared openness to trade and said it would be "swift and orderly"
>Obama immediately retracted his claim about "back of the queue" and said the US would love to get a trade deal
>Immigration CANNOT be controlled in the EU. The big problem is NOT people claiming benefits, but rather 8 Poles living in the same apartment, sharing the rent, and working for absolute scrap in low-skill labour pressuring the British out of the labour market
>Merkel and Jean-Claude Juncker have shot down any suggestions of serious reform in the EU
>No recession in sight, Deutsche Bank actually came out and said the UK stock market will outperform continental markets
>No emergency budget, Osborne retracted that claim today
Source for last claim in pic related.
Temporary market volatility was always expected. There is no suggestion whatsoever that there will be an economic recession due to this and the FTSE100 has literally been lower than what it is now earlier this year long before Brexit.
>>78947781
>Cries about 350million a week
>Thats 18 200 000 000$ a year
Proceeds to wipe 13% of its GDP in two days or 348 140 000 000$
Just fuck my shit up
>>78952895
Of the 28 member states, 8 do not use the euro. The UK was not the only handbrake. All member states will be required to swap over to the euro in 2020. If the EU hasn't collapsed by then, there will definitely be opposition from countries such as Denmark. They like their currency just as much as Brits.
Hopefully dependency on the EU hasn't grown by then, I want to see this fucking ship sink
>>78948984
>>78948984
Waiting for
>It's been 4 months, the market is down due to speculation
>>78954191
I'm sorry, but that's absolute bullshit. See >>78953804
>>78948984
>economy exactly the same
>FTSE shitting blood all over itself
>>78952999
I work for a clearing house and voted leave. Regulation is crushing the markets, we'll be far more competitve now.
Paris and Frankfurt on suicide watch pal.
>>78953422
you clearly have no idea about the media in the uk. For the past 15 years at least they've been building up to Brexit.
>>78954319
Bullshit. They were lower earlier this year and have been declining for a while now.
![W1cmLh[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/qhJjf6V.gif "W1cmLh[1].gif")
>>78947781
American big business (see: Trump) has worked to undermine European economic leverage and Russia has worked to undermine our political leverage.
European nations will never be relevant again.
>>78951744
>he same way shithole countries like Nicaragua and Mexico manage to do it
>modern country
uwot
>>78954319
>>78954583
More proof. They were declining long before the Brexit referendum was even announced.
why do literally all Remainers think that their one economics course makes them financial geniuses?
shit arguments from the remain camp, I don't know why you people waste your time typing up this middle-brow shit, as if we didn't take first level economics
whoa whoa whoa, immigration is great for the economy which means Brexit is bad, stellar argument there, we had never considered that, we're just dumb racists
>>78952837
they'll still need to use European regulations anyways, you wanna sell cars? better have that Euro 5 mark on it and so on
>>78947781
have the source image for the OP post?
>>78947781
In terms of outcome, it was a terrible idea. Not only did it not wake up the rightwing in Britain to the horrors of the EU, it was done too early.
When you let water sit for a day before you drink it, you should leave it for 4 days instead, that way you know the full effect of what dirt can accumulate in the cup, that way you learn a lesson. Because Britain called for Brexit too early, they're not learning a valuable lesson in immigration and economics.
>>78950977
Fuck off with this "freedom is worth more than money" shit. Money pays for food and housing, freedom doesn't.
>>78951120
They would do well. The Euro is keeping them down because it is a currency best fit for the strength of the German economy, not the Spanish one. Italy would too.
>>78954660
>>78951744
Well, I'm sorry, but what the fuck do you think that literally EVERY COUNTRY NOT IN THE EUROZONE is doing? They're issuing their OWN currency and for a lot of them it's working WELL. It is absolutely no coincidence that the Eurozone has an average youth unemployment rate of 21%, when the Euro is a far too overvalued currency for every single southern European state.
>>78954792
Nono you are not racist. You are just retarded who thinks that a country can create his own currency overnight.
>>78955076
you were giving all the housing to the immigrants and housing was completely unaffordable for normal people
the previous system was shit
This is not an economic issue for /pol/. Being in the EU as well as accepting immigration has proven to do good for your economy and stormfags can't deny that it won't decline. However you would still see the degradation of your culture and cities if you stayed in the EU and put up with the "migrants".
But also it doesn't matter because all those immigrants from the past few decades aren't going anywhere. I don't know how the EU works but perhaps getting better representatives that don't enforce policies that 90% of the people living in the EU don't approve of would have been a better option.
Europeans lived in caves before the EU, especially Britain.
The entirety of history is a lie manufactured by white supremacists.
>>78947781
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/we-just-witnessed-the-greatest-one-day-global-stock-market-loss-in-world-history
"Well, the truth is that now that the British people have voted to leave the EU, the globalists have to make it as painful as possible on them in order to send a warning to other nations that may consider leaving."
>>78955217
Yeah, just ignore all the non-Eurozone countries that have their own currency, and just look past the fact that the EU literally created their own currency out of thin air.
It's not a process that happens overnight, but yes, it's definitely doable and it just so happens that when your economy is underperforming it's typically positive to devalue the currency because it makes it easier to export on the global market.
Stop being retarded. You are embarrassing yourself by speaking about something you have no knowledge of.
>>78947781
>1:2 vs Iceland kek
>>78955298
They may choose to leave.
>>78955473
What? How can you possibly have an economy or a currency or a financial system while voting for your own leaders? Did you drop out of school or something?
>>78955217
We don't use the Euro in the UK, never have.
>>78955473
Yes you can create your own currency, what do you think will happen? They will be destroyed when they switched to it because they previously lived in the euro environment.
Those countries with their currency could leave. I doubt they will though.
>>78955298
>I don't know how the EU works but perhaps getting better representatives that don't enforce policies that 90% of the people living in the EU don't approve of would have been a better option.
Can't do that when the European Commission is appointed. They are the only body which have legislative abilities within the EU and all the European Parliament can do is vote on their proposals.
>>78955758
You are a fool. Unless there is a radical change in government that makes Germoney or somewhere more appealing, it's not going to happen.
>>78955880
Yes and I previously said UK can survive because of that
>>78953082
>it was always bullshit
>but so good they put it on their battle bus and delivered speeches in front of it
>>78955818
>How can you possibly have an economy or a currency or a financial system while voting for your own leaders?
Is this sarcasm? Sorry, I'm autistic.
>>78955988
How would it be destroyed immediately, exactly..?
>>78956109
yes it was sarcasm
>>78956094
Yes, goyim, just ignore all the legitimate points and the lies by the Remain campaign!
>>78955076
Shhhh, you can't help the blue pilled that have taken the bait
>>78956214
kek
>>78955408
Yep, this is exactly what's happening. In order to understand economics, you have to understand people, and people are spiteful to people that piss them off.
>>78956236
>he thinks there aren't cons on the leave campaign
Both sides voting on this referendum weren't educated and voted out of pure impulse. Democracy sucks cause it can be maniuplated
>>78956109
When your currency that does not rappresent your state at all that was inflated by Germany disappear and you are forced to met reality, you disappear as well. Clearly there is no previous case of this happening so you can say that nobody knows of it will happen. But let's be honest, it will.
The solution is not separation, it's fiscal unification
>>78947781
You have xenophobes low class twats who can't even pass their free education.
You have pensionable age NIMBYs with all the wealth who don't like foreigners.
Then you have ordinary people who bought hook, line and sinker the lies of the exit campaign.
Sovereignty? Come on, travel around the EU, every country is radically different. The EU does NOT dominate our lives negatively. Absolute bullshit if you believe such hyperbole.
Now we have only started to pay for the idiots.
I'm still hoping that nobody pulls the trigger on Article 50.
You have to ask yourself, why not pull it immediately? Don't give me this "let's take out time" bullshit. Two years is more than enough (the trade deals will take up to 10 years so are irrelevant).
pro-tip: they will never pull the finger on Article 50.
>>78956907
>WAAAAAAAH: The post
Your country will be following us m8.
>>78949071
lol you do realise how many financial decisions globally are based on S&P credit ratings?
You show a typical Brexiter's grasp of basic economics.
>>78956907
The EU does not dominate our lives negatively. It does of course dominate our lives positively, and protects us from anti-Semites and Islamophobes who want to harm us with their dangerous thoughts.
>>78947781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgxki8_R968
Just remember, the above isn't coming back until you get rid of the "Europeans"
>>78957081
I work with credit ratings all day, so yes, I'm aware they're AAA bullshit. Get lost.
>>78947781
It's brilliant m8. By 2020 we'll be free again, and not a moment too soon.
It's sent a huge shockwave of anti-globalism around the globe, bolstered nationalism, helped Trump, and inspired a lot of other EU slaves to consider getting up off their knees.
Frankly i'm most excited that the EU Human rights court no longer being able to fuck our shit right up.
>>78957081
America doesn't have a AAA rating. I don't see their position of world dominance being challenged any time soon.
Our government bond yields (how cheaply we can borrow money) are at their lowest level ever recorded, flying right in the face of S&P...
Actually, now that I think about it, our rating is now the same as yours...
>>78957081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_credit-rating_downgrades
Clearly, the US government is worse off then Britain, by your own claims.
How exactly does a credit agency evaluate a nationstate's ability to pay off debts with a straight face? Britain is a regional power and the idea of 'poor British credit' is nonsense, chap.
>>78957466
Except Strasburg has nothing to do with European Union she UK will still follow it
>>78956640
Woah, hold it there, I didn't say that there were not lies on the leave campaign. The £350 million going to the NHS, as I said, was complete bullshit and it's also revealing itself that none of the leave campaigners are going to limit immigration. Regardless, the UK is a democracy,, so if the immigration claims are actually false and the new government doesn't enact them then a new government can, and the same goes for those £350 million a week.
What I did say was that the remain campaign was complete and utter bullshit, with NOTHING but lies and absolutely no advantages. It doesn't even guarantee a risk-free existence because no-one knows what the EU's future looks like.
I mean, let's face it. The EU has at least one crisis in one form of another for the past decade, to sum up:
>The EU constitution rejection
>The 2008 recession and economic crisis in Europe
>Immediately followed by a European debt crisis
>Another fucking recession and European economic crisis
>Followed by ANOTHER debt crisis
>ANOTHER debt crisis and uncertainty about Greece's bailouts
>Refugee crisis kicks into full gear
>Followed by the Brexit
>Soon to have another debt crisis
The EU is absolutely fucked. There is very little that can hold together a union which has such frequent crisis, economic problems and political crisis.
>>78956812
>When your currency that does not rappresent your state at all that was inflated by Germany disappear and you are forced to met reality, you disappear as well.
This is exactly what is happening with the Euro right now. Because the Euro is far too overvalued for the southern European economies, they are continually falling into a deeper and deeper recession, with the complete destruction of the already small middle class and disappearance of public services. Combine it with the "common subsidies policies", excessive import tariffs and excessive economic regulation and you have a serious problem that will not be fixed for a long time.
>>78957565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFzMLZAXEM
>>78957731
Human rights court, not strasburg
>>78957762
Yes, it's a problem. But staying means recession that could be inverted with fiscal unification. Leaving is a death mark
>>78947781
100,000% rise in hired shills.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9845442/EU-to-set-up-euro-election-troll-patrol-to-tackle-Eurosceptic-surge.html
>>78957081
M8 if you knew anything about economics, you wouldn't be a socialist, would you? Or at least buy into socialist rhetoric.
Our credit rating is now in line with everybody elses. What was their excuse for falling, eh? Economic uncertainty will continue until the negotiations over A50 are complete, so probably April next year. We can still step right back up again, ours didn't drop due to overspending.
In any case, we have a £1.6TR overdraft we are trying to whitle down, we don't want Westminster borrowing another penny if it can be helped. With control over the border and a whole raft of legislation designed to cut back welfare immigration, we'll manage it.
Low wages pakis out, waifus in.
>>78952200
>also you're not British just by being born in Britain, that's idiotic. British soil isn't magical, and doesn't magically make people British.
>
>Blood and ancestry make a person British.
>Lord Mansfield, "the air of England is too pure for any slave to breathe
>Dumb leafposter, "I'M TEH DECIDER"
>>78953804
Why are people so near sighted? Those same people don't seem to remember that the pound started to dip before there was even a clear winner in sight and sky rocketed right at the beginning when it looked like remain would win.
It was literally the referendum itself that caused this uncertainty not the result, and shit heads like this https://twitter.com/richardbranson aren't helping by continuing to fear monger after the result has been set in stone. It's only continuing to plummet now (as it is across Europe) because speculators are moving numbers around more than usual.
>>78958057
I'm sorry, but if I've already ceded my country's ability to (in the hypothetical scenario that Norway is part of the EU) repeal regulations and legislation, have a supreme court, have a currency regulated by my own government, having the national government able to subsidise and losing control of naval economic areas I'd rather NOT also cede the ability to control the government budget.
I would rather leave and see my country prosper outside the EU (provided it isn't run by a bunch of retards in government), because believe it or not, I think every European country has that potential and the Brexit will prove it.
>>78958229
a million laws and clever pronouncements from powerful men will never make Arabs British, Anon
(it's genetic)
>>78958326
It's absolutely retarded. I am confident that the British government and the Bank of England will make an appropriate response to ease fears however.
>>78958229
Yes, that statement on the abolition of slavery in Britain clearly implies that the speaker rejected the concept of ethnic nationhood. /pol/ BTFO
>>78954327
>100.000 jobs to be lost in the City
>90% of the financial companies think about moving to mainland Europe
>Barclays stock lost -11% this morning
>Royal Bank of Scotland saw their stock suspended for an hour
You must be working as the cofee boy because London is on suicide watch atm
>>78958394
Lol are you aware that the other day Norway signed an agreement that pretty much said that their banks will be managed by the eu?
Norway is the first country to implement whatever eu says. The only reason your did not joined yet it's because of you started importing food from Easter Europe your local economy would be wiped.
>>78958774
>Lol are you aware that the other day Norway signed an agreement that pretty much said that their banks will be managed by the eu?
Source? Seen nothing of it. Would not support such a concept either.
>The only reason your did not joined yet it's because of you started importing food from Easter Europe your local economy would be wiped.
Agriculture is a really, really tiny portion of our economy. That is simply untrue.
>>78957762
>Woah, hold it there, I didn't say that there were not lies on the leave campaign. The £350 million going to the NHS, as I said, was complete bullshit and it's also revealing itself that none of the leave campaigners are going to limit immigration. Regardless, the UK is a democracy,, so if the immigration claims are actually false and the new government doesn't enact them then a new government can, and the same goes for those £350 million a week.
So far the odds are against an immigration reform and idk what will have with the NHS. We can only assume and gamble on the result. With our without the EU, such things could have been fixed by the government.
>What I did say was that the remain campaign was complete and utter bullshit, with NOTHING but lies and absolutely no advantages. It doesn't even guarantee a risk-free existence because no-one knows what the EU's future looks like.
Complete and utter bullshit with no advantages is a strong thing to say about the UK staying in the EU. There are quite a bit of advantages that the UK gets from the policies of the EU.
Also, crisises are quite common for every country or union. If I was more educated on your memearrows, I would have maybe given examples or show why they aren't really that relevant.
>The EU is absolutely fucked. There is very little that can hold together a union which has such frequent crisis, economic problems and political crisis.
Like you said earlier, it is unsure. So far, the EU is stable enough to not collapse.
The ""United"" Kingdom on the other hand has a potential to collapse.
Time will show. Anything we assume about the future is marely a gamble.
>>78958774
>Norway is the first country to implement whatever eu says.
By the way, this is bullshit. Our government CHOOSES to do so, it is not forced to do it like a member state is. The reason our government is unwilling is because it would limit our access to the single market.
I am personally hoping our government pays close attention to the British negotiations, as I'd like a better deal with the EU. Regardless, we've retained a lot of national rights that the EU has simply lost. The EEA is far better than being a full member.
>>78959029
Yes agriculture is small, eating is not. Everything in your stores costs the double than in Italy. If you were flooded with low cost food I would not know what would happen.
I'm looking for the article but I can't in to your language. My brother who lived there sent me a while a ago. Try looking for it, it did not reached major outlets when it got first signed
>>78948701
>Suffer economically
>Throw of Yoke of the Bureaucrats in the EU
Seems like a small price to pay to counter the globalist rhetoric and "ever closer union". Everybody and their "economic arguments" can fuck right off, "trust" in the economic market as well; that system is opaque at best and a Brexit won't do anything to truly endanger that.
Winning back your independence from a bunch of un-elected cunts, styling themselves as "democratic" leaders, whilst they dance to the tune of big businesses with the money to buy them is a good thing.
>>78959428
Yes, you got really lucky with your situation. It's really beneficial to your country. But your country is not normal either. Not everyone sits on oil deposits
>>78959428
>Our government CHOOSES to do so
The difference between being legally obliged to implement a piece of legislature, or choosing to do so out of fear of an economic shitfest, is an emotional at best - the outcome is the same.
Before
>here are the EU regulations we (you included) agreed upon
>britain whines
>EU adapts regulations somewhat for the 'special' country because they don't want to lose them
After
>here are the EU regulations we (without you) agreed upon
>britain whines
>lol, tough shit, accept it or lose market access
Good job, bongs, you voluntarily shot yourself in the foot despite everyone else telling you what a patently stupid idea it was. And now you're hobbling around going "shooting ourselves in the foot is the best thing ever! I can't believe we didn't do this before! Britain strong!"
I think the one good thing about Brexit from the Brit point of view is that their economy might turn so bad that no outsiders would want to emigrate or work there anymore.
In the end Mission Accomplished for Nigel
>>78959962
>implying the UK has to apply EU regulation when it's outside the EU
>implying the ECJ can overrule Westminster
:^)
The EU should really think about merging with China, they currently have no say in the rules China sets on it's imports.
>>78960010
Link Related
British pound could hit history-making dollar parity by end of 2016
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/british-pound-could-hit-history-making-dollar-parity-by-end-of-2016-2016-06-27
>>78959297
>The ""United"" Kingdom on the other hand has a potential to collapse.
Nope. Majority of Scots don't a second referendum, the government is unwilling to allow it, Nicola Sturgeon KNOWS that Spain would veto Scotland's entry to the EU and Scotland is extremely economically dependent on the UK. Pic related, also source on that poll:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-scotland-poll-idUSKCN0ZC14G
>Also, crisises are quite common for every country or union. If I was more educated on your memearrows, I would have maybe given examples or show why they aren't really that relevant.
They are relevant. I can point out the exact crisis that will follow in the future. There will be another debt crisis and calls for a fiscal union (as per http://static.presspublica.pl/red/rp/pdf/DokumentUE.pdf this document) to solve the issues, which will face massive resistance by multiple European nations. The consolidation to make every country join the Euro by 2020 will cause the same resistance and internal strife.
There is no end in sight for EU economic political crisis.
>>78959673
Our economy was strong before oil in a moment. And hey, well, why is Iceland doing good despite being the weakest European nation in the 2008 recession, and what's up with Switzerland?
>>78952999
OMFG U KEK !!!!
EU WILL COLLAPSE SOON FKING KEK
TRUMP 2016 !
GB2TO REDDIT PSYOP
FKING LBLUE PILLED GERMKEK
WATCH SOME MOLYNEUX TO GET URSELF RED PILLED FKING KEK
>>78956094
Everyone has missed the point of the 350 million claim. It was totally deliberate putting 350 million on that bus for the same reason Trump purposely says over the top things.
Why? Because it positions the argument such that you always win. If it had said 190 million the discussion would be over whether it was worth it. But because it was 350 million the argument against it became "hurr durr it's only 190 million!"
Only 190 million? ONLY? And thus you see why it was an excellent piece of campaigning. It made the remain camp look like they thought 190 million a week was trivial.
What was the music on /pol/ when it happened?
>>78959673
>>78960306
Proof
>>78958774
>>78958394
Is Australia not a case in point?
Fuck the EU
>>78947781
Its not
We need a PM with a back bone to ensure they give back our fishing grounds and stop them fucking us over again
Currently we have no MPs and the SNP think they are hot shit on a mountain of toxic debt
>>78959819
Still better than having far too many national rights usurped by the EU.
>>78960306
Because those are local economies. They do well if their neighbours do well. They cannot scale.
If Germany goes down, Switzerland goes down as well
>>78960619
WOW, international trade exists and landlocked nations are dependent on neighbours! Who would've thought?
>>78960586
Ok this goes beyond my knowledge. I could read about it but tomorrow I have an exam. I recognised they did well, but I still believe it cannot scale (without oil)
>>78960306
>Nope. Majority of Scots don't a second referendum, the government is unwilling to allow it, Nicola Sturgeon KNOWS that Spain would veto Scotland's entry to the EU and Scotland is extremely economically dependent on the UK. Pic related, also source on that poll:
Maybe another government can allow it. Nicola Sturgeon knows that Scotland is in a bad position to seperate, but the simple fact that the political interests of scots are infriged means that their mindset for independence to achieve those interests will be set up. This brings instability to the UK as a whole. Legislation on paper doesn't stabilize everything.
>There is no end in sight for EU economic political crisis.
Maybe, but I also don't see how the UK can survive as a stable independant state that can follow its own interests. I do not see any logic in them leaving the EU now.
>>78947781
You'll get billions.
>>78960306
>what's up with Switzerland?
Switzerland is part of Schengen, pays about €850 Million into the EU each year, and adapts most EU legislation without much hassle.
For all intents and purposes, Switzerland is an EU member that can't even restrict immigration from the EU (they've tried).
>>78960896
Well yes. Being land locked by countries 4 times as big as you allows for particular marker strategies. Those strategies cannot be replicated elsewhere. You picked that example and I said it cannot be applied to the major eu players and if they go down the small nations do the same. What did you expected
>>78961007
>I recognised they did well, but I still believe it cannot scale (without oil)
I don't understand this argument. Look at Australia, or the US, or Canada, or Japan or any other first world country outside the EU.
>>78961025
>Maybe another government can allow it.
It is completely within Westminster authority and only them. No-one is in favour of a second Scottish referendum except the SNP. The whole point of the last one from a Westminster perspective was to give them a once-in-a-lifetime chance and have them vote no. That was also the intention with the Brexit, but they didn't succeed this time.
Nicola Sturgeon is unlikely to even try when Scotland's economic basis is so poor and there's not majority support for another referendum.
>This brings instability to the UK as a whole. Legislation on paper doesn't stabilize everything.
You're right, but I'm quite certain that the British state is resilient enough to handle it.
>I do not see any logic in them leaving the EU now.
I disagree, but we will see in 10 years.
>>78961302
Yes, but the point is that you can do well outside the EU without ceding a large portion of your political ability, your currency control, your supreme court and a load of other shit.
The EU is a very important economy for the EU. I am absolutely certain that they can negotiate a much better deal than Norway or Switzerland can, and I think these two countries should pay close attention to the Brexit negotiations because we also might want to seek out the British solution, possibly with British backing.
>>78961401
>Those strategies cannot be replicated elsewhere. You picked that example and I said it cannot be applied to the major eu players and if they go down the small nations do the same. What did you expected
I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. Again, there's a lot of first world country outside the EU which have no problems with being independent, self-governing nations. The UK doesn't have to replicate the Norwegian or Swiss model perfectly, it can create its own, because it's that important to the EU.
>been searching for days
>found 0 objective facts about brexit
>entirely opinions and hundreds of contradictory opinions from "economists"
>articles that start out good end in rants about racism
>articles that start out good end in rants about muslims
what the fuck
why can't i find ONE GOOD REPORT on brexit?
>>78961935
>without ceding a large portion of your political ability
But they have. The Swiss can not even curb EU immigration due to their dependence on the European market.
>currency control
Frankenshock 2015 anyone?
>>78961716
>It is completely within Westminster authority and only them. No-one is in favour of a second Scottish referendum except the SNP. The whole point of the last one from a Westminster perspective was to give them a once-in-a-lifetime chance and have them vote no. That was also the intention with the Brexit, but they didn't succeed this time.
I don't see why if they gave a first chance for Scotland to secede, they will not make another one again. This time there is going to be more pressure on them because of the crisis that is about to happen. The political activity of the Westminster can switch anytime. Politics are flexible.
>>78962185
Sure...As long as the UK has something everyone else wants.
Oh, riiiight...
>>78947781
Imagine a house where more than dozen guys move in.
They decide that since some of them make different amounts of money, they'll all pay different amounts into the house but everything they buy can be shared with each other.
However this makes it more difficult to let people outside the house interact.
Several of the poorer members of the house keep burning their money on shit they don't need.
Suddenly Greece has so little money that several of the richest members are paying just to keep him afloat.
Meanwhile the richest bros in the house have picked up girlfriends who are taking advantage of this and collecting their own little fortune thanks to this shared trading and money. (The EU politicians)
As the house gets busier they start putting more and more rules in place.
Because the girlfriends now live in the house they're the ones that start deciding all the rules.
Some of the guys in the house complain that they are now dependant on the richer guys.
Others complain that the girls are making money whilst just making other peoples lives more difficult to please themselves.
The richer guys are always annoyed that they are having to keep the poor faggots afloat.
Finally one country says he is fed up of people dumping garbage in his room and wants to leave the house.
Then get your own girlfriend and have more influence in the house!
UK decides this is BS.
Wants out.
People bitch that he has his own garbage.
People bitch he gets a chance to share stuff in the houe.
People bitch that he gets some of the money back that he puts in.
Nigga says that's cool but he wants control of his own life again.
Decides to leave.
He's a little conflicted as he realises the initial cost of setting up in his own place will cost a lot, but will ultimately give him more control of his own life.
Other people in the house now starting to wonder if they wouldn't be better off on their own, or maybe in a house with less batshit rules.
There you go.
Whole EU in a nutshell
>>78959962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU BELGIUM?
>>78962503
>Frankenshock 2015 anyone?
I don't mean capital control. I mean the ability for the central bank to regulate the currency.
>But they have. The Swiss can not even curb EU immigration due to their dependence on the European market.
It is not even nearly as much surrendering of national rights that the actual EU member states have to put up with. The less, the better. Preferably very little, but that's not realistic for the moment and I hope to see that changed.
>>78962575
The British government absolutely cannot introduce even more market uncertainty until they actually leave.
>>78962782
>Sure...As long as the UK has something everyone else wants.
>Oh, riiiight...
You mean, the EU's ability to export to one of their most important markets with minimal or no tariffs? Yes, that's quite significant.
>>78962782
>>78962575
>>78962503
Will have to get some sleep now lads, was a nice discussion. Goodnight.
>>78962921
>The British government absolutely cannot introduce even more market uncertainty until they actually leave.
That is true. I didn't mean for Scotland to leave before article 50, though.
>>78963119
night tbqh
>>78963145
says the commie shill in the kremlin pumping far right and left extremists.
Fuck off.
>>78962414
Well, it's because a country just voluntarily left the second largest economy in the world, where they were grandfathered into to avoid clauses that other countries had to eat, under false pretenses, while everyone here keeps saying "you have to go back!"
There is not one compelling piece of evidence that shows the Brexit was good.
You could devalue your own currency and do currency swaps to stay ahead of the game -- the rest of the EU couldn't. You didn't have to follow the Schenden accords -- every other country did.
They paid a total of 91 billion US dollars for the right to access the open market that brought you trillions every year, at no extra taxes.
The question is, what the FUCK does the UK have that we can't get from the EU or ourselves -- you know, because we have free trade agreements with the EU.
>>78954740
And markets were declining globally.
>>78963297
oй вeй
>>78947781
The more unskilled poor people you bring into your country from the third world who dont speak your language and do not want to speak your language, and want to maintain their own culture without working, the richer and more vibrant your country is.
>>78956094
The point is that we can spend £350 million a week on ANYTHING, NOT THAT THE NHS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE GETTING £350 MILLION A WEEK EXTRA FOREVER.
>>78947781
Working as intended.
>>78957081
Credit ratings are nonsense. Government borrowing rates for UK PLC are at historical lows. That's a hella lot of confidence.
>>78950196
>Merica' rekt
I stand with Brexit. Fight the good fight.
>>78963362
It's useless. Deep down inside they know they've fucked up, but they're stubborn and proud and refuse to admit they've been lied to and conned by Boris and the rest. Well, that, or they're just trolling. Or genuinely retarded.
>>78950196
80% of Americans supported the Brexit, faggot. You've got more support from us than literally anyone in the world.
>>78962782
British manufacturing is actually incredibly important. Airbus can't make a single aircraft without British firms and businesses, for example.
>>78947781
muh sovereign empire tho
>>78963780
It's unfortunate, but it actually makes my plans easier. With an inflated pound and no Euro to get in the way, I can start up my company over there and pay people a pittance. They need the jobs, I need the cheap labor. Before, I'd have to go to China, but now? When the EU pulls the funds to pay for Wales and the UK can't keep it up, I'll sweep into those cheap, cheap, unfinished buildings, finish them up...I mean, they were getting it for free...
>>78950977
Underrated post
>>78964348
not rly
>>78948510
>>78948701
scare tactics by NWO keynesians
>>78947781
The UK is a democratic society and by entering into the EU we've lost the ability to govern ourselves, what we get our of brexit is sovereignty which is the ability to decide your own fate. That is really the most principled position you can take on the EU.
It looks like it was done just in time because now we know of the plans to turn the rest of the EU into a superstate which is exactly the kind of thing many principled brexiteers were worried about, things such as an EU army, EU central banking system, etc.
Honestly most of the arguments about specifics such as econonmy changing for better or worse are just distractions to pull in the average voter who isn't principled about democracy, they could go either way in reality the economy might be better or worse, but we shouldn't let fear of what is uncertain stop us from protecting values that made the country great to begin with.
>>78957762
>The £350 million going to the NHS, as I said, was complete bullshit
No no no, you guys just don't get it. This was excellent campaigning. It was always the plan to say 350 million even though they know it's not the whole story.
Why? The same reason Trump says over the top things, it switches the dialog to something where you are strong.
By saying 350 million the argument against it became "it's only 190 million!" In fact John Oliver in his last segment said exactly that "only 190 million!" They are completely unaware that they've been utterly played.
Instead of the argument being over whether the 190 million was worth it the argument became "its ONLY 190 million" and the public were all like "wtf do you mean only?" This was absolute genius and everyone on the opposing side fell for it.
>>78965092
While I do see your point, I feel a lot of Brits see themselves on the high horse of democracy here, fully ignoring the fact that our shitty FPTP skews elections results absolutely horrifically, we have an upper house of unelected officials, and we will be having an unelected new prime minister..
>>78948510
Don't worry, Hillary Cunton will be the next president.
Money will go society an NHS /ESPech Mental Health .. !
My shrink says this is cummin ... more than 15min will get 2 hours ..lol an proper care team ..
>>78965092
When will this "EU CONTROLLS US AND OUR LAWS" meme end? It is extremely overexaggarated.
Also, economy is one of the leading factors for a nation and its independence. This is why arguing on economics is much more relevant than someone's skin color or someone else's political agenda.
>>78965092
Yes, well done, you've regained your national sovereignty, and all it took was access to the biggest market in the world.
Go and exchange your savings for dollars, you'll be glad you did by the end of the year.
>>78964551
Shut up, Bulgaria. I hope someone annexes you soon... Again.
>>78965693
You cannot annex the eternal Bulgar. We will exist forever.
>>78965646
>After we voted leave Germany and France already discussing a political union going ahead
Enjoy being a state
>>78965320
I think you don't understand how our parliamentary democracy works.
1. In each constituency people elect one person to be their representative in the house of commons.
2. The party with the most representatives picks one of their group to lead and form the government.
3. These people have no real extra power than any other member of parliament.
Unless you live in Witney, you didn't vote for David Cameron.
The second house can only put off legislation for, iirc, 4 years max.
On FPTP, it allows local independent candidates to become representatives. Proportional systems make this impossible, it also stops the representatives being directly accountable to their electorate since it's no longer the people putting you forward, the party picks representatives on behalf of the people.
In FPTP, if David Cameron didn't win his constituency seat he wouldn't be prime minister.
>>78965862
I actually would enjoy it as long as it benefits the people of my country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLJSeeC904k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_-KoBiBG0
A centralized superstate is the only hope for Europe to survive in the modern geopolitical enviroment.
>>78951594
What about the racism and sexual abuse the 1400 white British girls received in Rotherham?
Instead tonight we have Channel 4 news focusing the narrative on the "racist leavers" who left a laminated card saying "polish go home" in a kids school bag/letterbox.
Lets assume that this kid did receive this card and didnt make it up like clock bomb boy, I think to myself what right wing knuckle dragger would print off an order to leave the UK on to a card and then laminate it? Then i think, when was the last time i used a laminating machine, and i remember, the only time i have used on is in school. So it is another kid trolling his classmates. Not some right wing conspiracy against polski smak.
The Polish cultural centre in London has "fuck off back to Poland" written across its front in a gloriously flamboyant style. This is C4 prime time news as well. A man happens to be filmed going in there with flowers to say sorry and offer support. He cries like a woman. The woman he gives the flowers to is not used to seeing a man cry like a baby, probably due to the fact Polish men are proper blokes, and looks surprised. The reporter is creaming his pants. No one but me is suspicious of the flamboyant graffiti style, but im well aware that an anarchist, or lefty wth a grudge would do this to help fuel the narrative that all Leavers are racist. When the conservatives won the left were out spraying everything to make streets look grottier than they were because "nasty Tories".
GREAT BRITAIN is the greatest country ever to have been on this planet. We made all you fuck what you are today, we are back in the game, you will see.
>>78966307
fucks*
>>78966307
... And before you, it was the Romans.
I'm OK with this.
>>78966854
No single country has had the influence on the world Great Britain has. Thank you for reply to me in English. Very thoughtful of you.
>>78956907
>The EU does NOT dominate our lives negatively
Kanker verrader, ga terug naar Marokko.
62% van ons volk stemde tegen associatie met Oekraine. 64% stemde tegen de europese grondwet.
Wij verliezen ons land en onze cultuur aan kanker durka durkas zoals jij. Sterf.
>>78967093
>>78966854
Implying any of you speak a second or third language ..
>>78966009
Well... if you consider receiving a % of the annual muslim immigrant influx a benefit to your people, sure.
>>78967093
U S A
>>78967413
I speak 5, kameraad.
>>78968096
Bulgaria rekts UK in 3 letters.
New record::::::::::
>>78967413
I speak 3
>>78968096
Industrial revolution.
>>78963874
This. Ive been blasting Rule Britannia in my car since brexit
>be britbong
>get rekt by eu
>get utterly destroyed by a team of dentists
>>78968481
3 letters and 3 links
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Doiran_(1916)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Doiran_(1917)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Doiran_(1918)
>>78948984
>britains economy is exactly the same as it was last week
you know that uk is still in EU right?
>>78968610
Yea but no. English is spoken world wide because of my asshole country bullying the rest of the world.
If it's any constellation, the US is your bastard son.
>>78950179
>nobody wants to join the EU except shitholes like Albania and Turkey, have you missed the past ten years?
maybe because the big countries are ALREADY in EU?
herp derp nobody wants to join USA
>>78952952
why are you so buthurt over EU?
>>78969065
Norway, Iceland and Switzerland constantly vote it down. The Swiss economy is a touch stronger than Bulgaria's, sunshine.
Not even Serbia is interested in joining anymore.
>>78953469
>Italy gains much more that what sends to Brussels. As do most of the poor countries.
And it costs us a lot of money. You should genuinely not be surprised if the Netherlands leaves after the next elections. Wilders is already in the lead.
Elections are March 15, 2017. Bye bye Italy. Good luck with trying to turn the Euro into the lira.
>>78953804
>EU already declared openness to trade and said it would be "swift and orderly"
are you stupid?
EU only said that they will treat UK as Norway giving the EEA deal...
so now uk will still PAY EU, provide open circulation of people and follow EU rules.
all of that without having any say in anything
>>78969065
>countries who want to join the EU want to have the economic support of the big countries who have much higher GDP
It's almost like you're saying dey needz munnyz for dem programz
>>78948987
>xenophobe
Xenophobia: Xenophobia is the fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange
So fear of the unknown or change... You fear for the *unknown* future of the UK... Who's the REAL xenophobe?
>>78969316
OMG you can t be real
norway and iceland are part of EEA and switzerland is part of EFTA
how can you be so ignorant?
>>78960516
URGENT REQUIRED
>>78948701
Spoken like a true Jew. Think long term m8. A cheaper pound means we can all now buy more British goods which will inevitably boost it back to a certain level. America's credit rating had been downgraded... and nothing happened because of it. Also it is important to remember that mortgage backed securities in 2008 in the US were rated AAA by the various credit rating idustries (which, we all know they did not deserve that rating). No doubt about the EU trying to punish Britain though. The Brits will have to wait that out. The free movement thing will only be accepted by the Labour Party if they get into power again. Hopefully that will be never though and the EU will collapse by then.
>You win nothing and lose a lot.
They lose a bit short term economically, but gain freedom, liberty, independence, and much more including billions of pounds they can reinvest in their economy each year.
Quit being a fucking Jew and support your fellow western country's freedom and national sovereignty.
>>78969897
Keep moving those goalposts, Jüde.
You said most big countries are already in the EU. Provably false.
>>78969964
March of the British Grenadiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIVSpY8xY9I
>>78969474
>And it costs us a lot of money.
are you autistic?
italy
pay 17bn
recieve 12bn
net= -5bn
netherland
pay 6.5bn
receive 2.26bn
net= -4.24
so shut up faggot
Seems unlikely that it will be beneficiary.
The idea of accessing the EU single market WITHOUT also agreeing on the free travel from and to EU countries, is extremely unlikely.
What seems likely, is that the people of UK voted for Boris Johnson, a man 6 months prior was for remain. He'll do anything and everything to become PM.
>>78970214
have you ANY idea what EEA and EFTA are?
get an education
>>78970513
yep quite clear to everyone except the leavers...
they still think to be special
>>78970508
>the only costs to the EU are direct contributions
Our pension funds have lost ~50 billion due to ECB inflation policy this year. Greece has cost us 28 billion.
The euro has been the cause of the perpetually low growth in the eurozone, you stupid cunt. The contributions to the EU are not by a long shot the only costs of EU membership.
Furthermore
>Italy, 60.5 million inhabitants
>Netherlands, 17 million inhabitants
We pay more per capita.
>>78970613
Yes, they are not the European Union. They are treaties *with* the EU.
Fuck off you disingenuos liar.
>>78970513
>implying Denmark isnt also on the shortlist of countries likely to leave
>>78947781
>redpill me
Literally: "I can't think for myself. Spoon feed me bullshit infographs about race and IQ that's been debunked 100 times."
Reported
>>78971007
those infographs were never debunked once
>>78951035
nigel farage admitted that the 350 GBP is not going to happen, one of the main reasons britons voted for exit was proved to be a lie, and farage himself admitted it
>>78970988
It's not gonna happen. A majority of the both members of the parlament and the general population are against are Dexit.
Neither would it benefit our small country if we did.
>>78970988
OMFG
They have to PAY EU, follow EU rules and support the free circulation of EU citizens WITHOUT being able to decide ANYTHING in EU
>>78971813
Yes, and? You are just constantly shifting goal posts. You argued all major countries worth joining the EU, had joined.
They are not in the EU. Stop lying.
>>78971806
You might change your mind after more countries leave. Like us.
>>78972019
>They are not in the EU
Except they basically are.
>>78947781
>be forced the trade within and only within the EU
>leave
>can trade with anyone
Get hype this is not only good for Britain but all the country's it will trade with, flag related
>>78972134
yes....they are EU countries with less rights than normal eu countries...
>>78971723
Shh
Let them meme around, thinking le immigrants will leave and muh nhs will be better
>>78972134
>>78972374
They are not formal members. Not in EU = not a member. Therefore the man was lying.
>>78971723
350 million is fucking pennies in comparison the the NHS budget
Also, it wasn't actually Farage who promised the funds.
The vast majority of people who voted exit were voting solely on immigration.
Pros:
1. Symbolic victory for anti-immigration nationalists even if its effect on immigration is minimal.
2. UK's unique membership in the EU (which has been broadly expanding its power) was supposed to protect them from being tyrannized by Brussels, but all it really did was prevent the UK from having much of a say in the union.
3. Rattles some cages that very much need rattling.
Cons:
1. Market is afraid of uncertainty and what Brexit actually means for the market is VERY uncertain.
2. The EU is butt-hurt and out to create unnecessary strain on the European relationships by punishing Britain for creating unnecessary strain on the European relationships (that's European diplomacy for you).
3. Even though it's a complex result to a complex and principled question, simplistic media coverage of the debate and result that refuses to acknowledge the problems in the EU and used racism and xenophobia as its primary axis (both pro and con) just further encourages unyielding partisanship and poor voter education.
>>78972646
go back to play with your dolls...
>>78972782
too bad that to use the EU free market (as leavers want) you HAVE to provide free circulation of people
BONGS CAN NOW CLAIM TO BE FREEDOM BROS WITH US AMERICANS! FREEDOM SHALL REIGN SUPREME! POST YOUR FREEDOM FACES!
>>78948987
In a way it's worse for USA.. think about it.
Your state department has to learn German.
There are quite a few smart people in the UK (say as many as the East Coast)
now all those annoying EU start-up chocking laws will be gone.
In short the 5th biggest economy wants to be a global competitor again. say what you like about us.. we are better at business then the football.
>>78948510
>We're reaping the rewards of trifling with meme magic.
If I win hundreds of millions in a lottery I will build a temple to Kek and a town of /pol/acks to worship him.
>>78972782
>>78973681
and additionally obey all those EU regulations you hate so much.
and also pay for access(same as norway), but this time without any rebates....
>>78975884
But only on products being exported to the EU.
Anyone got the infograph of what countries put in financially compared to what they get out? Has a list of all 27/28 countries (Poland get a good deal).
>>78975991
no
single market means single market.
all the players have to play by the same rules.
otherwise uk companies would have an advantage over e.g. german companies
>>78947781
After 2017 to leave the eu you would need a majority vote from the eu for you to be able to leave i.e. no fucker would ever get out. Lisbon treaty was a piece of evil.
>>78975991
>only
50% export from uk is to eu
>>78947781
The pound, the euro and the dollar (perhaps even the yuan but I dont know anything about that) will reach the point of being equal.
This is when the crash 'starts'. (no it wont be fallout 4 in 5 minutes nor will it be the last of us in 20, it'll take months before it'll get out of hand)
Its a nice sign to people that want freedom, but the EU/elite will use this to show the people what happens when you want freedom, thus the UK will be fucked over.
Hopefully you'll be strong enough to fight back.
>>78976359
yeah, and now on the other 50% you don't have to follow 50,000 retarded regulations
>>78976593
if they want access to the single market they have to follow all the regulations even if they do not export the products to the EU
>>78967107
Daarom moeten we helaas samenwerken en ook daadwerkelijk wat shit doen. Niet aankomen met stemmen, we weten allebei dat dat niet werkt, anders zaten we hier nu niet..
>>78976593
yes because now uk will produce the same stuff both following EU regulations and UK regulations
and then sell the ones with eu regulation to EU and the other to the world...
so much sense rotfl
>>78947781
It appears that Brexit was intentional. The UK has always stood in the way of closer integration. They are the major force in opposition to a super state. So Brexit happens, they won't stop it, even though they could, and now a super state plan is announced. Seems to me that Brexit was designed to jettison the biggest obstacle to the super state. This wasn't really the people's will. This was a concerted effort to mislead the public during the campaign with false promises to essentially kick out the UK. This would also make sense as to why the EU has been up fornt about the UK starting the process immediately. They don't want any takesy backsies. They want the UK out so that Germany and France can strong arm the weaker members into this integrated super state. /conspiracy
