What is the libertarian rebutal to this satiric pic?
Or libertarianism is just flaw to begin?
you may walk into any country, do business, rent land/a house, buy land/a house - if you don't own the land directly you may not use force against others unless its on behalf of the legitimate property owner in defense of them or their property.
>>78902092
>you may
slippery slope
Why you can ''invade'' the country borders but nobody can ''invade'' your property particular borders?
So that is it. Libertarians can't answer that simple question. This ideology is just a failure.
>>78901785
borders are actually a common property of the peoples that pay taxes to have them enforced
one of the few semi-useful institutions of the states could be replaced by a private agreement that does the same in a free society though
>>78902092
who gets to define who owns the land? Surely if I have the ability to seize and defend the land then I can call it mine?
face it, you just pay a "land tax" aka protection fee to the government so they will come defend your land against any meanies.
>Libertarians will argue that they own the land
How do you know that whoever sold it to you rightfully owned it? Or the person who sold it to him? And so forth? By what authority is land owned as private property and by what means can it be proven?
Any ideology other than national socialism and fascism is wrong and needs to have all traces removed from history so the Jews don't get any tricky ideas.
>>78905798
just change ''.gov'' to ''.inc''.
So what is the point? So if the govern become ''private'' then the borders can't be invaded?
>>78906140
people can hire a new enforcement agencie if the old one starts importing millions of nogs
there will not be as many monopolies
probably
>>78906032
>Libertarians will argue that they own the land
The nation own the land too.
>By what authority is land owned as private property and by what means can it be proven?
Because the state garantee a piece of land in their propery. Without a state there is no thing as private property. They just argument against themselves.
>>78906032
>By what authority is land owned as private property and by what means can it be proven?
By a title or deed. Is everyone fucking 9 yrs old here? Ever heard of a "real estate agent"? Property taxes?
>>78901785
>>78905944
>Libertarians
>Don't believe in nations
A libertarian society still has a military, police and judicial system. It is about individual rights.
The only legitimate functions of government in a libertarian society are protecting the individuals from external (military) or internal (police and courts) threats to those individual rights and liberties.
A libertartian society would allow trade and movement across borders provided that people weren't infringing on the rights of others. There would be no welfare, and or other government programs in a libertarian society, so migrants would be freely crossing the border to engage in voluntary transactions.
>>78906354
>freedom
>good
spotted the kike
>>78901785
You're confusing libterarians with Anarchists.
>>78906285
I see no problem if there are a monopolie to solve this question.
If the gov open the borders and the nation don't want it, just change the governors to make they close the borders.
There is no sense in ''contract'' a private agencie to make this service and principally WHO would contract?
>>78902528
Because I have a gun. People are welcome to try and take what is mine but they shouldn't be protected when acting like a favela monkey gets them killed like one.
Covenant communities
>>78901785
>it's a libertarians=ancaps episode.
>>78906680
>WHO would contract
people who dont want niggers in their communities
>>78906354
>A libertarian society still has a military, police and judicial system.
How? Those things depends on state.
>The only legitimate functions of government in a libertarian society are protecting the individuals
You talk like the government is a separate entity, just no. The government is just composed by this same individuals.
>A libertartian society would allow trade and movement across borders provided that people weren't infringing on the rights of others.There would be no welfare, and or other government programs in a libertarian society, so migrants would be freely crossing the border to engage in voluntary transactions.
Immigrants are not traders, if they cross the border and want to stay, how you could avoid this?
>>78906728
You have a gun to protect your property, The nation have a army to protect your property. How is it different?
>>78907012
So it is the nation and then it becomes a state again.
>>78907046
>if they cross the border and want to stay, how you could avoid this
Who gives a shit if they stay? There would be no gibs me dat handouts in a libertarian society so they would have to work, buy a house, and not violate the NAP, in which case they are positively contributing to the economy.
>>78907186
yeah
but without jews in the middle of it
>>78907239
and you dont have to enter into the covenant without your own consent
>>78907206
All the White Trash and niggers and spics that leech off of welfare and are funded by the state would be gone in this type of society. If you can't sustain a life for yourself then you are either homeless and will die, or will go back to whereever you came from
>>78901785
There isn't one.
>>78907350
I would have pointed out all of the logical fallacies in that image, but then I saw the flag.
>>78907206
>There would be no gibs me dat handouts in a libertarian society so they would have to work, buy a house, and not violate the NAP, in which case they are positively contributing to the economy.
It's not a good idea rely on voluntaritie of people, principally foreigners who have no roots with the place. They are more propense to lazy, to steal and to destroy the sense of communitie.
>>78907239
I don't see how the jews are included in this process.
>>78907532
middle man minority that uses elites to extract resourcess from the peasants
if you are not sworn to a king or government who protects them there is no place for them
>>78907327
> If you can't sustain a life for yourself then you are either homeless and will die
Or they will just steal from the locals or maybe kill to survive. The more immigrant, the most violent is the place.
>>78901785
>Not knowing a difference between "Libertarianism" and "Anarcho-Capitalism"
Libertarianism acknowledges a national identity and some critical roles of the government. Libertarianism indeed advocates a minimum interference of the government in our daily business, but it does not necessarily mean that Libertarianism wants a total anarchy. To secure freedom of every individual of our society, Libertarianism strongly recommends the government to protect its borders.
Now, Anarcho-Capitalism completely denies such activities since they push the liberty to extreme and don't accept a thing such as a national identity. They want the total competition of everyone without any interference and Anarcho-Capitalist believes that could draw the best outcome for everyone.
>>78907453
>principally foreigners who have no roots with the place. They are more propense to lazy, to steal and to destroy the sense of communitie
No, America is a nation built on working immigrants, there would be no lazy immigrants coming here asking for handouts and free shit like they are now. If they do then great, people in a libertarian society would not put up with thievery. The only immigrants that would survive are the hard working ones.
I think you're missing the point. There would also be segregated gated communites for those that wish to be seperate. Want to start an all-white neighboorhood and not let anyone else in, great you can do that, because the people are free and not governed by jews.
>>78907651
>Or they will just steal from the locals or maybe kill to survive
Great fucking idea in a society that would be heavily armed. You also seem to think that there would be no police, which just isn't the case. Plus, gated communites etc...
You all need to get the fuck out, the whole planet is mine because I said so. If I see any one of you cunts ill stab you to death and then eat your heart.
- John Mcafee
>>78907627
That's corporativism. If you remove the gov, still appears cartels that are basically the same thing.
Libertarians that beleive in open borders are idiotic.
>>78907728
>No, America is a nation built on working immigrants
These immigrants were just colonizers. They did not have to assimilate to the local culture, they just maked a new country in a new land. It is very different from immigrants who goes to sites already concises and established.
>The only immigrants that would survive are the hard working ones.
Lazy and thievers exist and survive. It's more easy this way of life.
>There would also be segregated gated communites for those that wish to be seperate. Want to start an all-white neighboorhood and not let anyone else in, great you can do that, because the people are free and not governed by jews.
Exact because people are free to goes any place they want that it is not possible.
>>78901785
Retarded jungle ape confusing libertarianism with ancap shit, lol
>>78907812
If there are no borders, there are not any police to patrol any border. It is every one for himself. Yes the society is heavily armed but the thievers are heavily armed too.
Explain why one must follow the NAP
>>78908667
>If there are no borders, there are not any police to patrol any border. It is every one for himself. Yes the society is heavily armed but the thievers are heavily armed too.
Brazil-Bro I don't think you understand how this works. Not trying to be patronizing, but you should really read up a little bit more on Libertarianism, different types of libertarianism, and an-capism.
In a libertarian society there would be borders, and border police, immigration would however be a lot easier.
Explain to me how a band of immigrants would be able to afford any weapons if they don't work?
I don't see the problem with this picture. Since the state don't own any land, all land in the country is private property.
The state have no say in who can come and go, only the owners.
>>78909038
>Explain to me how a band of immigrants would be able to afford any weapons if they don't work?
contraband
>>78909276
> all land in the country is private property.
Private property from who?
>>78909038
The same fucking way they do now.
Threadly reminder that libertarianism is not anarcho-capitalism.
>To the free man, the country is the collection of individuals who compose it, not something over and above them. He is proud of a common heritage and loyal to common traditions. But he regards government as a means, an instrumentality, neither a grantor of favors and gifts, nor a master or god to be blindly worshipped and served. He recognizes no national goal except as it is the consensus of the goals that the citizens severally serve. He recognizes no national purpose except as it is the consensus of the purposes for which the citizens severally strive.
>The free man will ask neither what his country can do for him nor what he can do for his country. He will ask rather "What can I and my compatriots do through government" to help us discharge our individual responsibilities, to achieve our several goals and purposes, and above all, to protect our freedom? And he will accompany this question with another: How can we keep the government we create from becoming a Frankenstein that will destroy the very freedom we establish it to protect? Freedom is a rare and delicate plant. Our minds tell us, and history confirms, that the great threat to freedom is the concentration of power. Government is necessary to preserve our freedom, it is an instrument through which we can exercise our freedom; yet by concentrating power in political hands, it is also a threat to freedom.
>>78901785
>>78901785
that is a strawman
you do realise that these tards freely share their home with these subhumans or even invite them to have sex.
http://www.thelocal.it/20160114/man-arrested-over-american-womans-murder-in-florence-report
>>78914673
>muh govorment opression
Be glad they deported muslim shits and banned burkas.
>>78915673
I am glad the government mostly does its job, and doesn't interfere with the voluntary border patrols.
But the whole reason we have to deal with this is the suicidal social policy of western welfare states.
>>78901785
no border libertarianism is retarded, the nationstate is the best invention since the wheel, why give up on it.
>>78901785
The individual.
An individual can have property, a government should not.
>>78901785
you don't generally need to disprove a satirical strawman
you can just laugh at it; nobody will punish you
>>78906728
>Because I have a gun. People are welcome to try and take what is mine but they shouldn't be protected when acting like a favela monkey gets them killed like one.
Eventually wouldn't big cartels with many men with guns form and start making people pay "protection fees" to prevent themselves from getting killed and having their land stolen?
>>78918342
The roads belongs to who?
>>78918342
The natural state of nature is libertarian and it'll lead to the same structures you see today, an elite that rules over shit, that is rightfully theirs and change the rules of their property to their advantage.
