Why exactly is it so bad?
Do you want to be murdered over a sack of potatoes?
>>78898483
because being anti capitalist is just pants-on-head retarded. i'm not an ancap, but to look at the realities of the rojava experiment - it's fucking shit and they all tried to do what bookchin wrote about. anarchy as an idea is fantastic, but bickering over economics is retarded as economics are matters of personal preference and limiting one's personal preference in "anarchy" on such matters doesn't make you much of an anarchist imo
>>78898483
I have a friend who is a literal anti-police anarchist who owns guns, open carries, etc.
He got the shit beat of him and his house got robbed. He called the police.
He got in a car crash. He got saved by a police officer and then sued the guy who hit him in court. benefiting from our legal system.
Fuck anarchists. They can't walk the walk. They are just BARELY one step above communists. Both are shit-tier.
It's was so satisfying watching him get fucked up.
>>78898483
>"Hey guys what if we just didn't have government"
>'Okay, sounds good'
>[IF MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY OF PEACE AND TOLERANCE]
>Everyone immediately forms racial cliques and start murdering eachother
>[IF HATEFUL AND BIGOTED HOMOGENIOUS COMMUNITY OF RACISM]
>Time passes
>Someone makes a government
>The unorganized peons can't stop him because he's organized and they're not
At its very best, anarchism is destined to give way to a form of government, because humans naturally form collectives and groups.
At its worst, you get a 3rd world shithole.
Why would anarchists be against capitalism or borders?
That's communism, not anarchism.
>>78898723
He's a American he could get murdered because he looked at a black the wrong way
>>78899037
This, right here.
>>78898483
because anarchists
>>78898483
Anarcho -communists are a funny bunch. They tell anarcho-capitalists they are not real anarchists because the ancaps believe in hierarchies yet the commies believe in democracy which is a hierarchy by no uncertain terms.
They use this definition of anarchy. "A system in which there are no illegitimate hierarchies." and they say this definition does not apply to anarcho capitalists because ancaps believe the rich have a right to rule.
I find many flaws in this thinking but most pronounced is the fact that they don't understand that without the initiation of force companies only get rich by servicing humanity and being paid. Which to me seems like a very legitimate hierarchy as opposed to mob rule by a bunch of commie fags trying to seize the means of production.
it's not that bad if you have the equipment to run a personal army or something.
>>78898483
Because every anarchist society is either Marxist (non-free, based on societal pressure) or is doomed to immediate failure, because the first band of armed goons will (openly or covertly) start acting like the government and you have basically gained a government, but not the one you wanted.
>>78898483
Chaos, murder, rape, theft?
The ironic thing is when I see large "pro-anarchist" rallies in South America, the majority are women who don't see to realize they'll be raped the first day anarchy is installed.
Anytime I meet someone who say/wears something positive about anarchism I act like I'm going to strong-arm rob them on the spot. I ask them what the fuck are they do? Call the police? I ask them what's stopping me from knocking them out, throwing them in a van, and pimping their ass in some basement somewhere until they die.
PS:
Open borders is one of the most destructive leftist moments ever. It'll end in the result of our agricultural safety, as well as so many other problems we are seeing in the EU
>>78898483
Do you support the initiation of the use of force, against me?
>>78899374
>when I see large "pro-anarchist" rallies in South America, the majority are women
what a surprise, women hold stupid opinions
Anarchy literally cannot exist. What would stop me from murdering you because I want your house? If there's a law saying I can't, then it's not anarchy, there's a system in place
>>78899469
Yes.
>>78898483
>we don't want laws!
>instead for trade, you can't just trade in whatever way you like
>>78899374
>Open borders is one of the most destructive leftist moments ever.
It's funny because they actually think they're being rebellious for supporting open boarders when it's the ultra elites who are fighting for the abolition of countries and boarders.
>>78898483
Because Anarchy is a vacuum in which radical political ideologies can quickly flourish and seize control.
Anarchy in the USA today would mean a fascist dictatorship in about six weeks.
So no, there's nothing wrong with it.
>>78899080
Sorry, how are borders anarchistic?
>>78899679
Because a border is geometric and has nothing to do with the people inside or outside.
Uh oh, i feel an opinion about tariffs and foreign policy coming on.
>>78898483
back to leftypol faggot
It's literal darwinism at the most base form.
There won't be any laws, but there won't be laws protecting the weak from the strong. Tyrone and his gang of niggers will kill the whites while the whites are either forced to start an armed rebellion or both sides just kill each other off.
People tend to create their own groups anyway, so the idea of no government or power structure in place is fucking retarded.
>>78898887
>tfw 1 off from quads
>>78899489
>What would stop me from murdering you because I want your house?
The person you want to kill or the backlash from your murder.
>>78900516
I shoot you in the back of the head, boom done. The backlash from my murder would be people just revenge killing. There's no prison system to actually enforce anything in anarchy, because there is no government, which is why it's fucking stupid
>>78900011
Like that straight line between the US and Canada, right/ Or border guards?
Borders are by and large a construct of governments. A good one, but they require state violence to enforce.
The only real anarchy is individualist anarchy.
It is the recognition of your own freedom, that there is nothing above you.
>>78898483
pc culture at its best
>>78900719
Yeah, you'll just get killed like the piece of shit you are. Isn't it great?
>>78898483
Seriously? It's less realistic than socialism. It's way less realistic than communism. It's basically just a libertarian wet-dream, nothing more.
>>78898483
In a nutshell
>FUCK DA POLICE!
>later on
>HELP ME, POLICE!
>>78898887
anarchists have the absolute freedom to what the fuck ever he wants
if he didnt do those things that means he's constraining himself from freedom.
fuck you
>>78898483
It isn't.
>>78898887
There's only one legal system. He had no other option.
>>78900774
Government is just a technological institution that can be deleted, first mentally then absolutely.
Sure there are cops, military and politicians but they are people first before their professions.
>anarchism without capitalism
How the hell does that work? I don't mean how would it be good or useful I mean how is it even possible on a formal, definitional level?
>>78898887
Hey TJ how's Hardcaseownsyou doing lately?
Unless every person belives in it 100% I feel people would form groups and would just return to feudalism
>>78901476
And there's none in anarchy.
>>78901606
Even though 'anarchism without adjectives ' is the new meme, look up syndicalism for the most formal 'plan'
(Not that I agree with it)
>Means of production ran democratically as co ops
>Labor unions basically run the show
>People live on communes, sort of like the kibbutz
>Law and order is democratic and polycentric
>'Private property' abolished, 'personal possessions' kept
>No rent, interest, wages, profit, royalties, licensing, IP or capital gains
>Resources distributed 'democratically'
Not sure how that would work for obscure demands like medications for rate disaeases. It seems a lot of rationing will be going on. Yes goods are rationed in a market, but it runs more like in auction. When goods or services are rationed by the public- well just watch C Span.
>Most work automated
>>78901696
Anarchy =/anarchism
>>78898483
Because it's a pipe dream, human beings are communal animal and as such naturally form a social hierarchy, the same behaviors can be observed in lower primates and even other non-primate pack animals.
Anarchy can only exist briefly as a transitional state upon the collapse of the previously existing social order after, and in the case of small groups almost immediately, a hierarchy will quickly to establish itself, violently of necessary. Beyond that those even small groups in turn fall into a hierarchical structure based on their size, acess to resources, and influence over other groups.
You would be attempting to fight human nature itself and are thus doomed to fail.
>>78902258
Which is a meme
It's just the hippie commune version of libertarianism, and should be treated as such.
Because it is impossible.
The concept of a state will exist so long as two people are in contact with each other.
Also nearly every invention of civilization is worthless without civilization (i.e., the state).
Roads cannot be maintained, goods cannot be traded, electricity cannot be produced or distributed in any reasonable scale, medicine cannot be synthesized, large scale farming could not occur.
Humans would devolve into beings lower than hunter-gatherers, who formed societies.
>>78902188
What, was the goal to come up with the single least efficient form of life micromanagement imaginable?
>>78898723
there's people being murdered for less every day in statist societies.
well done.
