My fellow ausbros, with the election coming up on Saturday, I seek some guidance on which party or parties are best to vote for in the Senate NSW (house of reps is guaranteed lib for my electrate, so pointless asking).
This is my first federal election (inb4 fuck off newfag) and i dont really know much about any of the parties beyond liberal, labor and greens.
Liberals being good for anti-immigration but shit tier on actually looking after the citizens as they are too busy sucking corperate cock.
Labor being good at looking after the people, not sucking corperate cock but there is a fair chance for immigration shit.
Greens the same but guaranteed shit tier at immigration if they had their way.
Tell me, are there any parties out there that will put citizens before corperations and "refugees"? And i mean parties that are actually good and not just meme tier? All advice and discussion welcome and wanted. Pls no bully. Pls no shitposting
>>78869797
Pls respond ;_;
Same boat OP, first time voting and haven't payed any attention to the election thus far
>>78869797
http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2016/guide/electorates-by-state/
>>78869797
>Liberals being good for anti-immigration
No m8 you have got this wrong. Don't be fooled by their tough on boats policy because they are weak as fuck on planes. Liberals love immigration because it is cheap labour for their corporate masters.
Katter's Australian Party is best party. It is just what you are looking for. One Nation is next best.
I swear to god if any of you vote for shit head Malcom turnbull...
>>78876286
This Don't vote major parties.
>>78876384
Is shit head Turnbull worse than shit tits Shorten though?
aussie politics is terrible and i will have no part in it.
every party is trash.
Vote for trump, I've never heard of any of these shit candidated.
If you're in NSW vote 1 for Liberal Democrats
Lower taxes, guns, telling political correctness to fuck off, more free speech protection, anti-police state, muh weed and other drugs legalised.
I already voted.
1. Liberal Democrats
2. Fishers and shooters
3. Motoring enthusiasts
4. ALA
5. One nation
6. Family first
Does the animal justice party have a chance of getting a senate seat? They have good betting odds ($51)
>>78869797
>Liberals being good for anti-immigration
They're not. No one is. "Being tough on migration policy" actually is just a face for whoever is in government to let more in to the satisfaction of the public. The greens want the detention centres here which saves money.
That's about it. No other microparties are in any position to dictate terms.
>Labor being good at looking after the people
I see no evidence of this post-Rudd.
The thing I recommend to people is join the Greens and be an active participant for the interests of citizens and hide your powerlevel until it comes time to point out what the constituents want regarding refugees.
Because there's one thing the Greens don't have the wherewithal to realise at the moment: Their policies literally disenfranchise them. Migrants don't vote Green. Migrants fucking HATE migrants. They loathe them and are the most threatened by them.
All the Greens needs are more people pointing that out.
>Labor and Green being good at looking after the people
LMFAO senpai
>>78877093
LDP exist interstate as well now.
>>78877093
>guns
>drugs
We are actually trying to build a society here m8, not have a party.
>>78877952
>unironically being a hoplophobe on /pol/
NOT IMMIGRATION.
NO MORE IMMIGRANTS. Vote for whoever isn't going to be bringing them in.
Bringing in shitskins means some white australian women will sex them. That means more shitskins.
This will lead us down to the UK/US road of minorities everywhere fucking up our country.
It needs to remain 90%+ white to survive.
>>78878182
>remain 90%+ white
2 L8 m8
what election
inform the uninforned pls
>>78877093
This
I literally actually signed up to campaign for these sick cunts on election day, cause no other fuckwit in my town knows about them
I generally never vote major parties because fuck 2 party preferred. By the way, nobody vote Sophie Mirabella for indi because she is a whore and should die.
>>78878250
Her child is a demon.
Vote major parties last. Fuck them, fuck Australia's same-same politics, left leaning faggots.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-27/immigration-corruption,-rorting-revealed/7537270
Reminder Libs are just as fucking bad and have been screwing us over on immigrants
Who would you guys vote for in Vic? I'd prefer somebody who is gonna fuck all these Asians and Muslims off but that's probably not gonna happen. On the bright side, spot the Aussie will take a bit longer to play as the years go on
>>78869797
Wait it's this weekend?
If I just write Turmp's name on the ballot can I vote for him?
NXT is doing my head in. I want to vote for them because of Nick's performance in the senate, but it is the wildcard vote, and NXT is pretty wildcard.
>>78877093
liberal democrats also support increased immigration, but I think they are really the best option at this point
>>78877320
pls respond
>>78878459
I hate the cunts who run our country so much.
Just want to scream.
Feel so impotent. What the fuck can we do?
>>78878613
Are you voting for them because of the anti-gay stance?
>>78878568
I have a feeling lib dems wont just open the boarders though.
More immigration for white europeans maybe. Remember lib dems are about telling political correctness to fuck off. If you have money you will be welcome. Given rolling back welfare is a significant policy they wont be opening the flood gates for poor starving refugees who wont contribute to society
>>78869797
I ended up voting Lib
But Rise Up Australia Party may interest you
Family First
Australian Liberty Alliance
Do some reading online, inform yourself.
Consider voting minor parties into the Senate to stop either of the majors being able to "hang parliament" (if opposition holds senate) or railroad legislation (if Lower House and Upper House are both controlled by one party)
Remember that a Green Vote is as good as a Labor vote in either house.
Remember that both the major parties tell lies generally, in that they never deliver everything they promise.
>>78878568
They actually support a system where to actually become a permanent citizen you have to pay the government $50,000
What party is best for funding scientific research and technological advancement?
>>78869797
make sure you vote for the best shitposter
>>78878755
Not vote for them, make the senate even more contentious, push the big two out of the senate completely and make them fucking listen.
You're right to feel impotent if your lower house seat is a safe seat. The senate is where you have to crack heads. Do it.
Also, actually get involved with political parties you hate the least.
>>78878872
Stop sucking scientist cock. Scientists are basically modern day priests to the masses.
>>78878890
All the candidates are Aussies, we are the best shit posters in the world.
>>78878764
no I'm considering putting money on them because they pay $51 for every dollar you put on them. Someone told me its a decent bet, wanted to see if its pie in the sky that they could get a seat in the senate or if its realistic
>>78878780
>I have a feeling lib dems wont just open the boarders though.
No party would. It would be suicidal.
>>78877320
>>78878613
m8 I reckon they have a pretty good chance of winning a Senate seat in Victoria. They have a pretty big presence there.
Yesterday I put a cheeky $15 bet on them at $51.
>>78878872
we are not a big enough economy to really contribute that much to science, leave it to the EU, USA and China
>>78878872
Well to me it sounds like the Liberals are trying to stimulate growth in those sectors through business tax breaks - which of course is anathema to Labor but it is one way to create jobs and Growth...
>>78878986
Greens unironically want to
>>78869797
Greens/labor best for wages policy, so if you want fair wages vote for one of them, greens obviously strongest on environment, labor and Libs about the same on environment, border protection, Libs strongest greens weakest, labor same as Libs but it's a distraction issue, seriously at its max during the Gillard years maybe ten thousand came by boat, a piddling number. It's an issue all sides have politicised over blowing the actual impact to the country. Compared to Europe we barely have a refugee problem but it polarises people and draws votes
>>78876286
>>78876500
fuggen oath
>>78878961
It's really unrealistic.
1: There's a pretty big viral campaign against them amongst those you would usually expect to vote for them
2: Micro parties are fucked this election.
>>78878936
Good advice
>>78878989
Yeah even if I were to lose $15-20 it doesn't matter. Why are the odds for them so high?
just vote motoring you nigger
>>78879076
They want to increase the refugee intake a bit and have the detention centres here.
That's fairly different, and it won't happen until our budget is truly fucked by the Big Two.
>>78879065
While id like to tell both major parties to fuck off at the present moment we only have 2 options.
Id preference liberal over labor for government because labor are doing their best to appeal to regressive leftist socialists and are in bed with the greens. Labor are a meme at this point and get by purely on the outdated idea that they are "for the workers".
Liberals to form government but senate full of minor parties will be preferable.
Unfortunately means that in 2019 labor will probably win a majority in both houses but im hoping that doesnt happen.
>>78869797
shooters, fishers and farmers
lib democrats
KAP
>>78877093
ALA are zionists
i'll probably vote for them but they will be way down on the list...
>>78878824
>Selling our birthright to chinks, muds and other mystery meat scum
>>78879196
>Why are the odds for them so high?
I don't know. They will probably come down now if more people are betting on them.
One Nation or Family First.
I wonder if it would be better to let PM Turnbull lose office. The Liberal Party needs to be chastised for stabbing Abbott and the conservatives in the party in the back. To me, Turnbull is a David Cameron tier cuck who will sell out the LP's conservative principles and make it indistinguishable from the professional politicians in the ALP. What we really need to be worried about is Bill Shorten's next-in-line, Tanya Plibersek, who is ideologically much closer to a shitlib like Canada's Justin Trudeau.
>>78879434
>implying this is worse than our current system
>>78879580
>implying we have to have one or the other
>>78879247
You can't vote for a party that's emblem is fucking pattern bald Jim from Jim's Mowing.
here is a good question, what party will be best to steer australia to help the UK in their hour of need?
>>78879136
Shitposting detected.
The greens have no green policies.
Labour are pro union, basically a pyramid scheme of communism where the higher you are the more you get paid. Opposite of a meritocracy.
Libs in lower.
Free weed in upper.
>>78879365
Effectively what I went with.
I'm working class but not a full on lefty. Sick of being told a Union orientated party (albeit well disguised) that they represent me. Some of the shit Penny Wong comes up with lately has disgusted me. I literally would rather put Greens first over Labor nowadays (but that won't happen till they broaden their meme content a bit)
So I postal voted Lib for fear of Lab basically. Plus there were a couple things they said at start of year that sounded good...
>>78879676
I reckon his logo is a stroke of genius.
Most of the parties fucked up theirs. Xenophon hit a home run though.
>>78879865
The ALA one looks pretty boss
>>78879955
Is it a star of David?
>>78879726
Probably one that focuses on international trade I guess and has a monarchist streak
fill in the blanks....
That's right, Rise Up Australia Party
I still support based Abbott, so my voting is based on how they conducted themselves during the leadership spill.
Below the line:
1. Jim Molan (Liberal)
2. Kirralie Smith (Australian Liberty Alliance)
3. John Williams (National)
4. Concetta Fierravanti-Wells (Liberal)
5. Brian Tucker (Rise Up Australia)
6. Maree Nichols (Rise Up Australia)
7. Phil Jobe (Family First)
8. Sally Vincent (Family First)
9. Simon McCaffrey (Family First)
10. Nella Hall (Christian Democrats)
11. Peter Rahme (Christian Democrats)
12. Deborah Lions (Christian Democrats)
The reason I have included Senator Fierravanti-Wells is because I don’t see any evidence that her blabbing to Nikki Savva was anything other than the result of the natural female urge to gossip.
Further, her statements appeasing Islam have to be seen in the light of her position as a Assistant Minister for Multicultural Affairs, where she is bound by the party position and must maintain a diplomatic posture.
Fierravanti-Wells has been very strong on the marriage issue, and will be a useful presence if Turnbull tries something shifty on the plebiscite.
With regard to Fiona Nash’s exclusion, during the Howard Government she joined forces with Labor and Democrats Senators to viciously attack the then Health Minister Tony Abbott for his pro-life views on abortion. They didn’t want to allow him to have the appropriate ministerial control over RU486 and introduced legislation to strip him of powers and hand them to pro-abortion bureaucrats.
With regard to Angry Anderson’s exclusion, he is on record supporting homosexual so-called “marriage”. Those non-leftists who support that cause reveal a profound ignorance of the leftist agenda, of which it is a core component. The ALA give a conscience vote on social issues, so the views of the individual candidates are important.
So long as you preference a Pro-gun part first and Lab/Lib/Greens last, then it's fine.
>>78879999
Sick Numbers
Nah it looks like a firework sort of. Red white n blue. can't show you cause (shit)posting with phone
yes hello i am aus
Convince me to abandon my 15 year commitment to mickey mouse and donald duck. I'm slightly rusted on, but becoming disillusioned through lack of success/candidates never do speeches or campaign properly.
>>78879726
Every single fucking party. We need them, they need us. They are the reason we were working so hard on a EU Free trade agreement.
Hilarious little aside: Greens will be especially thirsty for a strong trade tie with UK when they realise it will help support Corbyn. They've always been anti-globalist.
>>78879955
>>78879999
>>78880836
>>78880836
Kek
>House of Reps
Right wing meme parties
Independents
Left wing meme parties*
Major parties (in your order of preference)*
Batshit crazy left wing meme parties
>Senate
Right wing meme parties
Single issue meme parties you like
1 (one) major party you dislike the least
*swap the order of these two if you feel so inclined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W95RHO6_Gw4
>>78879865
>I reckon his logo is a stroke of genius.
You indicate for ten seconds to get in the left lane to turn left. You start to pull into the lane. The cunt in the left land a car length behind you speeds up nearly side swiping you and screams "LEARN THE RULES" The face making that noise is that face. Always that fucking face.
No way is anything with a face like that ever being in parliament ever again.
>>78881552
That is an Aussie face m8. Fair dinkum. True Blue. Fling some kangaroo poo.
>>78869797
pauline hanson's one nation
seriously the most based /pol/ party there is dude
>>78878568
LDP support immigration for rich cunts, not for povo 3rd world shitskins.
>>78881691
If I was gonna vote for a red-headed clown it would be Ronald McDonald m8o
>>78881701
>3rd world shitskins
Those would be the rich cunts. Didn't you notice?
it does my fuckin head in that there is so many minor parties with basically the same (or just about) views on everything
one nation
katter's aussie party
rise up australia
aus liberty alliance
why dont they just form a coalition and actually get a real chance at getting a lot of seats? fuck me dead cunts
>>78881701
>not for povo 3rd world shitskins
Yeah m8 rich third world shitskins grown fat on corruption and daddy's drug money.
>>78869797
I voted Family First and One Nation not sure if I made a mistake voting for Family First though it was my first time voting as well.
>>78881925
you're a cockhead mate if you ever badmouth pauline againt i will fuck you till your guts fall out.
>>78882124
family first are pretty autism but at least they are conservative
>>78882032
Because they are fucking stupid and hate each other.
>>78882032
m8 they will merge in the future I think. It didn't used to matter because the old preference system actually advantaged them when there were lots of parties with similar views.
This DD election will be the last one with this many parties I think. It will just be suicide in the future.
>>78882193
literally give me one good reason why someone who browses pol SHOULDNT vote for one nation you dickhead
>>78881949
If they are rich, they won't be coming here to leech off of our welfare system.
>>78882211
pauline and katter dont hate each other. dont know about the rest.
Vote for whoever is going to drive out all the shitskins.
When i come there i expect to see only aryans.
>>78882145
Listen you cock head, why don't you go pack another cone and leave political discussion to people who arent fucked in the head?
Pauline is a stuck up red headed cunt and you are throwing your voice e away if you think this bitch is ever gonna have any real power again.
>>78882313
I'm not saying don't vote for one nation. I'm saying don't vote for a cunt like Pauline.
>>78881925
>>78882436
FUCK OFF YOU PIECE OF SHIT CUNT.
>>78882434
Fuck off we're full
There were way too many australian flags in this thread, so I just stopped in to say hi, and that I hope that your day is going good okay I am leaving now god bles ty
>>78882544
You triggered cunt? Go back to your little hug box there faggotkin
>>78882665
It's an aussie thread mate, this is important talk so we don't end up with an aussie version of your cuck pm
>>78882599
"no"
Visa is cleared and have a job offer
see you soon lad
>>78869797
support Auxit
>>78882665
can you tell us the most qualified part time drama teacher to run our country into the ground mate?
>>78882669
YOU ABSOLUTE SHITCUNT
PM ME YOUR ADDRESS BY CHRIST CUNT I WILL SORT YOU OUT
>>78882911
>PM
It's fun reading these threads in Steve Irwin accent
>>78882436
>>78882514
do you have anything to back up your claims?
>>78882902
Jerry, from down the way. Not a drama teacher, but I hear he ran a fairly busy maccas m8.
>>78869797
>Sex Party
>No policy on orgies
>Still worth a look
>>78882911
Why are you playing up the "aussie" thing in your posts? You come off like somebody trying to sound Australian but you've never met one.
>>78883030
History books m8o
>>78877723
>>78883177
admit it cunt you reckon the greens arent as bad as pol makes out
>>78883177
I enjoy roleplaying as an authentic Aussie online m8.
I am sorry if my performance is not convincing to you. I am only an amateur.
>>78878182
Of our parties up for election, who is swinging the farthest right?
>>78882911
>>78883177
Crikey! This Bogan is No Galah! Ackmed from Rural Australia, we must change tactics. In the name of Holden Utes (peace be upon him).
>>78883589
Strewth m8.
>>78883411
Go chop a mix and settle down deadshit
>Shorten
>Manlet
Do the math
>>78883411
fair shake of the sauce bottle aye cunty ;)
>>78879741
Dont knock the unions, i make 105k working construction because of their dank thuggery
>>78877723
>Join the greens
Melborne detecded, kill yourself shitstain
>>78884022
It's only a rort if you're not on the take too I guess. What have I been missing out on all these years?...
>foster's
nice b8 m8
>>78884022
pretty sure trade wages are so high because of controlled immigration and the huge emphasis on young people to get an office job or go to uni
>>78884291
Are you saying the Unions can't take credit for this?
Racist! Corporate Drone! Homophobe! Medicare Rapist!
*burns Aussie flag in Melbourne*
Taught you a lesson
>not voting greens
>>78878556
Protectionist, what's not to like? Also, the status quo is garbage, why not shake it up a bit?
Even if they don't get elected you can put them 1 and then another party as 2. If the NXT gets enough votes he gets elected. If not, your vote goes to your 2nd preference to see if they have enough votes to get elected.
>>78878781
I hope you at least voted Lib after your favoured meme parties so that the Liberals can see which policies their voters vote for.
>>78884733
I live in a Labor Marginal mate, it's swinging a little to Liberal, i really wanted to add to that as best as I could.
In the Senate I went all my memes RUAP, Territory1, etc and then Labor after 3 memes.
In my view, that was me doing my best with what I was offered. My seat will fall to Labor I think. All my prefs in the low house were memes before labor
>>78881298
Good plan mate. I've been voting like this since the 07 election.
>>78869797
2 posts by this ID
>>78884547
is there actually a legitimate argument for voting greens?
even full leftists seem to only be able to use the 'hey they aren't that bad' or 'don't you care about the environment' lines which are fucking retarded reason to vote communists in
>>78885394
cos Big Dick is Love
Big Dick is Life
>>78885394
their environmental policies i guess but even then they are huge hypocrites by being against nuclear
all their policies are literally MUH FEELS
>>78876588
No, ignore that fag.
