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PP WINS

WHAT NOW?
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first for this is the end let's just shitpost
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Now we wait for a coalition or more anarchy
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>>78849595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4
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>>78849595
Can you explain what is going on with private police forces? I heard it's possible now to get a security service to >enforce laws< and arrest people.
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>>78849676
Based Rajoy, the true saviour of Spain in this day and age.
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what is PP
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>>78850022
That's a whole 'nother deal. I don't think it's really known what's going on with that shit. Basically, what you should know for sure is that the police forces will do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the party in power tells them to, even if that includes breaking the law or ignoring citizens' rights.
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>>78850260
Cuckservatives, really.

But at least their economic policies are "good" and they talked against the Syrian refugees quota.
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Fuck this, we are fucked, now elections again,
We will never get rid of thieves.
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>>78849438
American here, I didn't even know Spain had elections, I thought they were ruled by unelected officials in Brussels.
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There is no fixing this broken, rotten turd of a country.

There's just no fixing it. We're too stupid.
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Rojos, volveros a Massachusetts!
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>>78850188
>rooting for a genuinely retarded candidate
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>>78849438
haha PEEPEE LOLOLOLOLOLOLO LIKE WEINER HEHGEHEHE PEEEPEEEE PEEENIS
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>>78850188
>rajoy
>based
More like (((rajoy)))
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>>78850505
That's Italy.

Despite all the shit we get, Spain is the only "PIGS" country that has not been economically rescued and is not ruled by an EU technocrat.

The Spanish economy is growing and the unemployement is getting lower, two years ago the unemployement was 8 points higher, we have a slow but steady overcome of this shitty situation but the communist victory could have ruined all. Still, it's not time to celebrate, and it's kinda possible that the left and regional independentists make some kind of coalition that fucks everything up. We will see in the next days.
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>>78851202
PP is pronounced like Pepe in Spanish.
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>>78849438
Party hard
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>>78851590
Cringe hard*
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>>78850392
>>78850579
Genocide when?
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>>78850188
>Based
>Rajoy
>Savior
I'd vote for Soros at this point. If we're going to choose whether they cut us our head or our dick and then they keep going I'd choose to make it quick.
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So is that good or bad?

Help a monkey out here Spainbros
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>Voting times during siesta times

Maybe give us more of your land and into an colony buddy?
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>>78852053
New elections
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>>78852053
Literally the lesser evil, but there's still a chance we'll have to vote AGAIN

BUT, the commies got BTFO so it's like another batch of brexit reactions but in spanish
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LEFTIES ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>78852206
>>78852326
I'm confused, why would you have new elections
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>>78849438
>PP wins
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>>78852420
Blue = PP (center right)
Purple = Unidos Podemos (non-nationalist leftist)
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ESTADOS UNIDOS DE MEXICO
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>>78852610
There was a thread earlier saying podemos was on track to win. What happened?
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>>78852737
Reality happened, surveys were hinting at a huge advantage for the commies

Turns out surveys are bullshit
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>>78852053
Nah. PP are thieves and proud yelling "muh commies" to scare people off. They're also responsible, along with PSOE, of our loss of sovereignty. Spain now depends on EU.
People bite the bait because Podemos is lead by a literal commie and C's has proven that they're not /pol/: the party but literally the merchants in disguise.
And don't even get me started with PSOE.

IMO the lesser evil here was a moderate victory of Podemos because it would force the two main parties to do their homework all while not letting Podemos do any of the radical shit they planned. Even if they did try to do some radical shit the next four years they would be BTFO and new alt parties would rise, hopefully a proper right.

But we're too coward to even think about this and we cheer at our own demise.
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>>78853041
PEEPEEEEEEEEEE
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>>78852737
Polls were too optimistic or simply fake. Polls gave Unidos Podemos more votes than PSOE.

PP have capitalised the fear of the leftist very well.
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>>78853207
The commie media were all stroking their dicks ate the possibility of podemos gaining more traction, that's all.

They're still a big threat for PP though, another round of negotiations will ensue.
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>>78852420

>Catalonia and Basque Country voting for the same party

I take it that this is the cuck party.
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>>78850380

>their economic policies are "good"

Sure they are, Aznar did a great job turning our economy into beach and bricks. Not like it exploded 10 years later or anything.
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>>78853191
Necesitamos un partido decente que destrone al PePe. Esto de la magia memética se nos ha ido de las manos.
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>>78853041
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>78853591
Woops. translation. We need a strong, decent party to dethrone PP (read PEPE)
Meme magic shouldn't be wasted with those cunts.
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>>78853590
That was Felipe Gonzalez with his industrial restructuration.

Love how PSOEfags and leftists in general have such a short memory.
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>>78853591
El adelanto por la derecha es imposible por culpa de la propia incompetencia de las falanges
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>>78853539
Literal communists, yes.

There is a small chance that every single party except PP and Cs make a huge coalition of half+1 seats and have a 6 month long rule until they jump on each other because someone used a wrong pronoun or some shit like that.

If not, it's going to be 3 months of "MUH VOTES" from everyone blocking each other until there is a new election again
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>>78853813
Pues ahí está el riesgo. Se adelanta por la izquierda. No sería la primera vez que se hace.
Mientras no acabemos a tortazos o en guerra...
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>>78854096
>Mientras no acabemos a tortazos o en guerra...
A los pudremitas y al PP le encanta el juego del guerracivilismo

Pero como son tan inutiles se les acabara yendo de las manos, aun asi soy optimista y creo que esto de Podemos/C's ha abierto una veda interesante para que aparezcan nuevos partidos.

Y por mucho que si españistán y cosas así al final acabará surgiendo una opción conservadora y euroescéptica aquí.
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So tell me fellas is this good or bad news? The conservatives in the uk are shit
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>>78854456
Here too. But we were facing literal commies here
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>>78849438
It's shit, but podemos would have been a fucking catastrophe
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She didn't deserve it :(
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>>78854456
They're bad news, but could be worse. They will gradually be worse news and things are not going to get better. People are happy because commies didn't win, but they forget who they're voting for.
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>>78852420
fucking catacucks man
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WHY DIDN'T YOU VOTE FOR ME?
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So, what will happen? 3rd elections or PPSOE?

I vote for the first and then for the second
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>>78853041
>the lesser evil
>any kind of Podemos victory

Are you on drugs?
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>>78852177
Actually can you just annex us? I want to be a UK citizen.
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New elections is good right? Probably better than having cucks or cucks in power. At least you can cause more confusion and dissent. Just a bit disappointed that Vox flopped so much. I liked that meme party.
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>>78854775
>>78854632
Do you not have any decent ukip tier parties? You don't have a spanish nige?
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>>78854656
Eva is for sex
Ines is for love
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>tfw firebombing of spain in your lifetime
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>>78855660
this
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>>78855285
3rd elections unless PSOE accepts to commit political suicide.
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>>78855879
is she african? she looks very brown
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>>78855879
se la arrimaba por todos los agujeros.
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>>78855963
Don't you get bored?
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>>78855963
>>78855827
un CHIno salame ASJKASJK
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>>78855449
Sadly no, there are some nutheads neo-nazi tier parties like Vox, Democracia Nacional or España 2000. But they are the laughing stock and nobody takes them serious, and some literally who parties with 0,005% of votes like the Libertarian party.
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>>78855324
It's all about breaking the conditioning. They wouldn't be able to do big changes.
>>78855449
Not a single great speaker, not a single man who dares to point their fingers at the right persons. It won't happen unless something big happens internationally. If Brits stay strong perhaps.
>>78855827
I always thought your flag was like a sunless version of Philippines for dyslexics. Then I visited your country and discovered that it's actually an accurate description.
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>>78855963
Still butthurt about the Battle of White Mountain, I see
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>>78854096
>Se adelanta por la izquierda
Esto podria funcionar, el español medio es de izquierdas pero consevador, crear una especie de Podemos sin progresismo.
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post your face when
>surveys and survey experts
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>>78856127
>>78856135
Wow you guys need to sort it out and uncuck yourselves m8s
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>>78855425
We are going to smash Belgium no government record.

>>78855449
Closest thing we have and it's a literal memeparty>>78855045
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CAN SOMEONE PLS INVADE US ALREADY?
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>>78856135
>They wouldn't be able to do big changes.

But the psychological effect of a Podemos victory would be enough to get them elected the next time with full force.
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>>78849438
>All regions have voted PP except Catalonia and Euskadi

I hate the fact that we have voted for these sjw faggots, but at least there will be more people willing to accept the independence :^). However, this suggests that we would become cucked states like sweden or germany.

Conservative nationalists are fucked. Better move to Andorra.
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>>78856322
Surveys should be fucking ban.Thye are manipulated to alter the democratic process.Is so obvious that is not even funny
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Pls explain why the exit polls were so inaccurate
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omg what I hate Spain now
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>>78856602
Media shilling for Podemos.
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Well At least there are no SJW in charge of the country.
But we still the eternal slaves of the EU bankers.

Fucked either way.
My only hope is no big number of rapefugees gets in to the country
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>>78856602
A)People lied
B) Poll makers did a terrible job
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>>78856602
an ancient tradition known as pucherazo
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>>78856466
>get them elected the next time with full force.
If they did they would try to get a referendum for Catalonia. That means the rest of Spain would tell them to fuck off and they would hit the ground hard.

Any retard without a decent program can use this against them and get them BTFO.
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>>78856757
ayyyyyy
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>>78856127
P-lib voter here, I accept my party is a joke, but I think we have to vote for the party we believe in, not "practical voting" like everyone says here
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what does this mean for the EU
help crashing it or not really?
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>>78856696
PP are willing to let them in, they just don't want to come to this fucking shitty hellhole.
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>>78856322
They should fire them, they are awful at their job

>Brexit polls
>Elections polls

Useless bunch of maggots, they are only good for manipulating people.

>>78856864
This. Useful vote is why we are left with PP
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>>78856884
neither of the 4 big parties are against the EU
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>>78856479
>However, this suggests that we would become cucked states like sweden or germany.

The only reason we are not cucked like them is the fact we don't have enough money for free housing and gibsmedats so immigrants dont even care to stay here and use us as a checkpoint in their route to North Europe.
Our youth and young adults are turbo commies even more hardcore than the germans.
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>>78857031
Podemos is against EU policies tho
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I'M LAUGHING SO HARD

I want a pic of Errejon with Fraiser's hair NOW
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>>78849438
in a scale of 1-10 how butthurt is Catalunya?
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>>78856986
>Useful vote is why we are left with PP

I think it's more of a "fuck you for spending half a year without doing anything, at least the PP was trying to get people to talk to them all that time while you asshats insulted each other" punishing vote
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>>78857511
Better yet, the whole cast
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Why is Cataluña such a lefties place?
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>>78857642
The catalonian branch of the communist party celebrated they've got the most votes there (they promised a referendum)
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>>78850505
>>78851482
But that's only because our gov does everything Brussels tells them.
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>>78857780
Because Podemos promised them independence.
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>>78857490
But not against EU itself, which is stupid because even with absolute majority they wouldn't change shit, with the other 26 countries flipping them off
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anyone knows VOX results?
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>>78855285
I want to stick my penis in his boipucci desu
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>>78855963

If only all africans looked like her.
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>>78857950
0
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>>78857838
what are the chances of a referendum happening now?
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>>78857650
I WANT ONE WITH THE PISTOL READY TO COMMIT SUICIDE

I want to butthurt even more some people in my Facebook.
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>>78857780
Muh franco butthurt, same as Basques
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>>78857950
>Vox
>not a meme
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>>78857950
sth more than 44.000 votes

20-D: 58.000 votes
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>>78858119
0
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>>78858119
from zero to zero, we should just bring the tanks there now and liberate the Spanish who are opressed there
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>>78852420

holy shit you guys need to take american lessons on branding. Your party emblems are absolute shit
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>>78858295
Which is also zero
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>>78858150
>He actually posted this in Facebook

The absolute madman!

Post pics with reactions pls.
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>>78857950
VOX: 46.714/0,20% , less than last time
http://resultados2016.infoelecciones.es/ini99v.htm
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>>78858119
After these results, none.
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Why do spaintards keep voting for commies? Do they not know what happened to Venezuela? You do realize if the EU collapses with the euro currency no one will want yours on the global market as your economy is in the shitters at the moment?
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>>78849438

I know nothing about these parties.

Someone give me an explanation that a moron could understand. Something like:

>Basically, the Spanish UKIP just won the most seats.

....or some shit.
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>>78853775
Now now, no need to fight kids. Both Felipe and Josemari did their part in turning this country into a shitter.

If you're going to start fighting over who fucked you over the worst, you're missing the point entirely.
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>>78858540
0 seats fro VOX and Falange.
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>>78852420
>>78858337
>they actually changed the O un UNIDOS for a heart to avoid offending women and otherkin
noice, hadn't noticed that
I am sure it was Garzon's idea
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>>78858540
Center-right won, but they suck EU cock.

Still, it's better than nothing.
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>>78857780
But they've been ruled by the right for over 30 years?
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>>78858776

Could be worse. Hang in there, you Spaniards still have some life left in you.
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>>78858687
>Podemos I+D+i
>Podemos homeopathy
>Podemos Death Star

Shit, how many of these things are on twitter and facebook and which of them are official Podemos-related users/groups??
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>>78853775
Also please note that most of what goes on in this country is not the decision of our politicians, but of our European overlords.

Felipe's restructuring (not "restructuration") was a requisite for getting into the EU (in part so that Germany could get a piece of our industry, which is now staffed by our cheap labor over there).

Same with the recent change of the Constitution that facilitated debt enslavement (the more advertised change that took place at the same time was the one that allowed Letizia being queen some day, but that was just a distraction). Both PP and PSOE "agreed" on that change.

So stop being so blind. Don't forget who the real ((enemy)) is.
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>>78858295
>>78858484
nice
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>>78858981
The hell if I know, can we just burn them all and decide it later?
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>>78858540
Polls gave communists the second place in the election, with a very real possibility of reaching the government with the support of other leftist forces.

In the end, they got the third place and the conservative party won the election
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>>78858905
Don't worry, I'm hangin'.

I'm a computer engineer, so if it ever gets too bad I'll join based UK and contribute to their economy instead. I doubt they'd refuse someone who can actually give them something in return besides being a fucking parasite.

Reminder that only parasites fear tight borders.
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>>78859110
Fair enough, I remember arguing against some of the last group about how there where toys of MaRey Sue and how a real fan of Star Wars would know how to write Jedi (not Jedai).It wasn't like entering a hornet nest.
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Friendly reminder: these people get BFTO today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib5ZtnQpw7s
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>>78850505
>unelected.
Who do you think you're talking about? We're not some godforsaken banana republic.

We elect them every four years.
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>>78859465
>godforsaken banana republic
>Italy
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Culparos a vosotros por los siguientes años de mierda, yo voté por PACMA
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>>78856884
All parties are good goys. We are literally irrelevant to international politics.

Domestic politics mainly consists of arguing over moot points. Spain never changes.
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>>78857490
Podemos is only against the EU because even the EUSSR is not enough of a regulation producing bureaucracy for their tastes.
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>>78859737
>votó a los veganos SJWs
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la están liando en la calle Genova los mugrientos?
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>>78859737
Y yo fui a los toros ayer, la plaza llena.
Te jodes.
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>>78849438
Is there a tl;dr for the uninitiated?
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>>78858150
>has a jewbook account
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>>78854656
>Mierda Unidad
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>>78859900
Lo han intentado, les han callado al grito de "Sí se puede!" Épico
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>>78859737
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>>78859917
Por suerte esa mierda no la tenemos en Catalunya, últimamente España me está obligando a hacerme independentista.
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>>78860069
>Catalunya
>While speaking Spanish
Fucking kill yourself

t. catalan
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>>78859737
Te divertiste tirando tu voto a la basura?
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>>78860069
No entiendo a los antitaurinos. La tauromaquia ya se muere ella sola sin ayuda de nadie.
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>>78860069
Si escribes en castellano, CataluÑa se escribe con Ñ, como EspaÑa
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>>78849438
I'm literally leaving yo Canada in a couple of years, been saving some money already and now I'm going dead seious on this. Can't stand the idiotic sheeps anymore.
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>>78860069
Es lo que más gracia me hace. No los tenéis no porqué les parezca un show poco ético (yo también los quitaría pero me parecería un poco mejor si el torero se mete en el ruedo con todas las consecuencias), si no por cumplir con la agenda independentista
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>>78859935
see >>78859247
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>>78860340
>Can't stand the idiotic sheeps
>Leaving to leafland
Are you braindead by any chance? Do you even know which country birthed the proto-SJW commie feminist cucks?
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>>78859935
Scenario A: No agreement, no government, vote again.
Scenario B: Left-wing agreement, mixed parliament (which I think is a good thing considering).

In practical terms, very much like always. Sucking Merkel's dick.
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>>78851482
Really? Why don't you mention inequality and tax evasion from the upper classes? Inequality not as in muh gibs but as in wageslaves being unable to survive on what they make due to the merchants being moneygrubbing scum. We're going down? Then why do we have thousands of new millionaires? Because yes we did our homework but the weight was put on the working class, who are redpilled enough not to vote for the SJW but not smart enough to try to change things.

What about our industry? PSOE started a trend of transforming our country into Europe's bar, and PP continued it. Our competitivity remains thanks to our hard work. This is exactly why our empire fell. Underpaid, overworked lower classes and a titanic mismanagement thinking it would last forever followed by one fuckup after another.

Those who allow their fellow citizens to starve and die while talking about "homeland" are traitors and they would call Hitler himself a filthy commie to distract the good goyim.
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See ya guys this christmas
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>>78860853
This
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>>78860562
You're unironically braindead, period. Haven't seen such a straight up retarded reply in a long while, congrats.
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>>78856322
>>78856986
That's not fair. They only interpreted what polls where saying. Noone can literally see the future.

What you should ask yourself is: what happened in between those polls and the voting?
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>>78857950
>VOX results
I'll tell you. just remove the 'v' and the 'x'
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>>78860833
Very well said. I admire you.
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Why Spain doesnt have any Right Wing Populist party?
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>>78861857
Because the right wing is the devil since we got out of the dictatorship in 1978 according to everyone in Spain
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>>78861857
Because 'right-wing' here is equated with fascism
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>>78862074
But Franco was good for the Economy of Spain.

He protected them from a Nazi invasion and from a Communist take over.

While he wasnt perfect it was much better than some Bolshevik Jew running the place if you ask me.
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Repeating digits for Guerra Civil 3.0
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>>78859430
jesus feels good
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>>78862356
> Nazi invasion
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>>78860833
Don't forget how they are no longer "working class" and are now "middle class".
Also we have lost people affiliated to social security and we have less people in the work census.

>>78861494
It's clear they shaft the opinion from people outside urban areas.
It doesn't exist a perfect poll, but at least your margin of error should be close to reality at least. We can't have a variable of 20 representatives, because that's the same of not doing a poll.

>>78862356
>Nazi invasion
what

>>78862372
Franco would be so disappointed on Fraga if he saw this
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>>78852177
I would let you colonize my country when you are done with the BREXIT process, seriously, it would be better than be a EU colony or Venezuela protectorate.
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>>78862589
> We can't have a variable of 20 representatives, because that's the same of not doing a poll

So what, maybe people lie to polls, maybe Brexit had a huge impact in the voting. Who knows.
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>>78862131
>>78862074
>>78849438
>>78861857

Cucked country, Fascism isnt responsible for 100+ million dead.
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>>78861857
C's
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>>78860833
>MUH INEQUALITY
>MUH RICH CLASSES
>MUH BANKERS
>MUH CORPORATIONS
>MUH EVIL CAPITALISM

Not an argument, sorry.

When you actually learn something about economy instead of political memes and catchphrases we can talk.
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>>78852981
>Turns out surveys are bullshit

Really?
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>>78862372
feels bad man...
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>>78862690
Ok, you got me, but not even external polls (like those memepolls from Andorra) on the last day predicted this.
>People lie
Yes, something is wrong with us as a society when we need to lie in an anonimous poll

Either way I think they are just mean to manipulate the vote and be wank material for the parties benefited by it.
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>>78849438
PRAISE FRANCO!
¡SANTIAGO Y CIERRA, ESPAÑA!
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Who did you vote for, hermanos?
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>>78862942
What is there to understand? Monopoly and Jews jewing Jews like a goddamn matryoshka. EU accepting our little cronie game because we comply with what they say and slowly become more dependent on their exports. We're part of an economic mafia. A big scam. Ask Italy or Portugal. They went through the same process only Italy is in a better position than us.

Do you think it's a commie meme? UKIP said it, Donald Trump says it and even our small conservative parties said it. What can you tell me about economics that politics and history won't teach me, genius?
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>>78863423
> not even external polls
Only CIS polls are worth it, the rest are memes.
> something is wrong with us as a society when we need to lie
Something is wrong is the most corrupt party is the winner. Also, take into account undecideds.

https://twitter.com/kanciller/status/747199657915355136

Everyone is surprised, the excuse of the poll manipulation is just childish.
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>>78863722
Mariano Naniano
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>>78863925
>Something is wrong is the most corrupt party is the winner
Better bring the communism to Spain, that sure will fix it.
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>>78862910
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Seriously when will Spain get a properly nationalistic party?

Can't falange have a re organization and a change of name?

Is UPyD good?

Is C's just a bunch of centrists faggots?
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>>78864131
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>>78864103
> Better bring the communism to Spain, that sure will fix it.
> "communism"

We now for sure who is corrupt here. But you prefer a dick in your ass before a "possible" black dick in your mouth.
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>>78864175
The hell if I know, it can't happen soon enough.

I doubt so, too related to fascism (which is good).

No, center-left party that dissapeared out of inactivity.

Yes.

>>78864319
lots of corrupts here, I guess
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>>78864200
You know it's true. I also wished there was a true alternative, but C's is a meme.

If you don't believe me it's OK. Just wait long enough and you will see their jewish ways.
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>>78858337
You are right.
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>>78864645
>voting for PODEMOS
Catalonia could as well commit mass suicide and nothing of value would be lost
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>>78863925
Not manipulation of the poll per se, but manipulation of the vote with the poll be it intentional or not
He says something close to what I said and it is that they are doing something wrong when they result looks nothing like the poll (except PSOE's result and minor parties)

>>78864103
Boy, you have C's despite this>>78864131; I'd vote from a right wing party, but I can't do it with PP and its corruption.
If I were a leftist I would probably do the same with PSOE and Podemos, despite gommunism.

>>78864175
>Seriously when will Spain get a properly nationalistic party?
Never, PP covers that space
>Can't falange have a re organization and a change of name?
Absolute haram
>Is UPyD good?
Literally C's
>Is C's just a bunch of centrists faggots?
Refer to >>78864131
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>>78864653
At least he put way more red lines to Podemos than Pedro the cuck Sanchez. And with less than half his representation.
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>>78852499
Because conggresman and congresswoman have to aprove anual budget for spain. If they can't get along together there would be new elections. Plus they have to decide who is going to be president.
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>>78860007
I'm glad someone else saw this
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>>78864825
Spain is lost, coalition will never happen, Rajoy will become the eternal president.
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>>78864858
C's is a party boosted just to counter Podemos and hold center vote who could swing between PSOE and C's.
Had they done that, they would have lost, voters, credibility and financiation
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>>78853041
choke on your tonge and die
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>>78864175
>Can't falange have a re organization and a change of name?
Falange should be like Podemos. Not even kidding.

If they speak about "kicking people out" normies will get butthurt. If they speak about Europe betraying them for the markets and "muh evil globalism provoking wars and dragging us to the consequences of their actions" then people will think "maybe it isn't that bad to think about the Spanish sticking together to help each other."

It's is of utmost importance that they distance themselves from PP and Franquism, but at the same time make sure their ideas will be heard and welcome if they benefit Spain.

Finally, things like abortion, gay marriage, religion and even immigration should remain untouched. It should be a purely economic movement based on brotherhood and altruism promising to change nothing but that. The all the other aspects will set itself after they win the first elections.

Even then I'd recommend giving and taking.
Gay marriage? yes. Church involved? No unless the Church decides so. Abortion? Yes. Free and with gibs? No unless it's an exceptional case. This could work.
>>78865373
You'll be glad to hear I don't have much longer. Keep what you vote and remember the consequences of your own actions are yours alone.
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>>78864858
see
>>78865312

I'm going to bed. I have work to do tomorrow. I'm not a neet or a college students like you lot.
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>>78865606
>You'll be glad to hear I don't have much longer.
If that means you're actually dying or something, I must say that I sincerely hope you do so before next elections.

Oh, and yes, I know what I voted, I voted no to literal marxism.
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>>78865606
As someone who voted Podemos the first time, I would totally vote that version of the Falange.

Those are the only reasons I considered Podemos in the first place. I have no party to turn to.
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>>78864809
Catalonia is a meme region, what do you expect?
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>>78864809
Votan a podemos por que es el partido que les abre la puerta a la independencia
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>>78865105
I think just won the lesser evil.
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>>78865906
Whatever you vote I hope you live to see this country become great again. See this
>>78865922
People are willing to embrace nationalism, but the nationalism you offer is simply the same old group of people playing crony capitalism and pretending they care about Spain, the Spanish or the Spanish culture. Last present I can give you is my vote. Use it.
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>>78856709
I lied when they asked me, kek
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>>78866226
¿Pero por que no pueden parar con el meme de la independencia?
¿Que no les ha quedado claro que es incostitucional?
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>>78855879
Spaniards really do have the best women
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>>78866756
They do :^)
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>>78866226
>dar la independencia a la región que te aporta 3/4 de tus votos
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>>78866358
Podemos is contrary to nationalism.
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>>78866959
>se une con izquierda unida para superar a el psoe
>pierde un millon y medio de votos
>gana la deuda de once millones de euros de izquierda unida a los bancos

como esperaria de pablo, el estratega de juego de tronos
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>>78866358
You are not going to convince me or most Spaniards here for that matter that voting for Podemos is good in any way. Calling them communists is actually too kind, Podemos is the literal embodiment of every single thing your average /pol/ poster hates. Trying to reconcile my beliefs with voting for these people just causes extreme cognitive dissonance, and for what really? A really vague notion that they MIGHT cause some tension with the EU as opposed to becoming just another puppet like Syriza, in the hopes that it will somehow improve things in the long run?

No, that's too much of a long shot. I can't bring myself to do it.
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>>78867215
The fact some people on /pol/ votes unironically Unidos Podemos is a mistery
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>>78858337
A fucking donkey and a fucking elephant!!!
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Adopt a FPTP system
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THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>78867215
I never liked Podemos. I don't like how it suddenly appeared after 15M, I don't like their leaders and I don't like their SJW bullshit or the ties it has to Maduroland and communism.

But I know if they win by a small majority they will be forced to concede in many aspects, that means instead of doing what they want they will do what they need to get elected next time.

That means they should keep it simple: they should tell EU "no" a few times, chase corruption away and protect the lower classes/enterpreneurs to reactivate the economy for real.

If they did anything too extreme it would be political suicide and anticipated elections would come, which no doubt would be won by PP with an absolute victory. 4 years of risk or 4 years of ensured loss. Your pick.

>>78867465
Because you can't think in "victory or defeat" since there's no party that represents your interests. You must think in pacts. Make them kill each other. For example; I unironically voted CUP as a grand scheme. Now before you tell me to fuck off to North Korea let me explain:

I knew there was no way CUP, a feminazi SJW party, could win. I din't want the old parties winning and I didn't want Catalan independence. What was the best option? CUP.

Now let me tell you why: Artur Mas from CiU having to pact with CUP meant King Artur losing his throne because their ideologies clashed too much and having Mas in power meant CUP getting cucked, which they would never allow it. My vote was meant to cut the head of the independentist snake.

What happened?
CUP and CiU took so fucking long to strike a deal that CUP voters screeched and felt betrayed and CiU voters felt that they were going nowhere with them. End game? CUP losing voters, CiU losing voters, Mas REMOVED from the political battle and the referendum doomed before it's even born. Leaders losing their leadership, parties losing their votes. What would happen if a referendum took place months later? They would have been absolutely BTFO.
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>>78871564
My point is that we must vote according to our ideology to make the existing parties cancel each other. If they win without a fight they will fuck your ass.

It doesn't matter who you vote as long as you make sure they end up doing what you want, not what they want. Of course not everyone will think like you and there's a chance you may fuck up, but that's the game. Get better at it. Right now our priority is to have a decent right and to get the left away from the commie/sjw trend into a more moderate area.
Parties that actually want to improve things. To do that we must vote things we may not agree with.
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>>78871564
>>78871982
wholeheartedly agreed
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>>78871564
>I unironically voted CUP as a grand scheme
>My vote was meant to cut the head of the independentist snake
>CUP losing voters, CiU losing voters, Mas REMOVED from the political battle and the referendum doomed before it's even born

Holy shit.
10/10
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Are there any Galician parties?
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>>78855963
You again? Get the fuck out already mate.

What happened, some spaniard fucked your girlfriend? Seriously, I am getting really pissed off at you.
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>>78871564
The main problem with Podemos is that they cant protect the lower classes and enterpreneurs at all. If anything, their recipe to fix the spanish economy wil fuck the lower classes the most, followed by the middle class.

You cant say the richest 2% of the population is going to pay for every social policy they want to implement, and then propose raising public spending by four times the amount of money the richest 2% earn in a year.

As always, the poorest classes would have had to pay for all that spending.
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>>78877200
Yes, but they are all leftist cucks. There is a national-socialistic movement in Galicia, but very minoritary.

Even less when they got judged three years ago for "racial hatred"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCF0e8zRymc&bpctr=1466996015
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>>78849438
35% unemployment
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>>78878489
Which means more and less.
More because people have shit precarious jobs.
Less because they have jobs they don't declare.
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>>78875339
Yeah. But they don't give a shit. They are either too naïve or just blatantly lying.
God bless the ECB so these guys won't be allowed to depreciate our currency and print more money for the lulz if they win someday.
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>>78880426
Meant for
>>78877993
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>>78878332

fuck

i have a boner for Galicia
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>>78852420

>Catalonia & Basque

Every fucking time. Truly, pic related couldn't be any more right.
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