https://youtu.be/qx8hrhBZJ98
Why are Turks so fucking based?
>>78829597
At least now you've admitted your one of them
That's a Mongolian though
>>78829597
go damn it greece. all these feels. modern turks are not based like this. they are european mongrels controlled by jew tier saudis. I wish we could be like this
>>78830000
What's the difference?
jk, it's Tuvan
Nice quads
>>78830164
>modern turks
Tuvans have nothing to do with Turks, they are literally Mongolians. They are known for 2 things:
1) always carrying knives around, even in the fucking army where they check on everybody's belongings weekly they manage to sneak in shivs, every single one of them
2) being Africa tier illiterate fucks
>>78831196
>Turks have nothing to do with Mongolians
ok
>>78831196
>russian
>calling anyone africa tier
Vlad don't you have to go stab someone and then squat over them?
>>78831480
When was last time you've seen a Turk?
>Greece
Oh, probably this morning in the mirror.
Modern Anatolian Turks and modern Mongolians have nothing to do with each other if that's less triggering for you.
>>78831745
That's the joke, they are even worse than Russians. About half of them can't even read.
>>78831764
as crimean tatar i do look like that so go fuck yourself vlad
>>78831878
kek
you can't really be worse than a russian unless you go full arab or jew
>>78831764
t. Tatar
>born with mongolian spot (it faded when im 4)
>can pass as a local in kazakhstan
>can ride horse
>drunk kımız
>family are full of secular nationalists
>mfw sharping my autism with reading about tengrism as we speak
>>78829597
>Turks
>Based
>>78832136
>can ride horse
>drunk kımız
>sharping my autism with reading about tengrism as we speak
Based desu.
>>78830000
Turks plagiarized all of Mongolian culture
It's true Turkic people have an origin from those areas, but it would be like French people today being proud of things Swedish/Norweigan people doing (since Normans are descendants of Vikings, hence all French people are also Scandinavian)
>>78829597
Finland is a great country, but they drink too much vodka.
>>78832349
more like conquered my mongols and adapted to the culture
>>78831196
>The real Turks are Anatolian Turks, not Siberian Turks!
>Just because I'm a Russian Turk doesn't mean I'm a Turk!
>You are a Turk greasy Greek!! Argh!!
ok
>>78832136
It's complicated. I hate the Ottomans, but truly respect actual Turkic people. I guess it's the Arab/Muslim component in the Ottomans that makes them unlikeable.
Does your Turkic affinity make you associate yourself with the Ottomans, or do you simply identify as somewhat Turkic? I'm asking because most Turks I've interacted with seem to identify as Mediterranean/Anatolian before they even think about Mongol/Turks/Siberians.
Also, where were you born? In the central/eastern parts of Turkey I assume?
>>78833019
For me Ottomans were 5/10 at best actually, but I accept Ottoman Era as part of our history, can't deny that.
From what I seen most Turks define themselves as "pureblood 100% Turk etc" rather than Anatolian(even if it's true that most of them are genetically closer to Anatolians), but I'm actually fine with that, I rather see them accepting themselves as Turks instead of Arabs or "Ottomans". Turkish nationalism is the cure for Islam, that's why Atatürk forced it.
As a side note, there is no such a word as "Turkic" in Turkish language, we all call those people as Turks.
>where were you born?
My dad is a tatar from Eskişehir, mom is a Yörük from Muğla.
>>78833019
>>78834082
Oh and I identify myself/my heritage Turks and Ottomans were part of our journey
>>78829597
His face looks too compassionate to be a Turk, this is how I'll end up soon with hair loss, can't wait to scare everyone with my manlet height and broad body 2bh.
>>78834082
>Turkish nationalism is the cure for Islam, that's why Atatürk forced it.
Couldn't agree more. I respect Ataturk for creating the more secular Turkey and for removing the Arab element from it.
>As a side note, there is no such a word as "Turkic" in Turkish language, we all call those people as Turks.
The differentiation is something like German vs Germanic. For example, Sweden is Germanic, but not German. From a grammatical standpoint, it would probably be more correct to call Turkish nationals "Turkish", rather than simply "Turks", but since "Turk" is generally correlated with Turkey/Turkish nationals, Turkic is often used to describe the more general Turkic ethnicity (ie. including Uyghurs, Tuvans, Tatars, Turkmen, etc.).
They are Turks, of course, but it gets a bit confusing when the intention is to describe their cultural heritage rather than their ethnicity.
Thanks for the info. I've had more interaction with Turks closer to the coastlines. I always thought the Turks of more authentic Turkic ancestry were a bit deeper into Anatolia. Didn't realise specific denominations like Yörüks and Tatars were relatively westwise.
>>78836110
Speaking of Tuvans, a timeless classic:
https://youtu.be/p6WeLHRRsOQ
>>78836317
>>78836110
Np m8, nice song btw.
Their anthem is pretty cool too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBnAZ_qSYJU
Also if you are interested in learning about Old Turkic religion/Tengrism I recommend you to take look at it, It's pretty fun to read and learn. It's actually way better and way more deep than Islam, shame that we stopped practicing it, but at least we still have some cultural elements like pic related.
>>78835854
>scaring anyone with manlet height
kek
try being broad as fuck at 6'2'' mate
>>78837302
>even babtism water has to be saved in islam
fucking poorfags
https://youtu.be/JKKbxZvj0lQ
>>78837302
Mate, that's how I feel about the Greek national religion. Would much rather we had maintained it instead of Christianity. Like you guys, we integrated some of its features in Orthodoxy (unlike the other Christian denominations), so I'm at least glad for that.
Will definitely take a look in Tengrism. I've always been interested to see where Shamanism derives from and how it was actually practiced. Seems rather unique, outside the spectrum of the more common Abrahamic- and Hinduistic-based faiths.
>>78837788
My roomates gf got scared, that's enough
>>78838218
I've read about Platonism and Pythagoreanism like 1-2 years ago while I was learning about Hermeticism(I find Trismegistus as a really interesting figure), they were really deep, unique and mystical. (Will definitely read about them more when I get time, got an elibrary about them) Greeks were really good on thinking and theorizing. That's why Ancient Greece and Rome are one of my favourite civilizations.
Anyway, I gotta go now, cya later m8.
>>78829597
They're not, you're just a faggot.
>>78829597
Much love Greekbro
You are the only Balkanbros we like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmKsV3aamTc
Based music
>>78837788
>tfw when 188 cm tall
>107 kg
>bearmode, used to be /fit/, now slightly /fat/
>even though I am big, there are literally hundreds of people bigger and scarier than me.
>feels bad man.
>>78839761
just turn on WWE and you will see dozens of people whose statures are absolutely humbling to even the biggest cunts.
It's actually kind of amazing how those fuckers are all 7'0 and absolutely massive
>>78840112
>wwe
>7ft
when was the last time u watched wwe?
>>78829597
fuck off turk
>>78840750
?
>>78829597
> greece flag
> called Turks based.
u alright m8?
>>78829690
ahahahahaha great
![photo_22052[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hA6HDme.jpg "photo_22052[1].jpg")
I guess you could call Central Asians part of the Turkic peoples, even though they're just as closely related to the Xiongnu than they are to the Turks. Most of them only adopted Islam because the Mongols adopted Islam lite back in the 1400's and 1500's. A lot of them still drink alcohol, and eat pork when they can.
![unity3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8KqeCot.jpg "unity3[1].jpg")
>>78843394
Tell me, do these people look Turkic to you? No? Then why would Mongols be Turks? Mongols are halfway between this and the Manchus.
>>78837864
it's not water it's molten lead
![forum02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/86OJhp8.jpg "forum02[1].jpg")
>>78843684
Kazakhs and Mongols look East Asian. "Destroyers of Constantinople" Turks look specifically darker and more Arabian than Chinese.
>>78836110
most of rather unmixed turks are located in the mountain ranges of western parts of turkey, go figure
>>78843763
Oh shit
You wuz Tangaryens and shiet
>>78842003
>not getting the joke
ffs /pol/ dont be so dense.
![mp-mongolian-children-outside-ger[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KRbTU3c.jpg "mp-mongolian-children-outside-ger[1].jpg")
Now for some people who actually live in Mongolia proper.
>WE WUZ MONGOLS AND SHIEEET
>>78843984
that's because there's three denominations of Turkic people. Kıpçak( Kazakhs, Tatar and other Chink lookings), Karluk(Uzbeks and Uygurs) and Oğuz (Turks, Azerbaijani and Turkmens).
Oğuz is next to İran and they're influenced from them.
![turkic_spread[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZyLYB63.jpg "turkic_spread[1].jpg")
>>78844406
>WE WUZ
Turks are the descendants of the Xiongnu, East Scythians, and proto pooinloos. That does not make the Xiongnu descendants (Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Tatars) Turkic. That's a stupid classification. It would be like me calling the Arabians European peoples just because our ancestors divulged only 15k years ago.
![img_800_d20130917144731[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5Mvedyn.jpg "img_800_d20130917144731[1].jpg")
>>78845154
And yes, I'm saying that just because they mixed with Proto-Turkic peoples doesn't make them Turkic. Euros, Arabs, Persians, and Pooinloos all came from the Proto-IE peoples, but you would not call a Persian as a German, or an Italian as a Bangladeshi.
>>78845154
turks and mongols cucked and slaughtered them into oblivion. no such a thing anymore.
>>78844406
Turks of Turkey are mixed Greeks with Arabs. Your Asian admixture is negligible
>>78845783
Ethnic groups take their names from the dominant culture. All of them, except the more insignificant, are melting pots of more than one proto-people, but one culture and language always dominates others.
For instance, do you also think Bulgarians aren't Slavic? They technically descent mainly from Thracian phyla, and yet they are speak a Slavic language and have a Turkic-based name (Bulgar).
What about the Greeks? Are they Middle Eastern, considering that the J2 component that came from the Minoans makes for about 1/3rd of Haplogroups? Or maybe they are North African, considering E1b1b (also at about 1/3rd) comes from there and was actually the earliest Haplogroup in the region (via the Pelasgians)? The R1a/R1b component from the actual proto-Greeks is merely at about 1/3rd itself, so why are Greeks considered European?
There are many ways in which ethnic groups can be related. Genetically, linguistically, culturally, etc. Language and culture are the best ways of distinction. That's why you see Cypriots be considered Greek, or Sardinians be considered Italian, despite the fact that genetic relation is only partial.
Mongol/Tuvan folk music is definitely best Asian traditional music.
