Was holocaust real?
>>78827813
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/24/holocaust-survivor-lied-joseph-hirt-auschwitz
No.
Can't answer. Country of freedom they said.
Obviously not, you still seem fine.
>>78828032
This guy just said he was lying about his past.
Even the historian mentioned in the article says he is not a holocaust denier.
>>78828669
That's real rich coming from a mudslime balk.
>>78829058
If one is lying about the holocaust how many others could be lying as well?
>>78827813
No, my grandparents lied to me because they want me to shill for them once they're dead, obviously
Grow the fuck up. There's plenty of evidence if you just bother to look it up, including eye-witnesses, Nazi officers admitting to their wrongdoings and Eichmann's sentence (among others)
>>78829504
To be honest I was looking for something more solid than 'all of them could be lying'.
The same can be applied to stormfags too, but for the sake of the discussion I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
>>78830115
>Grandparents
It should be your great grandparents chaim
>>78830115
>There's plenty of (((evidence)))
>>78827813
read nizkor. Whenever you bring it up, stormfags plug their ears. They can't bear to see their tenuous arguments struck down so authoritatively.
http://www.nizkor.org
>>78827813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
>>78830233
Stormfags lie a lot. Almost every "talmud is evil" picture that's posted here contains false quotes
>>78830355
I'm not 12, unlike you mate
Fuck off
>>78830388
Well, if you're going to dismiss every piece of evidence you see you're not going to reach a conclusion
>>78827813
> Was the holocaust real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oinItLYg7qQ
>>78827813
I've never heard of the holocaust before, what is it?
No
>>78830409
I have. It's garbage full of willful misinfo
>>78827813
yes
but its often exaggerated at times
>>78830409
>This site is intended for educational purposes to teach about the Holocaust and to combat hatred.
Then why are we supposed to hate those 90+ years old German guys who may or may not have done anything wrong and destroy the last few years of their lives, just because they were alive during the 2nd world war?
>>78827813
Yes, stop denying the polish death camps, you filthy antisemite!
>>78830955
>>78831184
Not an argument
Start your journey here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM
If you don´t want to invest the time, then nobody can help you. It takes a few hours of videos and a few hundred pages of reading should same random infographics not convince you.
I haven't looked into it.
But if someone is a compulsive lier, I will eventually take the default position that whatever they say is a lie.
Jews are compulsive liers.
>>78827813
don't listen to /pol/ on this one
they just really hate Jews, so they wont believe anything that's associated with Jews
Just ask your self how possible is it for millions of Jewish people to keep this lie up so well
like >>78831147 says
its probably exaggerated but yes the holocaust did happen.
>>78830115
Awful shit happened during WW II, committed by all sides. I don't think the story is anywhere near as clear cut as people would like to think though.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/auschwitz-guards-account-of-gas-chamber-scene-differs-from-survivors/
/\ One example of countless.
There's significant circumstantial evidence that the Soviets kill a great deal of not just jews, but POW's and other 'disagreeables' during and directly after the war ended.
>>78831784
this guy has his head on right
>>78831406
That's not an argument.
>>78830720
>Almost every "talmud is evil" picture that's posted here contains false quotes
simply wrong
>>78830115
I believe it was indeed real, dear merchant, same as the Reichsmordwoche and Kristallnacht.
I'm asking because I've recently seen an alt-right redpill vid called 'No Apologies' where the author stated that the holocaust was a hoax, kinda a bad move when you're trying to sway sheeple to your side. I'm just curious what stormfags have to say about it.
You can't really fault me for trying to research things instead of just taking whatever I hear on the media for granted, also I'm aware of false-flagging and astroturfing and I believe they apply to both mainstream and independent media.
>>78832080
>'No Apologies' where the author stated that the holocaust was a hoax
Yea that was incredibly stupid. Controlled opposition probably, like Black Pigeon.
>>78832071
Did you bother verifying any of them?
>>78827813
Pure Coincidence !
It was real but the numbers are inflated.
>>78832291
"Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
This one is real and all we need. Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L
>>78832291
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/short.html
Seriously? Holocaust denial? My fuck, get a life. Why not deny the entire war while you're at it.
There's an entire library of photos and tapes, confessions from countless Germans, eyewitness testimony from thousands of Allied soldiers who were, you know, there. And, of course, all those Jews who were in Europe in 1939 and seem to have disappeared by 1945.
>"No, but it should've." - Ben "Killing kikes till the morning lights" Garrisson
Is anything real?
>>78827813
Yes, but after visiting mainland Europe it's obvious the only crime was stopping it before the Gypsies were rid of
>>78832080
No, I understand. I'm just trying to show my side to balance it, since you're going to hear a lot of shit, and what I'm asking you to do is to always verify, because a lot of the stuff they say is just plainly false
>>78832779
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html
>Midrash Talpioth, 225-L. This is not a volume of the Talmud. It is something composed by a Turkish Jew in the 18th century. His name was Elijah ben Solomom Abraham, ha-Kohen.
>>78830115
does this look familiar?
We're trying to track down the families of the shoah'd
>>78833428
Don't you have school?
>>78827813
>holocaust means whole burned offering
>Jews still alive
So no.
>>78831784
There's a lot of misinformation, I'm sure of that, but there's no question about whether the Holocaust (a systematic extermination of Jews, as well as gay people and the mentally ill) occurred or not, whether you decide to call it "The Final Solution" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution) or "awful shit that happened during WW II" (not to disrespect you. I'm just saying that this was different)
>>78833653
I think you're confused.
We don't have missiles falling from the sky here.
>>78830720
What did your grandparents tell you?
Were they in a camp, and if so which one?
>>78827813
If they did do it, what would change in your mind? They were cleaning their country of undesirables, a luxury no one except the jews have.
>>78834164
explain this
>>78834209
>We don't have missiles falling from the sky here.
I think you mean "homemade fireworks"
OY VEY WE'RE UNDER ATTACK
>>78831784
They killed 11 million in total, 6 million being jews. The krauts were just asking to get exterminated
>>78827813
The persecutions of jews by the German National socialist party is real.
What are false are the causes, the means and the outcomes
>>78834600
yes good point let's send more shekels
>>78834437
Filty stinky krauts trying to kill as many people before their race gets fucked out of existance by slavs, tommy and cowboys?
>>78833824
> exterminator went to my house but there's still ants so that means that he didn't visit my house
>>78834437
Give me sources for that and I'll try to explain
>>78834795
>>78834209
> tfw struck between "life in Israel is miserable haha" and "Hamas rockets are toy rockets"
>>78833428
I know that guy.
His name was Ashley Ash.
who gives le fuck
>>78830543
>>78831596
>This video is not available in your country.
Thanks for the freedoms, Prawo i Sprawiedliwość! Oh, wait.
>>78830898
I don't know, I'm curious as well. Maybe it's some kind of anime.
>>78831391
>polish death camps
Funny thing, my country now sues every organisation that uses this term because it implies that the Poles were in charge of them.
>>78831618
The Jews fear the Samurai.
>>78831711
>>78831784
>its probably exaggerated but yes the holocaust did happen
>Awful shit happened during WW II, committed by all sides.
That's my position too, also fuck the soviets.
>>78833391
>what I'm asking you to do is to always verify
That's the plan, dear merchant.
>>78834437
>>78835029
The Jews were basically all in Poland anyway, so the picture doesn't say anything much apart from wartime propaganda.
Whether or not the Soviets lied about death camps is another matter really.
>>78830115
Im not saying horrible things didn't happen to the jewish people, but the 6 million figure was and remains highly inflated
>>78827813
Several hundreds thousands jews died from different reasons in camps. That's it. Not 6 bizillion.
>>78830409
>http://www.nizkor.org
>(((by sheer luck))). Goebbels' diary, for example, was barely rescued from being sold as 7,000 pages of scrap paper, but buried in the scattered manuscript were several telling entries
>all this "evidence" that came out only two or three years AFTER the war
>human soap is real meme
>lampshades are real meme
>Total number of Jews killed 5,721,500
Yeah, I'm not reading all of this drivel. I would have believed if it was like 1 or 2 million, but this is just like shooting themselves in the foot.
>>78835029
No, in your scenario it would mean "there was no ant extermination".
I don't really care whether it happened or not, if it did it didn't kill enough of you to stop your shenanigans and if it didn't then it should have.
There's really no point arguing about something we can't check or change.
>>78835246
>who gives le fuck
Come on Bela. The holohoax is the number one argument waved above the head of nationalist sentiment in the west.
>OY VEY THE XENOPHOBIA
>IT'S LIKE THE THIRD REICH ALL OVER AGAIN
>pic related, great read.
>>78827813
Is grand-pa a lampshade?
>>78835396
Oh, sorry. I agree
>>78835569
> We can't check
If you keep your eyes closed, then you're not wrong
>>78835569
> if it did it didn't kill enough of you to stop your shenanigans and if it didn't then it should have.
There we go
>>78836048
Would the Jewish community be willing to have the "mass graves" digged up? All of them?
Would that even be legal in the places where there are "mass graves"?
>>78836141
What, am I supposed to be a scheming little cunt about it?
Reminder for all to watch the following documentary, made by an Israeli. Shows how the ADL's kike-in-chief ((Abe Foxman)) bullies western nations into bowing down to Jews. There's also some great footage of Israeli children being spoonfed the greatest sham in history. No one can come out of watching this and be LESS anti-semitic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xGBU0ljUY
Dresden bombing was a great german hoax
When you have big nazi directors like Leni Riefenstahl shilling hard for hitler, then all these ""real photos"" are actually movie props.
Allied planes didn't even hit Dresden. Hitler wanted to make it look like the Allies are killing innocent civilians so Germany can get more sympathy from natural countries and its allies.
Just like Olympia, Riefenstahl spent hours (maybe days) on positioning movie props just to get that perfect shot.
Nobody died at Dresden, it's just another aryan scheme like the rest of the nazi propaganda.
>muh holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZX90Jn4wok
>>78836141
>goy my grand parents where in the holocost believe me
sure thing
>>78836655
>Would the Jewish community be willing to have the "mass graves" digged up? All of them?
I would love to see that.
To have the places examined by experts like they did in the following example.
http://www.welt.de/kultur/history/article11351260/Ein-Massenmord-vor-4500-Jahren-wird-aufgeklaert.html
>>78834164
The fact the holocaust occurred isn't really a question, that's abundantly clear. I'm just not sure it was Nazi Germany that did all of the killing. The USA and Great Britain really did turn a blind eye to what the soviets were doing, much less inspect the concentration camps in the areas they were occupying; taking Stalin's word for it that all was handled and well.
>>78835350
There's estimates of 10+ million people dying in the USSR from ethnic and ideological purges. Some estimates put it higher than total war deaths in WW II. Communism is... not good.
>>78827813
nah. it is just an overused meme by the kikes.
>>78834699
Someone remembers the other 5 million.
>best leaf you don't need a wall
>>78830115
>nazis hated jews
yes
>jews were sent to camps
yes
>they were exterminated in mass
no
>6 million died
no
>>78834699
>The krauts were just asking to get exterminated
>>78838175
>selling dead kids fake ashes
Kikes really are pure filth aren't they?
>>78832223
>Controlled opposition probably, like Black Pigeon.
Interesting. I didn't watch his stuff at all but I thought he was the 'Sargon of Akkad' or 'Harmful Opinions' kind of guy.
>>78833165
Probably not.
>>78834360
>If they did do it, what would change in your mind?
Nothing really.
I'm just curious why stormfags think it's so important these days, especially considering that they're 'not sorry' for what their ancestors did.
>>78828669
i hate albanian but i like this post
>>78827813
Of course it was real. Onlly stormfronts retards and neo nazi faggots actually believe it was a fabrication.
Now if we were talking about the number 6 million it's a totally valid objection. But then the question arises: Wha t is the difference if it was 5 million instead of 6 millions jews? What difference does it make?
What mommy?
>>78827813
>>78827813
2
>>78827813
3
>>78827813
Yes.
>>78827813
4
>>78830115
This is coming from a Jew I don't trust you.
>>78827813
5
It was real...IN THEIR HEADS
>>78827813
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
>>78827813
I think denying the holocaust of ww2 would be just as idiotic as denying the Armenian genocide, but I am of a mind that the numbers were heavily exaggerated, that many of the exact numbers, reports, documents, files, etc were falsified, edited, or heavily censored to support the rise of a Jewish Israeli state. I think its awful that "the jews"(whom I wouldn't even consider real jews desu) politicized the deaths of all these people for their own agenda, but eh, that's politiks for you.
>>78827813
6
>>78840753
How about the difference between 6 million and 500 thousand that died from Typhus as a result of Allied bombing of german supply lines?
>>78827813
7
>>78827813
No, it wasn't. Hitler was just an inbred retard who attacked Russia in winter and then he killed himself like a coward.
>>78827813
8
>>78827813
>Was holocaust real?
The Holocaust literally did not happen.
There is zero evidence for the Holocaust.
>>78833099
my fuck? who says that? learn to swear Canada
>>78827813
10
There's another holohoax bread here. Great quality info as well
>>78837091
Here is a link to essential reading.
http://pastebin.com/TzZC78cp
>>78837113
Disgusting lies, as usual. Horrible, disgusting lies. How can you live with yourself I wonder.
>>78827813
I am legally not permitted to express doubt on this topic.
>>78842560
If it were completely true it would stand up to criticism. The truth does not need legal protection.
This is why California's proposed law against speaking out on climate change is a problem.
We don't need laws to prevent people from questioning the moon landing.
>>78842560
You dam thought criminal you how dare you have your own thoughts and opinions.
>>78827813
>Hitler was a hero who cleansed the Aryan race
>Holocaust didn't happen
It's time to choose /pol..
>>78842878
>The truth does not need legal protection.
Spot on 100%
>>78842925
>Hitler was a hero who cleansed the Aryan race
>>Holocaust didn't happen
How are those two statements mutually exclusive?
>>78841278
Lul wut? Trauma, gene?
>>78834437
pure coincidence goy
>>78841008
But based mom is the exception right?
>>78841362
>I will ignore the huge anti semite ehetoric the nazis used, and i will also ignore the anti semite actions the nazi did, such as Kristallnacht
>I will also ignore the shootings of jews in Ukraine
>Let us put together millions of jews in terrible squalor during wartime and without food
>This is totally not genocide
hah yes but............ the japs did far worse to there Chinese prisoners. the ruskys were blatant evil. and then there's the usa,,,,,,,,,, our camp atrocity's were never brought to light but we were by far the worst of them all , mk ultra was predeceased in the ww2 labs of the usa.
>>78827813
You have to specify which holocaust. There were many.
>>78847111
Only one real one, though.
>>78847312
Well, more germans died after the war the during the war. Add these dead to the ones dying from the terror bombing and you get 3-4 million easily.
>>78842363
Enough of your lies, German.
Not only you're trying to destroy Europe once again with multiculturalism, but you're doing it with propaganda. In world war II you used propaganda to brainwash the world into thinking that the aryans are the superior race, even when their clear goal is to destroy everyone around them and conquer the world while making everyone worship their satanic ideology to respect and bow down to the german civilization.
Now you are using propaganda posters, movies and campaigns to make Europe feel sorry for the so-called refugees so their countries will be flooded by uneducated monkeys. What happened suddenly to the hard-on for the aryan race?
The eternal German is a filthy shapeshifter who will try to destroy everything around him by sheer force and by tricking its allies. The German is the cancer destroying the world. We must remove the cancer before it tries to take us again.
>>78843049
How are they not?
Let me guess by the term ''holocoast'' people mean the death camps like Aushwitz and Treblinka? You know there were mass executions in Ukraine that happened in wilderness with one having about 200k Jews.
>>78849309
They are retards. They only see what they want to see. How does a jew watch this kind of denying? Any cool story fro Israel? Any relative involved in holocaust?
>>78851046
Only my dad's side is Jewish and they managed to flee to Uzbekistan if I'm not mistaken before the Nazis came.
>>78830115
>There's plenty of evidence if you just bother to look it up
why don't you save us the trouble and provide it if the evidence is so abundant?
The only thing that makes the topic irrevocably a chore to study and discuss is that the countries involved aren't absolute masters of it.
YOU tell ME, Poland and Germany, you can actually visit the places, your government has the paperwork and documents in your own native tongue.
WAS it real?
>>78853316
>paperwork
what paperwork?
>>78853689
Well, that's up to them to say
You can't have a murder camp without SOME logistics, where would the food, bullets, gas, materials etc etc come from and then go to.
>>78830720
>Well, if you're going to dismiss every piece of evidence you see you're not going to reach a conclusion
Wich one? Your only evidence is 'People say it was real'
Jews die during WWII, big deal, it was a fucking world war. But the holocaust never happen, your 'gas chambers' were never proven and your big Nazi officers admitting the holocaust was a guy who only speak German and magically he testify and sign in English.
Fuck off, is the person who claime something happen the one who need to provide evidence and you didn't provide any
((( >>78830115 )))
That would indeed be a Jewish thing to do.
