Redpill me on Sandy Hook.
With almost every shooting ever, you are left with painfully obvious evidence. Video of shots being fired, pictures of dead bodies, hundreds of people in an area recounting what happened, twitter video, the list goes on.
With Sandy Hook, none of that seems to be present. With limited knowledge on the subject, here are a few things I don't understand:
A small, fragile, autist whose own father mentioned he could "Barely tie his own shoes" and who had almost no weapons experience was able to kill 26 people leaving 0 injured in ~6 minutes. As someone in the military world and friends with numerous special forces operators, they've said even THEY would have to get incredibly lucky to leave 0 wounded, let alone kill 26 children and adults, with time to shoot 150+ rounds and reload between. This part is the most bizarre to me.
There are no pictures released from this event. You saw pictures from the Bataclan the day after. You see pictures from Columbine and video as well. Every shooting that takes place his obvious evidence that you'd be a fool to doubt.
Many paramedics and other emergency personnel were essentially blocked off from entering the site. Only a select few people were allowed inside the school. It was torn down not long after.
The community and first responders were given upwards of 140 million dollars through tax dollars and donations.
We can go in depth into the mysteries of people walking in circles through the area or human reaction to the event or stories not adding up. However, I feel those very strange circumstances aren't even required to cast serious doubt on this "event" after you have read the few points I have made.
>>78821142
there is nothing to redpill. Shooter was mental ill boy.
drill
>>78821142
Don't listen to the autists on this site.
>>78821142
I understand what you say. But think, dude, think.
If it did not happen: almost everyone in the town had to be in on the plot. Did the kids leave town? did they not exist? In both cases, lots of neighbors would know. Did the teachers leave town, or did they not exist? In both cases lots of people would know.
What about all the first graders? Were they all in on the plot? How do you get five year olds to learn a script and never say anything?
Were all the cops and paramedics in on it? were all the hospitals and funeral homes in on it?
It's not just 10 crisis actors. It's a whole town that must change for the rest of their lives, because of MUH GUNZ.
either that, or it happened.
You seriously can't tell which is realistic and which is not?????
I hope you are trolling. Otherwise you are one broken person with no brain.
>>78825123
>What about all the first graders? Were they all in on the plot? How do you get five year olds to learn a script and never say anything?
Children are easily fooled.
>Were all the cops and paramedics in on it? were all the hospitals and funeral homes in on it?
IIRC only a few paramedics were allowed inside the school. Everyone else just believes they saw dead bodies.
what probably happened is he left his AR in the trunk of his car (theres a photo of the police finding it) and only used glocks to do the shooting, but this doesnt fit the muh assault weapons narrative so they clamped down real hard on the media
the whole thing being fake is fucking retarded since obviously the US government is not shy of murdering people for real
>>78825483
>Children are easily fooled.
It's hard to convince a child that his friends died if they still live there. It's hard to convince a child his friends died if they never went to school.
which is it? and remember that all the parents of every first grader in that school have to be convinced by their kids too.
which is it? real kids left town, or fake kids never went to the school?
pick one.
Sandy Hook was an inside job and those are crisis actors. This was a plan by the leftists to push anti gun agenda fronted by Obama and Shillary.
>>78826366
then answer this. please. I'm bored and I like to shoot fish in a barrel.
answer this:>>78826109
>>78826548
if it never happened, please answer a few questions. start with this simple one: >>78826109
>>78826109
I think you're making assumptions about what the kids were told happened.
Kids don't know every student in their school. You could easily tell a child that some classroom down the hall just got murdered and they would have no way of verifying the information.
They would probably have a mix of real kids leaving town, and fake kids that never existed. That way a few real kids (who's parents were in on it) would have made some friends and be known before disappearing. They'd add some fake kids to fluff up the numbers, and nobody would doubt them because they knew a real kid.
This is not red pill. Its tin foil.
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>>78826697
I want to add that I don't claim to know what happened here. However, many aspects of the official story do not match the evidence.
Someone is lying. Did Gene Rosen make up his story about finding the kids, or is the official story inaccurate?
>>78826697
>Kids don't know every student in their school.
In a small school like that they do.
but if they don't, a teacher does.
so the real kids who left town. they and their family can never have contact with anyone? you do realize that all of the kids names and faces were publicized don't you?
If your niece was killed, but then showed up for christmas, what would you say?
of the hundreds if not thousands of people who have a connection to the dead people, at least one would speak up.
Thanks obama
Yeah, the Sandy Hook thing is weird, especially if you look of the personal life of Adam.
Adam's mother claimed to have not seen him in months because he was hiding in his bedroom. Ummm... what did he do for food and water? Did she leave it in front of his door like a prisoner lol?
>>78826996
who is gene rosen?
if the kids were not killed, why would so many people agree to lie about it? how do you disrupt an entire town like that? and if the kids were real, they have to go into permanent hiding or some friend or relative will speak up.
if the kids were fake, the whole school had to be involved, or someone would say that they never attended the school.
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>>78826756
Shills are quick to reply today
>>78827032
>In a small school like that they do.
The school had about 600 students
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>>78827227
stop posting nonsense for a minute and answer: did kids die? were the names and faces of fake kids?
it's real simple. post your 100 infographs while you talk to reality.
>>78827499
>Update
>>78827032
>so the real kids who left town. they and their family can never have contact with anyone? you do realize that all of the kids names and faces were publicized don't you?
I would have chosen actors that did not have large families. Many people do not keep in contact with their families, they'd make perfect actors.
>of the hundreds if not thousands of people
Absurd. We're talking about elementary school kids in a small town. Why would anybody know who they are?
>>78827472
>The school had about 600 students
real or fake kids? either way at least 100 people in that school know.
real or fake?
When did "red pill" become tin-foil-hat tier?
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>>78827564
Okay that is all of my SandyHook folder.
I can try to answer questions if you have them, but I am no expert.
>>78827572
>. Why would anybody know who they are?
if your death were publicized all over canada today, a lot of people would say "i know that guy". 26 deaths x a lot is at least 100.
don't argue exact numbers, argue common sense.
so you say crisis actors, meaning none of the kids actually lived in the town or went to the school. why has no one who lived there said this?
>>78827302
Gene Rosen is a man who claimed to help several children who fled the school.
His story does not match the evidence, and he has given multiple different versions of the tale. He is also seen on camera apparently rehearsing the story.
>why would so many people agree to lie about it?
It's not a lot of people though. It's one family that said "my kid is dead," before leaving town. It's really not so impossible to pull off.
Remember that nobody saw any bodies.
>>78827881
the dead people: real or fake?
>>78827499
Those faces aren't even that similar. GR8 B8 thread.
>>78827957
>It's not a lot of people though.
all the cops, paramedics, school staff, students, funeral home??? not to mention lanza's family.
how do you get them to all lie?
how do you get his dad to say his son was a mass murderer?
>>78827881
the dead people: real or fake? simple question.
>>78827572
mabey its possible that these are photos of foreign children? the government can easily give them a fake identity and backstory.
could be that the photos were just randomly generated as well. im sure they have the technology for such a thing.
>>78827650
My personal opinion is that no kids were killed.. look at lack of response to Wolfgang halbigs foia requests, no medical helicopters to take kids to the hospitals. The weird ME, the bus driver that allowed the kids to hang out at gene rosens house. And the people circling the fire house lastly.
>>78827994
Not sure.
We are told they died but there is no hard evidence other then their word.
Our government is not above killing its people to gain political traction as noted in Operation North woods and possibly 9/11.
The info graphs I posted definitely raise some good questions about the legitimacy of the whole event when there is not even consistency among the children who report what lanza was wearing.
>>78825123
>especially when the 1st graders "testimony" of what happened is not given by the CHILDREN THEMSELVES... but by
THIS GUY
>guy related
>"oy... so the busdriver, for no reason, dropped all the kids off on my front lawn, even though none of them are related to me!
>Affter saying, "Creepy old smiling jew... take these children who are in my care.. I now leave them with you!"
>So I took the little goyim into my house... luckily I had lots of toys there for my grandson! They told me OUR TEACHER IS DEAD! SHE HAD BLOOD COMMING OUT OF HER MOUTH!
>I was like.... OY VEY!
Anyone who buys this shit is a world class retard.
Giant fucking Tavistock sideshow.
>>78828524
>t no kids were killed
how do you get the entire town to go along with the lie? teachers, cops, funeral homes, other kids?
Little kids don't have twitter.
>>78825123
>almost everyone in the town had to be in on the plot.
Why is this impossible again?
Hillary should be hanging from a tree, and still millions believe she a goo grl dindu nuffin.
>>78828165
You're assuming that all these people had access to the dead bodies.
Only a few paramedics were allowed into the scene.
I've never even heard witnesses claiming they saw bodies after the shooting so really this is a non-argument.
Why didn't they try to perform CPR on the wounded children?
Why didn't they helicopter the children to the hospital, like at any other incident like this?
Normally a doctor has to announce that a person is officially dead. They perform surgery and emergency procedures even when bodies aren't moving.
None of this happend at sandy hook.
How do you explain the numerous breaches of protocol?
>>78828605
>there is no hard evidence other then their word.
if real kids, then they had to leave town and never contact anyone again. NO WAY
if fake kids, then the whole town is in on the plot: cops, teachers, kids, neighbors, paramedics, funeral homes. NO WAY.
>>78825998
Literally this. Handguns can't stop an army, even though they kill more people by FAR.
>>78828803
>Why is this impossible again?
It's certainly possible. Do you also believe that JFK is still alive somewhere? It's certainly possible.
>>78829093
I believe that you've never touched a woman.
>>78828937
>None of this happend at sandy hook.
well, you convinced me. thanks.
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Shiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
>>78828677
With enough money, people will keep their mouths shut. Funeral homes aren't that hard considering all were closed casket.
Why nitpick this when there's a bunch of things that don't make sense. Why did the cops lie about what time they helped evacuate the students?
>>78828947
I hate to say this but you really seem like a shill.
Every post is an attempt to pigenhole the argument into an "if x than y"
Or "billions of people would have to be involved to pull this off"
14 posts and that's all you've said. Address some of the points I and others have made.
>>78828947
When we are talking conspiracy things that would seem effectively improbable usually are done.
Hence why there is so much stigma around "Conspiracah Thearraah!"
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>>78828432
Also how new are you? honest question
>>78829247
He was convincing at first. But it's very obvious he's shilling
>>78828947
>if fake kids, then the whole town is in on the plot: cops, teachers, kids, neighbors, paramedics, funeral homes. NO WAY.
You're retarded. All you'd need is a few high-ranking officials in each of these professions. The peons generally don't question their superiors at all, ESPECIALLY in a sensitive situation such as this.
Do you really think officer Brown, who has a family to raise, is going to call out his boss on something like this?
>>78829181
That's correct.
If you were actually interested in this you'd watch one of the documentaries on youtube.
They lay out the official story so anyone can understand.
You might not be alarmed that they didn't allow more paramedics into the school, but some of us are.
Why didn't they rush the children to the hospital before declaring them dead?
Who declared them dead in the school? Paramedics don't do that. They try to save the people even when they seem dead.
>>78825123
>if it did not happen: almost everyone in the town had to be in on the plot.
Most all the property in that town has been sold in the past decade for a dollar, this only happens when banks exchange land with either themselves or the federal govt. Furthermore a majority of the people who had kids attend that school moved to town less than three years before the event. And the town has one of the highest rates of people in witness protection living there in the entire nation.
Last point, for a working school there has been a single maintenance request there for over 5 years before sandy hoax. You riddle me this, how many large occupancy buildings have you heard of that have never had a maintenance problem for 5 years straight?
>>78826631
so he lived in sandy hook texas but he shot up sand hook ct?
/r/ing the images of the moss ridden school.that was Sandy hook just before demolition.
>>78821142
You're underestimating his weapons training. He had an absent banker father who was divorced from his mother. His mother would take him to the range to shoot her semi-automatic rifle. This is the rifle that was used in the shooting. Autistic kids can't tie their shoes because they are unaware that it is important that they need to. Once they find something they want to do, they are brutally (almost inhumanly) efficient at executing said objective.
Just like the australian port arthur incident. They blamed god-like off the hip accuracy on some super autist retard. But they got what they wanted in disarming the entire country. Extremely obvious false flag.
>>78828619
Not to mention how many times this guy's story changed between each interview only hours apart.
>>78829247
*POOF!*
And just like that he is gone.
Incredible.
>>78830609
>This is the rifle that was used in the shooting
Blatant misimfo. The "AR" was found in the trunk of his car
>>78821142
we need to talk about sandy hook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxTafqejV6k
>all that effort to fake it
>no nationwide gun control yet
all we have is executive orders, which the next president can remove.
>>78821142
False flag for gun control.
That is all.
>>78830999
about as many times as your sweet trips!
When I saw that guy on the news being interviewed that day... I immediately was like:
>wait... WHY IN THE FUCK would a bus driver, who is a professional adult, just drop all of his charges off at some house where a random creepy looking old jewish man is standing in his front yard?!?!
Shit made absolutely no sense.
None, not it any world.
>>78829920
Can you actually go to the town? Has anyone here confirmed that it even exists?
https://youtu.be/wLHCuzW3-uA
>>78821142
I've been thinking about making a little eroge about Sandy Hook. You play as a new teacher and it's your first day in school. Literally as you step into the classroom for the first time, the shooting starts. You barricade yourself and your class of first-graders in the classroom to wait for help, but police is going to take a couple hours. Since the girls in your class are getting scared, you decide to get to know them. With the shooter getting closer, you realize this could be the end for you. But at the very least, you don't want to die as a kissless virgin, so you decide to take action.
There are a couple different girls you can go for. One girl is the super scared dojikko type who needs help all the time and almost gets herself and you killed a couple times. Another could be the daughter of a redneck with a Trump hat who wants to go out and fight the shooter, so you could decide to go with her and go out in style. How about a perverted girl who fantasizes about getting violated by the shooter? The possibility of interesting characters in this setting is endless. There would of course also be some horror/gore elements a la Corpse Party.
I'm thinking the system could have some kind of gauge that tells you how close the shooter is. With each decision you make, the gauge fills. If the gauge is full, the shooter enters the classroom. Depending on your decisions/flags, a different ending plays out. That should of course include an "everyone dies" end and the true end (harem end).
What do you think, /pol/?
>>78831776
Of course you can go to that town, you can also look at records of property ownership and FOIA school maintenance records.
>>78821142
>Redpill me on Sandy Hook.
Autist shot up a school and killed kindergarteners.
Other autists are too retarded and autistic to believe one of their brothers did it.
All surviving autists come together on /pol/ and shitpost about their massacre.
>>78829920
Your post needs sauce.
>>78830609
Please keep your misunderstanding of autism to yourself. You haven't got a clue.
>>78831124
LOL that was pretty funny. "Shill" gets thrown around a lot, it's to be reminded they are real.
>>78832170
wolfgang halbig provides all the source documentation for what I said. Along with FOIA copies.
>>78831898
I can probably find a place online that will give me maintenance info on Elvis moon mansion, but that doesn't mean it exists.
Have YOU actually been to the town, and seen the school with your own eyes?
>>78831725
>WHY IN THE FUCK would a bus driver, who is a professional adult, just drop all of his charges off at some house where a random creepy looking old jewish man is standing in his front yard?
I thought this exact thing. I'm not saying these people were crisis actors, I have no idea, but this guy was clearly over-acting in the telling of his 'heroic' story
>>78821142
Speaking of mass psyop's, the Virginia Tech got a lot of funding after Cho's massacre on April 16, 2007.
I know a swat guy who went in to Norris Hall when the "corpses were still squirting blood up to the ceiling." He is very straight edge and does not tell lies.
My speculation is that someone was promised a huge amount of money to hurt Virginia Tech and try to get America to ban gun ownership.
It backfired on them that time and many more people began to see that you can't protect yourself by disarming yourself.
I'm not much of a one for false flag but something that always, always sat weird with me was that father smirking and laughing before going in front of the audience to talk about his dead child.
WHAT
THE
FUCK
Somebody talk to me about this shit
>>78821142
The kill count doesn't really surprise me considering the fact that many victims were 6 years olds. I'd imagine most wounds caused by bullets would be fatal at that age. The killer also had access to a fairly large array of guns since his mother was a survivalist and a gun hoarder.
Also pictures of brutally murdered young children would be more shocking than any columbine or bataclan media hence why they were never shown.
>>78832278
Thanks. I assume you mean this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv-lPYx7hSw&list=PLuXGLStSslK7ViunYybl-4Qbx7s6JhOcH
I've been meaning to watch that anyway.
>>78832333
See
>>78832278
Halbig provides many sources and outright copies of whatever FOIAs he gets back, which arent meany as the state stonewalls them at every turn.
>>78832700
Really anything that man produces about the subject is very well done, I have actually donated 100 dollars to him because of how thoroughly he does his work and how well he documents it.
>>78832625
>corpses were still squirting blood up to the ceiling
>He is very straight edge and does not tell lies
>blood up to the ceiling
>does not tell lies
I've got some bad news for you guy
>>78832666
Satan is now shilling
They won't release anything that gets foia requested. Not just "shocking" photos, and who gives a fuck how shocking they are?
This is what gets me. Used to be after a shooting like this, the media would contact the family or do a piece on the anniversary of, to show what changed and all. I ain't seen or heard nothing from that town at all after the shit show. I don't believe or disbelieve the events that transpired because the evidence is so wonky. Someone gonna do some interviews there sometime?
>>78832640
Same here. It wasn't just him, every single family with a dead kid was smiling like they were just thrilled to be on television.
Literally the day after the incident families were on tv, doing interviews, and I didn't see a SINGLE tear.
A normal person would have been inconsolable at the loss of a child or mother. These people didn't give a shit.
That's my new rule when these incidents happen. If the victim's families aren't crying, it's bullshit.
>>78833283
>didn't see a SINGLE tear
THAT is the most screwed up part of the entire thing for me. There were actually prime time television interviews where the mothers would 'break down' and pause but not a single one of them shed an actual tear. It's crazy
>>78825123
what about the donation sides that went online only a day after the shooting, with extra designed logos and stuff?
everyone who lost a kid had an career as actor at some point, and after the shooting they traveled around the country telling propaganda about gun laws.
they didnt released the death certificates, instead they tried to change the law so they dont have to.
>>78833733
>instead they tried to
No, they succeeded.
>>78830709
Reading about port arthur a few years ago really opened my eyes to how fucked up the governments of the world are, there are so many things wrong with that event.
>>78833283
>>78833528
after adam walsh's body was found, his father john walsh (the Americas most wanted guy) was the prime suspect. it was only after a press conference that he was ruled out as a suspect. apparently he was so overcome with emotion that they decided he couldn't possibly have killed his son.
if anyone else is familiar with that conference and has a link i'd appreciate it
>>78823994
who was dragged from his house and executed at the site.
>>78833800
i think this shooting, as tinfoil-hat as it sounds, really was a hoax.
>>78833283
Was Pulse real according to your definition?
>>78834065
The pulse shooting is fishy too. Why were people carrying victims to the club if they got shot in the club?
>>78833940
>so overcome with emotion
exactly how you think a parent would react
most big events are very fishy. remember that painting falling from the wall just as they are filming the interview as if they had just prepared a studio with props for the crisis actors?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv8oclY7h0Q
>>78825123
>What about all the first graders? Were they all in on the plot? How do you get five year olds to learn a script and never say anything?
Hey kids do you want to line up in a single file line and pretend we are a train walking out of this building ???
>>78834065
The fact that not a single tear was shed by the dozens of families who lost someone is not how I define the credibility of these incidents.
However, it is highly suspicious.
As far as pulse goes, the situation is complicated.
Everyone involved was sleep deprived and likely on drugs. This makes judging their emotions more difficult
I still see no tears, though I've only seen 2 interviews.
The testimony given in the interviews is highly suspect on it's own. One person claimed that a guy was shot, and the bullet was stick out of his leg. He made it seem like a bullet was lodged in with the casing intact.
But like I said, this is complicated because we're dealing with homosexual deviants (night club) who are very dishonest and dramatic.
These threads terrify me
James Fetzer (Jim Fetzer) is the leading conspiracy theorist on this subject.
He has done many many podcasts on the subject and co-authored the book "'Nobody Died At Sandy Hook" which is now availble for free as PDF after is was banned on Amazon, the only conspiracy theory book i know off ever getting banned from Amazon.
Fetzer claims he and another person retrieved the document for a major FEMA-drill at the Sandy hook school ONE DAY PRIOR to the alledged massacre. They claim to have retrieved it trough the freedom of information act.
If this is true. Then that is ALL I NEED TO KNOW about Sandy hook.
Like the first edition of the 9/11 commision report saying "The financing of the 9/11 hijackers is practically insignificant".
Is ALL I NEED TO KNOW about 9/11.
>>78835470
>the only conspiracy theory book i know off ever getting banned from Amazon.
lol
One of the strangest things about this topic is how offended people get.
Like we're being disrespectful for not believing people died. It's very similar to the holocaust. Or rape.
Anyone claiming victimization has to be trusted, we just love that narrative too much to question it.
>>78835965
Sure is effective aint it?
Base your false flag around something people will get enraged at anyone having a differing opinion about.
I have met people that become enraged when anyone disputes the Holocaust, yet when asked about the subject they cant say anything more then "Hitler was bad"
>>78834912
kek.
>Any year after 1976
>Believing the media
the way i see it:
1. The killed-wounded ratio is so absurd for an autistic kid. People have this idea that 'children are easy to kill' but you would still have a hard time killing 26 and injuring only 2 or whatever it was.
2. The Robbie Parker interview is weird as fuck
3. In shootings such as Aurora, there is a trail of blood visible on the cement from the helicopter. Even if no one wounded was leaking blood, you would expect it to see some significant amount of blood SOMEWHERE. First responders have been known to have said 'there was no blood' at the scene.
4. The weird people running around in the woods that were arrested but never reported on later.
lastly:
>>78834953
5. The same children can be seen evacuating the school multiple times, but in a different order or perhaps a slightly different group of children
>>78836604
Got any evidence on 4 and 5?
>>78825123
one mother who lost a child has the same name and looks identical to a Veronique Haller Pozner, who herself is a gun control advocate from Switzerland.
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/03/the-curious-parents-of-sandy-hook-child-victim-noah-pozner/
>>78836604
>2. The Robbie Parker interview is weird as fuck
Not to forget the medical examiner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA
>>78836735
guy in woods:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDrhhb0B5f8
>>78836735
Just type in guy in the woods sandyhook. Someone out there has the photos for number 5
>>78837089
It's every interview.
This is a mother and father who just lost their little girl
>she was a ball of fire
>she ruled the roost
>our little CEO
I could understand one family having a weird reaction like this. But all of them smile this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itX1AI8Z-nM
>>78837459
wht does this image represent?
>>78836402
why is 1976 significant?
>>78837839
They realize they can just make another one.
>>78837909
That despite all the cell phone camera, news stations, and news helicopters, these are the only pictures of anyone evacuated from the school. There are zero pictures of any children at any triage/staging areas or the firehouse at the end of the school's driveway that was a rally point.
>>78829639
Paramedics don't haul stiffs.
t. Nurse
>>78838234
And more importantly they had the kids walk by cameras twice
>>78830999
at the time he claims his story happened he is on the parking lot of the sandy hook school you can see him in the videos.
you kids will literally spend hours in any bait thread. Holy fuck lol. Repetitive shit threads no matter how old the bait, you literal niggers will gobble it up.
>>78821142
>look mom, I made the honeypot again
Why don't you get a real job?
>>78838523
who cares?
its not like everything is now invalid only because someone made a thread for guaranteed replies.
>>78838505
Correct
>>78821142
occam's razor. try it.
>>78837839
wow she's really trying to make those tears happen
tru tho every interview is very strange.
reminds me of
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>>78838798
Yea it's totally invalid. They could go on TV and say "haha tricked you" and all you faggots would do is make a thread about it. Or make a shitty YouTube video.
Hell I believe the majority of Americans are skeptical about 9-11 but still, nothing.
Tldr; you are good goy slaves. Shut up and stay manipulated
>>78839290
>sliding through shame
You STILL use that tactic here?
Another grief stricken family at 3:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMEJshK4lEo
>>78838328
Define "stiff"
In America they would have received medical treatment all the way to the hospital.
The paramedics set up a triage area outside the school, yet not a single child or adult was brought out of the school to the area.
We are talking about 26 people. None of them were still breathing or possibly still alive?
Am I supposed to believe a doctor went in the school and pronounced them all dead, in 11 minutes?
>>78828108
It's the exact same picture you fucking mongol.
>>78840338
>stiff
A stiff is slang for a dead body
>>78838642
Please, sandyhook is a more popular conspiracy theory than anything.
It's so well-known I have wondered if the purpose of the event was to spread tinfoil hattery.
>>78839290
Oh shit man you re right!
Lets put together an /pol/ action swat and fight with weapon force against the Illuminati, the evil freemasons and the government!
We have youtube videos to proof everything!
>>78826787
>>78826787
that's a big house. is this how school teachers live in the US?
>>78840581
Thank you smart ass. I understand that much.
What I'm getting at is that mortally wounded and unconscious people are brought to hospitals all the time.
Pic related is a PDF on EMS guidelines for the State in question
Resuscitation must be started on all patients who are found apneic and pulseless UNLESS
>Decapitation
>Decomposition
>Transection of the torso
>Incineration: 90% of body surface
Did Adam Lanza decapitate, incinerate, or chop his victims in half? Were they already decomposing? That's the only reason they wouldn't have performed EMS.
PDF file is here:
http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/ems/pdf/communication_statements/2010_07_Guidelines_for_EMS_Determination_of_Death.pdf
Paramedics don't arrive to a scene and go, "welp, I guess we were too late."
That's not their job. Their job is to perform emergency procedures and get them to the hospital. Doctors will pronounce them dead if there's nothing they can do.
>>78831796
Nothing? I'm interested if people think this is complete retarded.
>>78841969
i think you should kill yourself.
>>78825123
This you retards.
This is why most conspiracy theories fall flat. The more people who would have to be in on it, the less likely something could have been pulled off.
There are far far too many independent parties involved with Sandy Hook for it to have been stages and us not find incriminating evidence against it yet. There have been conspiracies in the past with significantly less people involved that were uncovered almost immediately.
This is why if you believe in shit like Flat Earth Theory, Reptilians, etc. you are retarded. There would have to be millions of people from multiple third parties both private and public across the globe and operating from different international alliances and treaties in on the secret for those things to be true. It is simply not statistically possible.
I know you all want to expose the Eternal Jew but we have to be fucking realistic m8.
>>78842815
Explain the holocaust. That would have taken thousands to pull off.
>>78842815
>There are too many people involved, it must be fake!
The Manhattan project, at its height, employed 130,000 people and zero leaks.
Keeping secrets it turns out is much easier than you think.
>>78837929
Because then it was spelled out clearly for everyone.
This entire thing is confusing, because we have too much evidence, and at the same time, not enough.
For instance,
>>78826548 >>78826932
Shows a possibility of it being a FEMA stunt with crisis actors.
But then,
>>78827398
Shows a possibility of a second shooter, or that Lanza wasn't there.
Finally,
>>78827041
Is the theory that Lanza was there, people did die, but they're trying to cover up sexual misconduct of teachers, psychiatrists, and priests.
I'm not even going to go into the infographics about money being thrown around.
>>78841822
everyone lives above their means here. Everyone is in debt.
>>78825123
To be fair, it's not like the CIA has never messed with a whole town before, including LSDing everyone.
>>78845292
Sauce?
>>78821142
>Redpill me on Sandy Hook.
An autist shot up a school.
>>78843016
The actual holohoax, which is simply the exaggeration of the number for political reasons and to punish Nazi Germany, would have actually only required less than 100 people to be in on it. People like Dwight who "confirmed" the holocaust only saw a small portion of the bodies. People like him would not have to be in on it - only the party involved in actual tallying of the number dead would.
100% holocaust denial is foolish.
>>78843074
The Manhattan project WAS leaked what in the actual fuck are you talking about. Google Klaus Fuchs.
>>78845450
MKUltra, my friend
There's a lot of it on wikileaks, but most of it was destroyed back in the days.
>>78845655
Thanks, seems it went much further than TK
>>78846221
Yeah, it was a huge operation.
It really is a shame they destroyed most of it. All we have nowadays are some files who were mislabeled, and because of that were not destroyed.
this conspiracy scares me
real 1984 shit
>>78825123
>If it did not happen: almost everyone in the town had to be in on the plot. Did the kids leave town? did they not exist? In both cases, lots of neighbors would know. Did the teachers leave town, or did they not exist? In both cases lots of people would know.
The town is/was filled with CIA/FBI employees. Yes the kids and their parents have all left town. They were mostly given cheap/free houses and moved to the town around 2 years before the shooting. Nobody in the town including the local government has ever answered any questions as they are still under gag order.
>What about all the first graders? Were they all in on the plot? How do you get five year olds to learn a script and never say anything?
Have you really never seen a movie with a 5 years old child actor? They can learn scripts and act emotionally.
>Were all the cops and paramedics in on it? were all the hospitals and funeral homes in on it?
Few cops were allowed in the building. The few paramedics allowed near the scene miraculously declared most of the children dead without using triage or attempting to hospitalize them.
Besides all the questions you proposed there still is zero evidence that anybody was shot that day, save for a few apparent blood stains in selected pictures.
>>78845576
>The Manhattan project WAS leaked what in the actual fuck are you talking about. Google Klaus Fuchs.
>one leak of questionable value out of 130,000 employees
Wow, that totally makes my point moot.
>>78846632
Don't worry, m8.
The government will protect you from any harm
:^)
>>78842815
Don't jump to conclusions. Disregard the concept of a "conspiracy-theory". People should have no theory at all unless they have scrutinously researched a given subject.
When looking into Sandy Hook, take the facts presented by main-stream media, then take the facts (FACTS, not their THEORIES) presented by alternative media. You will probably conclude that mainstream media is leaving out important information. Furthermore, you will find that government agencies are actively trying to prevent any disclosure on the matter.
Grow up. This isn't about lizards or a flat earth. This is about mainstream media creating a narrative of their liking and the government doing everything it can to facilitate that narrative.
>>78846701
>there still is zero evidence that anybody was shot that day, save for a few apparent blood stains in selected pictures.
This is how you know a tragedy is fake.
For comparison, here's a pic from the Bataclan massacre. Blood and bodies everywhere.
>>78845576
So it only takes 100 people to fake 6,000,000 gassed jews.
But it takes ??? people to fake 26 killed in a school shooting.
Tell me, how many people would this conspiracy have required?
>>78821142
its because everyone was underage
in usa they dont release shit like that involving minors
>>78821142
>
didnt happen
>>78847528
>in usa they dont release shit like that involving minors
Explain this image from the scene of the Columbine shooting.
There is more graphic content than this.
>>78847876
Also security videos and all.
Even in BR, when a guy did a school shooting, we got vids and shit(even though they were mostly not graphic, just a bunch of kids running)
>>78847528
The principal and a staff member were shot in the hallway. No children were murdered in the hallway.
>>78826109
It's easy to convince 6 years old to believe anything, like the Easter Bunny or Santa.
Not a conspiracy nut and don't believe Sandy Hook conspiracies, but if your argument is based on 6 years old being inquisitive thinkers and hard to convince. Well...
Can't read the whole thread but if it was a conspiracy then why? What's the end goal ?
>>78827333
Took half an hour of bumps for someone to respond, now back to /x/ with you
Essential video on Sandy Hook shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy4zlMkNnn4
>>78847446
Also just to compare Sandy Hook to some of the recent shootings - in both the San Bernardino AND Orlando cases the media was (((somehow))) allowed free reign to go AT WILL into both of the shooters homes and take pictures, look at documents, basically do whatever they wanted poking around the house. In sandy hook no reporter ever got close to the Lanza home nor were there ever any new pictures after the shooting taken of the school, that is, before it was completely demolished to cover up the fact that it was filled with fucking asbestos and not even in use for several years before the shooting.
Go look at RedSilverJ's video about sandy hook on youtube. They removed all the cameras before the shooting and put them back after. Some of the actors were used in other false flags.
He couldnt even carry a rifle and he obviously drugged shit is fake af dont even come here asking these guys for answers go look yourself. But i will say this sandy hook was one of the more obvious false flags too much evidence
>>78848444
Basically no proofs of anything (as in pics, vids and shit), and the relation of many people involved with acting and gun-control movements, before and after the event.
basically, they wan't to hit people's fee fees so they can finally ban guns.
>>78848444
To take our god given right to bear arms away. Ive noticed that recently when our dear leaders have been talking about gun control they only use as examples the sandy hook shooting and the aurora shooting as reasons why we should disarm ourselves. Despite there being hundreds of other shootings, ONLY the two most suspect as being false flags are mentioned. The reason for this being that those two events were mostly likely scripted to trigger maximum fear in people as the narrative of what we are told happened was strictly controlled. To further my point, Obama even recently said that he was "Extremely surprised that Sandy Hook didn't have a bigger effect in encouraging gun control measures", essentially admitting that shooting was the event (((they))) expected the American people to finally cave from.
>>78825123
imo I think the kids actually died but im not sure it was "adam lanza"
>>78849483
What makes you think kids died? Not trying to argue I am just curious.
>>78848584
Good goy, believe everything Anderson Cooper spoon feeds you
>>78821142
>>78821142
>>78821142
>>78821142
>>78821142
This is what I don't get about sandy hook... Would it not be easier for our government to kill a bunch of kids than to stage it? Why go through the effort and risk to fake it when a real shooting is so much easier to perpetrate?
>>78821142
Don't forget the 'suspicious man seen running through the woods' that we never heard anything about again.
>>78850295
Simple. Killing children is illegal.
Lying about it is not.
>>78850295
Maybe they were afraid their shooter could be taken down by some civilian?
idk, i feel like staging would give them a more "controlled" enviroment
I used to be like you OP and was very skeptical, but this article changed my mind to the point where I think AL did the deed, though I still think it's possible the US gov't anonymously convinced him online to take the final steps in one of their sting operations
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/03/17/the-reckoning
The kid had become violent and wanted to act. It is possible he had help in the school, but I am 100 percent sure it did happen
>>78850440
That was me bro shut the fuck up and donate some money to my daughter's charity fund
>>78850806
oh man im so angry,
better shoot some random kids at an elementary school.
>>78850440
>google this shit up
>many references to the guy being an off duty tactical squad police officer from another town, but all links are dead.
Is this what they call a memory hole?
>>78843016
6 gorillion by my count
>>78828937
you're not supposed to preform cpr on bleeding victims
>>78828803
It is damn near impossible because no matter how much you buy or threaten a large group of people, someone always leaks a conspiracy.
True conspiracies can only involve a handful of people, and even then, there's always a great risk of leak. The government taking this huge risk especially with so many people involved seems massively unrealistic. There's a lot of strange details about Sandy Hook, but there's probably not a conspiracy along the lines of what you are thinking.
>>78851933
Great point. I guess there was nothing they could do.
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
>>78821142
This is some of the most retarded shit I've ever seen.
I lived near where this happened. I also personally knew one of the families of one of the surviving students. We had them stay at our house for a couple weeks afterward because they were so terrified. The school was demolished because parents didn't want their children growing up at a mass murder scene where their students classmates were shot to death.
>HE KILLED ALL OF THEM
Yeah, they are fucking kids, its pretty easy to kill a child with a firearm, go fuckin figure.
It is real. It happened. If you are such a retard that you think the US government could stage the murder of 20+ children and get away with it then you shouldn't be spreading your insane opinion to others. Or look up what Occam's Razor means for fucks sake.
>>78853550
>I lived near where this happened.
I'm curious, where did you live? I live in Monroe
>>78853550
Fucking finally. Where have you been all day?
>>78853550
>This is some of the most retarded shit I've ever seen.
>I lived near where this happened. I also personally knew one of the families of one of the surviving students.
Pottery
This is posted in each and every thread about this subject here.
So tell me, how does a school that is allegedly used as a school not only has black mold growing on the walls of a majority of the class rooms but somehow doesnt generate a single maintenance request for five years?
How many large occupancy buildings that you are aware of that are in use can say the same?
>>78853550
>>78853550
>>78853550
I was waiting to update this collage. Do you mind providing some more information?
u scared yet?
>>78852625
I'll just toss my 2 cents in, it was a CIA psyop like the Jonestown massacre.
Hire a death squad, maybe even just one or two assassins to go in and massacre everyone in the school including the "perp", the assassin(s) move out in all the confusion and the rest of the story is spun by a key insider who "survives".
Once the initial story is "leaked" the momentum takes it the rest of the way and becomes very difficult to question or of course, you are a loon!
Of course there was a loon involved one way or another, the only question is of conspiracy. This was how they removed conspiracy from the table of the JFK assassination by making out a lone gunman, one loon when in fact we know for a fact, the world is full of loons who often work alone but sometimes work together in which case you have a conspiracy.
In any case, the US will not be disarmed like other countries and probably for that very reason alone, look what happened in China after they were disarmed. A free thinking population is the best defense against tyrannical loons.
>>78834912
>Alex (((Israel)))
Doesn't the Soto teacher (the one middle one sitting down) look photoshopped into this picture? Something about her gaze seems a little off. I know that I'm reaching a little here.
>>78853550
>I lived there meme
>I knew somebody meme
Btw Columbine is still standing shill
>>78856899
Also if somebody who was at first "in" on the conspiracy would be ineffective at blowing the cover. Nobody would believe that you were in on it just like most people don't believe that the official story is suspicious even though there are tons of inconsistencies.
Thats how they get away with it.
>>78859570
she does look a bit off, but i feel this might just be because of some shitty lighting.
The reason why she seems off is because she's a bit darker than the rest, and it would imply she's on a different place when the pic was taken.
But i just think it is that lamp over her
>>78853550
>The school was demolished because parents didn't want their children growing up at a mass murder scene where their students classmates were shot to death.
Sure.
That must be why every other school shooting also had their schools demolished.
And why the killers in those instances had their houses demolished.
You were too lazy with this psyop.
Our government has killed thousands of children in other countries and gotten away with it.
>>78859940
Plus the people involved have signed nondisclosure agreements.
And NOBODY DIED so they would be ruining their lives exposing nothing.
If people were actually killed that would be tough to keep quiet.
>>78859668
>I lived there meme
>I knew somebody meme
I understand some people may bullshit, but you can't discount everyone. I live about 30 minutes away and think there is some complete bullshit surrounding this fuckery.
>>78860311
And just so you non-believers know, the FBI crime statistics report 0 deaths in the area for the time period.
>>78861060
The deaths fell under the State Police section of the FBI crime stats because it was their jurisdiction and not included in Newtown. Not that it makes me a believer but they're there.
>>78861495
Bump for shits and gargles
>>78861495
Why was virginia tech incident on the table 8 then?
>>78862457
I have no idea, never looked that shooting up. I spent a lot of time on Sandy Hook because that shit fucked my gun rights up
Do you guys think a Sandy Hook general would be a good idea?
Blatantest fucking PsyOps ever
If i am not mistaken guy received a box with something that finally convinced him to murder some kids.
He went to the school, found nobody there and shoot himself.
Most of the actors were people from Europe or Middle East etc with no connections to the country, so thats why it was so easy for them to do that job. Who cares, USA is like another planet anyway.
>>78859668
Who pays these fuckers?
>>78864841
A psyops general would be great.
>>78841894
I was glued to the TV when Sandy Hook was happening. I was running MCI protocols in my head, thinking, "a little weird, but no one can really predict how people will react in these situations". I'm an EMT.
And then, I heard that paramedics declared the dead inside. I figured the news was, as they always do, fuck up something important.
And I waited for a correction.
100% kil rate? 100%? 0% wounded?
they are still inside? they didnt start transport immediately after triage?
this happened just a few minutes ago, but EVERY person involved is all-black on triage, and they're not transporting the bodies? why aren't ambulances leaving? i've done CPR on a dead body for 45minutes en route to the hospital from a rural area.
still no ambulances leaving.
after the incident, I read a report where the incident commanders doubled down. 'paramedics declared dead. . .' PLEASE. if you are 100% cold, and havent had a heartbeat for hours, but still in ONE PIECE, you are considered alive by paramedics.
i'm not a conspiratard but no EMS performs this way. someone took an MCI drill, sprinkled in some real gunfire, and heavy use of Plato's Noble Lie.
>Redpill me
>228 replies
>>78867859
You should also add that victims were kids who usually show more urge to survive even from grave injury because young body wants to live.
Most likely the shooting did not even occurred in the place shown on TV.
