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So it begins fellow spaniards, today we decide how we fuck up or country.

Who you voting?
Who you expect to win?

Lets discuss the options and help the undecided to pick one
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>>78787562
1st for pablo
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Do any of you guys have any of the latest polls? Who's the more likely to win?
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>voting
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>>78788249
PP, right wing party will win.
Podemos, far left wing party will be second
PSOE, socialdemocrats loosers will be third.
Ciudadanos, a liberal party will be forth.
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>>78787562
Regna, Catalunya!

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Honestly, i want another year without goverment
This year was pretty good
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>>78787562
How does an economy function where nobody in the population works? Spain is like a magic man country
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Who is your most /pol/-approved party?
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>>78791545
VOX

But irrelevant
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>>78787562
>be Spain
>have Grrrrrrrl power debates

You just can't make this cuckery up
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Here's what need to be done:

>Kick Catalonia, Madrid, and Andalusia
>Make Castile Great Again
>Castilexit
>Unite Portugal-Castile
>Slaughter toghether all moors, marxists and jews
>Create a Catholic Commonwealth with Iberoamérica
>Colonize Mars

Who #CastilianMissile here?
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>>78791381

Indeed we are

>>78789595

So, Jordi, com va tot per Catalunya? Quan assolireu l'ndependecia? Hi ha hagut alguns avanços?

Sorry for poor catalan
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>>78791857
Same sentiment familia.
And if you try to bring up why the fuck this happens or why the gender violence laws are unfair be sure watch your step, because it's a fucking minefield ready to scream at you why you are sexist.
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Vote for based Podemos lads
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>>78787562
Vote right, seriously you need to stop leftist cancer before it kills you
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>>78792199
Iberoamerica ?

Paint me intrigued.
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>>78794982
>Podemos
>based
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I voted PP yesterday at the embassy
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>>78795725
pa eso no votes
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>>78795867
Shut up dirty Catalajew
My MAdre Patria won't Balkanize
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>>78794982
Scottish much?
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>>78795954
just try to not get murdered, manolo
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>>78796013
Nope. SNP aren't progressive.
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>>78795499
Stay mad
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>>78787562

>voting

All the candidates are cunts.

Voting for PP means voting for corruption, zero progress and going back to brick-based economy.

Voting for PSOE means voting for corruption, the less inteligent candidate and some SJW bullshit.

Voting for Podemos means voting for full SJW bullshit, fairy-tale economic plan and 4 years of buttblasted raging PPeros (ok, this last thing would be nice).

Voting for C's means voting for a guy that seems to change his ideas every week. Still seems the best option but he's not going to win anyways so it's probably the same as voting PP.
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>>78792199
>>Unite Portugal-Castile
Nope
But you can try again lad
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>>78791857

>ywn have a threesome with Ines and Andrea
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>>78796516
Levy's blue eyes looking tenderly at you while sucking cock must be priceless
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>>78787562
Going to say the same as last thread: best possible result is that the election fails again, none of the options are good. Best option is to wait for the moment.

Also remember that despair is a mortal sin and that nobody likes defeatists. Things won't stay this way for long.
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>>78789102
>loosers
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>>78796752
>>78796516
>La peixetera del parlament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgWPbW7SB1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_4eKxo-iI

picrelated, andrea durmiendo en el parlament
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>>78787562
the eternal communist will vote left, like the liberal faggots you all are. Yes I said it Sancho, what are you going to do about it? Set up a collectivist think tank where you can grow oranges and tomatoes?
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>>78787562
Updated Podemos from last thread.

>PSOE
-Pro EU.
-left
-Pro SJW laws
-Did a big ERE scam some time ago.
-Former important president owns a big company.
-Current leader can't do shit because of said former president being an evil puppetmaster.
PP
-Pro EU.
-center-"""right"""
-Cronyism supported by their laws has created in Spain levels of inequality comparable to any 3rd world shithole.
-Have had so many cases of corruption it isn't even funny. They're proud of it.
-Former important president owns a big company.
-Current leader can't do shit because of said former president cucking his shit up.
+Most likely to win because they always have the same number of voters no matter what.
>Podemos
-Commies
+anti EU
+-Grew moderate (about EUroscepticism) with time but may lose their shit eventually and say fuck you to EU
-SJW: the party.
+-They'll either become Trudeau-tier or be forced to make a deal with another party, then simply resist EU and remove corruption, which COULD be great.
>C's
+started as /pol/: the party
+Seriously, literally started as the best option.
-Became moderate pro EU
-Criticism towards the Trump
-It's clear they want to blanda in with the big parties.
-Corps: the party
>Vox
-Literrally who?
>a plant pot
-No laws will be made
-Not against EU regulations
+Not pro EU
+No laws will be made
+Never said anything bad about Trump
+Would support Brexit if it could
+Still a better option than all of the former parties
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>>78797091

How does that affect the fact that i'd like her to be eating Ines pussy while I fuck her from behind?

Now, seriously. Andrea is kinda dumb and I haven't heard a lot from Ines but she seems just like Albert. Not like you can't expect anything from politicians, spanish ones in particular, anyway.
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>>78796372
Damn that's humiliating
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>>78797431
>started as /pol/: the party
And continued as Banc Sabadell: the party
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>>78796856
I think the same way
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>>78796856
Agree. Still voting for ciudadanos though.
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>>78797451
well, I would probably hatefuck them too, but whatever
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Aun no he ido a votar. a quien voto?
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>>78792199
>Castile.
>literally worst Spain.
Any other region>Castile
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>>78796372
Ok, ok I forgot the "relevancy sense" of Portugal. Nevermind that point bro.
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>>78797475
Defensive wars lad
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>>78798025

>Only center-right qts are with ugly pro-independent catacucks
>the rest are all leftwing retards

just kill me in my sleep alredy senpai.

Anyways, I would also motorboard the tits of Tania Sancheze, no wonder Pablemos fucked this whore.
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>>78792199

>Catalonia

Just need a brutal purge of all leftists and it will be good agian.

>madrid

Seem like a rich provance, why would you want to remove it?

>andalusia

has served well as the front line solders in the spanish army for centuries, you just need more wars.

Infact round up the jobless andalusians to go kill the leftist catalonians.
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>>78798090

Official Spanish Regions Rankings:

1. Basque Country
2. Galicia
3. The rest of the North but Cantabria and Catalonia
4. Balear Islands
5. Cantabria
6. Catalonia
7. Castile
8. Madrid
9. Canarias
10. Extremadura
11. Valencia
12. Andalucia
13. Murcia
14. Ceuta and Melilla

Am I missing sth?
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>>78798336
This is in fact a good idea
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>>78798421
Murcia is not Spain mate
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>>78798421

Galicia is a poor shithole. Change Galicia for Navarra. Also Castille and Leon is based, while Castilla la Mancha is a hellhole, so Castilla y Leon should be third.

The rest of the country can go fuck itself desu.
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>>78798515
>Use a leftist region to kill the leftist
>Good idea
pick one.
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>>78798090
>Castile
>Higher IQ
>Best Universities
>One of the biggest Empires in the History
>Most racially pure Iberian people
>Chosen by God

>>78798336
>Just need a brutal purge of all leftists and it will be good agian.
You dont understand. Catalonia needs to get the fuck out already. They only care about "la pela" (money), they're literally always holding us back.

>>madrid
>Seem like a rich provance, why would you want to remove it?
Literally our London.

>>78798421
>>Basque Country
Agree. They're honorary Castilians though.
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>>78798421
I'm from Canarias and I would set them lower bh. I haven't been to extremadura so I don't really know.
>>78798596
Also this.
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>>78798691

If history is anything to go by Andalusians will murder anyone for money.
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Greetings, my brothers. We have witnessed amazing things these past days. As followers of Kek, you probably are deeply pleased with the outcome of the Brexit, but kek needs a sacrifice to the cause, a sacrifice to give the final kick to the EU and make the efforts of the bongs not be in vain. I believe hat we are suitable to fill that role
Lets crash this union with no survivors, in the name of all western nations
Praise kek
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>>78798691
>Implying Andalusia is leftist and is not voting PZOE because muh PER and muh paguitas

Mate, I'm from Andalusia and believe, if it wasn't because of the clientelist network here, that fucking fat pig Gusana Díaz wouldn't be in charge.
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>>78798062
UP, es la opción que más joderá a más gente, aunque TODAS sean apoteósicamente HORRIBLES
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>>78798775

letting go of clay is what has made spain shit.

Make spain an empire again!
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>>78798880
N I C E
I
C
E

Thought (and did) the exact same.
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>>78798880
>xuníos podemos
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>>78794982
hahahahaha cuck 0/10
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>>78798775
>Not knowing that pure Iberians were described as having bull-like dark skin by the Greeks
If Atlanteans didn't enrich us back then we would still be living in mud hutts.

Also León is based, but La Mancha is literally a stain.
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>>78798894
I am Andalusian too....
>>78798841
kek. No fucking way. I dont wanna purge this fucking country.
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>>78798925
>literally the opposite of what is true
"Spain" is a judeomasonic invention imposed by liberals in the 19th century.

Monarchia Hispanica >>>>> "AssPain"

>>78799221
>Also León is based, but La Mancha is literally a stain.
Well I include León in Castile. La Macha is great, stfu.
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What are your thoughts on The Rock lads? They're kinda fucked if the borders close.
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>>78795492
Iberoamérica is how we call Latin America here (América latina, too)
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>>78798421
>10.Extremadura
Still better than Andalucia tho.
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>>78798663

Navarra is included in the rest of the North (Navarra, Aragon, La Rioja and Asturias).

Galicia is cool because galicians are funny.
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Off to the polling station to vote for Venezuela, amigos!
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>>78798880
Asturias... Tú no, por favor...
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>>78792609
Indeed, Spanish women are paradoxical as fuck.

Tell my girlfriend she drives bad, she freaks out and crashes.

Loves that I always open doors for her, yet insists on being the big spoon. Even okay that I treat her like my property. Shits all fucked up...
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>>78799396

what do you mean, catalonia has been part of spain for centuries
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>>78799410
I don't really give a fuck about them, and I doubt anyone does desu.
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>>78798663
>Galicia is a poor shithole
I wouldn't have it any other way eternal Kraut. I enjoy my peaceful life.
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>>78798894
I'm also from Andalucia (now living in Madrid) and I can attest for that. My childhood friends (now unemployed and in the utmost misery because "construction is the shit m8 why would you want to study") are voting PSOE/Podemos just because "they will grant / extend more subsidies, while taking it from the RICH, flawless plan huh?"

Sometimes I wish I could bomb that piece of soil and all the roaches that inhabit it. Best place for the summer, tho.
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Again?
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>>78799410

The Rock is a great source of keks and memes.
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>>78799971
Every time.
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Vote for Democracia Nacional lads

or Vox
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>>78800046
Whats new? Nothings new.
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>>78799795

Gibraltar is on your flag, it's an embarrassment not to take it back
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>>78798663
>Galicia is a poor shithole.

I'll fuck your shit up Ahmed.
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My vote is for Euskal Herria Bildu. Our country shall rise and we don't care if oligophrenic spaniards want to destroy THEIR country.
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>>78800274
We most likely will now that Brexit has happened, so nothing to worry about really.
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>all this Castellians mad at Madrid
You aren't true castellanos, just cucked pseudo-vascos who think anything other than Burgos, Madrid and Toledo should be Castilla.
Wake up, you absolute fucking retards.
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>>78800302
I´m ordering some octopus now, fuck you for reminding me how hungry I am.
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>>78798421
>1st
>not Aragon

Illiterate detected!
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>>78789595
Kill yourself, communist traitor

>>78796752
>Levy
Which one is it? 3 out of the 4 look Jewish
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>>78799396
France kicked our asses because of keks like you who kept the country in the middle ages until 1714.
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>>78800274
>Gibraltar is on your flag
No it's not, what the fuck?
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>>78800351

Yeah, sure, Margallo is already working on it!

>>78800524

I gave you shared 3rd place, don't cry.
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>>78800060
Nice meme
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>>78800311
>Voting for literal terrorists
You should get shot
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>>78800302
Disgusting
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>>78800619

The two pillars on the flag represent the pillars of hercules.

the rock of gibraltar and Monte Hacho in Ceuta
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>be 22
>Podemos or Pp will win
>tfw no gf

Should I kill myself soon?
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>>78800860

We will either strangle gibraltar economy until they come back, or gain co-sovereignity with the UK because of brexit.
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>>78787562
Where the fuck are the Chupa-chups
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>>78800926

Si
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Im Italian, living in Spain.
Your right wing parties are weak if not corrupt.
Your left wing parties are an exalted meme.

You are fucked either way, and I feel bad for this country because I like it.
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>>78800003

Vote carefully lads
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>>78800784
>Crying like a baby because of ETA victims
>Tells any person that fells abertzale that is a terrorist and wants to feel like them.
Nice, sandnigger. You are definately retarded.
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>>78800853
Confirmed shit taste. Didn't expect less from a filthy gipsy.
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>>78801125

You fucked up it's over for you, asshole.
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>>78800853

I fuck hungarian whores and hookers almost weekly. The one that are not completely broken because of drugs end up falling in love with me. I always tell them to fuck off.
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>>78800860
No, those don't represent Gibraltar, it represents the "estrecho", which is STILL ours. You seem to forget they only have a fucking rock, not the Southernest point of the Peninsula.
See that little dick slightly to the right? That's UK's Gibraltar, the Sourthernest point, which is the one represented in the flag, is OURS.
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>>78799905
I live here and I have to love some places and people, but man, this is a fucking wasteland of bigotry towards la virgen, flamenquito, canis, gitanos and shit that I can barely stand.

Nuke us already.
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I don't want to live in a country where the most voted party is also the most corrupted, the worst part is they're voters know that and don't fucking care. We live in a country where the goverment can lie in our faces and get on because they know millions of brainwashed faggots will continue voting them again, again and again till they fucking die.
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>>78801449

Emigrate to the UK

Oh wait
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PODEMOS BOYS

Let's crash this union with no survivors.
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>>78801449
Hey, its like you described both our countries at once
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>>78800860
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Spain
They represent the Strait of Gibraltar, not A FUCKING ROCK.

Also, take a pic of this general´s waifu.
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>>78801312

the pillars are a representation from ancient times because the sailors could see the two mountains on both sides of them.

I understand it's not the southernmost point but this was something from before satellites.
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>>78801507

UNIDOS PODEMOS
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¡Viva Unidos Podemos!
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>>78801507
>He fell for the podemos is anti-EU meme
Anyway all communists should be shot
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>>78801641
>the pillars are a representation from ancient times because the sailors could see the two mountains on both sides of them.
No, they represent the strait, check>>78801595
not the rocks. And now, it's not just the rock that sailors saw, they saw everything, ever been to Cádiz? You can see África, ever been to Marruecos? you can see Cádiz, no just a ROCK.
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>>78800593
Good goy.
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>>78801681
>Pablo
>wearing a relatively formal suit
Yeah no I'd know from the beginning it was a dream
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>>78792199
Madrid es Castilla Reeeee
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>>78801595
>>78801878
>Spaniards in charge of not being ignorants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillars_of_Hercules
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>>78796314
Exactly, but In my opinion PP offers the best possible option out of them all. That's why I voted for them now and the last elections.
Maybe we will get something better in the future, although it probably wont happen.
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>>78801878

Stop making excuses get in there and wipe those filthy anglos from Iberia! vamos!
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>>78798168

shit makes me want to play EU IV,
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>>78801954
I agree. But the capital moves back to Toledo.
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>be universitario
>no gf

Planeando suicidarme lanzandome de una 9° planta pronto por no tener novia! Deseadme suerte!!
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>>78802030
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Gibraltar

Please, educate me about the pillars, but read this if you get bored.
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>>78801954
>taking algarve away from us

Algarve isn't like Andalusia you fucking retard, we actually conquered it, it's 100% Portuguese now, not 50% gypsy like Andalusia.

Pic related, "Spain" is going to split into a thousand pieces.
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>>78802118
A wall is what we need, to stop those tax evaders, the UK can keep them.
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>>78802314
feliz caida
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>>78802030
You are failing to understand that both pillars are a reference to the strait, not the rock. The peñón is definitely a part of the tradition, but the actual meaning of the columns is the estrecho; the connection between Europe and Africa, not a Goddamn rock.
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ID color decides my vote.
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>>78802386
>España en 1230
I thought Portuguese could read Spanish.
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>>78802386
>Portugal in charge of interpreting maps
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>>78802386
Hey, Portugal, if you don't consider youself Spanish, why you still talk about the "Reconquista" and not just the "Conquista"?

>>78802681
Holy shit, yes you fucking retard, but the Pillars themselves are literally Gibraltar and Monte Acho, the burger was right and you weren't.
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>>78802386
>t. Alberto Barbosa
Still, each piece is better then poortugal
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>>78802843
>>78802843
Sorry, we don't have Arabic classes here, can't read your shitty language.
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>>78802196
Toledo cannot grow as much as Madrid due geography. Madrid is a perfect capital due to its location and geographical surroundings. In the last century its population tripled and it was sustainable due its geopgraphy. I dont know why you people hate us.
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>>78802683
PODEMOS
O
D
E
M
O
S
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>>78802683
gg comrade
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>>78787562
Wasn't there a general election recently in Espana?
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>>78792199
>kick Madrid and Cataluña
>but keep the reference to the Habsburgs in the coat of arms
Lel, wow, just... like, hehehehe
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So tell me, Spain, which one of these parties you're voting has the ability to save you?
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>>78802683
So podemos then
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>>78802386
Do you realise that Madrid alone is wealthier than Portugal?
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>>78788407
well, at least you choose your own poison
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>>78802907
>Hey, Portugal, if you don't consider youself Spanish, why you still talk about the "Reconquista" and not just the "Conquista"?

WUT? are you retarded ? you do know that we were way faster than you during the Reconquista right ? we took like 100 years to finish ours, you took several times that.
And you fucking cheated, Andalusia is filled with moors and gypsies, unlike Algarve
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>>78802974
yep, and there will be another 6 months from now
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>>78802949
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>>78802918
Doesn't sound like an argument to me
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>>78791545
No /pol/ party here, sadly.

Even the most far-right is catholic and stupid as fuck.

Well, there are some national-socialist alternatives, but they get like ....1000 votes or so.
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>>78803110
Kek you are dumb Alberto.
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>>78803110

>poortugal doesn't have gypsies
>what's a Penaldo
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>>78803196
>catholic
Nothing wrong with this
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>>78803040
It's not my fault the hash trade with Morocco is so profitable these days.
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>>78803004
Save us? Who said anything about voting to save us?
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>>78787562
VOX AND C´s
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>>78802432

>tfw more a spanish nationalist then the spanish living in spain
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>>78798421
I aprove this.

Just a puntualization: The north of Castille is absolutely based, and still the north. I was there this year, and gladly surprised.
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>>78802907
>Holy shit, yes you fucking retard, but the Pillars themselves are literally Gibraltar and Monte Acho, the burger was right and you weren't.
First, nobody evens knows for sure if its Monte Acho, second, the meaning of both pillars is, again, the estrecho. The reason both pillars are in the coat of arms is not because the rock is actually important, but because of the connection of Spain and Africa.
Then again, what the amerifriend claimed is that since there's a reference to the rock inside a greater meaning of an icon, it should be Spanish, which is in itself wrong.
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>>78789102
>PP, right wing party
lol
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>>78791545
C's was in the past election. Now is just another cuck shit like the others
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>>78802951
But the capital doesn't need to be big. That a jewish meme. The smaller the better. See Washington DC.

Toledo > Madrid.

>>78802991
What's the reference to Hasburgs in that coat, and why shouldn't be one anyways?

>>78803110
I mean Spain was conquered in 711, Portugal wasn't even a dream. From your point of view it wasn't Reconquista but Conquista.
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>>78803176
>Hoping for arguments in a Mongolian carpet board

Spanish balkanisation isn't good for Portugal, you wouldn't get to have the buffer zone that is a united Spain, anyone could do anything
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>>78803287
What's your point ? that he's tanned ?
I'm not saying we don't have gypsies, I'm saying Andalusia is filled with gypsies and moors.

>>78803209
>>78803132

let me redirect you to >>78803176
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>>78800853
>Disgusting

If you have eat that and you consider it digusting, you literally have no soul.
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>>78803294
>Madrid
>Morocco
We dont share a border with Portugal. Madrid is in the middle of the Peninsula alberto
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>>78803302

Oh, you think Spain has some kind of future thats not shitty?
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>>78803373
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd love another global Spain, but the people living in Gibraltar are undeniable scum, there's literally nothing worse in the world than Andalucian Brits.
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>>78797431
>A FUCKING SEAGULL
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>>78803410
Omg you're dumb. By "Spain" you mean Asturias, right ? Let me remind you that the "nation of Spain" is a modern concept made up by Castille to cuck the rest of "Spain".

So wtf you u mean by
>I mean Spain was conquered in 711
???
Spain didn't even exist at that time, 711/713 was the year when Asturias was founded, not Spain.
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>>78803410
>But the capital doesn't need to be big.
Yes,as the president lives there. Habing the capital in a place close to an international airport is fundamental for international relationships. We would have to build a fucking airport in Toledo,to make that project reliable.
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>>78803292
>catholic
>Nothing wrong with this
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>>78803525

They will run to the UK once the border is closed.
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>>78801954
Andalusia is Castille too, dumb fucks. The Kingdom of Seville and the Kingdom of Granada were and is castillian soil.
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>>78803499
No, that's what I'm voting for!
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It's time.
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>>78803670
>what is regnum hispaniae
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>>78803468
I know you fucking retard. Moscow was also in the middle of the continent but it was still an important trading post. I'm not saying you trade directly with them, you simply carry the hash a few km forward and the money back to your shithole.
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>>78803410
>What's the reference to Habsburgs in that coat
The crown over one of the pillars, I cannot remember which one; more precisely, a reference to the HRE.
>and why shouldn't be one anyways?
Because they had the world on their hands and fucked up big time. And not just that, but Spain has nothing to do with the HRE.
And to your other argument: yes, a capital doesn't need to be big, but the capital of a new Castilla should either be Burgos or a new candidate. Madrid should get bigger a stronger.
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>>78803773

Oh, you want to see the plane crash?
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>>78803670
>711/713
Nope. Asturias was founded after this battle,before that the whole peninsula was under the kingdom of Toledo
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Voted Podemos and Podemos-PACMA-PCE for senate.
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>>78802314
>Planeando suicidarme
>por no tener novia

Having it hard to have a stable relationship these days, even when searching for it, proves you are doing something right.
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como hay gente tan retrasada de votar a podemos
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>>78803433
Most of the gypsies in Andalusia and Castille are portuguese you fuckface. Shut up.
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>>78803774

No, you want to re-conquer venezuela not become venezuela.
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>>78803756
>Kingdom of Granada were and is a castillian colony full with gypsies
Andalucia is its own nation m8.
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>>78803690
>They will run to the UK once the border is closed.
If only that were to actually happen. The border was closed with Franco, and while that helped, they didn't leave, they just couldn't be subhumans.
Also, if you are so big into Spanish nationalism, you'd have to see how hypocritical it is that you aren't giving us California, Florida, Navada, Texas and Nuevo México.
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>>78803670
?
You don't learn history in school. Spania was the Hispanic-Visigothic kingdom, who's capital was in Toledo, and it was essentially the entire peninsula. It was conquered in 711, last king being don Rodrigo.

Don Pelayo, his succesor, started the Reconquista in Asturias, in the year 729. That's what is called the Reconquista, Barbossa. Hispania > Spania > Espana.

>>78803814
Well yes. We should remove the imperial crown, good point.

>Madrid should get bigger a stronger.
Why? Madrid is the eternal Anti-España.
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>>78803783
It's a retarded term used between 1000 and 1100 by the faggots of Castille and León to try and claim that they owned Iberia.

Now, what's your argument ?
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>>78800853
Que carallo dixeches da miña Jalisia ti, media merda? Direiche que gradueime con honores nos mariscadores de Rianxiño, e teño estado relacionado con multiples asaltos secretos contra os putos ilejales jodendo pulpos polas pedras, e teño mais de 300 pauasos confirmados neses fillos de puta. Estou entrenado en manejo de fousiño e son o máximo exemplar de todos os forestadores do Barbanza. Ti para min non eres mais que outro toxo. Arrancareiche de raís cunha precisión que aínda nunca se veu nesta comarca, que che quede claro. Ti pensas que ser un comemerdas en Internet che vai saír jratis? Pensato ben cabrón. Ahora mesmo estoulle pedindo a contraseña de wifi ó camarero, e penso avisar a meu tío Fransisco pra que traia o todoterreno. Así que preparata pra a tormenta, fulano. A tormenta de ostias que che vai deixar a cara coma a suela dun sapato. Estás morto, neno. Podo estar en todos lados, a calquer hora a partir de que volvamos do mar, e podo escarallarche vivo en mais de setesentas maneiras. E eso e só usando o sacho que levo no maletero. Non solo eso, teño á miña disposisión todos os tipos da cofradía que están aquí a tomar o vermú, e penso avisalos a todos pra que che abran a cabesa. Se ten solo soubeses o que fasías cando merdaposteaches sobre Jalisia, ó mellor habías estar calado. Pero non o podías saber, non o fixeches, e ahora vas pajar o pato. Me cajo en dios que non che vai conoser nin túa nai. Estás morto, rapás.
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>>78803756
No. Andalucía is a fabrication that should have NEVER been Castellana.
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>>78803670
>nation of Spain" is a modern concept
My sides. What is Totius Hispaniae? Are you a retard? Even the christiand kingdom called themselves Kingdom of Spain in the 12th. Portugal too. You are an ignorant fuck.

Btw nobody gives a fuck about you here.
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>>78803861
>Kingdom of Toledo was formed in 1085
>it controlled Iberia before 718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Toledo
Yeah totally spainroach.
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I'm going to vote for Ciudadanos cause I personally think it's the most moderate/center one.

Also anti-sjw and anti-illegal immigrants.

Am I in the wrong voting for them?
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>Podemos' leader

How can someone so ugly make it in politics?
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>>78803937
Do you have anything to prove that ? I know you don't cuz it's a fucking lie.
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>>78803905
A quien votas tu iluminado?
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>>78804041
>Why? Madrid is the eternal Anti-España.
WHAT?
We are the biggest contributors to Spain staying alive and have been since late 1500s. Yes, people have been forgetting how much Madrid is Castilla, but I cannot possibly understand what went through your mind to say that.
And we should have a completely different coat of arms and flag, not that anachronic atrocity you posted. Hell, even Carlos III's flag was better for today's Castilla.
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>>78803992

the british had a functioning naval base back then. The naval base has been reduced to 6% of the GDP while tourism and selling cheaper good to the spanish is what support everyone there.

The EU lulled them into being more dependent on spain, a sudden shutting off of the border will be catastrophic.
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>>78804041
get your facts straight, >>78804224
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>>78804127
You are an asshole. Is like you are the moor here defending them in the peninsule. Im tired of people that doesnt know shit of history and keep talking bullshit.
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>>78798827
my fella canario. which island? GC here.

and I agree: I love many things of this place but it's generally a fucking shithole tbqh
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Daily reminder Franco a shit
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>>78804311
hmmm...
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>>78803799
Alberto calm down. Madrid is the forth biggest economic hub in Europe while Portugal is rulled by a curry president
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>>78804224
Read a book.
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reino_visigodo_de_Toledo
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>>78804224
That's the other "Reino de Toledo", named after the first one, faggot.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reino_visigodo_de_Toledo

>>78804311
>Madrid
>Not the birthplace of centralism, liberalism and revolutionary ideas in general
>Not smug fucks who calls the rest provincianos
>Not the cause of Catalonian hate for Spain

I mean I like Madrid buuuut....
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>>78804224
The Castilians, Aragonese, and Portugese created a whole bunch of silly little kingdom titles as they moved south/east.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Valencia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Algarve
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>>78804342
Yes, they are completely dependent on an open border, that doesn't mean they'd leave, they would just have mommy UK feed them what Spain wouldn't.
I truly hope the borders close and not traffic is ever allowed, not even for supplies.
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>>78804045
> A perfectly legitimate term to describe the kingdom that spanned all of Hispania = muh social construct
> Moortugal, a "kingdom" made up by co-opting the name of some podunk county = not a social construct

Moortuguese logic
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>>78804073
HAHAHAHA

Never seen that, Did you do it yourself?
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>>78804472
>curry president
Don't be jelly cuz you didn't have any colonies in India.

ty for that pic, nice to see moor to moor friendship
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>>78789102
Is there no falangist party?
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As long as they keep cucking catolans and by extension the SNP I don't care. Good luck Spainbros
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>>78803905
They are hoping that Podemos winning will somehow trigger a glorious civil war or something and that it will turn the clock back to several decades ago.

Or they think for some reason they are anti-EU and will get us out somehow, nevermind the fact that leaving the EU is pointless if we become even more degenerate and open borders in the process.

What will probably happen is that we will simply become even more cucked for a bit (though we don't really have money for gibs, unlike Sweden for example) while the EU keeps deteriorating around us.
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>>78801815
thousand times this.

VOX is the closest we have to anti-EU
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>>78804073
KEK
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>>78804589
nope, I copypasted from someone in last thread. It's pretty good.
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>>78804363
>You are an asshole
This is not an argument.
>Is like you are the moor here defending them in the peninsule.
No, I just I'm not stupid to not realize that Andalucía should have been a different entity to Castilla.
>m tired of people that doesnt know shit of history and keep talking bullshit.
You are the one who doesn't know jack.
After 1200, the conquering of the peninsula stopped because people didn't see you as part of their kingdom. I'm not using any namecalling, I'm just stating that Andalucía has no place in Castilla.
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>>78803988

t. Buttmad andalusian moor
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>>78804224
>Putting another kingdom with the same name that came later
>Claims to be the only one
>Look at me guys I am a retard
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigothic_Kingdom
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>>78804496
You're talking about something different then. This guys didn't control the current are of Portugal it seems https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reino_Visig%C3%B3tico
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>>78798827
>>78804383
Canarios en /pol/ what is this sorcery
Are you guys actual Canarians? im from poland living here and its strange to imagine right wing canarios speaking English and being on pol too
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>>78804507
>>78804755

look a this >>> >>78804775
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>>78804775
I can almost hear the rat-a-tat of your little brown fingers as you desperately wiki information that is beyond your ken
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>>78787562
I never, ever think of Spain. Is it worth vacationing in if poor?
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>>78804602
>Don't be jelly cuz you didn't have any colonies in India.
We did,when we annexed you.
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>>78804842
I guess it's fucking uncommon, but here we are, bros.
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>>78804648
Podemos.
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>>78804842
Don't trust them, they're probably British retirees trying to ruse us
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>>78804554
>le strawman fallacy

very nice spainrat
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>>78804979
t-trust me, my dear friend.
>>78804842
how is poland, btw. aquí estamos con calima de nuevo.
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>>78804924
Pretty expensive for Canadians to fly there. For Brits it's a lower class paradise. I'd avoid it because of that.
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>>78804978
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>>78804648
The true falangist party barely get's any votes. PP represents the catholic conservadurism and get's most of the falangist votes anyways.
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>>78804422
You don't actually believe this WON'T be a common sight in ALL of Spain, right? This isn't just Madrid.
>Not the birthplace of centralism, liberalism and revolutionary ideas in general
Literally WHAT? The birthplace of centralism was the arrival of the Borbones, not Madrid, what the actual fuck? Don't you remember how Madrid had to be completely remodeled by Carlos III because of how little the Habsburgs had looked after it?
>Not smug fucks who calls the rest provincianos
This is actually your problem with comparing Madrid to Satan for centuries; you reap what you saw.
>Not the cause of Catalonian hate for Spain
Again, not a clue of history. The hate of Spain from Cataluña precedes Madrid as a country power. There had been revolts well before Madrid could even do anything to "damage" Cataluña. It was, agian, the BORBONES the ones that decided to fuck the periferias up by centralising evetyhing, and even still, they forgot about developing and looking after Spain, see Carlos III again, "el mejor alcalde de Madrid".
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>>78804924
yes, you have a lot of options.
Cheap chiringuito and playa in the mediterranean
or cheap casa rural and monte in the NorthWest are the best ones
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>>78804901
I'm fighting against like 5 of you fags, all of you referring to different historical times centuries apart. You expect anyone to know all this shit ?
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>>78805103
Not to mention relaxing cup of café con leche
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>>78804755
Proof that Castilianboos are the cancer of Iberia. They literally don't get along with anyone
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>>78804850
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reino_visigodo_de_Toledo
It was called the kingdom of Toledo yoy dumb fuck. The Visigothic adjective came later to differientate them.
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>>78804924
>>78805066

Anyways, you guys always go to the worst shitholes of Spain, like canarias, the east coast or Salou.

Why do you do that? You are on /pol/, I would expect you to like traditional life, beautiful landscapes and such. Why do you go on vacation to those deserts of degeneration?
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>>78804944
You tried 3 times but you never annexed us spainrait, we did have the same king for a few decades, but we were still different countries.
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>>78801681
>bullfights
>good
this is why right wing sucks too
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>>78805303
>what is irony
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>>78805231
I've never been prefer holidaying in non shitholes surrounded by my nations poor and destitute
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>>78805229
And we live in the present when we know of both of this kingdoms existing, and you used the designation usually used for the last one, so I thought you were talking about the last one.
It's your fault for not being clear.
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>>78804775
>literally shows the wikipedia article
>links to a butthurt portugues wiki using maps no later than 6th century but that literally says the same

Here from your own portugues wiki
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:Iberia_586-pt.svg

"Iberia" in 586
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Why a venezuelan party is on second place? Are you stupids?
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>>78805253
>you never annexed us spainrait
Are you sure Alberto?
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>>78804073

9/10

Not 10/10 because of no use of 'carallo'.
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>>78805231
Because beach = vacation to a lot of people.
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>>78804252
Because leftist love ugly people. When they see a good looking person they think about him having money and being right wing.
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Guys, guys, ignore the Portutroll.

>>78805080
WTH? Not anymore. True Catholics will vote VOX.

>Back in track
http://www.elmundo.es/grafico/espana/2015/10/15/561fe19422601dd7728b45ef.html

Almost no changes.
The PSOE is leaking votes again to C's and Podemos.

http://www.elmundo.es/grafico/espana/2015/10/15/561fe19422601dd7728b45ef.html

You can make your own coalitions in that page. It's kinda funny.
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