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Why did the EU kill itself over Muslims?
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Serious question /pol? Knowing that it is costing them the European Union they have worked for half a century to force into existence, why do you think these leaders are seriously letting all these refugees from the Muslim world in their midst?

I don't think they care that much about political correctness whatever their useful idiots say, and if they did it for cheap labor, it seems like they've really miscalculated. Is there a deeper motive? Chaos to cover the financial insolvency?
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Due to the absolutely retarded people I've seen in my country, in university and elsewhere. It does not surprise me in the least to see that even our leaders quite frankly are, retarded as well.
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>>78787022
They are voters and taxpayers. And they are used to replace us
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>>78787022
They got cocky, they failed to factor in what percentage of people were thinking independently to they way the progressive news were contextualising every story.
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>>78787429

They're neither.

They aren't going to vote for the parties that let them in, once they figure out they might as well start their own parties and they aren't going to pay any taxes because they're all on the dole.
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>>78787022
The European Union ALWAYS was about mongrelizing Europe

the creators admire a japanese-jew that wanted a mulatto europe
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>>78787022
i'll take jews for 200
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>>78787022
Germany and France have absolutely no choice. It's Muslims or those 2 countries cease to exist.

Check out their demographics problems. Lots of nice videos explaining it on youtube. Basically 16 million men and women between 20 and 35 in germany who will have 1.5 children and this is no where near enough to support their population of 80 million.
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>>78788068
>if a countries population isn't constantly increasing they will cease to exist

idiot
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>>78788220
What happens to a country when it's population goes from 80 million to 12 million? Idiot.
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> and if they did it for cheap labor, it seems like they've really miscalculated

More to the point, they could have had cheap labour with Chinese/Slavic immigrants. They would actually work, rather than collect benefits, and be less likely to engage in crime. And besides, given the unemployment rates in the Eurozone I doubt more workers is what they wanted.

I think they just panicked, made the wrong decision but, once they made it, decided to go balls deep rather than apologise to the voters and fix it. Democracy does not reward admitting your mistakes.
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>>78788303
because there's no possible way to avoid that, NONE!
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>>78788220
Also you are displaying that you don't have the ability to distinguish between someone explaining something and advocating for it.

You are underage or low IQ. Let's hope it's the first one.
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>>78788393
Okay explain how 16 million germans who have 1.5 children can breed 80 million replacements in one generation.

16 million means 8 million couples. You need each and every couple to have 10 children.

What is your policy? Don't embarrass yourself now.
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>>78787022
Do you think they care about Europe
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>>78788438
>i was just explaining other peoples stupid opinions, not mine!

fuckin lol
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>>78788663
It's not opinion. This is their policy.

1.5 million refugees in a single year didn't enter germany by accident.
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>>78787254
It's this. Truth is there was never an evil master plan that stuff is science fiction. The leaders are simply egotistical retards of the highest degree.
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>>78788663
Also explain how 8 million couples can make 80 million children. Hurry up now.
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>>78788657
Fucking jews.
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>>78788779
you don't need to replace the entire population you fuckin faggot, letting countries decrease population isn't the end of the country. all they would need to do is give incentives for having larger families, and lol at all your butthurt replies you're an idiot deal with it
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>>78787022
Because the EU is staffed by unelected socialist Jews, and ethno-genocide and the destruction of the Christian heartlands was always their agenda.

You all act like this is the first time in history Muslims have flooded into Europe at the behest of Jews. Crack a history book. They've done this many times.
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>>78787022
Jews
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It's all part of our plan for glorious Europe:
* destroy middle-class middle eastern nations and send their angry wartorn refugees into the heart of yurop
* ???
* profit!
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>>78787022
>over Muslims?
>all these refugees from the Muslim world

You literally bought into the SJW propaganda, anon. Most of them are not from the Muslim world, but from Africa... They´re likely Christians, and there´s absolutely no reason why they should be eligable for asylum in Europe..

By calling it Muslims immigration you´re reinforcing the narrative that these are people fleeing the war torn regions around Syria and Iraq, and to a lesser degree Libya and Afghanistan. This is pertinently false.
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>>78788068
But the Germans and French are assuming that Muslim immigrants are able to work in a high-tech service-based economy and willing to pay high taxes to pay for pensions for millions of old infidels.

You can replace everyone in Germany or France with Turks or Syrians. But you what? Those Turks and Syrians don't suddenly become German or French. They remain Turks and Syrians and they change their host country into a facsimile of their old country.

>>78788220
He's wrong. It's not about ceasing to exist. It's about benefits and old age pensions. The Germans and French fill their countries with shitskins because their shrinking workforce will not be able to provide all the benefits that old Germans want.

>>78788303
You should take a class on statistical demography instead of getting your information from youtube videos.
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>>78788779
Japan has the same problem and doesnt import millions of sandniggers
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>>78788988
You are not very bright if you think germanys population dropping from 80 to 12 million wouldn't destroy the county.

You can't even suggest any incentives for germans to have the amount of children required.

The 16 million people of breeding age in germany I mentioned? Many of them as Muslim turks so the situation is actually worse.

Millions of Muslims are already being invited to Germany everyone year to fix the problem they have so it's already started.

All your insults and exclamation marks and anger at this are pretty funny. We really did send all our retards to the colonies.
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>>78788988
Incentives for having larger families? Like what, giving millions to gays for getting married and adopting from outside their borders? There are no breeders left due to psychological warfare, idiot.
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>>78788303
>What happens to a country when it's population goes from 80 million to 12 million? Idiot.

They can share the wealth with less people...
>Decreasing populations in Western Europe
>Bad
We're fucking full. You don't need huge populations to do well... Look at Scandinavia. 'we need more population' memes are the MAIN fucking justification for allowing the hordes of illiterates to come home to mama Merkel.
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>>78788068
Just fucking incentivize reproduction by giving great loans, interest rates, and multiple children benefits like Hitler did.
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>>78789224
you're a moron, kill yourself
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>>78789216
Okay 16 million germans with a fertility rate of 1.5 will result in what exactly?
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>>78789254
another idiot
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>>78787022
EU was killed by Mutti Merkel.
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>>78789333

>16 million Germans
>Population trends are entirely stable and never change
>That's why our grandparents all had 7 brothers and sisters

Jesus Christ paddy...
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>>78789301
You can't make a single argument. It's retards like you with your head buried in the sand that caused this problem.

Maybe you are a Muslim and don't like what is happening being pointed out.
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>>78787739
Of course but the intention was to import voters. Just like how poor dumb niggers always vote democrate and even my fucking latino faggot spic people always vote democrat, because the other side is racist and democrates "let them in"

Votes = Power. Only thing is they have a chance to back fire as you said. But either way they'll both unite against us and eat each other after.
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Subservient subhumans are easier to rely upon for political support and votes.

Whites with a brain will actually get up and vote, though.

What happened in Britain is the flattery evidence of a very large, very silent majority that I've ever seen. Global politics will never be the same.
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>>78789416
So your explanation is that the ethnic german fertility rate will just explode for some reason and lests just hope that happens.

Kek
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>>78789333

holy shit you are so mathematically obtuse it's not even funny.

carry right along.
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>>78789222
And how is Japan's economy doing now? Kek
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>>78789514

Your entire reasoning is that they need to breed like maniacs for what purpose exactly?

I think I'm beginning to understand why Ireland has a history of mass starvation...
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>>78789003
But before we had swords, support from the church and the Christian states.
Now they let muzzies in control and it would be racism.
It's ideological war that was staged against us.
If a muzzie chumps out the only solution was to kill him in public but now they feel free to do whatever they want because no one will dare to oppose them because muhh racism.
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>>78787022

They are looking at things from an on paper perspective, as marxists are prone to do.
On paper the migrants are young able bodied men who will be theoretically helping to support the aging population for decades, from a human perspective they are a cancer to society that will cause perpetual civil unrest due to their cultural incompatibility
The elites tried the old subtle silk glove fascism through shaming/silencing criticism and all it has done has formed a silent majority, which is what caused Brexit(and will cause Nexit, Frexit, Swexit etc.)
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>>78789605
We need more people because otherwise the welfare system can't handle the 12% youth unemployment.

Wait.
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>>78789560
I dont know, tell me.

They have alot of hight tech companies at hand
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Europe must be destroyed in order to be reborn.
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>>78788068
Implying its a bad thing population stop growing at some point. Really the quality of life would improve, we dont need as much people as before with technology. Remove children welfare, just keep tax incentive to encourage upper class to make more children.
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>>78789677
>Now they let muzzies in control and it would be racism.

What exactly do Muslims control, besides kebab and barber shops?
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>>78787022
Kalergi's plan of Paneuropa.
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>>78789828
What you're saying makes intuitive sense, but doesn't a nation require some critical mass of population in order to function? If Germoney were to drop from 80 mio to 30 mio in a generation and a half, couldn't that have some effect on its power on the global stage?
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>>78789546
No one can tell me why I'm wrong. Everyone just gets angry and tells me that I am wrong.

Lol why the butthurt. Just explain the flaws in my reasoning.
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>>78789161
>dey were all christians dey dindu nuffin
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>>78787022
Because they are dying and need worker-slaves.
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>>78787022
>why do you think these leaders are seriously letting all these refugees from the Muslim world in their midst?

It wasn't their choice (not even Merkel's).

It was pure incompetence, nothing more.
And it is this incompetence that we have to deal with all the time, that's why everybody hates the EU.
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>>78790049
It would mean total economic collapse. What would happen to an economy when demand for goods and services fell to less than half? You wouldn't be able to give houses away.

Business would go under with no one to buy from them. Stock price collapse. Pension collapse etc.
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>>78788068
50% of jobs are expected to be automated within the next 50 years
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>>78788753
Which begs the question, what scenario is the scariest? Evil master plan or ego retards?
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Because they're dying anon ;_;
I mean sure its their own fault but we can fix them
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>>78788779
They have ten kids each, are you mathematical illiterate?
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>>78787840
>Japanese-jew that wanted a mulatto europe
name?
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>>78790058
You're Irish.
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>>78787022
Closing borders would lead to inbreeding and the increase of fucking white males, which must be avoided at all costs.
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>>78787022
>Why did the EU kill itself over Muslims?

Because the european people are not in control of the EU.

The United States and its monetary interests are.

>Knowing that it is costing them the European Union they have worked for half a century to force into existence, why do you think these leaders are seriously letting all these refugees from the Muslim world in their midst?

Divide and conquer. The US is making sure EU will never be a rival and will stay a controllable puppet.
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>>78790099
>>dey were all christians dey dindu nuffin

You really are a fucking imbecile, anon.. But I guess that was to be expected from an American.

I'm not saying they have a right to come here. I'm not saying they deserve our sympathy. I'm not saying they're not savages just because they're Christian (converting savages is like Christian passtime #1). I'm not saying they're not going to cause (and already cause) gigantic problems in Europe. I'm not saying we should be glad they're Christians...

I'm saying THEY'RE NOT FROM WAR TORN MUSLIM COUNTRIES, and as such THEY ARE NOT REFUGEES, and as such THEY DO NOT DESERVE ASYLUM and as such the official 'muh poor Syrian muzzie refugees' IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.

Why would you try to reinforce the official 'poor wartorn families' narrative when it's so clearly a lie?

Are you part lizard?
>Americans trying to meme their way though European political issues
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>>78790349
All the euros are very butthurt in this thread because I'm pointing out to them that they are done as a race.
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>>78787022
Because it is an institution staffed with former NGO people, Class C Bureaucrats without an effective way of handling stuff.

It was pure incompetencie mixed with old bastards and companies getting wild for slave workers and secure pension schemes.
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>>78790218
And these automated jobs are to sell to who exactly?
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>>78790353
What
a
cuck
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>>78790058
>Just explain the flaws in my reasoning.

You're not counting today's children, who will become of breeding age in a couple of years.

Sure the population size will drop, but nowhere as dramatically as you suggest.
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>>78790485
Yes, paddy, we know you're just jealous of your white neighbors. Settle down now.
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>>78790049
I do not see anything stop functionning if our population halved. We would have less pressure on jobs and real estate market, we would decrease pollution, life would just be better for everyone.

Population was useful in time of war to raise an army but those times are gone. With nuclear weapons I do not see population as an indicator of power on the global stage and most borders will remain as they are now anyway so it is useless to wage war.
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>>78790694
>60% white and falling
Kek
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>>78790775

>Irish
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>>78790353
I'm glad we're leaving.
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>>78790470
I don't even know where to begin with your post, you are clearly a very deluded and possibly mentally unstable individual. I'll just leave this statistic here, maybe you can read graphs, maybe they are a product of the lizardmen from Jew world #9. It can go either way with schizoid types like yourself
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>>78790058
If you like refugees so much, why don't you take them all? By your logic it would be a good think to import the whole Africa to your island.
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Jewish overlords can treat easy the mudlsimes than european people who demands more work and civil rights than them.

That's why. Cheap brown working class.
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>>78790470
They are not Christians though. There are barely any Christians in ME and North Africa from where the majority of refugees are coming from and Muslims throw them off the boats anyway. Also Christians are indeed cause much less problems and assimilate better than Muslims.
You don't need to claim bullshit to challenge war-torn countries narrative.
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>>78787840
>>78790339

Coudenhoven-Kalergi
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>>78790958

>2016

You realise the crisis has been developing since, and half of Africa is now scraping money together for their very own shitty boat to float to Italy? Also..
>Eritrea, 50% Christian
>Kosovo
>Albania
>Russia
>Somalia
>Nigeria
>Stateless
>Congo
>Sri Lanka
>Georgia

Not entirely sure, but I don't think most of these are Islamic countries.
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>>78790216
If demand fall, prices will fall and we wont have to pay ridiculous amount of money for basic service like housing anymore.

Who cares if economy "collapse" by today standards if it means better quality of life for everyone ? The only losers would be the multinationals CEOs and the likes but they would still live very well.
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>>78790835
>Muslim
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The EU is ruled by emotion not logic. What the western world should do imo is just destroy the UN or get rid of that dumb refugee/asylum law.

At this rate there's some nasty disgusting asylum seeker in every town. I have nothing against the guy that did his paperwork to come here LEGALLY but i hate, HATE asylum seekers and refugees. I hope they die of cancer and choke on it too.

Also fuck the EU, fuck em
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>>78789333
A population of 12m max next generation.
8m next generation
6m
4.5m
etc.
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>>78791047
When did I say I like refugees? Work on your English.
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The leaders of Europe wanted to bring them in so they can replace the westernized underclasses. Stupid highly religious prople are much easier to control than secularized westerners.
I think they planned to be like the Saudi royal family, but failed to realize that sandniggers are insanely racist and would forcibly remove any non-hooknose from an influential position.
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>>78791146
>They are not Christians though. There are barely any Christians in ME
There are barely any refugees from the ME.
>and North Africa from where the majority of refugees are coming from
Most actually come from Sub Saharan.. The North Africans were already here.
>and Muslims throw them off the boats anyway.
It happens, but I doubt it's so common that all Christians drown before getting here.
>Also Christians are indeed cause much less problems and assimilate better than Muslims.
It doesn't fucking matter, they should all fuck off WE'RE FULL.
>You don't need to claim bullshit to challenge war-torn countries narrative.
You also don't need to claim that all refugees are from Islamic countries, because they're not.
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>>78790711
"All of our people and power will disappear and everything will be just fine."
Good goy
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>>78787840
https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/the-destruction-of-the-indigenous-peoples-of-europe-is-not-an-accident/
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>>78791286
That's if all 80 million have 1.5 most their population are too old for that. Their average age is 45.

Less than half will have the 1.5 so it's maybe 40 going to 30 million and thr older people dying.
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>>78791289
When you spend half of the thread screaming about that the solution of low birthrates is to import africa.
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One day Frau Merkel said on TV that millions of Middle Eastern and African people are welcome to Germany and Europe, the media spammed image of drown 3-year-old and other suffering children everywhere and since most white people are humane and don't enjoy seeing animals or children suffering, they thought there would be kids who need help. When it turned out it's just military aged men who want gibsmedats it was too late to say we dun goofed.
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>>78787022
>miscalculated

Honestly this, They let open the floodgates of immigration before the spirit of nationalism was truly dead, they got greedy. Think about it, if they had waited even 10 years more then there would be no chance in hell of a brexit, with older voters dying and the brain washed eu youth replacing them.
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>>78791286
Or maybe it will stabilize the instance average Germans can afford homes big enough to raise 3 children?

And again: people under 20 should also be counted in population predictions - they will become adults one day.
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>>78787254
>Due to the absolutely retarded people I've seen in my country, in university and elsewhere. It does not surprise me in the least to see that even our leaders quite frankly are, retarded as well.

If you look at the Parliament: Some are retarded voting bots managed by some very clever wolfs.

Go along to get along have proven itself to be a superior survival strategy. Some of us have ruined our lives, by shoving our power level.
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>>78789216
>The Germans and French fill their countries with shitskins because their shrinking workforce will not be able to provide all the benefits that old Germans want.

But the immigrant shitskins are on welfare too.
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>>78791535
Can you not tell the difference between explaining and advocating?
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>>78791731
The numbers of people under 20 are counted. You can include them in the numbers of you think it fixes. Germany's problems. It doesn't come close.
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>>78791906
Germans made it illegal for the shit skins not to accept any work they are offered. They are all on jobs bridge kek
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>>78787022
They pushed too hard too early. The ethnic replacement of europeans with low-iq shitskins worked as long as it was a gradual process. Stuffing millions of them into europe at once was too greedy and the goyim woke up.
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>>78791617
>They let open the floodgates of immigration before the spirit of nationalism was truly dead, they got greedy.

The EU was set up precisely to tackle populous dissent like this. The referendum will either be ignored, redone or bypassed Norway style
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>>78791926
No.
You sound like every other buttmad SJW that goes "We need refugees, otherwise were doomed."

Maybe this is why the other half of the thread is telling you to go fuck your own face.
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>>78787022
Payouts from global power players like Soros, and Saudi oil princes. Also some big corporate money that sees the grubby Muslim migrants as cheap labor that is more easily controlled than your average thinking western white.
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>>78791906
Yes, that's the problem. That's the giant hole in the entire kraut strategy.
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>>78792237
Germany needs them or they are doomed. Ireland doesn't. Don't know about Finland. Germany really is doomed.
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>>78791731
>Or maybe it will stabilize the instance average Germans can afford homes big enough to raise 3 children?

Realestate in Germany is cheap. No one has problems affording a 5 room house or apartment.
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>>78792017
>The numbers of people under 20 are counted.

Not in the "16 million" figure you use.
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>>78788753
But divide-and-conquer *is* a plan, and it has worked very well. Look at the USA with its democrat/republican parties that both represent the same big money interests (jew bankers, military-industrial complex, etc.)
Already the western population has been severely dumbed-down via public education, which feeds them lies, numbs their natural critical thinking abilities and inquisitiveness, and effectively brainwashes all children from young age to adultood (and beyond via mass media). Read John Taylor Gatto. Search for "Human Resources - Social Engineering In The 20th Century (Full Length Documentary)" on youtube (they keep deleting it, so I don't have current link). The state-mandated brainwashing has been going on since the late 19th century, and it's *very* effective.
The muslim invasion is simply taking the divide-and-conquer approach to the next level, so europeans lose their sense of identity, and also to lower the average IQ and make the population easier to control.
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>>78792417
>Realestate in Germany is cheap.

Not in cities where young people want to live.
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>>78788068

>implying a population shrinkage would be a bad thing
>implying Europe isn't terribly overpopulated

>implying even if we did need more babies, the solution is to take in third world immigrants
>not incentivize the local population with family benefits and propaganda like Hitler and Mussolini did
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>>78790058
Idiot, what happens to Germany and France when the muslims reach <50%? Those countries really do cease to exist. It's Eurabia, and I'm not meming. If you do not have French and Germans, you by definition do not have a France and Germany. That's the point of a state as it was and should be, not the modern idea where it is a bullshit "idea".

Leftists are either actively malevolent cunts who want the destruction of western civilisation or genuinely clueless idiots who just want goyshekels and gibs, I can never work out which. Probably a combination. Here's the solution:

>Forcibly kick out non-natives, and the children of non-natives, either 6 feet under or back to where they came
>Build a wall on land borders towards cancer societies and naval control on sea borders towards cancer societies. So border wall on Turkish border and let the Greek/Italian/Spanish navies do their jobs in the Med.
>Lower the cost of living/housing/schooling and give benefits for married couples as they have more kids, up to a reasonable number like 5 or 6 (Later lower to 3 or 4, then 3 or 2 as the population stabilises. Or remove when population stabilises and then impose a tax until couples had 2 kids. Just always make it more beneficial to breed to replacement rate.)
>Run propaganda encouraging people to breed

It won't be fixed in a year but it'll be fixed in 20. And end the left. There, you have a functional country.
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But why mudslimes?

Why not take in mass amounts of Hindu Poo in Loos?

They have lots of kids too and unlike mudlsimes they aren't afraid of working actual jobs and they have some strange aversion to strapping explosives to themselves or slaughtering people by the dozen at airports and gay clubs.

Plus I'd fuck Hindi bitches all day erryday.

Call me a race traitor /pol/. I don't give a fuck.
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>>78792444
So fix it and show me how I'm wrong.
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>>78792766
Yeah I agree. They risk civil war. They are doing it anyway.
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Do you really not understand why the liberal elite wants to replace us all with low IQ brown workers who are still easily manipulated and controlled?
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>>78792816

Now fuck off
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>>78787022
You make the mistake of thinking that the elite leaders of Europe care about the future of Europe.

They do not. They care about the future of THEMSELVES. They care about having enough money and influence to set their own children up with nice trust funds so they can go to good schools before living a comfortable life of leisure.

Most will go into finance to earn the really big salaries, but part of the scam requires some to go into politics and earn slightly less bux, but act as the protectors of the rest of the elite class, facilitating their tax evasion, their low-wage workers, and the bread-and-circuses that prevent the lower classes from turning against them.

That's what the Muslims are. A distraction. A very good distraction, because when the working man sees his daughters getting gangraped by Somalian migrants, he rightly turns his wrath on the migrants. But this is the whole point. When your daughter is being raped, you don't have the luxury of pondering on the iniquities of corporate finance and arbitrage.

It's a genius move, because it's win/win for the elites. Their own children are safe from the hordes because they send them to leafy mono-white private schools where coloured people can't even afford to breathe the air. And the lower classes HAVE to obsess about the migrants rather than the elites, because the migrants are literally raping them while the elites are only figuratively raping them.
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>>78792593
>Not in cities where young people want to live.

No you are wrong, real estate is comparably cheap in cities too.
Beside why would you wanna raise children in the "drinking and fucking" districts of Düsseldorf? They are fine for "drinking and fucking" which is why young people wanna live there, but do you really need to be there raising a family?
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>Globalists convince 1st world nations to slow reproduction rates with lies about "overpopulation" and "global warming"
>Now have them convinced their lowered birth rates will kill off their countries unless they accept massive influx of immigrants from black africans

You gotta hand it to the Merchant. He's got them coming and going.
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>>78787022
>not knowing the whole point of the eussr was to flood yurop with rapefugees to exterminate yuropoors
Stay bluepill.
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>>78792330
Yep, a dip in the population is totally absolutely going to spell an end to their existence. And even if I believe that I guess there's no where in the world to find white refugees. No where at all...

Gotta import africans. Gotta breed with the africans. Because a germany full of black and brown muslims would totally be just like germany is now, so it would be saved. Without africans it would simply fall into a sinkhole and cease to exist. A barren wasteland peopled by no one. An empty post apocalyptic wasteland in the middle of a densely populated continent.
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>>78788353

>More to the point, they could have had cheap labour with Chinese/Slavic immigrants.

This.

We have an enormous Chinese community in Italy, and nobody cares.
You literally never hear anyone complain about the Chinese.

Why? Because they work hard, they pay their taxes, they don't demand special treatment and they don't cause any problems.

I've literally never heard someone get robbed by a Chinese.

>>78789216
>The Germans and French fill their countries with shitskins because their shrinking workforce will not be able to provide all the benefits that old Germans want.

That's the result of the baby boomers socializing everything.

Socialized pensions, in the form they were implemented in Europe, were a huge mistake.
They're a Ponzi scheme that required more and more people to be able to pay for the elderly, because they didn't contribute enough money to the fund when they were young.

This can only work for so long and the system is already starting to collapse.
Who's gonna take the hit? Young people, who are having to make an ever increasing contribute and see their estimated pension shrinking rather than growing.

Nobody should be responsible for your retirement other than yourself.
If you're not smart enough to sit down half an hour and figure out how much money you'll need to retire and save it, you don't deserve to live.
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>>78788220
This is the globalists instant attack script.

"You need to replace your low birth rates with these Muslims"

When in reality everything will be automated very soon and low birth rates are actually not a problem.
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>>78792995
That's about 3 million people and 1.5 million potential couples. It doesn't fix germanys problems.how many of them are ethnic turks?
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>>78792766
Civil war will happen far before >50% anyway..
The situation is already borderline intolerable at 7.5%, now imagine it at 20%.
It will be Yougoslavia and Lebanon all over again.

I'm absolutely certain their will be a french civil war during my lifetime in the 2040-50s and it will probably contagious like the 1848 europeans revolutions or the arab spring.

I don't know what WASP will do in USA too, the mexicans are far less threatening than muslim but still Trump is the swan song.
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>>78793024
>why would you wanna raise children in the "drinking and fucking"

How do you think babies are made if not by fucking?
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>>78793268
>Socialized pensions, in the form they were implemented in Europe, were a huge mistake.
Tell us more about Enron and the pensions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron
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>>78789288
RACIST! PUTIN!
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>>78793088
its not really a dip, its more like a drop. you don't understand exponentials, which is understandable, since you're clearly retarded.

If every 2 people in 80 million has 1 child, in one generation you have 40 million new people created from 80 million. The next generation, assuming the same birth rate (in all likelihood it would be lower, but im being generous to prove a point) you have 20 million people created from that 40 million.

In two generations, there are now about 40 million people trying to support nearly double that through taxation. Their money is transferred to the government to support the retired and elderly, in need of expensive care and living arrangements.

But you cannot support that many people with so few workers. Ideally, you want FAR MORE people paying in then are benefitting. Longer lives and lowered birth rates make this impossible, social programs implode, bonds from that country are worth nothing, investors flee, and the country faces a depression.

YOU NEED PEOPLE WORKING IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN.

Most people learn to think exponentially, or geometrically, by the time they turn six. Its OK if it takes you longer.
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>>78788779
Yes. And this is the funniest part of this entire debacle. Europe made it almost IMPOSSIBLE for working class Americans to immigrate (i.e. white people). I can remember multiple times in my life looking into immigrating to Berlin for work in the tech industry. Every time I did a little research I found that immigrating as a FUCKING WHITE AMERICAN was extraordinarily difficult. You need to prove you had a professional skill that was unfulfilled in Germany. You had to have a certain amount of money saved up in the bank (and it was the kind of money that a working class person usually does not have). And I think there may have even been some sort of language requirement, but I don't really remember atm.

My point is up until all this madness, Germany and France went out of there way to make it hard for most Americans to immigrate to their countries.

But seriously, WHY?
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>>78788779
You do realise there are things called generations right?
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>>78792633
This
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>>78795634
You would be right if there wasn't such a huge bulge in germanys population among the elderly.
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>>78793880

I mean part of me actually thinks that if the migrants showed up with like halfway decent attitudes.

They didn't shove there camel fucking religion in everyones face.

They were polite. Learned english. Showed an appreciation for the country and culture they were arriving in...that things might honestly have gone differently.

People might have felt differently.

But look at this shit....rape...no go zones...garbage everywhere....spiraling crime....

What in the fuck did the mudshits think was going to happen? People care less and less about racism everyday. Even normies are waking up to the fact that is a meme.

These migrants had these countries full of people and governments willing to support and help them and they turned it.... in less then a few fucking years....into shit....like their home countries.

Just give me a fucking break...pack up your burkas and beards and get the fuck out of the west.
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>>78795481
Guess they better give the country to the africans then. It can be little africa.

No sense in trying to find some white europeans fleeing war, or time to encourage natives to hump, best just hand shit over to the africans, who DO NOT WORK. because they'll die without workers so they have to import a bunch of african welfare leeches.
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>>78792633
What world are you people living in?

Do you know what power shrinking populations have compared to non-shrinking ones?

Do you even see whats going on? You don't control this world. The people who hold your countries bonds control this world. Investors control this world and the fate of nations. If you can't replace yourselves, you cannot pay your debt, you are not a good investment, you will become an irrelevant shithole.

The reason why the west won was because we had well-fed large families with lots of patriotism and lots of productivity across the economic spectrum (white collar to blue collar).

Now western universities are filled with foreigners, productivity levels and nutrition across the world are evening out, families are disintegrating and patriotism is literally a joke.

You need people. Shrinking countries ARE NOT GOOD INVESTMENTS. Investors leave the country, everybody sells their bonds because its not about what that bond can make, its what that bond can make relative to another, growing, younger country.

You need people, bottom line. You don't think you do, but everybody else does, especially those who allocate capital.

You want to shrink into irrelevancy, fine, but you will be nothing.

Fuck, or bring in the niggers. Those are your two options.
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Because they hold a deep belief that all human beings are the same, and they just want to blur all countries into one. Once we're one country all the problems of poverty and war etc etc will fade away as we are all united with our equal brothers and sisters and all share one common purpose.

What they fail to understand is that groups have basic fundamental tendencies. Blacks tend to be lazy and violent, Arabs are easily brainwashed and are also violent, Jews tend to be greedy and conniving. By fundamentally denying that differences between racial groups exist they miss the point and flood the successful areas with people from the groups that will never be successful and only degrade the world for everyone else.
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>>78787022
>Serious question /pol? Knowing that it is costing them the European Union they have worked for half a century to force into existence, why do you think these leaders are seriously letting all these refugees from the Muslim world in their midst?

Planned from the start m8.
It was to be Soviet Union 2.0

Must first erase identity and nationalism to make way for United States or Europe.
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>>78787254
It really is scary to see how naive a lot of these young university students are nowadays.

They've only met Abdul from their philosophy class who comes from a wealthy family and is educated in the west and they assume that all arabs are like that.
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>>78787022
Saudi oil money. Not hard to accomplish after you systematically destroy everyone's sense of nationalism
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>>78796688
Yeah cuz the super breeders like africans, poo in loos and mexicans are great investments simply bursting with relevancy.
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>>78796970
>United States OF Europe.*
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>>78795944
What are boomers for $200 Alex
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>>78797231
We are literally doing everything in our power to compete with them and they don't even have proper toilets. Thats the power of population. China will fucking destroy us in the next 50 years. With your thinking, there will be nothing to destroy. A population can quarter in less than two generations.
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>>78796688

>Imblying that bringing in the niggers is going to prop up the bond yield on any country that does.

What fucking world are you living in?

A white population might decline and that might be a serious problem but if you bring in the niggers its over FOREVER.

The niggers will never return the country to prosperity They will guarantee 3rd world status and lock it the fuck in forever.

Christ fellow burger how do you not see that?

>bring in the niggers

>bring in the clowns
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>>78797593
then have kids. ability to pay debts is all that a bond is worth and without workers, nobody gonna's touch that shit.
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>>78797806

>Shitskins

>Workers

I have kids. I spend an egregious amount of time slowly red pilling people I know. What the fuck else do you want neck beard?
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>>78796970
>>78797068
Do you have more credible source/more illustrative texts of "practical idealism"?

All I get is wingnut results when I look into it. But I can't tell if Richard is endorsing it or just making an observation.
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>>78795585
Same here. Before I came to Japan I looked into living and working in Germany but found it virtually impossible. A few years later they let in every goatfucker and negroid imaginable and pay them to rape their women and ruin their cities. Unbelievable.
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>>78797806
>without workers

But today, because of globalism, America's workforce is located all over the world ... in China, India, Mexico.

"Business" is a gang with no flag.
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>>78798455
Hey you're that guy who has the nylon bodysuit that has an old glory pattern, right?
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>>78798455

I I I just don't know what to say. No japs... but millions of shitskins?

Is Germany trying to be fucking cute or something? Is this all a huge ploy to force meme nazism back into their country?

Or are they really just this fucking stupid?
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>>78798688
No, but color me intrigued. Got a pic?
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>>78787022
They were trying to bleed Syria of its populace as a last ditch effort in that war which Assad is very much winning.
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>>78798852
Don't have a pic, just remembered a guy living from tinychat who lived in japan, was a marine stationed there iirc.
Would always talk about how jap sluts literally hound on his dick because they think he'll take them back to america and that they think all of america is jew york and el gay.
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>>78799148
Hyperbole. There are lots of sluts who like foreigners here but most of them are low hanging fruit and frankly gross. Next time some Japfag starts bragging about all the girls he's banged here ask him for proof, like timestamped pics or pics of them together with his face blurred.
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>>78799893
Nah he wasn't bragging about them, he was was pretty clear about the fact they're shit and just trying to use him because they're clueless about america.
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Anyone know if there's minutes or something to that degree of Bilderburg meetings that have been leaked or released?
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>>78800433
Yea, I forgot what most of it was but pretty much everything they went over at thi point has been rendered null void and completely fucking useless.
They're literally lost all control and they don't know it yet.
The elitist superstructure is going to be completely dismantled.
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>>78787022
Muslims are a surprisingly dangerous insect that can infest and destroy even the strongest of government infrastructure.

Just ask the Persians.
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They pushed the tolerance and diversity meme on their own people so long they started to believe it themselves
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>>78800594
ridiculous.

Even if true it doesn't mean she can't have that, simply with a brexit happening.

>>78800672
still, I'd like to see it. How have they lost control? I just wanted to chart where things went, it seems around 1955 was when the EU was conceived of by them. I figure even if they did lose control the power shifted to another group of elites.
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>>78787022
>Soros Foundations all across Europe promoted multiculturalism, the immigration scam, printing multilingual guides on how to claim benefits in Germany, UK, France, Sweden

>Soros bought gold, shorted pound and sold all his shares the week before the Brexit vote

>Soros went out in front of the media and announced yesterday the EU is going to fold, that a collapse of the union and the currency is inevitable


He did this things openly and nobody batted a fucking eye. Rulers of the world out in the open manipulating world events and nobody says anything. Nice little goy system you've got for yourselves here. It would be a shame if I was to CRASH IT.
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>>78798080
https://pol-check.blogspot.com/2015/06/practical-idealism-by-richard-nicolaus.html

for anyone interested. Can anyone confirm if it is a legit source? it reads like an 18 year olds philosophical musings - terrible.
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>>78800959
>How have they lost control?
He who controls the memes controls the universe.
>the power shifted to another group of elites.
It did, that's us.
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>>78790353
> this man is pretty much controlling the EU as he has the most important seat
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A few questions for Eurobros: Does the EU have a minimum wage or is it determined by he individual countries? Is it legal to pay these "refugees" less then the minimum wage? Once in the EU can the "refugees" then travel anywhere within the EU for work or to live?
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>>78801214
>It did, that's us.

doubt.
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>>78792633
This

Reducing a nation to mere numbers on an excel sheet.

Our rulers have gone done this satanic route and will be burned for it
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>>78800971
No, I noticed that bit. It all came together when he announced his "precious" EU is going to collapse.
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>>78790536
To diverse progressive multicultural PoCs (People of Color)
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>>78787022
Because it's the objective of the EU. To emasculate whites and to breed them away, and eventually kill them off. It's only doing what it always attempted to do.
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>>78793880
I'll be fucking 55 by the time that happens god damn it man seriously I am fucking fucked I wanted to be able to see that shit an be apart of it but ill just be some crippled old man
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>>78790353
That's it, I'm done.
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>>78790220
Stupid. Evil takes breaks. Stupid is relentless.
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>>78787022

People on /pol/ seriously underestimate Saudi influence
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>>78793880
>>78801852
The USSR thought there would be war with Germany in 10 years in 1940. Once events start unfolding they happen rapidly. I wouldn't be surprised if there's war within the next few years.

When enough people start thinking war is inevitable. It becomes inevitable and that's when it happens.
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>>78787022
1) cheaper labor
2) a weapon to pressure countries into submission
3) white genocide (jewish plan)

I´d say you have a beautiful combination of jewish capitalism controlling this mechanism.
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>>78803126
And once conflict sparks in one region it fires off like a chain of dominoes everywhere there are similar conditions.
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>>78798455

What I love about this current nationalist backlash that we are seeing is that many problems, like the roadblocks for American immigration to Europe, will eventually be addressed. In fact, much of the SJW bullshit will eventually be addressed. That is the power of the silent majority.
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>>78804557
Immigration from America to Europe should be blocked and vice versa.
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>>78788616
My policy would be to benefit families and make the middle class comfortable enough to produce more children, not introduce a retard slave class that sucks out the resources, commit waves of violence, and destroy the infrastructure of a country for the sake of keeping myself voted in, you stupid potato-nigger. Go have another pint and think about what you have been shilling.
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