Former lefties, what made you turn right-wing?
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>>78763342
Growing up, /pol/, and atlas shrugged in that order
Trump
>>78763342
Being a grocery store cashier, teaching in Black schools, and Ferguson/Trayvon/Baltimore.
>>78763342
Me, it was just life. I kept getting "susrprised" by how much I was failing, and how unfair life was, then I started seeing that life isn;t fair, and all the advice my elders gave me was true.
Besides, the Left was just getting so ridiculous it was hard not to reject them, as they had lost touch with reality.
Also, the more I researched the Right, the more they made sense and actually used, whereas the Left would just insult and degrade.
So, three things:
1. Life experience
2. The Left went nuts
3. The Right was fact-based
>>78763342
Getting a real job, having a family, coons breaking into house.
>>78763342
Again, growing up.
Here you are on the front page once more. Nice.
>>78763342
/pol/ and Islam did it for me. Add a history degree on top of that and you have a brand new conservative.
Pol
>>78763342
tbqh Stefan Molyneux's Untruth about Trump was my first major redpill experience that made me swing right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg
>>78763342
Police brutality affects every nation and every race. Leftists made it about niggers.
Immigration affects every nation and every race. Leftists made it about beaners.
The Civil Rights movement was dedicated to helping genuinely disadvantaged non-white peoples. Leftists turned it into LGTBBQ nonsense which now means it is predominantly about mentally ill white people.
Grew up and attained the strong desire to succeed, the migrant crisis in europe then /pol/.
After questioning the open borders shit in europe last year, i started investigating wtf this gamer gate shit and here we go.
Was a left leaning centrist for as long as I can remember but now am totally socially conservative and nationalist.
I was never full left or right until I was overseas and saw the Orioles play in an empty stadium because of the Baltimore riots. At that point I knew the left was actively dividing the country.
>>78763867
Well a lot.of.tumblerinas self diagnose PTSD and shit to describe their temper tantrums
Ehh, I've been on 4chan since I was 11, and even 4chan has shifted in terms of its political standing.
Point is, I doubt I'm typical, but personally I just got tired of how insane the left is. These people are fucking nutcases, almost every one of them is full of self-hatred, borderline-retarded, and denies reality constantly.
I haven't swung entirely towards the right, but I'm definitely registering as Independent this cycle.
I just don't understand how people can become the average leftist.
What the fuck causes it?
Is it some kind of insane trauma? I've got trauma of my own, but I'm not fucking insane.
Is it a race thing? I doubt it, because I'm not even fucking white, and I'm sure there are others like me who aren't completely braindead.
What the fuck is it?
Why does it happen?
>>78763467
You actually read a novel of ideas? Lmao
>>78763342
The left ruining pretty much everything.
>Equality
Nope, it's supremacy now you filthy racist
>Security
Oh wow, you think that letting literally millions of Muslims from a war zone might not be a good idea? You fucking fascist.
>National pride
You're literally a Nazi.
>Education
So you don't think that gender studies is a rigours degree? You must be a misogynist then.
>Criticism
You'll literally get fired, no matter how high profile you are, or how light hearted your comments are
>Debate
Oh wow, you're actually doubting my life experiences? You're a fucking white male, you should just be quire.
The left, or perhaps this "new left", have ruined everything they've touch in this country for the past 20 years. Today left wingers are pretty much just the fascists they claim to hate, there reaction to the brexit referendum just proves that.
>>78763342
>Media lies with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown.
>More concerned with not offending people than people being murdered (see Charlie Hebdo)
>Trigger warnings and safespace bullshit all around my dorm in college.
>Misleading, Misguided, and outright lies about Donald Trump. Not a fan of Trump, but the lengths places like Huffington Post, MSNBC commentators, Salon, and Gawker would go to lie and make shit completely up with click bait really had an emotional appeal. I acknowledge its an emotional appeal.
Above everything else, this:
>Defend people based on physical identity and demographic rather than, ya know, the actual fucking facts of the situation (And if not, make up facts or whining pleas of victim hood)
You can take this as fact and guaranfuckingtee the progressive response will be 100% based on the aforementioned criteria. It doesn't mean the left can't be right about certain things, but the route they use to ascertain their conclusion ALWAYS follows this bullshit logic.
>>78763342
I'm right only because there are nonwhites in the country, and socialism doesn't work with them. A socialist pure aryan country would be the ideal utopia.
>>78763342
Couple people were talking about a videowith the title "open borders policy" or something along those lines. Anybody know, or better yet got a link?
And for how I turned, I was argueing with someone about how communism is good, they said "people only work if shown an incentive or are forced to. Communism doesn't believe in rewarding workers so you get a lot of death camps." After that I went and fact checked on my other liberal beliefs, became redpilled, found /pol/ somewhere along the line
>>78764244
Happens at a young age and the school system constantly shows leftist shit down their throats. Usually starts with them liking communism, we all went through that phase.
>>78764295
If you look at every top rated comment on Facebook videos of Mic, NowThis, Huffington Post, Vice, Gawker, etc., this is the response to any criticism to the tee.
>>78764687
AJ+ as well
>>78764244
I'm convinced white guilt is primarily genetic and is triggered by certain events (single moms, uni brainwashing, etc.)
>>78763342
I want to watch the world burn.
>>78764652
>Usually starts with them liking communism, we all went through that phase.
Luckily I read the Gulag Archipelago in high school. My own choice.
>>78763342
i started following right-wing blogs on tumblr because of the economic migrant crisis and i just couldn't help but start agreeing with right-wingers on almost all issues. now i have to resist the urge to take my commie friends on one-way helicopter rides
>>78763342
Nothing. Fuck all. I can be that one "I was saying Boourns" guy and still be correct. You are still fringe
>>78764244
>I've been on 4chan since I was 11
All my classes had a liberal bias.
>>78764801
Ivan Denisovich was assigned reading in HS for me.
Luckily I had already read it and was one of the best books I ever read.
>>78764687
It would be pathetic if it wasn't for the amount of political capital these people, somehow, have.
Never felt like i belonged to a side, when i heard that trump was an insane racist when he first ran i was surprised how he could be bad. I heard about bernie and his antilobbyist message and was like "i could get behind that" but something was off. Then he got cucked by BLM and said it himself that BLM and muh wage gap.
Its funny how night and day it is from that time compared to now. I never trusted the media and i learned from GamerGate (hate to admit) i saw the media manipulation right before my eyes and when i investigated Trump i realized it was the same thing on a exponential level.I knew he had to be right. Soon after i watched a trump debate and saw him call out the fucking audience as lobbyist shills and i fell in love. I then watched a rally and felt a feeling i never fucking felt before: Nationalism its nuts.
Its horrifying we are living 1984 bros we are the book we are the movie. We have to take em out.
>>78763342
Is zionism left or right. That is all. 50 golden dawns have been deposited
>>78764913
He's currently 12 years old
>>78763342
>liberals started to go on a censorship spree
>I wondered why these things were being censored
>found out about feminism and white-guilt
Thats about all it took
>>78763342
I'm pretty sure almost everyone here is a lefty turned right. Normal right leaning people don't use 4chan.
I've said it befor, I still hold the same beliefs.
Some weird shit happened to what end of the spectrum the beliefs fell on but I'm the same.
>>78763342
Wasn't really a lefty at most center left but Zimmerman
I was raised by my more libertarian father. Left leaning in a lot of stuff, but big on the constitution. A lot of my older neighbors were neo-republican right-wingers, and a lot of my classmates were in line with the proto-tumblr dems. Got a lot of different viewpoints. But mostly followed my classmates, with a bit of libertarian lean.
Then in '12, I moved to San Fran for two years, chasing after a girl I dated. Saw a lot of stuff that just didn't click with the leftist view of the world. Lots of homeless people that would seem to never think to help a stranger, or contribute back to the world. They seemed perfectly content to lie their way into any benifits they could get, and if they couldn't get any, they seemed much more content sleeping on the street than looking for a job.
Lots of gays and trannies that seemed to identify themselves by how 'against the grain' they were, even though they all copied each other in dress, and lord help you if you spoke out of line. Especially if you were straight, or white, or male. The girl I chased out to SF turned from a generally reasonable person into a raging tumblr genderqueer poly that I couldn't respect myself dating any longer. That one hurt.
I grew up in a small town, 90+% white, never had a bad thought about blacks, because I never really met one till I moved to SF. I remember watching 'The Boondocks' on Adult Swim a couple years before. Thought it was kinda insensitive and racist. After SF? I find it hilariously accurate.
But the worst of the worst, White Liberal Busybodies that worked at all these charities. Each and every comment even slightly denigrating a 'minority' was met with twisted apologetics that denied the reality in front of them. And a lot of them you could tell were just doing it to pump their own ego. Modern 'White Man's Burden.' None of this would be possible without them.
>>78763342
I didn't go right wing.
I just stopped being left wing.
both sides are a bunch of retards. Over 1/3 of the country rejects you both. And growing.
>>78764798
Not enough time has passed, man...
>>78764295
>Doubting my life experiences
Yeah, I'm gonna cite this one too, and the whole postmodern package it comes in.
It's like all of a sudden logic and reason are no longer the ingredients of a successful argument and productive debate. You must appeal to your experience as a [insert oppressed group here].
And of course, you can't argue against a personal experience. In fact, in the current SJW milieu the unforgivable sin is to BELITTLE SOMEONE'S LIVED EXPERIENCE. Like holy fuck, yeah it's called skepticism and rational inquiry. Your experiences are SUPPOSED to be doubted.
I couldn't take it anymore. Especially since as a white male I apparently could never make any arguments because my logic was infected by my privileged lived experience.
See vid from based Janice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLo4oaC61as
>>78765063
>>78764913
I'm actually 20 now.
Yea, I was one of those edgy fucktards that thought he was cool for being underageb& on 4chan, what can I say?
>>78763342
Honestly, I was mostly just sick of the arrogance and hypocrisy. I call myself an radical centrist now.
>>78763467
Atlas Shrugged changed the way I look at a lot of things too anon you aren't alone, not that I think it's perfect or anything.
Actually I'm consistently in awe at how much a single book can do; everyone should read regularly... it's not a meme.
>>78764801
Nice. My eighth grade teacher had a couple based posters in his class, but one that stuck out was listing how many people Hitler, Stalin, and some Chinese dictator killed. Don't remember much else. Found this pic about a week back, helped me remember it.
>>78763867
This.this.this.
>>78763342
Was a lefty through high school. Then I got to college and took economics about six years ago. I quickly realized how little I actually knew about the world. Made it my major, graduated, then got on the PhD track.
I started to hate people used smugness and condescension to get their point across and sound smarter than their opponents--a tactic employed by the Daily Show, Colbert, Oliver, most college-age liberals, and fedora-tier atheists. I used to be all OMGBTFO!! about it when I was on their side, but now it just comes off as insecure. Why try so hard to sound smart? They drag others down to lift themselves up psychologically. I can't condone that behavior.
Pic unrelated.
>>78764913
I have also browsed 4chan since I was 11. I never posted until I was about 16. I'm 19 now. It does have an affect on my political views
I never really had a preference, i tended to go to the left for the free education and health care sort of thing since we get that here. Letting in immigrants seemed the nice thing to do and i was for it, but really knew nothing.
I've played civ 5 for a few years, developed a passive interest in history but never really dug deeper.
I casually browsed reddit for the smaller subs like development stuff and sport. I'd see bernie there and he seemed to be the guy everyone liked. Free health care and education aligned with Aus so i went for him. That wasn't for long.
Then i'd watch all these history videos and read loads of stuff on war theory, nietszsche, and the motivations of the right. I never really understood them. Monarchy seemed outdated, harsh immigration seemed mean and awful. I believed all the "artificial borders" and "all humans" bullshit. All the people older than me that I trusted leant to the right side. I was so curious that I was missing out on something.
I had always browsed 4chan, mainly mu and g for like 5 years. Was a bit confronted with pol from all the nazi stuff. Took a while to understand the culture of pol. Can't remember exactly when i really started enjoying it on here, but the Trump election buzz made me start opening pol most days. it's was loads of fun. Those ycstt vids and milo were great gateways, then i dove into proper literature and documentaries
What made me change:
>I understand why every country needs borders.
>I understood why a world government is probably an awful idea (at least until mars is an autonomous colony...)
>I understood how immigration doesn't really solve the problem - doing more harm overall than good.
>I got why going full communism / socialism is stupid (having little parts like free health care or subsidised tertiary education is okay, never the full thing)
>I understood the value and purpose of religion. I don't believe in god, but the ideas of morality and the sense of community from churches worked.
>>78764985
I can't help but get irritated every time I see something like this on Facebook. A lot of these issues are something that aren't as 30 second video explanation (which leftists think somehow make them "woke), but you and I are well aware that if anyone went to criticize it, the mob mentality and ad hominem attacks would come so fast and viciously. I really want a genuine conversation with people and welcome opposing points of view. I'm not a bigoted asshole like they would like to think, I'm really not. But those opposing points of view needs to get from factual sources with a credible methodology.
More problems with the mainstream left than the mainstream right. Liberals have to actively seek out the biggest dumbasses possible--young earthers, global warming outright deniers, Laffer curve die hards--to look intelligent and distract from the absolute nut jobs they have (SJWs, Gun phobic fascists, radical environmentalists, socialists, etc.).
Hasidic jews. I've been working at a store that is frequently visited by them and for me they are easily the most parasitic fucking race I have ever seen.
Lately they have been trying to branch out from the Township they completely control and work their way into surrounding townships.
But instead of going about it like normal people, they walk from home to home in neighborhoods where houses are being sold and try to strong arm home owners into selling to then by threatening them with living in a Jewish controlled neighborhood.
I wish that one day we will have a president with enough backbone to cut ties to their fucking country so they are left to fend for themselves in the middle east.
>>78763342
The left. The left is the right's greatest recruiter.
Liberal republican here.
>>78765273
>>78765452
How the fuck do kids that young even find 4chan?
This guy.
>>78765432
>you can only go to extremes
stay redbilled, repdill person
>>78765273
You've been here a lot longer than me. I first came here when I was 19 and am 21 now, I saw the later end of /pol/'s transition from Libertarian to Nationalist Conservatism (if thats a phrase).
>>78763342
Neo-globalist new world order insider only leaders
>>78763467
Same actually. When I was in highschool I was one of those cringey "socialism lmao" "free shit lmao" kids. I think growing up led me to value freedom more than free shit.
>>78764518
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
>>78765251
>Like holy fuck, yeah it's called skepticism and rational inquiry. Your experiences are SUPPOSED to be doubted.
Fucking too right. It was mostly just really fucking irritating, until I started noticing people wanting to apply that """"""""""""""""""logic"""""""""""""""""" to criminal cases, particularly rape cases. And I guarantee you, that each an every one of them thinks they're much more rational and logical and intelligent than everyone else.
>>78763342
Leaving my sheltered mkiddle class bubble.
>>78765590
My older sister got me into /b/.
The rest is history.
>>78765679
To be fair, I haven't been on /pol/ long, only since maybe late 2013.
I usually just lurk and learn, it's an interesting board.
I'm grateful to have been introduced to Stephan Molyneux; while I don't agree with everything he says, I do find his videos and articles he posts pretty informative.
Naruto redpilled me
>>78765679
do we have early pol archives? i'd like to see arguments back then on why communism works and circlejerks on scandinavia and that sort of shit
>>78765720
Education also contributed I forgot to mention. Studying embryology made me against abortion from bundle of cells lmao edgelord.
>>78763342
I've always been a nationalist, but used to have a lot of left leaning ideals. Then I joined the army. I traveled, saw my country and the world, met new and interesting people and sometimes killed them.
What I learned is that monsters are our own creation. What we abuse, what we excuse, what we ignore. Whether it's the denial of the black crime rate or the system of neglect that allows an intelligent young white American to feel like a stranger at home.
I came home from Iraq to a different sort of view on my homeland. I saw the poverty and violence as glaring issues that could be fixed with an honest appraisal of our nation's failings.
And then I opened my mouth. Almost all of my friends are liberal as I am a musician, and it didn't take long for some to label me a bigot and a racist. I was taken aback at how I was insulted and misrepresented for having what I saw as logically sound opinions.
I spent hours debating with them, trying to make them understand how they were advocating fascism and government abuse of power.
Years later, I no longer give a fuck. I enjoy publicly embarrassing them through debate regardless of whether or not I'm labeled as this or that.
Every man's country needs independent, able bodied individuals to represent the interests of those who cannot represent themselves, if not through political voice, through strength of arms.
The American left has abandoned our people. I made an oath that I would not, from enemies foreign or domestic.
And to this day, I will not abandon my country.
>>78765590
Posting on videogame forums and seeing people mention it when raids occurred and what not. 4chan shenanigans have always attracted people.
>>78765069
I was never "left". The furthest left I ever was, was libertarian.
I often swing back and forth between the two sides. I have a lot of liberal ideas, but I see absolutely no reason why it's essential that we accept immigrants, especially illegal ones. That, and I can see how ridiculous SJWs and feminists are becoming, and I hate saying that I'm on the same side of the spectrum as them
I never really paid attention to politics until the recent PC ridiculousness, I've always voted Conservative because I am in the Military and they have fucked us the least. But in light of recent events, I realized that I am Right Wing as fuck.
>>78765069
This thread is so underrated
>>78765645
>not everyone in Nazi Germany believe in National Socialism
>not everyone in the Soviet Union believe in Communism
It literally does not matter, you fence sitters ultimately have no say. Fanatics (whether left or right) always lead
Pic related: WTF JEWS!!!!
>>78765590
same as most kids who go to 4chan to be that edgy cool faggot who gets attention by spouting memes and stuff because nobody knows them
I did that when I was 14 and mainly browsed /b/ and /a/ now I'm 21 and the only pages I browse are /fit/ /pol/ and /asp/(before it got bombed with wrestling autists)
>>78763342
SJWs
>>78763342
>Stopped smoking the herbal jew
>Worked 16 hours per day 6 days a week to keep scraps of food on the table
>Learned to do without, including running water because I didn't have enough money to get to work if I made repairs
>Broke my leg and didn't seek medical attention, went to work the next day on a handful of Vicodin and a shitty splint
>Never stopped taking opportunities to better my situation through hard work
>Borrowed a small sum of money from my grandparents to move myself and my wife across the country and paid it back
>Refused to buy anything I couldn't pay for up front
>Saw what multiculturalism actually brings in the form of people getting shot in the face for delivering food to the wrong neighborhood
>Basically, got to live the life of a nigger whilst being a straight white male, therefore reaping none of the benefits of being melaninly challenged
>>78765826
I don't agree with everything Molyneux says either, but the important point is that everything he uses is backed up with empirical, factual information. He doesn't attempt to go for the low hanging fruit or demean the other person's moral character. In an intellectual debate, of course you will find certain people's motives suspect (and perhaps be correct). But as the saying goes....not an argument.
>>78766056
>same as most kids who go to 4chan to be that edgy cool faggot who gets attention by spouting memes and stuff because nobody knows them
See, that's unfair, I mainly came to /b/ to fap to the loli threads.
Even being the edgy faggot I was, I never brought that shit into real life.
>>78766080
>melaninly challenged
This has potential
>>78763342
In a shorter answer than last time, being a Chridtian White male with any sense of pride. I believe in myself, my country, and my religion and therefore am opposed to the left in all ways
>>78763342
>Former lefties, what made you turn right-wing?
You mean initially?
The realization that the left censors well established facts to support their worldview.
That was the starting point.
>>78765949
That's not left at all, anon.
Learn2liberty
>>78763342
identity politics of the Democratic party began to infringe on basic freedoms.
I will vote right until the right begins to infringe on my basic freedoms.
>>78765847
I'm sure somewhere on the internet there is but I haven't bothered to look too much.
>>78763342
It became impossible to believe that the slightest interference by the white man was enough to turn niggers and muslims into chimps, yet the white man can handle all kinds of adversity.
Also I learned more about human nature and evolutionary psychology.
>>78763342
I got a job
>>78763598
>grocery store
Absolutely this. There is no greater redpill than seeing the thirtieth sheboon on a motorized cart with her 5 kids buy sodas abs frozen shrimp on ebt.
>>78766223
Yes, I know.
>>78765330
The people that tell you Atlas shrugged is a meme are normally leftists with no drive or ambition who cant read passed 400 pages. Also beautifully written, some parts could have been cut out because shit felt slow at times, but it is above all my favorite book. I have a huge laundry list of books i go through but I cant wait till The Fountainhead reaches the top and i read it
>>78766197
Exactly, he keeps the emotional appeals to a minimum and is wholly committed to consistency and actual evidence.
It's kind of sad that our standards have fallen so far though. Nowadays the left is so regressive that just being an honest person that doesn't lie for political brownie points is seen as something worthy of praise.
It's fucking awful what they've done to political (and even just regular social) discourse.
>>78763342
The bullshit.
It started in the early 2000s. Bush beating Gore, it seemed, did something to the liberals (especially with the whole "dimpled chad" thing in Florida). I think liberals assumed Bush got elected unfairly, so they decided that if the right-wing was going to cheat, the left-wing was going to cheat too!
Problem is I don't think the right wing ever cheated or particularly cared to.
So the left-wing simply corrupted itself, basically because they were sore losers.
DailyKos. 2002. MoveOn, 1998 but not really known until around 2002. DemocraticUnderground, 2001.
These were all sites meant to make left-wingers feel cool. The sites were mostly insipid attempts to corrupt people with disinformation. They would create misleading headlines, twist the truth and bet on people's laziness to not look too far into it.
I looked into it.
Every time Republicans did something that outraged me -- outraged because of what the article said -- I would look into it. And in every case I found out it was gross exaggeration. These loss of faith events beat me down until I decided left-wingers could not be trusted anymore and by making me do so much research, I came to like the right-wingers more, the more I learned.
So now I'm right-wing.
And I hate those motherfucking lying ass sons of bitches on the left wing with the power of a thousand suns.
>>78766202
>melaninly challenged
It's too clunky sounding with "melaninly".
Your mission is to shitpost alternatives til one sticks. Go forward Straya, and shitpost all you can.
>>78763342
a combination of dealing with SJW crap, moot reopening this place in 2012, and graduating college, getting a job and having to pay taxes
>>78763342
BLM niggerism made me realize whites have a shared ethnic interest that needs to be defended
started looking into nigger crime rates
holy shit no wonder so many are in prison
why are they committing so much crime
holy shit they have an average IQ of 85
what is going on here
oh, all the lies of human equality fell apart
>>78763342
>Former lefties, what made you turn right-wing?
Getting jumped by white trash because I was mexican
>Used to be left leaning, didn't see anything wrong with welfare/social or socialist programs
>Used to believe in privilege
>Even had a tumblr, but day after day reading posts there and on 4chan ridiculing them for shit like microaggressions
>All these tiers of privelege "oh you're not poc, you can't have an opinion here bye"
>Or "you're not marginalized, what you say doesn't matter, and I will attempt to ruin your life if you contradicts us"
Just got old, is all. I started visiting /pol/ and reading about people like Thomas Sowel, watching Stefan Molyneux's videos, and started supporting Trump.
It's been a long road, but I think I can sum it up this way: being on the right (and it is the right side) is not easy. You're beset from all angles by the most vocal elements of society.
But it's worth it, and it's why I keep going and keep learning.
>>78763342
>Former lefties, what made you turn right-wing?
the other lefties around me, in the media, and on the internet.
i used to be socially liberal and economically libertarian. but around five years ago, i started feeling alienated by other leftists and their increasingly contradictory arguments. some of their points that threw me off were:
>climate change is the most important thing! get rid of coal power plants as soon as possible!
>nuclear power is bad! muh fukushima! shut down all the nuclear plants!
>fuck the police! ACAB!
>we need even tougher gun laws! only the police can be trusted with guns!
>patriotism is, like, soo dumb! how can you be proud of things that other people did! that makes no sense, you stupid nazis!
>germans bear a historical responsibility and collective guilt for the horrible crimes against humanity they committed in the past!
>haha, look how stupid these dumb creationists are! dont they know SCIENCE and BIOLOGY? lol, american education xD
>all races are equal! race doesnt exist anyway, its just a social construct! IQ differences between races mean nothing, because IQ is just a meaningless number and all humans are equal!
it just kept going on and on and on, and whenever i researched one of those issues, i ended up with information that turned me even further to the right. now i'm so far off the right side of the political spectrum, i'd get jailed if i ever voiced my core beliefs publicly.
>>78766202
Ethnically challenged is another personal favorite
>>78766051
>you fence sitters ultimately have no say.
in the US we decide everything because neither the left or the right has enough votes to decide anything.
>>78764172
>self diagnose PTSD
Yeah, that pisses me the fuck off.
They've turned a legitimate mental health condition and its severe symptoms into a fucking clichéd term for "MUH FEELS!"
>>78766482
I never stopped believing in Human equality to an extent. Meaning that everyone should be judged equally. Nigs just do more bad shit on average and they should be treated equally to any person that does bad shit.
I've always been contrarian, but since leftists have such heavy political and academic clout, so much so that they are unchallenged at the highest levels of society and in the majority of my generation, I decided it was high time I became a #CruzMissle
>>78763342
I'm neutral and didn't care.
Then I stumbled upon r/the_donald (>inb4 rebbit) and am now here because of meme magic.
I've never laughed so hard as I have had the last few weeks than I have my entire life.
I still don't think my vote matters.
I don't think Trump is going to win (despite being the most popular) due to media control and large mass of people being sheep. (>inb4 hurr sheeple wake up xd!!)
I will probably kill myself soon.
>>78763342
>>78761539
> got any good stories?
Yah, I used to work at Papa Murphys take and bake pizza. Since they sell uncooked pizzas, it doesn't count as a restaurant, so they can accept foodstamps to sell raw pizzas. Sometimes people would buy the raw cookie dough with foodstamps and then they would eat it in our store while waiting while we made their pizza. We legally cannot let people eat the food in our store if they paid for it with foodstamps, so I got to kick them out and watch them get all butt hurt. Some coon family started physically posturing and yelling at me and I picked up the phone and pretended to call 911 and they ran the fuck out of the store so fucking fast...
>>78766381
This. My INTP-T personality doesn't lightly suffer blatant misinformation.
As soon as I started to realize the left was lying to further their narrative I burned that bridge.
>>78766381
What's funny about the whole Bush/Gore Florida recount thing was, Bush called for a whole state recount and Gore said fuck that just count the Dem controlled counties. If the whole state had been recounted, Gore would have won.
>>78763342
My hate of PC and an inspiration of American nationalism from my dad who was a sponsored immigrant from Laos.
>>78763342
I didn't change my views. The Democratic Party decided to change.
Gay rights and marriage? I don't have a problem.
Transgender rights? I don't have a problem. I supported transgendered people even before it was a Democratic Party platform, and when most of the country thought they were mentally ill people.
Then the Democrats decided to adopt identity politics and declare all white men the devils of society.
Then the Democrats abandoned all manners of civil discourse, declaring anyone they disagree with an -ist, -ism, or -phobe - regardless of what their opponent was saying.
Then other liberals - even ones I knew personally, who hold advanced degrees - opted for this intellectual and political laziness. Most did it just because it was easy and because no one came for them.
Liberals are now fine with their apparatchiks going after every group, so long as it isn't their own. I refuse to "step in line" until no one is left to help me.
Back in 2005, it wasn't wrong to hate Bush. The Iraq War was the biggest American foreign policy error in history. But it wasn't a sin to approve of gun rights, or to be a FUCKING WHITE MALE.
Rapidly, liberals and America started favoring censorship for political and social reasons - and stating anything against this, or even mentioning hard statistics, resulted in social lynching.
Most of /pol/ would call me a blue-pilled faggot, but I will sooner fight and die with conservatives than let liberals ruin society.
They no longer care about individual rights. They want collectivism, which is antithetical to the basic tenets of American society. It's not even commonwealth logic anymore; these psychos are blatant Borgs at this point.
Liberals now chant: war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength. The doublethink is terrifying.
God help us all.
Im an autist who likes memes and you guys have memes
Also it just makes sense
I was always like this I guess, just the world itself changed. During the Bush years somebody with the /pol/ general positions - (anti interventionist, anti globalization, free-market but not international neoliberal capitalist, pro free-speech, pro self determination) without the overt racism would be some kind of liberal. Now being this makes you right-wing.
Also during the time we grew up, left and right wing didn't make much sense in America. People didn't have any orientation of what it meant, seeing as Democrats and Republicans were not significantly different and the ways they differed didn't really align with traditional left/right differences.
The big thing that's happening now is the left/right difference is reasserting itself. We are now going to have communists and fascists fighting in the streets. The conflict of the 20th century which everyone thought was settled is coming back. I think the only reason people thought it was settled is that the wars were fought and US won and they didn't want to do it again so we let it lie. But those people are dead now.
I'm learning a lot of about 20th century history and I think it's very important, since our peers are ignorant of this or only know the accepted simplistic history given to them, but since they are ignorant we're going to fight the same conflicts over again in our lives. The older generation has failed to educate our generation in a way that would prevent it.
>>78763342
I had a woman as a boss..
The scales fell from my eyes pretty quickly at that point.
>>78766624
No is truly centrist unless they are complete autismos, people always lean towards either the right of the left. Like i said i but a lot of those living in Germany and in Russia thought the same as you before things changed
>>78766967
one*
>>78766734
>tries to memearrow mid paragraph
Step up son
>>78766782
>They no longer care about individual rights. They want collectivism
insight.
pc language is what clued me in. I can't say things they don't like to hear, because their feels are now more important than my freedums of speech. Stifling free speech kills the progress.
Watched news
Questioned news
Led me to Breitbart and info wars
Started using reddit to wake people up
Now I'm here also
>>78766749
Fellow INTP here. I have a suspicion we make up a large contingent of /pol/.
>>78763342
I read Terry Goodkind's novels.
>>78766967
I lean left on some social issues and hard right on economic ones.
but neither side represents me. That's not a special snowflake talking. If they have two platforms and you magically agree with every part of one of them then you're not a person anymore.
>>78766663
As a combat vet with PTSD, I thank you for that post.
Nothing is more infuriating (the PTSD doesn't help the anger) than some fat cunt behind a computer likening her fat greasy dumpster cunt feelings being hurt to my overactive limbic system.
I wish everyone of those garbage people on tumblr actually gets PTSD and all the joy that accompanies it.
Also, thanks, /pol/, for letting my offensive sensibilities run free. We are a last bastion of free speech. Never change.
>>78767100
I'm ISTP. I'm here because I love my freedoms and "liberals" want to take my freedoms.
>>78767030
PC language is literally just doublespeak bullshit.
I studied in the humanities but I have 1984, Brave New World, and Homage to Catalonia on my personal shelf.
Even at my liberal ass high school, we still read things like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, A Clockwork Orange, and 1984. Back then, we got the standard drivel about right-wing tyranny. All I could think about was how it easily go either way, and liberals were poised to become the monsters they despise in their endless quest for condescending superiority.
I was never really left wing in the first place, I didn't give a shit about politics and my social circle were all either the same or vaugely left. Colbert and Oliver made right wingers look like shit for years and gave the left a complete pass so I just assumed they were right. I thought they couldn't just go on network tv and tell lies.
I was happier before but it's better to know.
>>78767100
>Fellow INTP here.
>"I need tiger penis."
Is that what you are going on about?
You know that all of that Chinese witchdoctor bullshit doesn't work, right?
Working for a living, and paying taxes?
>>78766379
Its so irritating debating someone who thinks they have the moral high ground. Its so simple minded, it goes something like this:
*You Present le argument*
*Progressive hears a set of words of ideas that is critical to a particular group of people (See Microagression)*
*Triggering begins*
*Instinctual need to defend that group no matter what the fucking facts are*
*Declare you a racist, bigot, ignorant, not woke, just a dumbass redneck, etc.*
Example: Refugee Crisis
"Helping people from a war-torn area recover and have safety is of course a noble goal, however we need to be aware of the potential implications of this. Many of these refugees have cultural values that are not in line with secular western values, and as such we need to be cautious as we go forward with this. *Insert citation about Muslim Polls*. Furthermore, there is evidence from the Department of Homeland Security *insert evidence documenting this* that ISIS is using this as a route to go into the United States, and as such we need to be extremely careful. Perhaps a secondary course of action is to provide them with food and shelter in a region outside the warzone, but not halfway across the world?*
*Wow you clearly hate Muslims you ignorant bigot didn't you know all Muslims aren't terrorists if George Bush and his cronies didn't invade Iraq Isis wouldn't exist what ISIS does is the fault of the Bush administration this is our fault don't you feel bad for all the women and children dying?*
>>78767148
>I lean left on some social issues and hard right on economic ones.
lol, okay
>>78763342
The incompetency of Obama, particularly the bungled healthcare plan and his foreign policy (which was somehow even worse than Bush, a feat I considered impossible at the time).
Also the rise of SJWism. I could very clearly see that the left was moving towards outright, unfiltered hatred of free speech, whiteness, heterosexuality and masculinity.
I just couldn't keep siding with people who want to destroy this country, it's culture and my ethnic , gender and racial group.
>>78763342
About 15 years ago, now, I got into a conversation with some of my co-liberal friends. The topic was illegal immigration. I was profuse, I do not hate Mexicans or Mexican immigrants. That being said, Illegal Aliens were a different character. My family was in construction, they literally robbed us of jobs, and did shit-work, at that. The fact that they were illegal was a known quantity to all involved. This was around 9/11, too; If Mexicans could come over that border unhindered... couldn't other people? And hey, don't they have laws and rules about vaccinations for crossing into other countries? Couldn't they bring fucking Polio or something with them, since they're not being screened at the gate?
Basically, saying that the laws as written should be enforced, as written branded me a racist.
I became disillusioned.
Then 14 years later Trump was running for President and Bernie Sanders was an idiot who bowed his head while chimps stole his stage.
>>78767030
PC language is another pile of shit too.
Left-wingers created a minefield of "words you're not supposed to say" and turn themselves into an echo-chamber by ousting anyone who does or says anything they don't agree with.
Incidentally my favorite part of left-wing sites like DemocraticUnderground is watching the liberals destroy each other regularly. Some long time contributor will disagree with the party line on one issue eventually and blamo, that's it, they're out of the club.
"Liberals eat their own". If it wasn't for the fact that they rapidly indoctrinate young people, they would be extinct by now. They self-destruct so fast.
>>78763588
This. Single most influential event that changed all my political views, made me turn from hardcore democrat to republican / libertarian.
>>78766749
Yep, and I'm INTP too.
Always been left wing (albeit a bit libertarian on economics and never identifying as a progressive) but have never been a SJW that hates our culture and likes identity politics
Anyone else?
[spoiler]I think it's because I grew up poor, gay, black, and atheist in the inner city so I have been through too much shit to be a soft ass progressive [/spoiler]
>>78763342
Having to actually be around the niggers and feminists that I previously defended made me register for RWDS.
>>78767313
>Left-wingers created a minefield of "words you're not supposed to say"
That is only the left hook. The right hook is that they also want to control the definitions of the words that you CAN say, so that they can control all of the dialogue also.
Just look at what they've done with the word "racism."
>>78763342
/r/fatpeoplehate
srsly
It made me accept human nature, and that we're not evil for denying it.
Then it was just matter of watching the left go insane, watching blacklivesmatters, and healthy dose of /pol/
>>78767007
I mostly a /v/ and /vg/ shitposter, we still use maymay arrow mid paragraph. I'm not going to make a new line for you. But I will happily make a new post addressing this.
If it makes you feel better, I'll be dead this time next year.
always been closeted right, started realizing my lefty peers were actually devout of logic, also /pol btfo every lib argument
also pic related to left peers
#notanner
I'm a notanner
Cognitive dissonance. make it cool to not tan and be white, but then it might be seen as racist. If we make no tan a cool thing, then alls well.
if you see people tanning its regarded as them wanting to be of a darker colour. It puts black people on a higher status. It happens in Japan - no one wants to tan - and they don't like black people.
From here women will try and tan in secret to look more like niggers
It's a win win. White people stop tanning and aspiring to look like niggers, and then, because white people are trend setters on everything, people will realise that having dark skin isn't cool and something to strive towards.
>>78763342
My allegiance to the Left was because the Right were censorship heavy no-fun-allowed "ban what I don't like" meanie poopie pants.
That changed, and the Left became censorship heavy no-fun-allowed "ban what I don't like" meanie poopie pants.
Honestly my political affiliation isn't Right or Left, it's Trolling and Funposting.
First I was told I couldn't change the world, so then I wanted to change what was around me.
It became very obvious that my opinions were right wing in how to deal with others, when the SJW's rose and I condemned them. Suddenly what I said wasn't "liberal" enough.
The years went on and I searched every single claim /pol/ made, some bullshit, but too much wound up being truth. Why would I ever want to go back?
Although I became a nationalist, I'm still socialist.
Im not sure which side fascism is.
>>78766556
>i'd get jailed if i ever voiced my core beliefs publicly
Where you're posting from? Definitely
>>78767501
please don't kill yourself
kill yourself is just a meme man, everything is a meme.
just be yourself and find something you like to do that's not shitposting, don't give a fuck what other people think brah and don't get wrapped up in the future or the past
>>78767501
I post on /vg/ a lot and have never seen non-green green text desu. I wasn't requesting anything be fixed though.
ape abled
>>78767313
I don't know if it's indoctrination of the young, I think it's normal when you're young to think you have all the answers and the world owes you a living.
these are pretty leftist ideas.
when reality fails to deliver some people will move on and make something of themselves. These people will invariably resent the young that think they're entitled to part of their hard work. And the world keeps spinning.
>>78763688
Get enough History and Economics in you, find out that Bankers did it, and then welcome to /pol/ here is your complimentary soda and 8 year old.
>>78767599
It is my view that the Left/Right paradigm died off over a decade ago. Essentially, the "Left" has become the religious Right today.
Those on the "Right" are essentially all classical liberals who value free speech, free association, freedom of religion, etc..
Age, degeneracy and bleak way to see the world
>>78763342
Since the rise of the Tea party, I've become more and more liberal, except on immigration. I know you guys think racism is cool, and think you're edgy as fuck, but seeing shit like that IRL hasn't attracted me to the right.
Trickle down economics doesn't work, and the right is full of do as I say, not as I do bs. At least the left is full of SJW who realistically wield no political power, because they are too out there.
The right just scares the shit out of me. I went to a Trump rally, just to see how it was with some friends, and my Italian friend got harassed by Trumpers, because they thought he was Mexican.
Anyways, I'm off to sleep.
>>78767637
How's the redpill feel? It was weird to suddenly be told that my values weren't liberal, but they're literally the textbook definition of being a secular liberal.
I grew up and realized that you can't simply say 'yes' to everyone and everything. Compromises need to be made and people need to be told 'no'. At least, that's the fiscal side of it.
As far as the social side goes, they seem to be growing more fascist and authoritarian in belief by the day. It astounds me that these people can call themselves 'liberal' when all they same to want to do is curtail freedoms and suppress opinions that they disagree with.
>>78767785
Fucked if I know. I don't bother with the specifics. I just know that if Guy A says something and Guy B wants to ban it, I side with Guy A.
>>78763342
Working with socialists and niggers. Let me get this straight, I'm going to do all the work, create all the opportunities and take all the risk. Yet you fucking faggots think I'm not entitled to the success of profits that come from it? And you're going to be a cunty piece of shit the entire time?
I was a militant liberal two time Obama voter but actually being around these faggots makes me want to gas the entire left wing.
>>78767742
>I don't know if it's indoctrination of the young
Seriously? Are you being serious right now?
Is this guy being serious right now?
>>78767669
Fascism was born of socialism, and was considered a form of socialism by communists. But, it was offered up as a third way which accepted and rejected various aspects of both the left and the right.
You don't have to be a retarded /pol/ster to be against SJWs and be sensible on economics while knowing the dangers of ALL religion (Yes I know Islam is especially bad)
Most right wingers are just as fucking dumb and driven by identity politics but they just annoy me less because they're at least willing to hear opposing views and don't have a stranglehold on the media
But hey Trump is funny to watch at least so you have that going for you
Returning to college as a non-traditional student back in 2008 made me turn to the right. College is fucking blue-pilled, man. Crazy liberal professors with overt bias made me reevaluate my view.
Discovering Ron Paul running for president in 2007 was part of my reawakening to shift from libertarian left-wing view to radical right/NatSoc.
Now I fully support Trump for president. MAGA.
>>78767890
You are a classical liberal then, like many of us here.
Currently the woman I'm into is basically tumblr ideology incarnate with all the "I'm not racist but I hate white people" fucking meme. How does one go about red-pilling her? I want to save her /pol/, I really do.
The far left.
I realized that any disagreements I had with the right were shallow in comparison to the fact that the far left basically hates me as a straight while male.
>>78766734
Instead of kys like a faggot, get lifting your life will turn around
College.
When I learned that B & C average roasties were getting scholarships to do the STEM degree that I was working my ass off for
>>78767695
I dropped out of school to learn to paint and I can't even do that right. I've made a mistake, if I didn't I'd be making 2k a paycheck instead of my measly 300 from retail and 450 goes to bills every month. What I enjoy to do makes me angry and sad. Easier to just die than to waste life slaving at a entry level job.
Sure, I'm still young. But going back to school and finishing it, I'd be out at 28/30. Pursue art? I'd be someone competent in the same time. Can't get a loan for school because I owe a decent amount, can't pursue art because I need to find another job because of cuts.
But it's whatever I don't care. You shouldn't either. I'm just another shitposter.
Let's go back to posting memes all day and ignoring real life.
>>78763342
Work hard.
Start making more money, then realizing you want less taxes.
BLM, Obama, and race baiting liberals sent me way over the edge
>>78767827
>Trickle down economics doesn't work
Nobody believes it does. Literally nobody advocates "trickle down economics", it's a scarecrow invented by the left.
>my Italian friend got harassed by Trumpers, because they thought he was Mexican.
Your italian friend should go back to Italy.
>>78767290
>*Progressive hears a set of words of ideas that is critical to a particular group of people
I hate this shit so fucking much, and the worst part is that you can literally see it in their god damn faces.
>Whoa, he just said something RAYCIS, HOW DARE HE
You can pretty much predict what they'll say to a T once those hamster wheels finish turning.
But honestly, I hope people our age start waking up, but I'm not holding my breath.
Hell, looking at the results of the Brexit, people our age (in the UK at least) are still a small minority, and I can only hope the pendulum swings fast enough for some real change.
>>78767983
One little bit of truth at a time. Don't get drawn into debates. Just point out obvious fallacies as they appear and hope it all adds up. You have to do it in little pieces so they don't even realize it, because if a lefty detects that their beliefs are being challenged they will clam the fuck up like the bulkheads of a sinking ship.
>>78765452
>affect
it also has an EFFECT on you english grammar
>>78767212
You have a short description of what it's like living with it daily? My Grampa seen some shit in Vietnam but he has never said a word about what he did to anyone other than him being a SeaBee
>>78767983
Start challenging her views.
Dont go crazy. Just point out how she is wrong, when she gets upset dont apologize for being right. She will come around if you re strong. If she starts going mental the. She is crazy and will chop your dick off later in life.
>>78763342
What made me turn right was public schoolling in New York. Blacks are often dumb as hell, but it wasn't until going into NY and watching them go into school and from day one until the last day do absolutely fuck all, and STILL PASS, while other people have to struggle and grind.
What kind of a fucked up universe are we in where the non-effort of an illiterate teenage nigglet is equal to ten months of constant studying and cramming?
>>78768074
maybe you should move to germany, your story sounds familiar
one day you'll be dead for eternity, so give living a shot, friend, cause you don't get any more chances
>>78766745
im bumping this one.. It took me 10 minutes to remember the details of this one and type it out just for your enjoyment
I wouldn't say that I've become fully right-wing yet, but first it started as "If conservatives are viewed as ignorant racists, then why are there so many of them?"
Then I did research, hung out around here and my thinking has shifted rightward with regards to immigration and Islam.
When will Islam have their Nicene Convention? Christianity had one, Judaism (might've) had one, so they're the last ones.
>>78767212
>>78763342
I turned nationalistic. I still believe in muh roads but without nationalism they will be full of potholes.
>>78767599
>i dont give a shit about politics, i'm just here for the shitposting
t. proud australian
>>78767983
I usually come at it from the "tough love bleeding heart" angle as I call it.
Bring up the issues of the black community that exist internally, such as the disparity between black on black violence versus others.
Express your concern for their future if this violence continues. Slowly integrate the ideology of interior cultural decay. If you can subtly continue this discourse without reprisal, research African societies and their failings without whites and cite them.
Priori numero uno is information. If you can sling enough federal statistics at her while expressing a deep concern for your fellow man, she, with a little luck, will eventually start to realize the black community is doomed from a plague of nigger culture.
>>78767975
I can't be.
I think slavery can be beneficial for both master and slave, e.g. if the master is compassionate and the slave is stupid or irrational and bad at long-term decision making.
Slavery is also incredibly sexy when it's slavery of a girl for the purposes of reproduction.
So that's the opposite of liberty.
I'm not right winged now, but /pol/ stopped me from being a commie. Now I"m a social libertarian, fiscally center-left. Not necessarily right wing, but I am a lot more thoughtful now than back when I would try to justify Ferguson riots and USSR travesties.
>>78768138
SeaBees are based AF. Always make friends with them.
>>78768133
>>78768179
thanks lad will do
>tfw always been right and have only gone further
Anti porn raid bump, go around and bump on topic threads real quick.
>>78768279
My other main boards are /v/ and [s4s]
though lately I've been going on /tg/ a lot because they're really easy to troll. Just say you support fetishes or you support minmaxing (playing a game to win) and they get all mad.
>>78768290
>I think slavery can be beneficial for both master and slave
Australians always ruin eerything.
>Oh look, another classical liberal who values freedom!
>classical liberal camaraderie abounds
>"Oh, by the way, I loves me some good slaves!"
Why do they always ruin everything?!
>>78767212
>>78766663
Glad I'm not the only one this pisses off.
In my opinion, those who self diagnose should be required by law or by force to undergo treatment for what they claim to have. That shit would stop right quick.
>>78768289
>>78767983
thanks for this too
>>78763342
OTHER LEFTIES
>>78765452
I was 18 when I first started browsing 4chan in 2004, so I'm a good boy
>>78768138
My biological processes for detecting danger are all fucked up, basically. I almost never relax, anxiety eats at me constantly. When threatened, I often overreact to dominate the situation to regain control of it.
Trouble sleeping, nightmares, night terrors. I threw an ex off her bed and spear tackled her closet because I thought an AQ militant was over her bed with an AK.
I'm paranoid as fuck and have difficulty trusting anything I can't confirm, and also find it difficult to project long term goals as my mind is so rooted in the here and now.
tl;dr it's a shitshow and I smoke weed a lot.
>>78766341
Books as the ultimate meme?
>>78768230
Judaism changed in 70ad, but was really always interpretive since Abraham argued with God, and got a concession. Catholicism was always interpretive, for different reasons, and the Protestant reformation was a break from their liberalism.
Islam can't be interpretive, Mohammed was the final prophet. What's worse is, there's no history to the Koran. The Suras are organized from the longest to the shortest. So the earliest ones about genocide have equal weight to the newest ones about peace, there is no continuation or growth presented, nor can it be interpreted in.
>>78763342
For me: sheer logic and reason
All the philosophy, emotion, and ideology that's associated with politics is simply the flesh built on the bones of the underlying data
Learning the facts of economics was enough to transform me from a left wing environmentalist to a right wing libertarian. Learning the facts on race was enough to transform me from a libertarian to an alt-righter. In every case after new data is assumed, a new model is built upon that data, almost always drawing a logical path from the data to the final ideological conclusion
For example, for a long time I held the view that trees, old forests, and untouched natural wilderness was sacred. I told a girl in my class (who I kinda liked) that I thought we shouldn't destroy forests to cut down trees. She said quite simply "but trees are a renewable resource". I stopped short, fishing for a retort, but then I realized she was right. Trees and vegetation grow back like grass
I was persuaded of free market principles under false pretenses (as I'm sure many Conservatives are). I basically looked into which economies did better, capitalist or socialist. Obviously the capitalist economies won that battle, and that was enough to convince me of the validity of the logic behind the free market mechanism. What I wasn't told then was that the tremendous gaps in wealth I had ascribed to socialism were in fact due to genetic differences in populations
I was convinced of this quite simply, when someone pointed out to me that there's plenty of liberal areas that are nice, and do just fine for themselves. I had at that point a lot of trouble fitting Denmark and Sweden into my "socialism = poverty" model, and had explained it away with libertarian BS (hurr durr they are free market they're just a little bit socialist in certain areas). Once you realize that wealth correlates with race, everything clicks. All of a sudden I can explain why socialist Sweden is wealthy and peaceful while anarchist Somalia sucked
>>78767983
>How does one go about red-pilling her?
With a boot to the ass.
When you date someone into social justice, you date someone who hates not just you, but everything about you and everything you stand for. Your skin color. Your clothes. your music. your hair. Your gender. The way you talk. The words you say. The pronouns you say are a big one. Anything and everything you do is, in their mind, a crime against women and blacks (because somehow only blacks are people of color to them, asians, italians, natives, etc don't exist)
Run.
The Democratic party became more corrupt than ever. Ground zero for NWO. Got really sick of the SJW crap and anti-white working class attacks.
I was always conservative on immigration, so it's easy to like and support Trump. I'm a Trump Republican.
>>78768314
Always true, Grampa is meanest fucker I know. He beat some dudes to death after he got out of the Navy. Good stories but theyre long and I'm lazy
>>78763342
I'm still not sure i'm right wing.
I've read both left and right wing stuff and see that both have good intentions but fuck up the execution.
The thing that pushed me here is that leftism is like a cool show with a horrible funbase, while you guys are fun to listen to.
>>78768733
This is why when I argue with someone, I sweep all the philosophical bullshit aside and just start arguing facts.
I know if I can convince them to accept the data, they will automatically form opinions in concordance with mine (assuming they think logically). The alt right knows this is how you do it, you've gotta redpill people to convince them.
>>78763598
Dale?
>>78768635
Thanks for sharing, do you have therapy sessions or do they basically tell you it's your problem deal with it?
>>78764412
Reported to your African studies prof
>>78768940
If his VA shrink was like my VA shrink, he got offered meds.
I'm not turned all the way right. I'm more of a centrist independent.
>>78768690
So they're really stuck in a kinda permanent bind until Jesus comes? How pitiable, in a way.
I'm so glad to read some of these stories. I've only been red-pilled for about a year so I'm still not as educated or knowledgeable on things as some of you but I know where I stand now.
for me, 3 things:
1) Ron Paul: He was a republican who shattered my worldview on what republicans are. Following various RP pages and videos I learned more about what it meant to be conservative and though I still considered myself "independent" then I became a "left-leaning libertarian" kek
2) getting a job. Well, I really started to hate leftism here because all the things that liberals instated to help working people I saw first hand how they fucked them over. I can't even begin to tell you the shit I experienced over those 2 years working manual labor. THEN, at the end of my work week, I'd look at my paycheck, about ~280 dollars, with something like 70$ taken away for taxes. I REALLY could have used that money.
At this point I was more right-leaning libertarian.
Third, Trump.
I mean, I saw him first on Daily Show and Colbert and following the words of the head Jew I hated him and just his name triggered me.
Eventually, he started to win primaries and I hated Sander/Clinton so I thought "well shit, lemme see who I'd rather vote for since Rand Paul isn't."
I looked up Trump and his policies and read speech transcripts and had a realization: everything the news media said about him was wrong. He was against interventionist foreign policy and had a good stance on everything else. It was like Ron Paul all over again for me.
Then I saw the debates. Holy shit this guy was a master of bantz, gave no fucks and everything he said (almost) I agreed with.
Somewhere along the lines I re-discovered /pol/, as before I only sometimes browsed and engaged in shitty trolling.
The Trump memes and following flood of redpills and research solidified my political nature.
>>78763342
Ron Paul Revlovelution
>>78769093
I just want to say don't completely disparage liberal cucks. Many of them just don't see the light. Present your evidence, post your memes and keep putting out the information.
Among the masses of CTR shills and berniebots, there's /pol/acks and patriots that can be awakened.
>>78764798
This desu.
>>78763342
Interacting with other leftists over a long period of time. Also learning marxist tricks and realizing how disgusting and deceptive they are
>>78763342
Legal immigrant told me how unlimited jewish immigration destroyed her homeland.
Before that I was like
>Oh yeah but muh crusades was also bad
>>78763467
Atlas Shrugged is the biggest crocks of horseshit and is literally one of the pillars of degeneracy in the 21st century.
I was a left leaning centrist until I got kicked out of private school and had to spend a year in an all black inner city public school, in the year since I graduated from there I've transformed to become almost completely far right
Im leftist, but morals and traditional values are important me. Constitutional Monarchy when?
>>78768940
I've done therapies of different kinds along with all sorts of medications. The problem is that the VA corners the market on combat-related illness and treatment while providing sub-par care for them.
Understanding the nature of it helped me more than any of the regression therapy and retelling and writing out all the bad shit from Iraq.
Also the pills they put me on fucked me up bad. I woke up in the hospital cuffed to a bed on one cocktail they gave me.
22 veterans a day take their own lives, my biological brother and two service brothers are included in that number.
It might be too much Alex Jones but I don't really go to the VA anymore unless I have to. Smoking weed has honestly helped me adjust more than the government's suicide pills ever could.
>>78767785
Underrated
>>78766202
>pigmentation orientation
grew up in a working class house with parents who tnvh probably should have been voting Dem but were very religious and conservative in genera
go off to college, it was a private catholic college but we were unfortunately situated between downtown and a large black ghetto
property crime was rampant during my college days, there was some violence but not that bad. most of the ghetto folk realized that it was not worth it to physically harm the whites on campus
during undergrad and after I had a job at a nonprofit lawfirm helping poor blacks, this is when I started to turn. while I can fully recognize that there are poor stupid whites in my state, dealing with the literal retardation of inner city blacks, and watching the lib whites treat these clients like children, got to me.
I moved to the public defenders office during law school. I expected more of the same but found attorneys unwilling to kiss these poor idiots' asses. they worked far too hard and put in too many hours to buy the shit that these nogs spewed all the time. I was called a racist so many times, it now roles off my back.
through it all I still swallowed the narrative of oppression and racism being the problem. But its not. these people are poor bc their individual failings, there is no conspiracy. In fact, there's a whole army of people who try to help, but they don't want help, they want gibs.
nails in the coffin were the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown cases. anyone could see these kids as fucking punks, but they had excuse after excuse laid out for their behavior
basically, I got older, more responsible, somewhat more wealthy, and tired of no one taking any responsibility for themselves
>>78768929
>This is why when I argue with someone, I sweep all the philosophical bullshit aside and just start arguing facts.
that's my approach as well. it usually ends with them calling me names.
>oh my god you're so cruel!
>how can you say that! do you not have any empathy?
>wow you must be a really hateful sociopath if you think like that!
>oh god how can you be such a heartless and cold person!
it might be a more successful with americans, but with germans this leads precisely nowhere.
>>78765007
>Its horrifying we are living 1984 bros we are the book we are the movie.
I read Fahrenheit 451 a few months ago. I think it captures our world much better than 1984.
>The people demand not to be offended, so anything offensive is censored/destroyed by the government
>Everyone has the same indoctrinated beliefs, and panic/break down into tears when their views are questioned
>People obsess over trivial shit like the latest TV shows, and try to pretend their nation isn't falling apart
It's insane how much it gets right.
The craziest thing is that it's being taught in American schools as an anti-fascism book. The author himself has said that it's not about fascism, but the general consensus between (((intellectuals))) is that the author is wrong.
I forgot to share my reasons for hating the left these days.
1) Identity politics. I hate political correctness and the so-called social justice movement with a burning passion.
2) The left's unrealistic goals and their implementation. None of their shit ideas will EVER work.
3) As far as American politics goes, both the Democratic and Green parties are corrupt and hypocritical.
The left is a lost cause.
>>78763342
I found /b/ because I was debating Jews on Palestine on youtube in the comments about 05-06. In the comments section I watched them rally against me, going to other videos to bring other Jews in to report me and pollute the discussion - white phosphrous. Then my account got hacked and my real information including address was put on yt account public description somehow(even though I purposely kept it anonymous.) it was a (((weird coincidence))) that made me look into the JQ more. Anyway there was a guy called cpotato that ran jew watch who was being harassed with videos by lefty anons who mentioned posting their video on encyclopedia dramatica. I spent about 3 months poring over ED before coming to /b/ in 07.
Any way, next came Ron Paul's 08 campaign, I was a /b/ tard when moot flooded /b/ with it - I was also watching a lot of Alex Jones at the time semi-mockingly.
I move from centrist to libertarian to nationalist - still unsure about socialism.
Thanks mootykins.
>>78763342
Growing up
being on /pol/ too much
realizing that group dynamics exist for a reason
understanding why tradition matters.
I used to shitpost on /pol/ all the time and make fun of anti feminists and racists
I came here strictly for the happenings. I had a tumblr at the same time and started seeing the actual delusion of liberals. Seeing the memes come out of people's keyboard unironically started getting under my skin. it took a couple of years
Then the migrant crisis is when i did a complete 180. i actually used to be pro immigration. Now I'm vehemently anti immigration
>>78763342
Here's something fun to do to progressives. Ask them to explain to you why something they always bitch about is morally wrong. I've found they can never do it.
>das rayciss!!!
Why is racism wrong?
>it just is!!
No, like explain to me what's wrong about it?
They can't do it.
I've done lots of reading and other research on right-wing philosophy and history, but what started me on the path was just seeing the kind of people who choose each.
People with right-wing values are consistently the kind of people I want to have as friends and neighbors. They're more likely to be the kind of people I want to find running a local business or government office, just because I see how responsibly they handle their own affairs. They're not all perfect - in fact, there are some real shits out there - but the trend is clear. In contrast, liberals are more likely to be good for smoking weed and not much else. I don't like the way they handle their personal affairs. There are good ones, some of them are my friends, but the trend is clear.
Moreover, as I've started living those values my own life has improved. It's not where I want it to be yet, but I'm better off than I've ever been.
>>78765378
How come there aren't any female dictators on this list?!?! SHITLORDS!
I demand gender equality in mass murder!
Obama. Voted for him in 2008 and watched him betray every promise he made that I cared about. Made me realize all the things I thought I hated about republicans were just things I hated about politicians.
>>78769294
Stay strong, none of us could really understand it but we still appreciate you for defending our right to post in this Argentinean Bass Fishing board.
>>78765449
Hey cool, that bird's wings look like snakes.
The Baltimore Chimpout, The cuckening, and obnoxious progressives were my gateway.
A combination of watching my (now ex) best friend go full tumblr sjw (is now a "nonbinary" otherkin sjw with like 10 self diagnosed disorders who lives in my guest room and mooches off my family) and how poorly most media handled the Mike Brown case
>>78769237
>leftist
>monarchist
that's even more contradictory than "left libertarians" or those "national socialism is socialism and therefor leftist" loons
how the fuck do leftism and monarchism make sense together? please explain, i can't make sense of it
Life experience, SJWs running wild, the migrant crisis in Europe, Black Lives Matter, and the 2016 election cycle.
>>78763342
Critical thinking kept me sceptical of the narrative at all times, and finding answers to the resulting questions pulled me away permanently from the left.
Though to be fair, being left was just a meme for me so I could fit in with the crowd.
>>78769490
>understanding why tradition matters.
This is a big one. I think ego plays a big part in it and is a good indication of why most young people are left leaning. It's a safe form of rebelliousness, they want to feel like they know better than their parents and grandparents. It's easy to find a group of people your age who all agree that conservative values are dumb because mum and dad are meanies.
At least if anything I just said is true then most of them will grow out of it. A big part of my maturing was realizing that I'm not the smartest person around and that old traditions and wisdom have endured for a reason.
>>78765378
Pol Pot looks a lot like Kahn in that pic.
The horror that is abortion.
Someone showed me mutiple processes and I thought it was terrible.
>>78769603
This, obama made me a Republican.
It was mostly just starting watching anti sjw videos and it was kind of a slippery slope.
>>78769654
Thanks bro. I've found my quiet place in a sense, and no longer think about deepthroating a shotgun every day.
Now I'm just here, quietly and patiently waiting for the next crusade. If the race war breaks out first that's cool, too.
>>78763342
I took the iron pill.
Liberals have metric for what equality is, or progress, or any of it. Nor can a single one of them cite where their legal basis for equality stems from, not without getting extremely religious.
They all think morality is subjective yet adhere to an atheistic/Abrahamic universalist religion where they spend all time persecuting people for wherever their goal post moving Facebook ordained objective morality decrees.
they don't lift.
And they fetishize other cultures based on their melanin content in what results in extreme racism that would make a Klansmen blush yet they're completely oblivious to it.
>>78766388
Indian skin
because poo is brown and niggers are brown
>>78764244
Mass indoctrination
>>78763342
What made me go right-wing was the concept introduced to me that no one should be able to lay claim to what someone earns or creates.
>>78769547
That reminds me of a small discussion I had with a co-worker lately over dems vs reps on the poor.
I put forward that being pro-business and low taxes help the poor because it brings jobs and money saving opportunities for scaling up the ladder.
He gave me the speel about how dems give welfare and if people had free college they could rise with that.
I pointed out how democratic areas are usually the poorest, and if you wanted to advance, you needed money beyond welfare, and the wealthiest areas are usually republican.
earlier he sad something like "you gotta go where the money is and the dems give the poor money" and I pointed out how if you want to go where the money is you go republican and the conversation sort of stopped there.
It's true. Republicans largely tend to be the people you want to be associated with.
>>78763342
I am an a hispanic immigrant, from Venezuela. That should tell you a lot, but honestly, I was pretty fucking lefty for a while. Not gonna go into my life story, but basically, I was two things in my teenage years: a gamer, and an atheist. Not the fedora kind, I never really brought the subject up, but still. At that time, I always felt the right wing as evil. They were the crazy christians, they were the ones who wanted to hang the gays, they were the ones censoring video games, or anything that didn't fit "muh Jesus". The left was the hero, they were the benevolent ones, they were the kind ones, the free ones. Then I came to America. At that point, I was convinced that Socialism failed in my country because Latinos are uneducated criminal scum. I felt that the left held so much promise in a civilized country like this. Then it started. The left became everything I hated about the right. They started labeling whites as evil. Christians suddenly were monsters. Not just a few bad apples with a big audience, suddenly a BILLION people were evil. Suddenly America was evil. Suddenly, we needed to let every fucking criminal from Caracas into this paradise because of muh feelings, while I waited 13 YEARS on a fucking list to get here. They became the enemies of freedom. Then I started reading more and more. I came across Yuri Bezmenov. Gamergate happened. etc. I realized the left really was malevolent. They can act kind. They can put up a happy face. But they are slimey bastards. I hated them. All of them. I still do. Un-American scum. The number of fucking pampered faggots who hate this country enrages me. Go to fucking Saudi Arabia and suck Muslim dick before you get stoned, you whore! GO TO FUCKING VENEZUELA AND SEE SOCIALISM IN ACTION! GO TO ANYWHERE SOUTH OF TEXAS AND SEE WHAT KIND OF ANIMALS LIVE THERE! CIVILIZED PEOPLE ARE SCARSE IN THOSE PARTS! I love America. I don't give a shit what my passport says, this is my nation. MAGA
>>78763342
Mainly SJWs and feminists on Tumblr, Reddit and YouTube. Seeing their hypocrisy and stupidity made me wake up
Gender Identity politics fucking up my vidya, SJWs and their sheer hypocrisy.
>>78763342
When can we finally raise the minimum voting age to "30". So that way a lot of degeneracy can be avoided, for several elections to come?
