>>78739713
based. fuck trees.
>>78739713
lots of it happening in canada
>>78739713
Destroy every single tree and leaf until not a single lizard can survive in the desert we once called Earth.
>>78739713
honestly i'd rather have a big forest than some shitty rundown neighborhood full of dickheads, so no, don't "de" the forests
>>78739713
It's a bad third world-tier method of resource extraction. Fortunately it is all but ceased here in the US now that companies finally figured out that tree farming is far more profitable in the long term.
Kill those who desecrate the earth.
>>78739713
>thing that breed fucking leaves
destroy them all.
>>78739794
Because they're made of money.
And newsflash.....they grow back.
Environmentalism is the real red pill.
Globalist reptilian fucks want to commoditize everything and absolutely nothing is sacred. But we should want to preserve nature.
Earth has a spiritual significance, especially for the white race. It does seem like only white people really appreciate nature.
>>78740004
Allahu Akbar
>Gotta make room for more brown people
Fuck no.
>>78740033
>And newsflash.....they grow back.
Only if you do it properly (i.e. no fucking clear cutting.)
>>78740004
What does a man yell when killing in the name of Kami-sama?
>>78739713
You know, trees grow back retard
>>78740033
I was hinting more at the fort mcmurray fire
>>78740151
This is true. Environmentalism is fairly traditionalist as well. In my case it was my environmental beliefs that helped me to become a fascist.
>>78740151
This.
Preservation of nature is a white trait.
Cut them down. Plant more trees. Trees grow back. They are literally an infinite resource.
Worked as a tree planter in Canada. Thanks to all the stupid retarded hippies they ruined the logging industry. Also it's by law that you have to replant the trees that you cut.
>not supporting the industry of a material that's already biodegredable
Also the meme of cutting trees destroys the environment is pretty dumb. Even your stupid hippy natives burned down forests to help bring in new plant life and meadows which bought in more different wild life.
I fucking hate hippies so god damn much
>>78740892
Also would like to add that recycling is worse than using paper products. Fucking retarded hippies, I swear.
>>78740892
Clear cutting leads to soil degradation you fucking idiot. This is basic ecology.
>>78739713
Cut em down grow them back.
>>78740440
Trees are a renewable resource. That is true. There is nothing wrong with consuming lumber produced in Canada and Russia. What is genuinely bad is land clearance in Brazil, Indonesia and Africa. The difference is that the forests being cleared in tropics are old growth forests that are rich in biological diversity. Biological diversity is a precious resource that will be harnessed in the future as biotech becomes more advanced. The technology of the future will be based on biochemistry. Think of the Evangelions, half-machine, half organism. Evangelion technology may depend on unique proteins produced by yet-to-be discovered species of frogs and mushrooms living in old growth forests.
>>78739713
It's cheaper to plant three trees for everyone cut down. 20 years after cutting one down, you got three the same size to cut down. Replace each with three, in 40 years you'll have 9 trees.
Only niggers don't realize this. Hence why Brazil is raising hell in the Amazon.
>>78739713
as long as we can find a way to sequester c02 better than them i don't give a shit. Fuck the environment, we need all of this space.
>>78741042
And overgrown trees that block sunlight for bushes and smaller plants that provide food for animals is bad as well you cretin. Go back to your (((earth science classes)))
When the last tree is cut down, the last fish caught, and the last river poisoned, we may then realize we can't eat money.
>>78739713
More trees, less room for stupid fucks.
>>78741139
It's not just lumber.
Timber isn't the real value in Brazil it's the cleared dirt.
They use it to crop soybean and palm for oil. Massive returns for them.
>>78741042
Actually clear cutting is a widely used way to regenerate forest.
It's done all the time.
Only real problem with clear cutting over here is, that it takes 40 years for blueberries to return to those regions.
That's about it.
>>78741214
Plants on the forest floor are well adapted to such conditions. Even so, big trees don't live forever.
>>78741614
A bunch of dead trees still block sunlight from coming through.
>>78739713
The problem is, is that tropical forests are a little more than important than what they appear. They have profound influence on the atmosphere above them, and I don't mean that in terms of climate change. The entire weather patterns of South America, Africa and South East Asia are dependent upon them, due to emissions of VOCs and other things that act as CCN. They're the site where a lot of shit in the atmosphere ends up due to air movements and troposphere porosity, and it's the vegetation below which is crucial for removing that stuff.
I wouldn't cut it down, even though it's frankly a disgusting habitat stuffed with vile creatures, but because fucking with it might have ridiculous effects on systems that we have no idea about.
>>78741697
Are you a scientist?
>>78741465
That depends entirely on what you are trying to accomplish. Clear cutting can help certain species gain a foothold in areas that they would not normally be able to do so. However the fact remains that it still does harm the soil quality and thus should be done sparingly and over time.
>>78740033
>And newsflash.....they grow back.
Not quite mate. The soil gets fucked seven ways from Sunday during extraction.
>>78741115
The regrowth is equally as good if they properly replenish the ground (forestry infrastructure tends to destroy areas for very long times). Just think of how beneficial forest fires are
>>78741742
No, I'm just a guy who worked in the tree planting industry and planted 100,000 trees. And also I've talked with many people about the industry.
>>78741742
>polish
>scientist
>>78739713
My thoughts are sad thoughts, OP.
>>78741465
It usually destroys diversity in the forest too, trees and bushes etc
There are literally over 3 trillion trees on Earth. That's about 400 trees per person.
>>78741874
>Just think of how beneficial forest fires are
Abo on holiday detected
>>78739713
Kill Humans! Plant trees!
> tfw you want the first and not the second.
A bigger contributor to climate change than westerners owning cars.
>>78741912
Arent Polish forests a place where teenagers with hammers serial kill women?
>>78741933
Can you really blame any Pole wanting to be a scientist after many times in history Polish scientists were ethnically cleansed?
>>78742116
I worked in Canada.
>>78741734
If the global temperature is rising like you environmental cucks say it is, then reducing the size of the rain-forests can only be beneficial to human life
>>78740004
He said, as his countrymen slaughtered a whale
>>78740864
Until the soil is ostriches of nutrients, and nothing grows I know farmers grow different vegetable every other year just for that purpose. Trees eventually do the same thing top roots suck out the nutrients. Eventually if trees don't grow long and deep enuff they dry that pussy up and turn it to a wasteland pussy. Pussy. Pussy pussy. Mmmmmm pussy w
There's more trees now than ever before
>>78740151
Absolutely
>>78740440
>>78740033
>>78740440
>>78740864
Some trees in tropical rainforests literally take hundreds of years to grow back. That's hundreds of years worth of carbon fixation thrown in the garbage. It's not like three months pass and no harm was done.
>>78742217
Please explain your reasoning.
>>78742671
Actually trees are most efficient at removing pollutants while young since they go through growth spurts and don't smother shrubs, flowers, weeds, etc
>>78739713
Cut down a tree, plant a tree.
That should be a global policy. That and enforce a one child per family law in all third world countries
>>78742217
I didn't say anything about temperature you idiot. And I'm the furthest thing from an environmentalist, my career is in hydraulics which eventually led to measuring methane emissions from North Sea wells in order to cut down on waste, and then on to developing instrumentation to measuring methane measurements above tropics.
Did you know that all our natural methane sources are eventually transported the tropics, where hydroxyl radicals decompose it? And that said hydroxyl radicals are dependent upon water vapour, which in itself is regulated by vegetation?
Fact is mate it's pretty fucking scary how dependent basic atmospheric functions are so linked to vegetation, and how small changes to said vegetation fucks up things. Let me reiterate, I have zero issue against commercial logging, except in the tropics where it's impossible to replant afterwards.
>>78740383
>Only if you do it properly (i.e. no fucking clear cutting.)
Canada has been clear cutting and replanting for over 90 years.
So long as you do replant, trees are a renewable resource.
>>78739713
>paying 3rd worlders 1 bread per 1 football field of 200 year old trees, selling each for 100000 dollars.
Thoughts? USA fucks up whole world, because capitalists are evil Jesus retards.
>>78743309
Most deforestation in the tropics occurs because farmers are trying to get more land for grazing and/or planting. It has nothing to do with lumber.
>>78741988
Perfect. Takes about 400 trees to build a house.
>>78739827
lizards live in the desert too though
>>78743448
Question is why are they needing more fields, because crop is worthless. We also throw most of crops away once they get sold to distributing intermediary capitalistic retards, just so they can keep prices high, then those same people cry how Africa has no money and how they need to cut down even more. Then there is that other thing with bio fuel, where you cut down all forests and plant palms from which you get bio fuel, get it? It's bio, because we cut down forests and reduce some exhaust.
Pave The Rain Forest
>>78740151
Using the lands resources is not a globalist reptilian conspiracy fuckhead. This has been going on since the beginning of time. It depends on how you do it.
>>78744062
Humans have never had the capacity to extract 100% of any given resource until very recently. Your appeal to tradition won't work here I'm afraid.
>>78739713
Obviously it gets out of hand in 3rd world countries...
But in Australia and most of the West, forestry is highly regulated and very well run, so that everything is replaced and not much of significance is taken away.. Still the greenies are VIOLENTLY opposed to it, they never allow any compromise.
USE MORE WOOD.
>>78744927
this, it's not a problem anymore in civilized countries, everything is replaced
also drive around the eastern US some time, trees fucking everywhere
>>78740151
>Environmentalism
Yes, its part of the red pill, but nothing even closely related to modern environmentalism (that goes for the last half a century of green movements).
If you want the real red pill on environmentalism, learn from people like Teddy Roosevelt.
Man is part of nature and can easily find compromise between exploiting and nurturing it. Modern greenies do not allow for any compromise.
>>78739713
Cutting down trees is fine.
But we need to keep forest around. It's important that we protect them.
>>78739713
Makes the world uglier
>>78744927
This. Manhattan apartments are trending now with rooftop gardens, little gardens literally up along the side. And massive parks are in place in and around NYC. But I guess in third world countries its pretty bad. I saw a documentary on how fucked up Brazil and Russia did stuff just to prepare for Olympics and World Cup.
>>78745167
One of the problems is that said balance is impossible with the number of people living here.
We need a way to control population.
>>78747433
Agreed. But modern environmentalists will tell you that the 1st world is the problem, when its actually the 3rd world. Until we accept that, nothing much can change.
Its like how we try to fight the illegal wildlife trade but never dare mention C H I N A and how its responsible for basically all of it. There's no chance of stopping it until we do.
>>78747715
Nah m8, colonialism is totally the guilty of the extinction of species like gorillas (lets disregard jungle niggers that kill them between war and war to EAT them).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-S-1CzYN8
Actually tho, China is a fucking cancer to this planet (in many aspects) that should be reconducted or extirpated.
>>78748703
Modern environmentalists are more concerned with confiscating and destroying 500yo works of art carved into ivory then even thinking about China and the modern trade they drive.
>>78747433
Zika virus
>>78739713
unnecessary
only happens because people are stupid
Not needed at all
>>78739713
New Forest grows everywhere thanks to humans.
Deforestation is a big lie, except in the poor countries.
In North America there is more forest now than before the first whites set foot on the continent.
Europe's forests are also growing and are more healthy than ever in the billion years of evolution.
Also: When humans create or regrow a forest, the plants will be much more diverse, animals have more space and the trees will be healthier.
Even if people in South America destroy their forests now, the stuff that regrows will be better in 100 years.
So don't fall for the ((( activists' ))) lies to extract your donation dollars.
>>78749154
>confiscating and destroying 500yo works of art carved into ivory
pls tell me this isn't real
>>78749485
Brazil is the lesser evil compared to China in terms of population and destruction.
It's a shame.
Urbanization leads to liberalism and loss of religion.
Fuck any 'right winger' who thinks fucking the environment is in our interest. We should all be about preserving our land as much as our culture.
>>78739713
There's more trees in the US than there were 100 years ago.
Most our oxygen is produced by marine plankton anyway.
>>78749600
Its real alright
Also checked
>>78739713
PROGRESS CAN'T STOP BECAUSE OF DUMB TREES!!!
Test
>>78749906
The most dirty and filthy countries are the ones claiming to do what you say.
Only wealthy people can care about the environment.
Only rich people can build their stuff out of stone and heat with cheap electricity or natural gas and not rely on wood for both.
And:
>fucking the environment
is in the best interest of humans. Nature is dangerous.
Stuff that does not serve humans or is utilised by us does not create wealth. Without wealth you cannot create the environment you wish for.
>>78739713
since I literally build the machinery that destroys forests, I say cut em all the fuck down asap!
>>78742671
Wait wait, I thought it was the trees in boreal forests that take hundreds of years to grow back, and the rainforest trees were the ones that recover in 3 months.
Jesus christ theres a lot of black and white statements here. And some dumb ones. Its all multi-factor grey area shit, ie forestry is botany, hydrology, ecology, policy etc. all combined in diffetent ratios, depending on the job.
look up sere, succession, r-k selection, all in the ecological context.
Or look at aerial of hati and dominica, notice the land cover and look up their historical land management policies.
>>78739713
Not an issue. Go on google earth, there's still a fuckton of trees.
>>78739713
Absolutely fuckin barbaric, I live in rural AK because I greatly value family and nature over god damn city bull shit
>>78739713
I don't get why they can't just use tree plantations for literally all wood. I am not even a hippy, it just seems like it would make way more sense than cutting down a forest and shipping the wood halfway across the world.
>>78751669
>78751669
Forests are basically naturally created tree farms. Why invest millions in irrigation technology when you can just buy some shitty undeveloped land for way less?
>>78739713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G880gxjj9dI
>>78739713
Trees are just niggers with green Afros.
>>78751142
>>78751247
>>78751304
Samefag here. See, more black n white. Clearcutting in patches in the middle of nowhere ok? Thats where i timber cruised. Nobody goes there or sees it and patches are small enough compared to the tract that ecocentric concerns are mitigated. Or, in conservation areas, shelterwood or selection logging. I guess selective logging, or high-grading, would be an ultimate no-no, but, what if a landowner wanted to naturally breed a "dwarf variety"? Theres no deforestation in the first world btw. Just reforestation of young trees; too late to enjoy millions of acres of old-growth, 10' longleaf pines. Also look up lebanons' historical forests.
>>78742001
kek
>>78739713
I think jungle beaners are cutting down all the rain forest trees we need for breathable air. not only that but multiplying like rats in the process
>>78747433
thats how this works though. Live out of balance with nature... and die. There is no other way.
>>78744604
we cannot extract 100% of any given resource as it is. else there would be no economy
>>78751958
>WE LOVE THEM AND DONT WANT THEM TO DIE
>proceeds to wipe tears on a paper issue.
>>78751669
>>78751814
Thats a commonly discussed point of contention-the ratio of dedicated pine plantations vs controlled/regulated harvesting from national parks and such as part of the parks'/ other lands' conservation plan. What you are asking about is explained by: not enough wood
>>78752071
*10' DBH.
I found a thread regarding a topic i know something about and find retareded bumper sticker answers. I dont know what i expected. Do you see that in your particular field of expertise, /pol/?
>>78739922
>Fortunately it is all but ceased here in the US now that companies finally figured out that tree farming is far more profitable in the long term
It ceased centuries ago in the U.S. I mean it ended in the 19th century. There are more trees in the U.S. today than when the fucking pilgrims landed.
