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How can the UK possibly ever get back the economic leverage that it had when inside of the EU?

is the UK even going to benefit from this in the long term?
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Nope.
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>Pound already evened out and ended on a high note for the month

>UK leaving the EU destroyed the exchange rates of foreign currency more than its own

>Super Jews saying the fall of the EU is inevitable

Yeah I say we're pretty fucking good.
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>>78719946
They jumped off of a burning ship so now is sink or swim time.
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>>78719946
>Social Media and the guardian literally on suicide watch
>Malaysia of all places has proposed a free trade agreement already
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>>78720137
The Bank of England is going to take 250 Billion pounds of debt which is 27 years of membership.

How can they negotiate better or even equal deals to those they have right now? they don't have the leverage.

Exchange rates to the pound are not even close to as good as other countries now, are you kidding?
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>>78720358
Source on
>Malaysia of all places has proposed a free trade agreement already
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>>78720363
>they don't have the leverage.

I think that's the biggest issue
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>>78719946
Our new Gov needs to act very quickly to ensure a Norway deal

Dan Hannan was right on the borders for now
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>>78720363
What the fuck are you talking about? Have you been taking too many blue pills today?
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>>78720358
Brazil also proposed a massive agricultural trade deal.
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>>78720363
>they don't have the leverage.

Still being the economic trade centre of the world gives us pretty damn good leverage, especially when we're farting around making Germany pissed off because we're not rushing the leave.
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>>78720137
>>Pound already evened out and ended on a high note for the month
Might want to check again
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>>78720137
Don't forget, you are also a Nuclear capable Nation. Now the only ones left in the EU with Nukes is France... kek
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>>78719946
Its funny how Britain went from #5 to #6 most powerful economy in the world literally overnight.

>is the UK even going to benefit from this in the long term?
It probably will. I have faith that the British people can rebuild their economy. It will take some time though. "The economy" isn't some idol that constantly needs to be fed, it has its ups and downs.

Its perfectly healthy for global stocks to crash every 7 or so years. Its necessary in order for people to buy back the stocks at a lower price and for new money to go into the markets. As a young person, this was exactly what I was waiting for. I was getting tired of the stock market being so flat for over a year. Its time for it to crash so it can go up consistently again.
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>>78719946
>REEEEEEE UK ECONOMY IS FINISHED
The small market shock is already recovering. Globalists were just trying to scare you into retracting the vote.
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>>78720671
> economic trade centre of the world

You overestimate the importance of tea and rain
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>>78720914
>what is City
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>>78720569
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36629745
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>>78720584
I'm not saying the pound is in some awful situation, I'm saying it isn't trading well right now. What the poster I replied to said was wrong.

>>78720671
You don't have enough leverage to get the same deals that the EU does with itself.

>>78720586
source?

>>78720855
What would make it do better long term? I HOPE it does, but I want to know why it would.

>>78720902
This isn't my point at all. I'm asking how your going to leverage equal deals to those you have now.
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>>78719946
Didn't you get the memo OP?

We are claiming back our old colonies, so get packing.
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>>78720671
that being because London gave access to the EU market.

do you feel that people will want access to 65million people or 650million people?
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The Jews let it happen
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I genuinely want to find someone who can argue well FOR a good economic future for Britain without the EU.
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>>78720902

wrong, wrong, wrong

bank of england had to lend £250 billion to try and stabilise. this time next week it will be in the shitter
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>>78721060
JUST
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>>78721079
Our new diplomat has been in talks for a few months now, trying to get a deal particularly with the UK, but through the EU. Now with the EU gone, he sees an opportunity to make the big deal directly, while also forcing the EU's hands. He noted that there is a big bureaucracy when dealing with a single country through the EU, so now is the chance for the UK to present more flexible one-on-one deals.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2016/06/1785553-serra-quer-negociar-acordos-com-britanicos-apos-brexit.shtml
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>>78721079
If you're implying the UK will fail because they left you're sadly mistaken.

The US gave the UK Nuclear technology. There's no way we would ever let them FAIL. Besides those, UK has always helped and assisted the US in our efforts with the Middle East.

You don't throw away a good Ally.
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>>78721444
Also this http://www1.valor.com.br/brasil/4613735/para-serra-brexit-pode-aproximar-brasil-de-reino-unido
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What economic leverage?
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>>78721459
Mate I hope they do great. I fucking hate the EU but I want to see a GOOD economic argument for leaving it.

Can Yanks really just hold a burden on their heads if it doesn't grow?
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You retards are still pedalling this crap?
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>>78721586
We donate billions of shekels to Israel and other welfare Nations. We would at least help with that, and with trade.
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>>78721079
>What would make it do better long term? I HOPE it does, but I want to know why it would.
Long term.
-The British will cut off Merkel's migrants, saving taxpayers billions in welfare payments.
-Fishermen will regain fishing rights.
-Britain will keep money inside Britain instead of it going to the rest of the EU and Brussels.
-Less bureaucracy, less money needed to fund the bureaucrats of Brussels.
-Less red tape needed to open a business.
-possibly lower costs of food, fuel, and housing.

>>78720584
>>78720902
Its been ONE trading period since the Brexit vote was finished. Crashing a stock market takes more than one trading period. The Great Recession crash didn't happen over one trading period, it took several bearish weeks for the downtrend to be confirmed.
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>>78721459
obama said if the uk left eu he might want tons of countries are now saying this like russia and acording to >>78721444 also brazil
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>>78721850
whoops i meant

obama said if the uk left the eu he might want to trade
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>>78721444
Nice trips

Will this deal be good enough that it would offset the problems leaving should create? How would this solve large unemployment from Banks in the UK and other financial institutions?

>>78721720
Do you really think it's good that you guys do that?

Won't this just create problems of your own? Shouldn't you invest in your own country?

>>78721726
>billions in welfare payments
source?
>fishing
How many jobs would this create and how much will it offset those lost in banking etc.?
>Britain not paying into EU
Yes, this is good. If they don't get fucked on trade.
>Lower costs of food, fuel and housing

how would this happen? are you talking LONG or SHORT term?
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>>78721850
What? I don't understand your post at all... but Obama can say/do whatever he wants. Congress writes the checks. They'd be absolutely stupid to disregard the UK, seeing as we have strategic bases there.
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>eu wants to sell their trinkets to the uk.
>going to punish uk by not selling them the trinkets and refuse the profits.

The egos of the EU leaders have been hurt so bad that i would not be surprised if they wanted to "punish" the uk.

Too bad most citizens sympathise with the british and any adversarial action by these self serving parasites will only add fuel to the eurosceptic flames.

Fucking juncker is acting like he is a king or something
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>>78722027
Ah okay. Yeah it's too beneficial to the both of us, and less restrictions from the EU.

>I hope we import these crisps
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>>78722156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YTTyQKyJQ

This is the movie I based my post on. The EU is filled with bureaucracy and red tape, and has decimated the British fishing industry.
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>>78722156
When a country depends on your money, it's kind of hard to say no, when we want you to do something.
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>>78721726
>-possibly lower costs of food, fuel, and housing.

> fuck up half of your trade deals
> nothing prepared
> need to negotiate without leverage
> conclusion: trade deals will be far better


How stupid can you get?
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>>78722482
Watched it. I understand about the fishing industry but it's small in comparison to industries like cars and finance.

One of the largest exports the UK has is cars.
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>>78722335
Roast Beef is fucking bonza m8
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>>78719946
They will, this is just investors being retarded and selling their assets in the UK because brexit is the devil according to shills.
In a few weeks you'll see a sudden rise in their market as the usual speculator buy up all the stocks for cheap reinvesting capitals in the territory.
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>>78722768
You Brits have some of the best snacks ever.
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>great domestic production
>shitty exports, especially to the EU
>lots of imports, especially from the EU

They will be fine

It is in fact the EU who will find themselves bending the knee in order to gain access to that lucrative UK consumer market so they can earn some sweet, sweet GBP
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>>78719946
>>78720065
Sorry?
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>>78719946
>How can the UK possibly ever get back the economic leverage that it had when inside of the EU?
Wait a week or so.

After that people will have realized that a sovereign Britain is not the end of the world and everything can go on like it always has.
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>>78722840
How will a 250 billion pound debt infusion not deter investors?

Companies have already announced that they have plans on leaving to Frankfurt etc.
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>>78719946
we stop being lazy cunts and restart our industries that we closed up north, but everyone down south is just too much of a bunch of stupid cunts who bitch and whine instead of actually solving the problems
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>>78719946
The uk is nothing but a big banking sector anyway, the produce nothing usefull. Correct me if i m wrong. But i really like their feminine accent on their citizens esp. women, they sound really sexy.
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>>78722847
Can you export some Jolly Ranchers soda in exchange? Even just the orange stuff.
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>>78722885
Seriously mate, companies are already planning to leave. That's not a problem?
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>>78722523
That's why I said the word "possibly." The costs of food and housing in the UK are already high enough, and when housing prices get that high, they often times crash.

Economics isn't a hard science, its a philosophy. Its always full of "maybes" and "possibles." No one gets to predict the future.

If Britain does do poorly economically, then housing prices will go down when people decide to leave the UK. Its because London and Britain are doing well economically and don't have enough land to build on that housing prices are so expensive.
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>>78719946
dont worry lad we got this
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>>78723029
>This

When Trump is talking about taking jobs back... you know that mean factory work right? Gotta build up to be great again.
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>>78719946
Holy shit. My wives just came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at them and raped the chicken nuggets from their hands. One wife started to scream and curse at me and I slammed the door on her head. This is so haram. I do not know what to do. I did not want my wife to die, but I'm literally shocked by the results tonight. I feel like I'll explode. Why the bloody hell are we leaving the EU? This can not be true. I do not want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want to believe in a sharia future. I want to be a Muslim president and fix this broken union. Now I can not do much with this law. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought Europe was going to be Muslim???? This is so fucked.
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>>78723122
Jolly Rancher soda? I haven't heard of this...
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>>78723150
And they'll come back once we have the least regulated economy in Europe.
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>>78723029
What industries? How do you expect this to go down with lazy people? They just gonna get up and go to work?

I agree with you, but this is a hard thing to do. Really fucking hard.
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>>78723007
>Companies have already announced that they have plans on leaving to Frankfurt etc.
I believe some sort of evidence is required.

>>78723066
Really? So no BAE, no pharma, just finance.

Okay Abdul.

To the rest of the EU, don't you worry we will be just fine. Don't let the demented Germans scare you, they are weak minded and weak bodied.

The only thing they are good at is being cucked.

Pic related, your average German family.
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>>78722852
This.
I don't see what the panic is for.
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>>78723280
Okay, that's my thinking too. This is my only defense I can think of to keep them with you lads.

>>78723335
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36629745
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>>78723150
lol...

>>78723286
>UK has no and has never had industry

Okay I know Aussies like to shitpost but this is just beyond anything I've seen posted from you shit lickers.
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>>78723007
muh economy
good goy good goy
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>>78722847
What do you want to trade for some of your godly Snyder's of Hanover Honey Mustard and Onion Pretzel pieces.
I don't know where they have been all my life until last week
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>>78723273
It's a thing. I don't care for the sweets but that orange and blue stuff is the tits. Too bad it's like £2 in Tesco for 1L.
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>>78723007
You talk as if states don't costantly inject money in their economy.
And nobody is going to move their production and infrastructure somewhere else only because Merkel is cute, this is just bluffing to tank the market even harder.
It's speculation, just like everyone's economy went to shit because of two towers being brought down.
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>>78719946
Freedom isn't free comrade. The tree of liberty gotta be littered with the money of pensioners and merchants.
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>>78723405
Oh the Paris thing? This was mentioned ages ago and it's only being done to issue Eurobonds backed by the £.

HSBC is a toxic bank that the public here have had to bail out, Paris is welcome to them lol.
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>>78723405
Seriously Aus bro, things will work out. Just enjoy the ride, we're not going to reverse our decision.
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>>78719946
>muh shekels

EVERY. FUCKING. MINUTE.

Just kill yourself, jew.
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Oh very oh very gotta shill
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>>78720525
>m..m..muh leverage
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326

even your leader wants to suck our cock and give us a great deal.

GET FUCKED KRAUTS AND CONTINENTAL WOGS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAH
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>>78719946

You're probably going to suffer a tad short - medium term.

I think you'll be fine long term.
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>>78723335
Well i guess you have troubles in the knife industry. Bin dat knife. Another industrial sector that is going to suffer. But then again you see increase in the plastic sector, germany will make you high quality plastic spoons and knifes. You can count on us.
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>>78723521
HSBC said it was moving a token amount of staff of 1000 people to Paris before the Brexit result came in, they announced it months ago and it's actually a sign that the EU needs the UK, not the other way round.

Silly Australian is being silly.
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>>78722852
What domestic production is great in the UK?

>>78723449
I'm genuinely asking because I want it to work out for you and be able to argue better myself.

I'm not against you mate.

I also never said you didn't have industry, I think it's hard to get a competitive industry when the majority of young people who would work in manual labor jobs down the line are lazy shits.

>>78723669
I have doubts about finding people to work in manual labor to compete with other big producers.
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>>78720363
You forget how much debt the Eurozone is in and how much it owes the UK.

We could call that debt in at any time if we liked and completely destroy the Eurozone in the process.

How about we do that?

>>78720525
We do have leverage, as I just posted above, our banks exposure to PIIGS debt.

Don't try us Germany, you won't win.
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>>78723520
I just looked up a case on Amazon... 25 for 20, $40 shipping... looks good but not that good kek.
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>>78723645
Where will enough new jobs be created in the UK to make up for them leaving?

>>78723773
You think it might be to pressure the UK to lower taxes etc? I'm hoping this is true.
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>>78723764
Enjoy your Merkel mandated Muslim bull you pathetic little cuck.

>>78723837
We will be fine, don't you worry about that.
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>>78723934
How much debt do they owe the UK? Really interested to hear about this.I know the US is owed heaps by China too.
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>>78723976
>Where will enough new jobs be created in the UK to make up for them leaving?
LOL? We're a population of 64 million, you think 1000 is anything?

>You think it might be to pressure the UK to lower taxes etc? I'm hoping this is true.

I don't know, I don't really care, if they want to move their toxic assets to Paris or Germany then those places can bail them out. Good riddance. The important banks aren't leaving and came out and said they wouldn't relocate before the Brexit vote.
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>>78723976
Hopefully. Our corporation tax is among the highest in the world.

To be honest I don't really give a damn about funding the NHS or anything else. Far better to use that '£350 million a week' to just cut taxes and encourage business.
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>>78724056
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15748696

Have a look.
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>>78721255
>EU collapses
>Britain is now king of the shit pile and can bully smaller countries around (like Germany does now with the EU)

GG
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>>78724014
I guess those bulls dont have the joy in fucking you because we dont have the sexy overpronounced vocals to imitate the elegance of the french language. I guess we have to apologize to the foreign bulls. Something we can learn from our vocal worshipping UK friends. Oyy, already sounds like some english words. Oyyy, how british do i sound?
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>an organisation with italy and france as its founding members and the same currency from athens to helsinki knows more about finance and economics than the Jewer of Jews, Swindlers of the Swiss.

I don't think so
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>>78724242
lol @ how much debt is owed to us.

It's insane and completely nullifies the pittance of £350 billion. LOLOLOLOLOLOL..

Eurozone is fucked if we call that debt in quickly.
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>>78724152
>the important banks
HSBC is fucking huge m8, 4th biggest assets

>debt
doesn't Germany owe you less than you owe them?

almost double?

>>78724221
I hope for this too. Would love to see more countries with lower taxes.
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>>78723286
errrm you know the steel works, factories and manufacturing that we lost it all to fucking china as they treat their people like shit with such a low minimum wage its more effective for companies to abuse the system over there instead of manufacture here, but if we set up the old industries that we closed down we would be making much more income, not to mention we will also have our fishing waters back that were stolen by other EU countries.
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>>78724425
lol your house of cards is falling down Germany, you would have thought you'd learned your lesson from WW2.

But nope you haven't learned, guess you never will learn. Maybe a few nuclear missiles hitting your nation will make you learn not to cross us again?

I doubt it though, you're a pathetic nation Germany, you always have been and you always will be and no matter how much you try to attack my nation, you will never win.

Learn it and learn it quickly you cuck.
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>>78724714
you think lefties are going to let that swing? I hope they do but good luck finding ways to compete with china on that shit. I think lowering banking taxes is probably a better idea then maybe looking into that shit too but you're never going to compete that well with the Chinese
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>>78724768
holy fuck is that real
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>>78724768
>Religion Islam

I'm done
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>>78723182
Yes of course, factory work in the manufacturing industries is great for economically building up a country, you know a lot of people don't like trump over here and I admit I ain't his greatest fan however compared the completion (mostly Hilary) he sort of looks like the only decent option as Bernie is getting much votes which in my onion is quite a shame. basically fuck Hilary and how she can get away with so much shit that others would get charged with or face a prison sentence.
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>>78719946
Well thats the price you pay for betrayal
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>>78724699
HSBC is toxic and always will be toxic, sure it's a big bank "too big to fall" lel. The Germans or French can keep cleaning up their mess. They don't matter to me or my people.

You're right, Germany does owe us less than we owe them, but you fail to take into account that we can pay that off in a day. If we call in all the debt that is owed to our central bank by the Eurozone nations then this will plunge them into a really bad situation which will require Germany to foot the bill for them.

Does Germany want to play that game with us? I don't think they do, because not even they can afford it.

We can, hence why we have the leverage here and they do not.

They want to be an empire, they can be an empire and rule over Eastern Bloc shit holes but it comes at a cost.
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>>78724768
Your capital isnt even half white anymore and you pull out some rnd politician that is responsible for immigration that happens to be a turk.

You will say oyy when i fuck you and rip you apart in all colours. In all your sexy words you can see, not like those ordinary americans. I will enjoy every vocal when my dick rips your ass apart. And then your moth will form another "ohhh" when you take my cum in your mouth.
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>>78724891
It's called taxing the fuck out of china imports for not conforming to international workers' law, something that stopped being a thing after the EU decided to let them trade freely.
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>>78724995
Oh you had better believe it's real.
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Well, we will see what will Happen.
If Economics all around the World were right, GB will get totaly fucked.
The Financial District will fall apart, the Imports allready are more expensive, trading will get harder and GB still have to so what the EU Want,... Just without the Chance of Talking back,...
GB screwed their own youth.
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>>78719946
Money market metrics are a farce. The figures being bandied about have no implications on sweet fanny adams.

People aren't magically being less productive suddenly. I won't have to hand over my savings to the bogeyman.

Frankly if you pay heed to any of this doomsaying, before article 50 has even been invoked, you're not being reasonable.

Also #yolo cunt
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WHAT PRODUCTS SOULD I BUY TO SUPPORT FREE, INDEPENDENT UK?
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>>78725162
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You accepted nearly 3 million Muslims into your country in little over a year.

We don't even have that many and they've been here since the 1960's.

HAHAHAHAHA HAVE FUN WITH THAT ONE HANS! ENJOY YOUR TURKS AS WELL !

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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>>78724891
I'm not talking about competing with the Chinese, oh fuck no, I'm just stating that they're the reason we shut down a lot of our industries and that setting them back up will be a good source of income for us.
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>>78725364
Nothing, transfer your saving to UK banks, hell convert them to pounds if you feel like taking the risk.
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>>78725031
Oh look, another scum sucking leech slavshit nation.

You fuckers pick the losing side every time.

When are you going to back the winners and spare yourselves the humiliation of losing?
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>>78725247
They're literally welcoming invaders
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>>78725136
Aren't most banks the same? You can't just let them get up and leave, no-one has the capital to replace them.

Almost everyone on that BBC link you showed me owes less to the UK than the UK owes to them.

Do you have a source for all the collective debt that the UK owes to the eurozone and that which they owe to it?
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>>78725005
His plan to take jobs back from China would boost our growth, but that also means higher cost of production, and sale of goods to other Nations. Seeing as you can still just buy from China...
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>>78725364
steal the hood ornaments from Jaguars and Rolls Royce so the owners will have to import more of them from the UK
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>>78725164
Good point, thanks. Is there any reason this hasn't already been done?
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>>78725414
fuckin' kek that German cuck got wrecked!
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U.K can now copy Australia's policy of telling any illegal immigrants on boats to fuck right off and they won't be bothered by any E.U human rights shit.

congrats you have your sovereignty back
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>>78723280
Come on, you are a totalitarian state

There is absolutely nothing free and unregulated in britain.
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>>78725364
They've got good food and candies for cheap on Amazon.
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>>78725623
Kek I can do that.
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>>78725414
They will get stomped pretty soon, dont worry.
At the moment they are just figuring out how they can get out before we destroy them completly.
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>>78720363
>The Bank of England is going to take 250 Billion pounds of debt

Who in the what now?
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The EU is going to collapse within the next 5-10 years anyway. If not sooner.

Britain isn't benefiting as much as they're calling their cards before everyone else realized how high the stakes are going to go.
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>>78725644
A number of reasons, China holding some countries by the balls because they've bought a lot of their debt and took over some of their major industries, the EU being a pain in the ass and not allowing you to actually do that by yourself, your political class being under their pockets and simply ignoring the issue.
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>>78725704
Any beers?
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>>78725594
Yes that is a problem, however it can be fixed by bullying (or convincing, doubt that will work though) China into changing it's laws to better benefit it's people but that's still very fucking tricky as they would lose out on money. I think the best thing to do is to offer industries and products that China either can't do or struggles to do as then there would be a HUGE space for the USA in the global market (even though there kinda is anyway).
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>>78725506
Well, we are still here and we will be here long ago after you are gone
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>>78719946

UK will do worse trade with the EU

Better trade with North America

In the long term it's better, since the UK cannot be roped into bailouts of the Mediteranean periphery next time it all blows up
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>>78725594
cut taxes on manufacturers and those who sell those goods?

>>78725870
http://www.baka.com.au/business/markets/brexit-mark-carney-says-bank-of-england-ready-to-use-extra-250-billion-pounds-to-help-markets-consider-more-action-20160624-gprihd.html

>>78726032
Won't that debt remain a problem then?
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>>78725559
Right I'm going to have to do all the maths by hand because you're too lazy to.

Going to take me a while to calculate it all but I'll do it, just for you baby because you just can't take my word for it can you?
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>>78726060
I haven't looked much into that... possibly?
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>>78726184
fucks sake my fucking link got btfo because it has shake my head in it

just google it
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>>78724555
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15748696
do you think we would if they tried to cuck us?
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>>78726184
Debt is always a problem when it's owned by a foreign country, is literally having a leech on your economy costantly extracting money from your market into theirs.
You can counter that by persuading your local banks and industries to buy that back in exchange of privileges and shit, the most important thing about debt is making sure it stays in your country since that way money always get back to you anyways. after that it's size is not that relevant.
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>>78726197
All the big countries in that BBC link owe more to the UK than the UK owes to them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3171088/Britain-eighth-indebted-country-EU-owes-1-600-000-000-000.html
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>>78726727
>>78726197

also

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2996/economics/list-of-gross-external-debt-by-country/

UK has the 4th biggest external debt.
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>>78726060
I work Harvey's in the uk and I do t want hue niggers drinking the same stuff as me. I'm glad we don't export
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Neoliberal here.

Best option:

>UK joins the EEA (or remains in it, rather)
>stop the pile of EU regulations continuing to grow, spilling onto us more and more and bringing our labor markets down the awful, high-unemployment model of most of Europe
>stop the EU continuing to grow into a world government
>keep free trade with Europe
>keep free movement
>cuck the lefties who want "muh worker's rights, muh equality legislation, muh regulation!"
>cuck the righties who want "muh pure white nation, no foreigners allowed!"
>delicious populist tears enough to provide a day's worth of British rain
>neoliberals laughing all over the shop while counting their wads of cash they earned from producing the products everyone demands but pretends not to want because it's low status to acknowledge that material posessions are actually pretty fucking neato
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>>78726605
How do you convince banks to do that? what privileges?
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Scotland and northern Ireland are about to Take their chances and Leave the UK.
If they success, the least Problem England (and Wales) will have are some immigrants some british People don't Want to accept.
Still, if they Remain, they most likely will get less good trading Deals then Swizerland or Norwegen.
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>>78726136
>The best defence the slav can mount is 'I exist'
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>>78725683

We won't. Wanting to control borders is now racist and most of the constituances are controlled by pakis and africans, making their vote more important than the dispersed whites. We've got our soveirginty back, but British culture is gone, so its no differnece anyway.
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>>78720363
>>78726184

This is what Britain gets for being dumb enough to make A FUCKING LEAF the head of their bank.
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>>78727084
Less taxes, insights over devevolpment projects where they can invest into, approving/rejecting specific laws.
You can see it as lobbying.
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>>78727229
whoever thinks controlling borders is racist is an incompetent, imbecilic piece of shit. A LOT of things can go horribly wrong if borders cannot be controlled and that is not a racist thing, and the cucks of our country neeed to wake up and realise this!
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>>78726985
>>78726985
How could GB stop the regulations, if they Want to sell their products to the EU?
The free Trade, other non EU countrys have with the EU, is extremly expensive.
Why should the EU allow you to move free, without own Benefit?
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>>78727765

Yeah they are, but as Lamar said, there is no justice in the world. 90% of British people voted Brexit and the rest were nu-males, women, pakis and blacks, and they still nearly won. At this point, the best thing we could do to make Nige PM and stop the cucks is that every British perosn on /pol/ move to the same constituancy and vote Nige, because exactly what the Pakis and Blacks are doing.
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>>78727912
The same way other countries not in the EU manage it. When you're trading with the EU, you follow the applicable EU regulations. When you're not, you don't.

>Why should the EU allow you to move free, without own Benefit?

It would be mutual, EU citizens could move here too.
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>>78724958
Nothing strange aboutthe existence of extremist and/or idiots ;-)
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THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>78724155
>>78724155
>>78724155
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>>78725136
Huh? Why would Germany Want to be an empire?
And what money did the UK lend to the EU? Sources?
As far as I know, you Payed for the less developed EU countrys a Bill, but this money is gone.
You won't get this back at all.
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>>78720525
>>78720363
Noticed how the EU are begging the UK to invoke article 50 as soon as possible?

The UK needs a replacement government and a Prime minister, soa leadership election needs to be held as well. This is going to take a while. The longer this takes the more turmoil it adds to global markets as it adds uncertainty to the whole situation. The Brexit Government can delay this article 50 invocation to piss of eu and bring down the eu economy if they don't get what they want.
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>>78729348
* so a
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>>78728392
Fair enough,
but it Would be far to expensive for an industry to Produce two different types of their products, one for the EU and the other for the Rest of the world.
Norwegen or Swiss also have to obey the rules of the EU, they even warned GB exactly for this reason to Not Leave.
The expanses for a free Grade Deal are extremly high, much higher then if you Would be a member.
I kind of agree with the Free Travel thought.

First Thing to see, is scottland and northern Irland remaining in GB.
If Not, shit is gonna Hit the Fan for England.
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>>78727229
You'll have to have some sort of Customs/Border Patrol. Even the smuggling of Cigs and Alcohol can net someone millions bypassing taxes.
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>>78729348
>and bring down the eu economy

As well as UK's economy, while Scotland gets progressively pissed off.

The EU is pissed because it would seem the UK held a referendum with no actual plan and now isn't even sure of what to do, which hurts both sides and frankly paints the UK as a bunch of brats.
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Why you are not sign in the petition?
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>>78729348
That would be True if the UK wouldn't Want something from the EU After the Leave,...
GB is Not in a strong Position for negotiations -.-
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>>78730398
EU is probably more pissed they lost a Nuclear Nation. The only one they have left is France.
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>>78730398
>The Empire is pissed off because it would seem that the colonies held a revolution with no actual plan and aren't even sure what to do, which hurts both sides and frankly paints the Americans as a bunch of brats
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>>78730645

Germany has nukes on loan from the US
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>>78730101
>but it Would be far to expensive for an industry to Produce two different types of their products, one for the EU and the other for the Rest of the world.

How do you think the rest of the world manages it?
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>>78730639
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326

Keep those fingers in your ears. You might hear some realities if you take them out.
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>>78730398
Pretty sure Brexit was just another right wing "look guys we're really on your side keep voting for us" move that they never expected to actually pass. I'd bet good money the same politicians celebrating in public are trying to figure out how to get out of this behind closed doors.
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>>78730760
The Rest of the world Have Not THIS strong Trade relationships with the EU.
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>>78730694
If only this wasn't all around the use of article 50 and the start of negotiations your post wouldn't be fucking retarded.
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>>78730944
But they face the same issue - producing products to be sold in a variety of different regulatory environments.

If the trade relations with the EU are especially strong - and they are strong, I agree - then EU regulations will indeed have a strong influence on the products that are produced. But they won't be binding, they can be ignored when doing so enables greater efficiency for products being sold not to the EU.
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>>78730853
I don't get your point?

Even if you Would Take Merkels words as a given, their was allready the Leak of a 8 sited strategy Paper of Germany in which was written to be harsh in Terms of trading Deals towards GB so that later on other Country Would think twice about to Leave the EU...
...well... It's only Natural.
Still, I think First Thing are the People, and that we should help eachother out if needed.
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>>78730639

The negotiations only start when the UK says so

There's no mechanism to jump start the process

The fact a referendum took place is an internal matter with zero legal diplomatic repurcussions, until the UK formally starts the process
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Depends on how friendly the rest of the world is desu, how easy they make it to trade.
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>>78731892
That's like shitting your pants and stating that you can take as long as you want before changing.

Sure they are your pants, sure nobody is going to do it for you, but even if it's your right you are screwing over yourself, you are screwing over everybody around you and you look retarded.
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>>78727165
unlike celts in britain who have been raped by romans and then replaced by anglo-saxons who are now being replaced by us people from middle-east.
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>>78731441
Fair enough, still GB is nearly surrounded by EU countrys. Export bills will rise, if trades will have to travel Long distances and then have to Pay taxes.
Also, the Import will be more expensive.
And GB is Importing a Lot.
I'm afraid a Lot of smaller Businesses can't afford this.
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>>78731892
True, but the UK is in the Position to Want something afterwards from the EU.
So if GB will Drag their descission out for some intern political Fights/discussion, they will harm the Economics of the EU and also their own Position for later...
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>>78732301

If you want someone to blame for why merely mentioning referendum hurts EU finances blame the EU. It is what threatens markets and economies by suggesting countries that choose to leave it will be destitute and unable to trade.

Just like fucking usual it's putting your jobs and country at risk for its vanity.
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>>78720137

That's because you havent actually left the EU yet. That was just a market panic that quickly subsided.

It all depends on how the EU leaders handle this. If they just accept this affront and try to play it nice, britfags win out big time. If they decide to make an example out of you to deter others from Brexiting, you're gonna be in for one helluva time.
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>>78732933
How does harming the EU economy hurt our position?

Not that I want to do it; I believe trade talks should begin once the new Conservative leader is chosen.
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>>78733435
>If you want someone to blame for why merely mentioning referendum hurts EU finances blame the EU.

No?

If I am an investor and I look to invest in anything related to the UK, I know it's a bad idea.

And it's not because of the EU, the EU is actually asking YOU to get OUT ASAP, but YOU are the ones taking your sweet as time and creating uncertainty.

I know how the EU is going to deal with this, hell at the very least I know they want to deal with it, I don't know how YOU are going to deal with this, so I can't decide what to do, so I don't risk it.

And the worst fucking thing here is not that I don't know what YOU are going to do.

The worst fucking thing is that YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO EITHER.

And you still have the gall to say this is the EU's fault for lords sake it's insane.

>>78733619
>How does harming the EU economy hurt our position?

Well besides the obvious fact that you are still going to be in Europe and that European economies doing good is good for you, you are hurting yourself as much as you are hurting the EU.

Countries in the EU lost trade agreements with one country, you lost trade agreements with all of them and have to make new ones.

I'm actually baffled at the retardation here, I swear to god I'm all for self-determination and your right to do whatever you want, fuck I applaud the democratic exercise.

But for all that is holy I can't for the life of mine understand how you guys could agree on a non-plan.
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>>78719946
Britain had no more leverage in the EU than it will have out of it.
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>>78734365
>Well besides the obvious fact that you are still going to be in Europe and that European economies doing good is good for you, you are hurting yourself as much as you are hurting the EU.

Indeed, but as we saw with stock prices post-referendum and economic growth over the past few years it seems Britain is less affected, economically, than the rest of the EU by our decision to leave.
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>>78719946
wtf i hate brexit now!
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>>78722156
fishing contributes just under 0.05% our GDP
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>>78736149
Which may now increase. Diversity may kill communities but it helps economies. Being dependent on financial services has meant that, while our economy may be growing, and at a faster rate than the rest of the EU, the effects are felt less by working-class families.
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>>78736389
what do you mean by this?

how wouldn't economic diversity be good for both communities and economies? even moreso than non-diverse economies?
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>>78736149
is that meant to be a lot? is that a significant industry to make up for problems that leaving might make?
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>>78736587
I was talking about multiculti 'diversity™' killing communities.
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>>78736389
It can't increase in a sustainable way, overfishing is already a problem and we were the biggest contributor to that
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>>78719946
Keep calm and watch the brexit edition of keiser report faggot
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uSTEACxuEmM
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>>78737169
It can, Britain's fishing industry has been crippled by EU treaties allowing other countries to fish in our waters unilaterally. Not to mention the absurd quotas requiring caught fish to be tossed out, already dead, in the name of sustainability. With more sensible, perhaps time-based, regulation our fisheries can recover /with/ an enlargment of the British fishing industry.
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>>78737656
>our fisheries can recover /with/ an enlargment of the British fishing industry
Delusional mate. Either the fisheries can recover or fishing can expand, not both, and probably not either
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>>78719946
Not when the EU cuts most of their trade with them to make anytime else wanting to leave think twice
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>>78719946
Wait for EU to to die out takes like 20 years and then strike normal trade deals. Or get cucked by it by striking bad trade deals.
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>>78740576
EU wants UK trade though, they wont play too rough. UK will settle for basically the same as now but slightly worse and with less control. Everyone will see leaving doesnt gain you anything but trade continues almost as strongly
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>>78720397
its been on some finance sites, its a good deal.
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>>78721156
I'll take the growing global markets over the stagnant isolationist ones please.
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>>78723165
We have lots of room for housing

However no company in the past 20 years is rushing to supply housing when they can sell a single 2 bed rat house for £400k then rent it out at 10%
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>>78722847
Want to set up a trade agreement?

We give you cadburys and sweets, and you give us some of your soft drinks.
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>>78719946
What did they lost? Not even outside of EU yet. Just some stupid numbers sheep follow, literally changing in milliseconds on the farts of New York stock exchange hamburger digestions.
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